 And Sam, the cerebral versus sematic? The narcissist tries to obtain supply. The first question is, of course, what are the assets that are at my disposal, which I can leverage to obtain supply? So if you're an idiot with muscles, you will use your muscles. If you are intellectually endowed, then you would use your intellect. And so there are two types of narcissists, the brawn and the brain. There are those narcissists who use sex, bodybuilding, appearance, looks, attire, they cultivate, they nurture their external appearance, and they use it to obtain supply. And because the only thing you can obtain with external appearance is sex, there's no other thing you can really obtain with it, in today's environment at least, that's their supply, sex. So they use their external appearance to obtain casual sex partners, the mother bath, then this is their supply. And they are the somatic narcissists. Soma in Greek, ancient Greek, means body. The cerebral narcissists are narcissists who are intellectually endowed to some extent, to a very large extent. And they use their intellect for precisely the same reason. They are intellectually pyrotechnic, fireworks, you know, intellectual fireworks. And that garner supply, for example, I'm giving you an interview, that's supply. So their intellect, they display their intellect, their exhibitionistic, both types are exhibitionistic. They display their intellect, they bring into the table their brain, their mind, amazing mind, kaleidoscopic, colorful, stunning, synoptic mind. And this gets them supply. Now one thing that people I think are very confused about, there is no type of constancy. Cerebral can become somatic, and does become somatic. Whenever the cerebral loses a source of supply, or when the cerebral is faced or confronts a willing partner, he becomes somatic on a diet. No problem whatsoever. Now if a guru or a top level intellectual were to meet a very, very beautiful student who would offer him sex, trust me, he would become somatic, that's very safe. Somatic and cerebral are modes of obtaining supply, and narcissists are not picky, not choosing, whatever works. But for the intellectual narcissists, for the intelligent narcissists, what works is usually the intellect. So while there's no type constancy, there's type dominance, recessive and dominant. So the intellectual, the cerebral narcissists would emphasize this. Now usually cerebral narcissists don't look so good. I mean, they're not, you know. So it's difficult for them to obtain willing partners, willing sexual partners as well. So they end up in most cases being celibate, and they focus on their intellect because their intellect guarantees a stream of narcissistic supply and the interrupted stream. So why waste the time on trying to obtain sex when failure is almost guaranteed? Similarly, the somatic narcissists doesn't bother to develop his intellectual faculties if he has any because his muscles do the job pretty well. It's a default state. We all tend to gravitate towards what we do best. And what the intellectual does best is to talk, what the somatic does best is to display his body and then use it in sex. So they both end up doing almost exclusively this. But there is type fluidity, all narcissists, both if they can manage it. Would the cerebral be less, view the body as an irritation because it's the brain that is focused on that it's an irritation? Yeah, not only an irritation, but a source of negative narcissistic supply. I mean, it's not pleasant to be rejected by women all the time. You're a genius that you're unique, that you're this, but a woman takes one look at you and goes the other way, and she usually goes the other way with the somatic narcissists, who is not 5% your intellect. So the body becomes a source of frustration. And we have a hypothesis by Dollard in 1939. Dollard discovered that frustration is invariably converted to aggression. So narcissists, cerebral narcissists are very aggressive towards their bodies because their bodies are sources of frustration. They neglect their bodies. They punish their bodies. They tend to ignore their bodies. They're very neglected. Their health is failing and so on. They don't exercise, they overeat because their bodies constantly frustrate them. Now, with the somatic, Sam, if there is a lot less intelligence there, then that somatic narcissists can't be cerebral because there isn't the intelligence there to support it. So that would be sort of difficult to do that, whereas the cerebral... How lucky we are that we have 8 billion people because even the somatic can find women who are much more stupid than he is and can be impressed by his infinite intelligence. And Sam, the COVID female somatic narcissists, can you give us the characteristics of them and how they see their partners, how they work with their intimate partners? The vast majority of COVID narcissists are women. So it's a bit redundant to ask about COVID female narcissists. Most COVID narcissists