 Yes, and welcome back to why and the morning and this is entrepreneurship Tuesday on why and the morning My name is Barry Moses or it's very one every social media platform So at the beginning of the year we told you guys we were going to tackle different aspects of the economy And we have been trying so hard last week. We had security and this time we have another thing about security and this time It's not the muscle security. It's more of the cyber security that we have guys from SF I see sky family IT just to tell us more about this new age that we live in and so you guys can get to understand Is your date is your data safe out there? Or do you need more protection? All right, so your camera is number four. I like to give everybody an opportunity to introduce themselves So they can say all the AK is degrees out So ladies first Hi, my name is Stella Karani. I am a CFO at sky family IT consultancy. I have a BSE in finance and Yeah, BSE in finance. Yes, I'm scared already Thank you so much. All right. Hi, my name is Samuel Siloski. I'm the founder of our sky family We deal with that call hacking and penetration testing. I have a professional in Professional any was it called diploma in ethical hacking and security Professional diploma in ethical hacking and cyber security. Yeah, so this week. I just figured out there's something like ethical hacking I always knew hackers were enemies of the state. Yeah hackers were Most wanted Again Well, yeah, you guys have something going on right here. Yes, and I really appreciate it I go to understand it, but let's get the viewers to understand it But before they understand it, let them get to know you guys as individuals first. So maybe we can stop the lady again I'm sorry So, yes, that's sky family or generally about family Okay, so we joined sky family last year, but one yes 2018 and it has been a ride Yeah, it's interesting by the way because you get to learn different aspects to get to learn about Python, which I'm not really sure about it, but Yeah, you just have to learn about the language. Yeah, it's very interesting. I actually thought it was a snake for real For So with your background in finance and all these things is this the role they brought you to play? Yes as a financial person So you see? finance finance institutions every day probably the CRB released a Report we don't like them. Yeah, we don't like that. Yeah, not at all So they released a report and 50,000 is lost in a minute by samples So can you imagine that we step in as sky family we solve that issue for them? And you see the thing about circles or banks? You see this is just circles I'm talking about so can you imagine they lose probably 50 billion in a day because of cyber crime? Yes Suckles in general just suckers at these crimes committed by Kenyans like you foreigners It could be anyone it could be a Kenyan it could be you know, we have Nigerians in the country. We have Chinese I don't need to come to your office to rob you guys. I can rob you from America. Yes, or Mexico Yes, or whatever as long as you're connected to the Internet anything can happen That was so much for an introduction All right, no for me security is more vital You know because I've seen so many people Lose a lot of funds from a day-to-day Analysis, you know, I used to work at a bank. I don't want to call it. Yeah, no problem. Yeah, but When I was during my work that was a time I actually I think we lost And it came as a shock was everybody was like the IT guys were like everywhere So I was like, you know, there are three things that Work in the morning. Yes, there's a mess. There's already a mess. Somebody got in And did something. Yes. All right. We went home with money. Yeah, let me say a lot of money For the for the example that I want to show you I can actually show you cameras even in us within seconds We're not doing anything illegal. It's just that you can view So I can be able to view their traffic lights industrial systems from Kenya So what you're telling me right now is if my girlfriend is in somewhere in Los Angeles right now, I can see Provided you have her IP address how her phone, you know, the funny thing about machines is this provided you connected yourself to the Internet You always leave a footprint. So you're part of the network. You're part of the whole network System everything you leave a trail if we can be followed. Yes, not even followed people hack the system and just display it online Wow, you know, I was given a quote by by my lecture. He said this If you want to be safe, don't buy a laptop if you buy a laptop don't switch it on if you switch it on So there's no way we can protect ourselves There's always somebody out there that is better than you are better than you in all sorts. Yeah Wow All right hackers Portrayed by the Some people that we should be afraid of some people that we shouldn't be condoning in the society Yes, but there's this side of ethical hacking and what is the difference between ethical hacking and just basically hacking? In ethical hacking we ask for permission before we do anything. We come like for example, if you have an organization I'll come talk to you. We'd be like, hi I want us to test your system to see how safe you are for future references, you know People get offended by that because you can't come to tell