 Streaming, I'm all cold though. Yeah, I can turn that off. I think for now It's on dehumidify mode, so it stays on a little longer I can let you some I get extra All right, let's see All right, I think the stream is working camera stuff looks good I'm starting to record a bunch of videos for work because I have a studio at home. That's easy to use I'm not using any home shit for work unless they pay me. I'll just leave early and do it at home Like I'm working the same amount of time It's just way easier to do stuff with my rig here than to use like to work from home freely I've worked from home yesterday just when basically my what I'm gonna do it seems like other people are working from home a lot Right. Yep, but the engineers like that I can't get away with it because I like I need to go talk as much as I you know wouldn't mind doing that Right. It's like you know, I've actually basically they had the same problem where they didn't give me enough work to do Yeah, I've managed to give myself more work to do. So I'm actually doing the work and then I'm like they're giving me a ticket like like my two things were like just do discovery on this and this and I was like How about I just fucking date migrate all the data right now? And that's what I'm doing. I've done that a couple times I gotta get a spike open like hey, we're gonna investigate Like check the validation for all these fields. I'm like, I'm just gonna import all the data right now Yeah, I don't need to wait for that. I'll just do it and see what happens. I'll figure it out I'm doing it But the so I'm doing work, right? I was like other people are working from like every fucking day I'm just working from home like once every other week to do laundry and now on the weekend I never had to do laundry or clean or anything my apartment is 100% clean right now because I didn't go work yesterday Yeah, I mean I still worked a little bit lot of my engineers work from home a lot Like every day in the chat They're working. Yeah, they actually are they're gonna start working eight hours worth a day the same as if they had come to the office Yeah, cuz they're stopping to play a video game at one o'clock and they they seem to be just working Oh, we're streaming just remember if you could you come in and talk no one can hear you Put a in your room Mike You have my room Mike The boundary Mike is in your apartment. I'll take it back if you're not you can have that back Because then I can mount it on the wall there and then when we get the Emily under lured. She can be in the stream All right Well, we got someone watching too Go away. It's Thursday, June 21st 2018. I'm rim. I'm Scott and this is Geeknights tonight How we've changed in 20 years All right, whatever We bought that a long time ago those things have like lifetime warranties though right because there's like the bad That's the badass microphone. I'd say moderately badass microphone. It's the newer one, too I should check but it's the last forever, right? They're supposed to be invincible. Yeah, but I don't know what the actual warranty is All right, anyway, I'm just gonna play this back steams We'll be everything of G wasn't on sale enough That's good enough Okay, dude, dude. Oh, there's there. There's still only one person watching you don't have to work too much Sad for now go away person. I haven't said anything yet, but they're still watching if they're wise They will go do something else with their time They pub G and that's would be better. That was one example of a thing you could do All right They could go and sesame shit on fire and that would be a better use of their time So this is Thursday, obviously not Tuesday, but it's worth mentioning that both Scott and I because it's on sale But pub G well, I mean it was originally I was like, oh man That game looks like the kind of thing I want to play but I don't got time and then I was like, you know Especially when he gave you the guy who made it gave a talk at PAX East that talk actually really made me want to play Well, I mean I already knew that I wanted it was my kind of game But I was like, you know that basically was like well It is my kind of game confirmed like I thought the thing is overwatch is also your kind of game And you won't play that but I missed the boat. I was like, oh, I'm too late for the pub G boat I can't get into it now But suddenly the game is on sale and it's like, well, you know what for 20 bucks Even if I play it and then only for a short time like maybe a month or so, you know and then stop playing it It'll be it's worth 20 bucks steam sale started today Whatever so I played it last night for the first time I played like between 10 and 20 matches and I killed One person I have so far killed zero people, but I almost killed one, dude This game is hard. Yeah, dude. I almost killed Still fun despite being hard and having some annoyances Well, I like those early days when I picked up Counterstrike and I was like, wait, what's up with this game? Well, I feel like people have told me that since I waited so long to play it It used to be worse. So I actually feel like maybe if I started earlier I would have been pissed off at it for sucking a hole for having a lot of issues And it has been polished much in the time I was it not playing it and now I'm less angry at it now as a result, which I guess could be a good thing So I guess for me as far from dead despite, you know, not no longer being number one Well, it's above this line that happens in games where it is