 Next up, we're going to switch to a different end user. Alex Rubin is going to come up and join me from Kaiser Permanente and talk a little bit about the work they've been doing with Cloud Foundry. Come on up, Alex. Excellent, Sonchoice. Thank you. Have a seat. Alex, thank you so much for joining us this week from Kaiser. I know Kaiser has been coming to Summit for a long time and is a long time Cloud Foundry user, but it's great to have you join us on stage. Thanks for having me. It's always great to be here. I know that I've learned a lot this week from users like yourself talking about your journey and the work that you've done. And I'm excited you can come up on stage and share a little bit of that with the audience here. First, tell us a little bit about what you do at Kaiser. Yeah, so first, let me talk to folks a little bit about who Kaiser Permanente is. So Kaiser Permanente is one of the top 10 largest integrated healthcare providers in the US. We operate 39 hospitals, around 670 medical offices and outpatient facilities. We serve 11.8 million members and we have over 210,000 employees. And we are hiring. So I think now is a good time to play a quick video to give you guys a little bit more perspective here. When you have doctors working as a team for your health, you get the care you need to help you thrive. Visit kp.org to learn more. Kaiser Permanente Thrive. Yeah, so one of the key things for us is member engagement and we want to make sure that we can reach out to members, that we're there and not just when things aren't so good and people have to get care. But also when things are great, right? And when you feel great, we want to be there with you. We want to help with tips on healthy eating, exercise, et cetera, right? All the good things that you hear and you know you should do. We want to be providing a personalized contextual experience to our members. And that's key for us. So in my job, I'm working as part of the CTO office and I talk to many different teams within Kaiser Permanente helping them understand what our platform offers internally for folks who want to develop these cloud native applications and who want to provide this type of systems of engagement and this type of experience to our members across different channels, be it mobile, social, you know, web. And so, you know, not only engaging with them, kind of from early proof of concepts on all the way through the production, but also, you know, doing lessons learned and understanding what capabilities they need to be able to better build, you know, as they go forward. So, you know, it's always exciting to be here and see what's going on in the community and how that can be leveraged. Yeah, absolutely. And as a Kaiser customer, I'm a big fan of the mobile app and a lot of the work that Kaiser does proactively. How, you know, you've been using Cloud Foundry now for a couple of years. Has that had an impact in broader Kaiser in terms of the way you approach technology, but also we've talked a lot this week about the feedback loop between the customer and the technology? Have you incorporated that into your process and what does that look like? Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, when we started out, we selected IBM Cloud as one of our providers for Cloud Foundry distribution. And we've been kind of on the journey with them and, you know, they've been providing us with capabilities from the runtime perspective, but also for the services. So, one of the key things for us is being able to leverage services and being able to develop quickly. And that means that, you know, there's got to be some choice in terms of what types of capabilities like SQL database, no SQL database, queuing, et cetera, right, all the different components that you need to build out an application. And as we got more comfortable with, you know, kind of developing and as we have a broader set of services that we can choose from, I think we weren't from just writing workforce applications or smaller applications that, you know, is just internally used to a larger applications that can be utilized by members. So, you know, one of the big projects we're undergoing right now is we're taking Premier site that you've seen in the commercial, kp.org, where it's traditionally a monolithic application and we're taking and refactoring that into components, into different microservices that are going to be running on top of the Cloud Foundry. So it's pretty exciting. And, you know, that of course means the culture change as well because, you know, the number of deploys that you can do and how fast you have to move to really, you know, manage all of this. And the innovation around it that people now are able to achieve, that they're able to dream up these things and, you know, very quickly plug it and plug different components, it provides a whole lot of capabilities for us to innovate. That's exciting and I'm excited to see a company the size of Kaiser. I mean, Kaiser is really big. How many employees are in Kaiser? 