me If you have much to protect then you have to be serious with the security Okay, I thought you know if you're not serious with a security, you're going to lose everything Like what we should say imagine losing around 50 million a day That's a lot of money. That's a lot. Mm-hmm a day. That's a day. It was actually It's a lot of money for the company itself for the economy economy itself for the government Yeah, exactly and the government doesn't all have to lose money exactly So our work is basically to come to you. We talk we understand our terms. I can't touch your system unless we agree So after there is the ethics that's the ethics in hacking in hacking And then the beauty about sky family the company is this we do it into perspective. We do it as a black hacker Somebody who doesn't know have no information concerning the company. They will hack it in another place like in a cyber something They'll sit there and then there's another one who will work together with the administrator Step by step looking at the system guiding give information so it will be harder for that person to even try So, you know Who's going to have a harder time? The other person at the same train to have The person who does not have any Yeah, all right, so all these things are premeditated. Yes all these things with the intent of protecting the systems that you have as a company Yeah, all right, so I'm trying to imagine How did you guys come up with this first and how do you have on with somebody I want to break into your house? So I can check if it's secure enough. Yeah All right, let me talk Wow people actually don't trust us. That's the thing when you go to a company you talk to them and they're like Let's consider IT people. They're very good. But when you look at it, they don't even go into it So for example, you had a hotel a website a hotel website where you can book. So we we get we got in And we booked in fact we hacked we booked and then we told them can you imagine they changed after two years? I hope it was a Las Vegas Yes, I'm Mara. So we booked and then we told them about it, but they did not respond. They just said, okay Yeah, we're going to check but Two years later, that's when they change the website book and this was valid for yeah Go with this book in this unit to the hotel and check in. Yeah, we're ready people already paid Yeah, so when you say we lose like 50 million in a day, it's not necessarily guys Stealing that cash money it's guys Getting services without paying things like that. Yeah, people lose millions. Yes. Wow Why do we have a full channel on Twitter? Why do we have four underscore channel on Instagram? And why to a forum Facebook is the way to interact with us. Hashtag is one in the morning and this is ethical hacking Conversation. All right. So once you came up with this I Know this that's human nature that comes Being a human and once you have a power, it's very easy to abuse it. All right. So how do you contain yourself? I can say integrity matters integrity matters and also somebody to always hold you online Funny thing. Let me say this Funny thing. Let me say this. She's my wife. In fact You know, we work together as a team. She can hold me when I'm not in my right sense She's the first person to actually come to me, but they let's not do this Let's do the other way understand but at the same time we have we have ethics. We have rules set aside We can't do this unless we have that unless The class exactly. We have we have a low agreement from the law We have lawyers who can actually authenticate the structures that we can do anything It's better. We do remain bankrupt We want to do this. Exactly. All right, you're fairly young guys I'm guessing you're even younger than me Yeah, and how do you get to know all these things about getting the illegal department getting the Programmers or the IT department and all these things setting this business up. How do you guys come about this? Simple See your need and you exploit the need Simple as that. So it's always find the need. Yes and exploit exploits. You don't even need Finances, you just need your brain. You just need to use your head as simple as that. That is the message You're sending to a viewer right now. Yes, all you need is this is all you know my plane about money. Yes All right, let's get a demo because people think I'm joking right now Don't be So let's get a demo But has he sets that up remember your might if I thought I'm on Twitter why if I for underscore channel on Instagram and why to Forum Facebook hashtag is why in the morning and never ever ever forget as well as where you're watching us from Because that's the only way we can give you guys a shout out and we can tailor our content just to suit you guys So remember our social media handles always right there below the screen and I see my ethical hacker is Set up already. All right. So we're good to go. Yes. All right. So what are you doing for us? It's actually information that I want to show you how much the internet has How much info with we are not even hacking we just to reveal in data. All right at the end of this Are we going to close our Facebook accounts at Instagram? For instance, I'm using a tool called showed and it's everywhere the tool it's a it's called a IOT internet of all things It's a search engine like