are women. And exactly as most borderlines are women. The male COVID narcissists is extremely rare because male are testosterone laden and they are usually extroverted. They go out there and they get things done. They're hunters, you know? So the vast majority of classic narcissists are male. About 75% we think are male. And the vast majority of COVID narcissists probably also 75%, no one made a study, but probably are female. So the question is redundant. There's nothing to it because what I just described regarding COVID narcissists is about female narcissists. And in terms of the... You said in another seminar that the COVID somatic narcissists in intercourse views the partner as almost a dead object. I think you said something like that. The narcissists, not the COVID narcissists. The COVID narcissists would tend to be largely asexual actually because the COVID narcissists has a deep set in priority complex. She also usually has body dysmorphic disorders. She misperceives her body as too fat, too ugly, too old, do something. So she would generally avoid sex. She would be either a teaser and in this case she would have comorbid histrionic personality disorder. But even if she is histrionic, she would still avoid sex. She would be what used to be called Phrygian. She would engage in sex only when she is disinhibited. So many of these women would drink on purpose in order to engage in sex. They would abuse substances. Like alcohol or smoke, weed or something in order to engage in sex because otherwise they can't. To give them the freedom. To disinhibit them. Part of their inhibitions, part of the reason they don't have sex in a normal state is that their covert narcissism inhibits them. The feeling that they are imperfect, that they are inadequate, that they are repulsive, that they are inhibited, of course. And so to overcome this they drink and so on and then they are disinhibited. They have a grandiose view of themselves. There is something called alcohol myopia. When you drink you become grandiose. And you think you can do anything, you perceive your own attractiveness and the attractiveness of people around you very wrongly. It's known as beer goggles. And so it changes things and allows the covert narcissists to have sex but normally she would be sexless or asexual. It is the narcissist who regards sex as a form of competition. So it's the narcissist, for example, who would monitor how many times his partner climax or doesn't and would monitor other performance parameters or even inquire openly. Was I good? Was I good? Was I as good as last time? Was I as good as your last boyfriend? It's a scorecard. He keeps a scorecard. It's one big quiz show or something. So narcissists are competitive and ambitious and grandiose in sex as well. And they use the partner's body to masturbate with, on and in. There's no real interrelatedness or interconnectedness. But the partner is perceived as an animated dildo if it's a woman or animated sex doll with taste and smell and periphery. And so they masturbate with the partner's body. It's very autoerotic. In other words, the eroticism, and this was observed first observed by Freud, the eroticism of the narcissists, the libido, the sex drive, is directed at the self, not at others because object relations, the ability to perceive others, is interrupted in early childhood. The narcissists' sex drive is never externalized, it's internalized. And so the narcissist regards himself as the erotic object. It's very common for narcissists during the sexual act to actually look at themselves in the mirror or stop in the middle of the sex act. And have a look at their own bodies, like regard their own bodies. It's very common for a narcissist to go doggy style because in doggy style, you don't confront the partner, there's no partner. It's just an object. It's very common for a narcissist if he's forced to go in the missionary position to close his eyes and to imagine. So all these are what we call estrangement techniques. These are techniques to alienate, to remove the partner, except as a masturbatory object. When and if sex don'ts will become sufficiently humanoid and pornography, pornography will become holographic, all narcissists, I think, would stop having sex with real people because they are utterly auto-erotic. Now this would explain the propensity or the prevalence of narcissists in certain types of sexual behavior and certain types of sexual preferences. For example, narcissism is rampant among homosexuals. And when I say homosexuals, I don't mean only gays, I mean only men and men, but women and women and so on, and among bisexuals. Among bisexuals and homosexuals, narcissism is much more prevalent than in the general population, and the reason is simple. It's not because they are bad people. It's because homosexuality, by definition, is auto-erotic. You're making love to someone who is almost exactly like you, as far as genitalia and psychosexuality. Making love to another