 With your help, we can continue to fight for freedom. This is not possible without your generosity. Join our quest for the truth and our freedom. Simply visit www.realitycheck.radio forward slash donate to make a difference today. Now it's time for Cam's buddies. This week we'll find out what they think about the rollout of facial recognition in foodstuffs pack and save stores and how countdown Woolworths have added facial recognition conditions to the terms and conditions of their new card. My producer has them all lined up and ready to go. Let's go now to Cam's buddies. Welcome to Cam's buddies, Linley. You were a star last week. We had so much feedback about how great you were, so it's great to have you back on the show. Well, thanks very much. I'm not used to being regarded as great, but I'll take that. Well, you should take it, you know, because the feedback in the mail bag was that you were an absolute star and a voice of reason. And, you know, I just love having that little chat with you. And so we're chatting again this week. So this week, I thought we'd throw a bit of a curveball. You would have possibly seen the news that foodstuffs, which controls New World and pack and save and Foursquare, are rolling out a trial of facial recognition in about 12 locations. And then also, Countdown, which is renamed to Woolworths, have just launched their replacement to the one card, the new orange card that you've got. And in the terms and conditions that no one ever reads, it says in there that they can track your vehicle in the car park and they can match it to your card and possibly do facial recognition as well. What are your thoughts on that? Well, I am pretty stunned, to be fair, but I must put in a disclosure here. I don't shop at Countdown. I find it a very disagreeable place in general. But I'm really worried about their mice cam. I mean, down here, you probably... Well, you've probably read that we've got a very special mouse down here in Christchurch like Countdown. Yes, and he's been facially recognised now as a thief of potato and comrade salad. And I'm really quite worried about him because, you know, with animal rights and everything, I think, well, all mice look the same. So, you know, will they be targeted unfairly? That's my worry. Well, it could be. You can't really say racially profiled, mousily profiled, maybe. But I mean, what if they get a rat in there? Could the rat be mistaken as a mouse or could a mouse be mistaken as a rat? Well, they could be. They could be. And of course, if they're stealing, they are rats, aren't they? Rat bags. They said rat bags. Well, bags. You have to provide your own bags now at Countdown. So maybe it's not a rat bag. Oh, you shouldn't get me going. You know, I have done a lot of caricatures in my past, and this just winds me up, you know, I can see all sorts of visions. I can see rats pushing trolleys out the door and everything now. So we better get back to the serious side of it. Well, I remember when my grandfather had leukemia and he was in the hospital and I'd go up to visit him and he'd say, shh, shh, Cam, they're in the corner. And I'd say, oh, what grandpa? What's in the corner? He says they're rats. They're rats. They've got green singlets and red underpants on. Oh, dear. That's a worry. Well, those are good drugs, if you ask me. Yes, could have seen worse, couldn't he? Yeah, but that's the thing, isn't it? The reason why these stores are looking at facial recognition is because there are rats or vermin that are stealing from the shop and they're at their wits end because it doesn't seem that the police seem that interested in accosting these thieves, these rats that are stealing from the store and the store can't stop them. They can't physically stop them. So they need to have some sort of system in place to try and identify them before they get in the store to steal a trolley's worth of groceries. Yes, but I do fear that there'll be violence at that moment anyway, but I'll just relay a little thing, an experience I had several years ago. I had an overnight stay in Papakura, which I had done on quite a few occasions, in line with the Karaka Thorebred Yelling sales. And I was absolutely shocked beyond belief. I wandered down to Countdown, as I usually did, and was confronted by a bunch of hoodies lying sprawled all around the floor in the entranceway. Yeah, yeah. And you had to step over their legs to get in. And there was a huge security guard standing at the door, something I've never seen ever in my life. You know, I'm a quiet South Islander. This is normal in Auckland. But I'd never seen it. To even see a security guard was like horrifying to me. And I actually, well, you know, as a woman on their own, I feared for my life in that scene, and I took to my scrapers and good choice, because about six months later, a security guard at that very supermarket was killed. One of the thugs that hang around the doorway ran at him and King hit him, and he collapsed and died on the spot. So that would probably be, I don't know, between five and eight years ago. Yeah. Now, no supermarket should have to put up with that. Well, you know, in Auckland, security guards are routine at every supermarket. You know, I go to the Countdown here in Takapuna, and they have a permanent security guard there at the entrance. And that's just normal in Auckland to see