210 plus 1,000. So 210,000 people and really bringing that level of iteration and continuous delivery and innovation is a pretty complicated endeavor. How big just for some of the audience here, how big is the deployments that you're looking at now and what are we talking about in terms of size? The theme of this event is running at scale. Let's talk a little bit about the size of the deployment. Absolutely. So, you know, we started out with just a few applications like four to six applications running in production. You know, now we've scaled to, you know, over 100 applications in our production environment and, you know, non-prod, we have 1,000 applications, so 10x. And, you know, we're expecting more in non-prod and that pipeline to move to production, which is really exciting. And we have over 800 developers who are writing code for Cloud Foundry and deploying to Cloud Foundry kind of day in and day out. So it's pretty amazing to see how quickly it picked up and, you know, how excited everyone is to use it. So thank you. That's phenomenal. Have you, you know, obviously 800 is a lot smaller than the 200,000, 210,000 employees. Have you seen an impact that that has had on the broader organization, you know, the way that you're really reflecting that innovation and that cycle back in? Yeah, absolutely. You know, it's a lot of it is, you know, us going out there and talking to folks and, like I said, different lines of business. A lot of it is also just word of mouth, really, right? So, you know, we have some, you know, one day I got contacted by a doctor and he said, hey, I'd like to write an app and a mobile app to be able to, you know, interact with my coworkers. You know, things get very busy sometimes. We don't see each other. Can I just put something together and deploy it? Oh, sure, let's do it. And so, yeah, it's contagious. Which is, and I've heard that over and over, a theme from some of the other end users, like Comcast and others. But it's so awesome to hear that that's happening across multiple industries. And it's not just one, they're a technology company or retail, this is happening everywhere. And it's so amazing to see that happening at a healthcare company. Yep. I'm gonna put you on the spot here, Alex. But what is one tip that you would give to end users just starting this journey? One thing that you would say, hey, if I had to do it all over again, I might would think about this first. Yeah, that's a good question. I think one key thing is expect change, right? So I think people tend to think that, yeah, hey, I'm just gonna go to cloud, it's gonna solve all my problems. And that is true, it does solve a lot of problems, but it's different, right? And you have to embrace the change and you have to work within the organization to drive the change and help things grow, right? That's awesome. All right, I hate to interrupt you, but we're going to interrupt our programming for a quick video. We're gonna livestream one of, we have an important moment in our community today and we wanted to showcase that Pivotal is going to be IPOing and right now, so we're going to livestream them ringing the bell. This is an important opportunity for us to showcase. This is an important moment for us in the community and for Cloud Foundry in particular. This began with Pivotal and originally contributing the code, but it also represents the momentum that Cloud Foundry has in the marketplace and the potential that that brings. And for us, we look at this as a really amazing validation of the power that Cloud Foundry brings to the table. So we're going to watch the B roll for a minute. Here it is. My name's Ryan Green and I'm joined by my colleague. My name is Ron Bowler and we're going to be bringing you the play by play as we watch Pivotal on their first day of trading on the New York Stock Exchange. Now listen, we may be taking breaks throughout the morning because I'm up 3-2 to Ron and he doesn't like losing, so we're maybe cutting it here a little bit to get back to our game here. But guys, a momentous occasion, your management team just rang the opening bell on an average day, Ron is the single most people. Awesome, congratulations to Pivotal. You know, this is really important for us as a community and again for Cloud Foundry because they're the first company to IPO with Cloud Foundry as part of the portfolio. I feel like, you know, IBM SAP, there's still an opportunity for you. Sorry, couldn't resist that joke. Oh good. I keep practicing my jokes and everyone's like, no, no more jokes, Abby. But Alex, you know, I really appreciate you coming up here today and letting us also interrupt with the livestream. But you know, I'm really excited about the work that Kaiser's been doing the last couple of years and we're excited to see so much more from Kaiser both in the community, but also in the platform in the coming years. Absolutely. So Alex, thank you so much for joining me on stage and for hanging out for the livestream. Thank you, Alex. All right, see you.