man, if you're a man, is essentially making love to yourself. In some ways, not in all ways, of course, but in some critical ways. Similarly, incest, when you make love to your daughter, you're making love to 50% of you. So incest is auto-erotic, and indeed the prevalence of narcissists among those who commit incest is very high. And narcissistic fathers and less so mothers, but mostly fathers, are very prone to committing incest. But the reason to commit incest is not the sex act. It's simply that the child is 50% you. It's exactly like making love to half of you. It's auto-erotic. Sure. It's the same getting back to the COVID somatic narcissist I've read that there's hypersexuality, there's hypochondria, often body surgery. What do you think of that? Among the somatic narcissists? The COVID somatic that there's the hypersexuality, that there's often hypochondria or body surgery? I don't know why they need to insert the word covered, but somatic narcissists in general have fictitious disorders. They're hypochondriacs. And it's true that among covered narcissists, for example, you would tend to find body altering behaviors. They have body dysmorphic disorders. That's true. The body dysmorphic disorders are more common among covers than among classics. Body dysmorphic disorders, extreme in the case of covered narcissists, sometimes lead in the margins to body modification surgeries and so on and so forth. There's a new phenomenon, for example, called lukemaxin. Lukemaxin is common among insects in voluntary celibates. And the vast majority of involuntary celibates are, in my view, at least covered narcissists, overwhelming majority of them. They are men, they are exclusively men, but the vast majority of them are covered narcissists. And perhaps that's the reason they can't find partners because they are covered narcissists and in this sense extremely effeminate actually and possibly latent homosexuals, just homophobes. So they hate to admit it. They have something called reaction formation, their homophobes. So they attack their own essence, which they refuse to accept. I think these are speculations. But the fact is that among insects, for example, lukemaxin is a new fact, new fashion. And lukemaxin simply means extremely expensive, maximum facial and facial surgery, which alters your face beyond recognition because the belief of insects is that they are loathsome and repulsive and that's why they are not finding partners. And so you have this phenomenon. Of course, fitness, beauty treatments, cosmetics, and so on are much, much more prevalent among covered narcissists, covered somatic narcissists than among classic narcissists. There is another diagnosis called histrionic personality disorder which closely mimics the somatic behaviors of covered narcissists. And histrionic personality disorder today, again, we think to unify histrionic borderline and secondary psychopathy into a single diagnosis. So that would sit well with the psychopathic tendencies of covered narcissists. Even when it comes to their bodies and their sexuality, they would tend to react like psychopaths do. Now, psychopaths don't hesitate to undergo surgery. They treat their own bodies like malleable objects that can play with them just because they're goal-oriented. Because they're goal-oriented, they would use anything they go, their bodies, their children, their family, their friends, their so-called friends. I mean, psychopaths are like in exorbitant machines. They have a goal and they go there. Anyone on the way is mowed down and killed them. So covered, somatic covered narcissists probably are combinations of histrionic and psychopathic. And they would be very concerned with their bodies, with their health and with their sex, more in an instrumental way. Like they use their bodies to try to defray or reduce their internal ego-distony, their internal discomfort that is a result of the underlying inferiority. That's what Milam meant when he said compensatory. These are compensatory behaviors. They try to compensate for a toxic inner environment. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's interesting when I look at the covered narcissists how often they appear to be kind, altruistic, sensitive. They do community work like they clean rivers, they rescue animals, they priests, they psychotherapists. But what's underneath is very dangerous, which is what you're saying. Altruism, everything that is ostentatious is narcissistic. You can be ostentatiously charitable, conspicuously altruistic. If you have good public relations, like Mother Theresa, you can win the Nobel Prize. Nazism is surreptitious. It's shape-shifting. It's deceitful. It's malleable. It's permeable. It's more like smoke. More like smoke in mirrors. It's not something tangible. It's everywhere. It's what we call trotium. Trotium. It changes in the middle. You can't dress. It's like a slimy fish. You can't really get a grasp of it. And so compulsive givers, conspicuous...