security guards. And, you know, I was shopping there the other day, and I saw someone go in with their trolley into the self-checkout area. And what they do is they sort of pretend that they're going to scan the stuff, and then they scan it all, stick it back in the trolley, and then bolt out the door. And that's apparently quite common. And what happens then is the supermarket staff have to then go to that terminal and cancel each item out individually, and it takes time to do all of that. So it's a real problem in Auckland. I don't know what it's like in the rest of the country, but certainly there's large numbers of people that are entering these supermarkets, stealing whole trolley fulls of... We're not just talking about a ham down the pants here. We're talking about a whole trolley, and they just push the whole trolley out and load it into the car and drive off. Yes, well, of course, they've learnt to do it. They can get away with it. And so they do do it. Like I shopped at Pack and Save Today, which is an offshoot of New World. So my experience is completely different to yours. No security guards, lovely, friendly staff, nice, open, friendly shop, and superb service, lovely customers, we just don't see any of that. So how fortunate are we? But I don't really rate it as supermarket crime at all. I think it's about all crime. I think it's about broken down family structure. It's about uneducated, unemployed youth. It's about their often unsociable thieving role models. It's about victim identity, which breeds entitlement. It's about acceptance of crime, lack of police, and judicial commitment. It's about the pathetic dumbing down of the law. It's about society's overall dropping standards. And I quote, they shall not steal. And that does not have any that has no clauses or sub clauses, no principles, or anything of the sort. And we've come so far away from that that this is the result. Because they don't only steal at the supermarket, they walk straight into people's homes and steal, even when the owner's in the home. Even MPs do it. MPs do it. Yeah, and everyone goes, oh, you know, poor, poor girl is, you know, we have to understand that she's under pressure. Oh, there, there. We should be saying this is unacceptable. It's unacceptable for an MP. It's unacceptable for a general citizen to thieve out of stores. There's a reason why there's a crime. And, you know, we need to have our police to start to do the little things like stopping shoplifting, like, you know, going and looking at buildings that have got a broken window or something like that. Because if you look after the little things, the big things get taken care of by themselves. Well, that's right. And you know how that worked with Rudy Giuliani in New York. Very successful. I mean, he started off, everyone said he couldn't do it. He was mad and it was impossible. And he just organised a fleet of buses and staff. And people even got chucked in the bus and taken off and locked up for jaywalking, being a bit menacing, graffiti, anything of that sort. They were bundled up and locked up. And it wasn't long at all that the crime started to drop. And that just had a sort of ongoing effect. Of course, now it's the opposite. But it proved that that works. If you stamp out the first little nibble of crime, the rest follows. We have no standards at all, really. Now, we're not compared to what I knew. There's no real consequences for committing these crimes. And by the time they actually do get nabbed, they're up before the beak. They get a slap on the wrist with a well-soaked bus ticket if they can find a bus ticket these days. But if they can't find a bus ticket, I'm sure there's a spare tissue around that they can soak in the jug of liberal tears they have on the judge's bench and give them a very good tarling with the wet tissue. And there's no consequences. Well, of course, it's not that, you know, it's just like from my breadth of time on the earth, I have seen such a change, you know. And when I was a child, you know, if I did anything like that, the local policeman would have got me by the scruff of the neck, taking me down to the police station and giving me a thick ear. Well, my cousin was a police officer in a small town south of Auckland. And, you know, he was known as a bit of a hard man. And he used to go down to the pub on a Friday, find out who he was after, point to them and say outside, give them a clip and tell them to, you know, get round and take that stuff back. Otherwise, there's going to be harsher consequences than that. Well, that's right. But you see, things have changed so much. And because the other thing they did was drag them home to the parents, you know, which was sort of the pinnacle of all shame. But a lot of these younger criminals, they actually haven't got any parents as such. No. So they seem to be just running wild between family members and camping here and camping there. It's just a total breakdown. Yeah. There's a lot of hard work that's got to go in, isn't there, to solve this problem? And I'm not sure that facial recognition and cameras is going to do it. It won't do it at all, because all that will happen is the poor staff member that's got to confront those people and say, oh, you're out. There's a moment there of confrontation. And sooner or later, somebody will do something violent in that