Google, but it contains all the devices connected to the internet The web comes the the industrial machines Traffic lights we can actually switch on and off traffic like if you want to Provided it's connected to the internet anything. Yeah. So for example, yeah, we're going to use a just gather We just gather in data. Let's use this module Just wow use it on Yes, we are going to have it that yeah set yourself up. Yeah, it's So yes, yeah, I'm just I see a lot of Gibberish All right, so number one the auxiliary sky just can we just gather in that Yes, it is written that gather it so the website is called show them No, now I want us just to do just a simple thing. Yeah, we just get the query. So we come here and you're like show options To see what we are not supposed to check. So number one is the query. We need to set up a query. So we use We set the query We are looking for webcams That uses XP just a simple all the webcams that uses XP as simple as that and then Finally, I need to set up the set the API key Sorry API key All right, so I've been brought to my attention. Yes It's not only gibberish to me alone, but the viewers as well. So XP. Let's start with XP Okay, let me start with XP XP was those old machines You know when when before Windows 10 before Windows 7 there was XP XP XP is extinct. Yeah, it was actually closed. No more updates. No more nothing It was actually closed off. All right, but yet people are still using it for the games on XP But now people don't understand if it's the mini Microsoft has stopped supporting it means it's vulnerable You don't even need to have a password Okay, they are million of users using it Outdated system is more vulnerable. It's so vulnerable from Windows 7. It was closed in I think in January In January from what wrong Windows 7 was closed off. So from Windows 7 and below And Windows 8 if I'm wrong, so your service providers responsible for providing security for you as well As much as you need you need a fence and a and a wall. Yeah, all right Let's get back to the bottom. Yeah, and then this is called as the search engine for security It's like Google but I just for looking for devices. We can use the okay Let me instead of using the terminal. Let's use this for here. I can just search like Web and web come XP. We just search it Immediately we search you will see all cameras that use XP in all the world Every any every continent like from USA, Germany, Spain, Italy, Russia What is the pink and what is the pink is the information actually gathered there they're reddish And then the pink is it's just the globe is just the whole globe. So the info that you get is actually From that it shows you like we have a 615 results 615 in the world using XP. That's a lot And then when we open like this one for Ion euro Durango, let's just open in the new tab Nice loading web come image. I don't even need an axis now. Look. No, this is like Where's this? Let's not say the area faster, but it's in let me say it's in us or something And you actually see it's like well, this is a live footage Now as we speak The date is actually written August 4th. No, this one is okay. This one's a screenshot. Let me find another one Yeah, like this one come five. Let's go to this other country. Ah, nice No, like something like this. We can control even the cameras We can see what you want to see. Yeah, we can actually change the main view like this one here There's a tab called the multi view. That one contains all The cameras they have all right. Yeah, so let me check again. The big question has always been yes Where's the line between? ethical and just hacking as the definition goes let me say I got back to integrity Oh nice. We've actually found a live one. Oh, this one is a live one. Where is it? Oh, they just say Now this one is a is more of a this kind of lights that look for any the one that actually house is stored in a house is Wow, nice it so we can actually change into multi view It's just that I collect we haven't even hacked just collecting data Now you see we just collect in that you're not even doing anything Wow I'm even scared now because every I've seen a couple of friends of mine Having a sticker on the webcam patch on the computer. Yes, and I've always asked myself Why do you guys watch too many movies and get scared? But this thing is real for all trust me to really scare you When you start actually digging behind the same to actually check in how much information Internet has like for instance last week A cousin of ours actually asked us it's actually more of a brother He actually asked us he gave us his email address and told us to find all the info He was actually we scared after Because he found like over 15 people hacked his account and actually placed it publicly so my emails could easily go yes, and My did my the information on my phone could easily go public The information on my computer could easily go public. So, how do I protect myself in this age of clear vision 2020? Number one is actually simple as the first advice I say you don't actually switch it on Secondly For companies you need to test your systems you really need to test your systems You are safe as much as you know your security You know so always keep tested always keep testing your security Try to see how many times it can fail You know so that you won't