situation. And of course, they've got away with taking these trolleys out to their cars. So they're going to be very aggressive when they find they can't do it or they're confronted for it. They've got away with it, you know? Yeah. I mean, I feel sorry for the staff who work at the supermarket. You know, I was down at, again, down at Takapuna Countdown or Woolworths, as it is now. The other day, and someone was, you know, screaming at one of the staff members and they were just sitting there and taking it. Well, I don't have to take that. So I said to them, you know, take your attitude outside. We don't need this. And I said, well, who are you? And I said, well, someone who's quite prepared to get involved. So be my guest. Well, they decided that discretion was the better part of valor and slipped Alf out the door. But, you know, I just felt sorry for the staff and she's a lovely lady there. She's always humming and singing as she does her work. She's a real delight. And, you know, I go there and I'm thinking, you know, to myself, shall I go through the self-checkout or shall I go and be pleasant to this lady and make her day? And that's what I do. Even if it means I have to stand three or four people in the line to go through. So I can just ask her how her day's going and enjoy it. And they just don't get that. And I feel sorry for them. Well, they're brilliant people. And a couple of years ago when I had a tragedy to face, it was just so uplifting for me to go into places like that and the staff were just so nice. You know, they say, Hi, how are you? And how's your day and everything? And it just is uplifting to the customers. It's just rather a shame that it's dropping away. I mean, they must be really nervous. But I suppose it will feel click and collect anyway. I mean, we don't have to go to the supermarket to be abused, do we? I suppose. No, that's fine. I don't do click and collect. But because I like going there like you, I like to meet up with the staff. They are lovely. Well, they are down here anyway. Oh, look, they are lovely. And they do a really hard job and they don't get paid nearly enough. So, you know, I hope this works out for them. But I suspect you're right. And there will be a bit of violence and that will be sad. But we'll see what happens. Hey, Lindy, I've got to go to Paul. He's on the line next. He's waiting in the queue. So thank you so much for your contribution. And we'll talk again next week, eh? Thanks, Cam. That's fun. Take care. Thank you. Bye-bye. Bye. Welcome to Cam's Buddies. Paul, good to have you on the line again this week. Hi, how are you? Oh, box of birds. Fantastic. I thought today's topic is one that's, I've seen hitting the news and just been talking to Lindy about that. You might be aware that foodstuffs, which is New World, Pack and Save, and Foursquare are rolling out a trial of facial recognition cameras. And then also Countdown, which is renamed as Woolworths, have just rolled out their new loyalty card. And in the terms and conditions from that, they say that they can track where your car's parked in the car park and link it to your card. And if they rolled out facial recognition, they'll be able to do that and link that to your card as well. What are your thoughts on those? Oh, that's interesting. I'm a bit anti-the-state having recognition. And I know it's not stated supermarket. But once it's the thinning of the wedge, when they're saying that gay people just wanted to be able to be getting married, there was a thinning of the wedge. Now, everything is gone, Connor. Now, I don't have a problem with gay people getting married to be fair, but it's gone crazy in all sorts of broke behavior. And I think facial recognition software in a supermarket, what for? Now, I guess under the Labour government, I think very good reason, supermarkets, I heard some of that had doubled. And I'm using pictures of security cards at supermarkets getting assaulted while people are trying to walk out with trolley loads and bag loads of groceries. So my understanding is if there's 200 tests at a supermarket in a week, there's a good chance it's done by 10 to 15 people. And so the same people are doing the thieving. So to know that you've got someone in your supermarket that is a thief from facial recognition software, I could see how that could be handy. But what I don't think is handy is all the rest of us getting facially recognized. And it moves on from there to, I see there's places around the world that have facial recognition software so you can pay with your face. So you don't have to have your phone if you want to go and buy food, I think is a particular one. And so you've got facial recognition software with you and you walk in and you just pay with your face as far as the recognition is concerned. Now my thoughts on that are that's scary stuff because when we had the podium of truth and then we had, oh yes, it's all right for you to go to the supermarket but you weren't able to go to hairdressers and you weren't allowed to go to your gym. Jaffaes and rest rubs and all that sort of stuff, yeah. Yeah, so we're all locked down and we were locked down because of a government decree. If they then take over these facial recognition things that the supermarket's put in place because they say with a court order, no, we want to have access to that too now. And then they decide to bring in your 15 minute city and say, oh, well, you shouldn't be at the supermarket. You're 20 minutes from home by car, not 15 by foot and all these sorts of things. I think it's the thinning of the wedge as far as like if they had more bully stuff challenging people that feel that's probably a reasonable way of doing it where you're not having to impinge on all other customers. Right, so now he also said that if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear, but I think that's bollocks. You've only got nothing to hide because we're citizens that are peace loving and we're a good citizen. Until they change the rules on us and make draconian stupid rules like you can't go places without a mask or you can't go places without having a vaccine passport by vaccines that are a particular way. And that's just one thing that we know that they've done and they've been stupid about. And the fact is their vaccines have increased is my belief the all reasons mortality. Yeah, all cause mortality. Yeah, all cause mortality has gone up. Now, I don't like the fact that I can't go to the groceries and invite to the store of my food in the future if my face doesn't fit because some bureaucrats decided that I don't follow the correct amount of rules. And so I understand if the seeding is doubled under the Labour government then since COVID till now, I understand what could be something to do. I just don't like it because I don't think that people should be in control of knowing who's going where and why in Ireland. As you come to the supermarket and where did your park and all these other different things. Do you think maybe that this is a cunning ploy to get us to wear masks to the supermarket? So we get a mask with a toothless grin on the face of it or we are something zany so you can't be facially recognized and then they went in the long run because now we're all wearing masks at the supermarket. Well, it could be that. But I see China is very interested in getting all male DNA Y chromosome mapped so that they can get a profile of everybody everywhere and what they do and that's basically to help with authoritarianism. If they know what everyone's doing and what everyone's likely to do then that's where that goes. And whilst it's only a supermarket facial recognition they build up databases on all sorts of people for all sorts of reasons and suddenly we are not anything like it's free as we would. Yeah, you're right. It is a slippery slope and we've seen cafes in New Zealand. We're seeing other businesses full as fairies for example, they're cashless now and so you have to use a card for everything. I try and use cash as much as I can and I know you do as well but there's a whole lot of people out there who are blithely just complying with this and carrying on thinking that there's no slippery slope but what we've seen in the last four years is that the slippery slope is real and it can be quite slippery at times. Absolutely and when you see things like we're in a cashless society but the truckers in Canada didn't do the right thing as through the government and got their bank accounts frozen. Different slippery slopes then isn't it because now you can't eat, you can't buy stuff and you can't sell stuff and put the money into your account. I always just think there's no reason for people to find too much about you because your own privacy and who you are doesn't help to be shared and I'm a relatively private person anyway. I don't particularly like going on where people are recognising me on the TV or anything like that, I just don't do it but in times gone by I might have been more keen but now I've just seen the government can't be trusted with the power they've got and it won't be long before if all the supermarkets do it then many other places do it then government will be doing things like getting a warrant to say we have access to your security now and then I think we're in the wrong side of history. Hmm, that's something to watch out for and I tend to agree with you the slippery slope is real and how long will it take before they've got facial recognition at service stations or in booze shops or vape stores. It just keeps on going and then we've got cameras everywhere and we no longer have any privacy. Exactly and they know we're all your movements are all the sort of things you so then they target advertising toward you and not everybody has got a good budgeting and structure with their finances so that when things are being targeted they think oh it's a sign I should be buying that next thing you know they're spending money on things that they shouldn't have because they've been targeted specifically for them because of the preferences of what they search. Yeah, it's terrible and it will continue unless we actually say something that Lindley made a comment she said she's a bit concerned about these cameras because at the local countdown in near here in the South Island there's a little mouse that's been stealing salads. It's been caught on camera and she's wondering how will we be able to tell which mouse has been stealing because they all kind of look the same and I said oh you sound like you're profiling the mouse. She says well there might be rats because they're stealing and those are the types of people who still was quite hilarious actually. Yes, no I think that without it I'm happy