be like or you just wake up and you're like wow You won't get shocked So number one test your security for mobile users simple when you try to connect with the internet use a VPN It's called a virtual private network that one you it was it's actually hard to to be traced You can be using it in Kenya, but somebody from another place can actually view you like you're in Yeah Okay, you're going to teach me that Anyway as a country we're slowly adopting these things the government is adopting these things and You your space in the society It's going to be fought by then ethical ones. Yes How do you just think to yourself? It's a very tricky kind of situation It's it's more about What you present Like for instance, there was a time. I was actually it was actually more of a war between a black Huck and me it was more like this There's a lady who came with a laptop and told me whether somebody's Accessing my laptop. So I had to do first forensic to identify what's so important what has been deleted and all that Immediately after that noise trying to trace back the hacker who's trying to do it And the more I try to shut him down his opening and after it was more like up and down up and down the thing Just don't with your keyboard you're like you close this spot. He opens another he closed the spot you open another So we took for like 13 minutes Until we finally actually closed all the pods and we kicked him out And we started installing more security more security features in the lap up here All right, and this is what you guys do and this is what you guys drive on. All right, so How can we be more secure what of advice apart from signing up with you guys to protect our system How can we be more secure? I think one of the things is always keep updating your system Never be left behind when your software perhaps in your phone You have a software update update change your passwords regularly That what you'd say always update your system. What would you say this actually is more about she's a hundred percent correct You know like dispatches like every mind you get our security update It's important to actually regularly If you don't do that you can be actually fallible into any Miss happens or something and that's where you can find a machine can just go off you out of nowhere You know, not all hugs actually goes accurately the way you wanted it Some hugs you can do and it's going to switch totally completely burn the phone down completely So the best thing is always keep your phones updated always Check the sites you go to you know these pop-ups like pop-ups like it's so dangerous Because there's this pop-up they come they're like click yes and no to cancel you like More buttons actually function the same whether you click yes Never just reload the page or something But say something different Interesting so calling you understand and then because the moment you click yes It still take you to download a malware when you click no it will still make you download the malware So the best way is just it's a different the X don't click yes or no because you people don't actually ask themselves These are yes, and no and then there's an X But people don't go to the X they go to no so always X All right, so how can people get all of your services just in case They'd like to protect their systems your camera is number four. You can go on Facebook We are sky family to consultancy and also we have a website sky family to consultancy or you can call us to on 0702 58 99 0 3 it's always on 24 hours a day Always always they can interact with you. What do you like to add to a viewer that is watching us right now? Who thinks ah, I don't need this kind of stuff My business is quite simple. I don't need this kind of stuff As you think that you don't need it trust me you do because this is your business You need to secure it if it's important to you then you need to secure it need to find something that you know like a Security measure Like the way you close your doors when you lock up out of your business It's the way you need to secure your business if you're using especially a good at the gates You better have a good Thank you very much guys social media website how they can find your life Business line Sky family will maximize your business for efficiency and security No more wondering whether you're safe or not. We ensure we enforce It's more about Making sure you don't go lost don't go or actually find yourself at a loss For we are sky family in order we do Thank you very much sky family. Thank you. We appreciate you so much And I always like to see young people making moves So you guys are really motivated me and I love what you guys are doing keep doing what you're doing And I hope to see you guys at the Nairobi you stock exchanger. Yes So we have come to the end of this Sky family these guys are all about security and cyber security in particular So if you'd like to know more about this visit sky family on Facebook on Twitter and their website as well So you can get more information and if you have a friend who you think leads this tell them you have a recap at 2 p.m. Or tell them we have Videos going up on YouTube at white fire for channel. My name is by Moses or it's by morning with social media platform And Hillary's coming up next with another one. You don't want to miss it