to shop and I'm thinking that we might just be doing grocery ordering online and get it delivered to us and it's probably worth still because they really know you're buying everything but hey. Well that's the thing you haven't been you haven't challenged the teller in the supermarket for quite some time though have you? I have not. All right thanks for your call Paul and we'll talk next week. Okay take care Cam have a good day. Bye for now. Well thank you. Welcome to Cam's Buddies. Good afternoon Cameron. How are you this week? You know usual box of birds same as I am every week. Irrepressible. Boxing. Happy. Happy. Yeah yeah yeah all. The current political status things? Oh look I'm always happy it doesn't matter what's happening with politics there's always something for me in it. If you're losing you're still winning you reckon. I never lose. I never lose. That's the great thing about politics you don't like. The rules change the rules. Ignore the rules do whatever you want it's fantastic. Anyway this week you may have seen Foodstuffs which is New World and Back and Slave and New World are trialing and Foursquare are trialing facial recognition cameras and also Woolworths, formerly Countdown have launched their new card on the beginning of February and part of the terms and conditions in there is a right for them to track your vehicle record your vehicle market against your card and in the future they may want to look at doing facial recognition. What's your thoughts on these things? Well I've been thinking about this I'm in two minds I mean five years ago it would have been horrified against it but having been shopping in the last six months several times and seen people stealing trolleys and literally nothing happening and then when I've talked to the checkout ladies I've supported you guys call the cops they don't do anything they don't even bother coming. This is just a reaction. It's a reaction from the lawlessness of the last six years and private companies are doing something about it themselves. I'm not sure I'm happy about it but I feel sorry for the supermarkets where they've got cords of people that are going into these supermarkets filling up their trolleys and then walking out the door without a buy or leave taking all the stuff with them. Yeah and I've seen a guy walk out at my said mate with a trolley full of meat and just ran away and not even chase. They followed me out the door and he just ran out and then ran across the road and chucked it all into a boot and then drove off and apparently they sell it. There's points in South Auckland and West Auckland where they sell it. Well we're paying for that ultimately because the shops have a certain amount of what they do. I don't lose mate. That was my next point. They call it shrinkage. They call it shrinkage and they just load the costs up and they'll know on a weekly basis what the shrinkage is and they'll price accordingly and it's us. Law-abiding citizens that are getting punished for it. Yeah and that's exactly right. That's the point of it. It's adding to the inflation and adding to the food costs. So unless we see the police actually start to police our communities and have politicians that support policy around law enforcement then we're just going to see more private companies move to protect their staff and their product. And that's just another result of the six years we've had. The crime-friendly Arden regime. Yeah and that's what it is. I mean you can't blame the food markets. I'll do the same. I don't like it. Don't get me wrong. I don't like any tracking more. But they're trying to protect their assets and they never used to have to worry about it. Paul was on before and he was saying this feels like the slippery slope again. They've got facial recognition here and next thing they'll extend it somewhere else and then we won't be able to use cash and we'll have to pay for things with our face and a whole lot of stuff like that. He's not keen about it at all. And neither was Linley. Yeah well I'm not keen on it. Don't get me wrong. But I just understand why it's here. I understand that totally. But it doesn't mean we have to do that. But what are we supposed to do? I mean we can't stop them. There's no shop there. We're on masks. We know you like wearing masks. Yeah well that's the thing I said to Paul. Maybe it's a cunning plan, cunning ploy to get us to all wear masks at the supermarket. Yeah. Suddenly all the people who hate masks will start wearing masks and all that. Anyway it's a pretty crazy world camp. Totally. So. Linley suggests that it's a long list of things. A breakdown in law and order. A lack of a stable home life. No consequences. A whole list of things out there. I'm not sure we can fix this easily. And I don't think cameras are going to fix it either. Cameras won't fix it. They just make it harder for the seeds to operate. Because next time they walk back in the segment I can almost see them. Thanks to some AI face detection. Or they'll wear a mask and put things on their face to defeat the facial recognition and just keep on stealing. Yeah but I guess they would draw great suspicion walking in a balaclava or whatever. Yeah it's terrible. It's just another bad side for our society. It's like this. But you know politicians don't seem to do much about it. I don't know if they care. Well I think some of them care but there's not a lot they can do about it without pulling some really big levers. You know like enforcing education or enforcing families or you know. Putting thieves in jail. Well look I'd be I'm a super fan of putting people in jail mate. Like just until so the cost of jail is more expensive but just make jails cheaper to run. Well they're not that expensive to run in places like India and China and the Philippines. Maybe we should outsource our prisons to private operators that are used to you know serving up gruel and have a thin blanket and 15 to a cell. Imagine how that would go down with the work exporting our prisoners for their terms. It would go down like a cup of cold sick. But yeah we could just outsource prisons and just pay them a yearly fee which would be a lot cheaper than when we wouldn't have Nimbies complaining about a prison in their backyard either. So it would fix that as well. Maybe we could have like a con here. You know the flight's leaving Friday and it's going to be full of 200 criminals. I mean if the British could do it if the British could transport them back in the 1800s to Australia why don't we bring that back. Well yeah this is you've certainly walked off the public bare cam but anyway I don't know what to do about the facial recognition because I understand it and I don't particularly keen on it but I don't know how we stop them here because we've got to stop the fever. So unless we see some good criminal justice I don't think we're going to see the rollback of security features either. No and I agree with you. I don't think we are either. Alright Jimmy thanks for your call this week. One last kick. How come Costa's still there? He's overseer all this crap. Yeah I don't know why he's still there either. Maybe it's his pali text to Mark Mitchell although I don't think Mark Mitchell would care too much about that. I honestly thought he would be one change that we'd see quite smartly and that would see a big change in direction for them please. Yeah. Yeah why don't you talk about what is next term and when his term is up it might be coming up close anyway in which case it's cheaper to leave him there and expire his term and see you later Cyril. Yeah true. Okay thanks Cam. Alright mate. Talk to you next week. Yes. Welcome to Cam's Buddies Miles. Good afternoon how are you Cam? Box of birds as usual. You know causing mischief enjoying life. It's wonderful warm weather in Auckland at the moment apparently it's global boiling but I think we used to call it summer. Yeah I'm pretty sure these are the summers I can remember from way back when. Exactly when I was a little boy running around with my Fiji feet in the Auckland summer. You know we had brown hills and the fields were dusty and dry for weeks and weeks and not months on end. It's good to be back to how it was 40 years ago. And we didn't have water restrictions but that's a whole different topic. What I want to talk to you about tonight is this development of food stuffs and war worse and countdown and rolling out facial recognition in their supermarket. Now it's a trial to start with but we all know what happens with these trials they come to us and they're doing success and then they're rolled out everywhere and all of a sudden we're being monitored and facially recognised when we go to the supermarket and buy all sorts of things and we might not want other people to know that we're buying those things. Oh look facial recognition as a can of worms. I really love facial recognition. I want it to be everywhere. After all you know guess what what have you got to lose if you've got nothing to hide imagine what life would be like if you had facial recognition and you went up to the checkout counter and didn't have to use cash. Can you imagine? Oh yeah right. That's how it'll go, not. Yeah. Paul said it's a slippery slope and I agree with him on that if you let them wedge this in then next minute there'll be facial recognition at service stations, facial recognitions at booze shops and then it'll be very easy for them to then link your payment cards and say well I think you've bought enough wine this week we're not going to have any more wine in your trolley at the supermarket anymore you're a bit of a lush. Can you imagine if they decided that they didn't want to serve you well guess what but checkout wouldn't work, nothing would work facial recognition would be used against you if they suddenly decided for one reason or another this chap didn't have a vaccination we can't have him in the supermarket oh this chap he thinks and votes conservative we can't have him and what about all those pesky Christians we can't have them in the supermarket that's the thin end of the wedge I believe. Yeah the thin end of the wedge is true and the trouble with the thin end of the wedge is that what usually follows is the thick end of the wedge Exactly and that's why I'm such a big fan of facial recognition can you just imagine how it will make society so much better to live in it'll stop crime it'll make our lives so beautiful of course it will yes we really believe that Yeah just like if we reform the electricity industry we'll get cheaper power still waiting Well what about how if we amalgamate all the councils in Auckland we'll get cheaper rates and we won't actually have a behemoth spending millions on Miola Road at $750,000 per level crossing 28 of them Pointchev must be a very dangerous suburb Pointchev to require 28 raised platform pedestrian crossings I mean have they got like a whole bunch of hoons out there or is it more hippies like Russell Brown or Simon Wilson on their electric bikes that are running people over Clearly they don't have facial recognition I think Pointchev should have facial recognition everyone driving along Miola Road with their 28 bumps should be facially recognised anyone that grimaces that's it they can't drive Miola Road anymore Well what about if they decide that we shouldn't really be driving at all and all vehicles need to have facial recognition and you've used the car three times this week you've driven 500 kilometres that's far too far you know we've got 15 minute cities in the year of 20 minutes out of where your house is so the car stops working I just can't wait for that can you imagine how harmonious and beautiful the city would be if everyone was pinned up in their own three block area it's just ridiculous but that's the thing right it is a slippery slope because if it works here then other companies will do it and whilst foodstuffs and Woolworths have got the you know the financial wherewithal to do this eventually technology gets to you know become ubiquitous and then it infiltrates down you know can imagine it facial recognition at the local dairy no cigarettes for you you've had too many packets of chips this week and I tell you something facial recognition at the ATM machine why are you depositing that cash why are you withdrawing cash you know I mean from my perspective technology as you said always gets cheaper and once you get to a certain tipping point then everyone can afford it you just need to look at home security systems now with all the cameras on the internet that is ridiculously cheap compared with even 15 years ago so facial recognition 15 years ago you needed to mortgage your house and sell the left arm of your firstborn to afford a CCTV system in your house you're right now you can get it delivered via Amazon in about a week for three fifths to five eighths of stuff all and the best thing of all about facial recognition is guess what you know we'd be able to identify those pesky folks who insist upon you know having law and order who insist upon a decent standards in society we could isolate all of them and you know we could stop them buying food at the supermarket we could stop them buying petrol or they'd quickly reform you'd all have to think the same oh I guess that's called the social credit score is it I wonder where that's been used before exactly I noticed that some Maori groups have come out against it and I'm just wondering if it's because they're worried the bar codes on some people's chins are going to set off the system yeah I'm not sure that would be the work but you can just imagine that people got QR codes tattooed on them and the facial recognition system went bananas over the QR code that they read I mean there's always a way around these things and what are people going to stuff or perhaps people will apparently wear masks COVID is so dangerous you just have to wear a mask and facial recognition isn't we're on the 27th wave and we need to have you wearing masks at the supermarket but everyone doesn't want to do that anymore so what we'll do is we'll bring in facial recognition and we'll make you wear them the 27th wave it sounds like you're a bit of a surfer there can well you know what they say about every 7th wave is the big one oh my goodness is this facial recognition on the 7th wave I just can't believe the short sightedness mind you I've got a bone to pick with Woolworth those people are the people that instigated the plastic bag and I am a one man crusade for bringing back plastic shopping bags because actually I want to save the orangutans I don't like the idea of rainforest being chopped down to make useless paper bags I like multi-use shopping bags bring them back I say well you know I worked for food town when I was a nipper and I can remember the big fuss about paper bags well we've got to get rid of paper bags the orangutans are dying you know regardless of whether we used wood that came from rainforest New Zealand we don't so all of our paper bags came from and so we had this big push to get rid of paper bags and they brought out plastic bags and of course now we've got to save the turtles and we've got to save you know God knows what else from these plastic bags and so people just say the orangutans aren't trendy anymore I don't think so I think the problem is is they are a bit hairy and they don't look really that lovable and so you know it's pretty hard to get rid of a rat the most important thing is would the facial recognition be able to tell the difference between me and an orangutan I'd have to check up and get back to you on that maybe my wife would have something to say as well exactly well we've gone from Cam's Buddies tonight we've gone from facial recognition of mice and rats to facial recognition of orangutans so a broad spectrum of species we cater to all place exactly alright Miles thanks very much for your call and we'll speak next week on Cam's Buddies thank you Cam see you later my Buddies are awesome once again we've got common sense from them all I'm so 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