Popular enough to where it might end up like Counterstrike where it'll just always be kind of going in the background for ever It's gonna last longer than the tribes of two. Yeah The thing is tribes to is still probably the most fun. I've had per unit time I played, you know, it's really online multiplayer. What's really weird is obviously I suck acid this game But I played those if quake champions is it is it was free on steam You can get it for it's like a it's like a free to play quake and I played that because it was free And it's the most loot box. It's basically quake plus loot boxes. I'm sick of this loot box And also classes But the loot boxes are purely cosmetic. They don't there's not a single loot box thing I could find in the game that was any in any way Material to gameplay. So it's not pay-to-win. It's it's a legit quake It was way faster than quake three or quake arena or any or any quake that I've played recently I don't like a quake one. It was a full speed quake It was I was like wow this I do not want this to be any faster because that will be beyond my abilities to control Obviously, I was a deathmatch. It was like a team deathmatch where it's like just get as many kills as you can of people I'm that are not the same color as you and Despite the fact that I was not like the best or anything My team won every time I played and I got a respectable number of frags every time So I still have some amount of FPS skill yet pub G is way way way way Like molasses compared to that but I killed one person Because we happened to spawn in the same place We were having a fist fight Then they went to pick up a gun and they punched them to death while they're picking up the gun the big difference is that pub G is Not about FPS skills so much as about situational awareness skills I have no situational awareness pretty much almost every time I got shot. It was like, oh my god where are these bullets coming from? Oh my god, I'm dead. It's always sniper across the map like picks me off I'm thinking it was a sniper. I spin around. I don't see anyone. I hide I get my scope out I don't see anyone. I'm looking all over the place. My favorite moments are where you they're still shooting at me The bullets are landing real close I'll be like in the woods and then I hear like And I'm not sure how if the gunfire was directed at me or not so I freeze and I'm gonna have to switch I'm gonna have to switch to using headphones to figure out. We have a hundred percent headphones when I play but yeah, I mentioned it because The good news is we're gonna play pub G and hang and like if you want to play with us I think we'll be able to get some groups together because a lot of there's much of forum It's already playing pub G who are way better than us, but also still really bad. Yeah, they're bad But they're better than us way better than us shows how bad we are but to awful They're bad. We're the worst. This is definitely the kind of game where if this had come out Well, they're poop. We're diarrhea much like Counter-Strike and tribes to if this had come out while we were at our IT This would have been our lives. Oh probably I would have played this every goddamn day Because it's got that army or like weapons factory thing I'm a it's Arma. Arma is funny your thing to say Arma is You have like 50 things to bind to your keyboard and I just left all I just left all defaults and learned them I Chained I change. I don't like that all the defaults. I like some of them But I just decided it's what I do in life as I just learned defaults. Ah, but the good news is my new policy They all assume you inverted your y-axis. Of course. I did I did not but I didn't change all the bindings Willy-nilly what I did is I played the game and as soon as there was a thing I wanted to do and the default wasn't good only at the moment where I had a reason to do the thing in the course of The game that I bind rebind it but I followed my ancient philosophy and a lot of the things you can do in this game our Analog is to things I used to bind to standard positions in old games that I used to play so like I haven't actually played a lot of FPS is where you can go prone And this is I think the only one I ever played that where you can go prone was soldier of fortune I'm not even remember if that's 100% correct. Yeah, so that was new to me Yeah, go and prone I ended up binding to crouching and I use it instead of crouching and crouching I bound somewhere else Yeah, well crouching I like how you could run while crouching and also walk while crouching. Yep, or you can like Whatever I spent like five minutes just prone crawling through the only thing I was gonna complain about like I couldn't Figure out how to use the scope like the right mouse button brings the gun up to aim But it doesn't to give you I had a big scope on the thing a scope I found was an item on the ground I attach it to the gun and I couldn't figure out how to get the scope and then I googled and it said double click the Right mouse button and that wasn't because it wasn't a binding like activate scope in the settings And then I was like I was annoyed that the game didn't teach me that and it was It wasn't setting but actually that's a good default. I liked it so also you notice you can bind Well, anyway, we'll talk about this in a Tuesday show, but we're playing PUBG and It's taking it into my overwatch time, which is a problem playing PUBG and Hearthstone and that runner died and I finished I went back and beat Skyrim and Mario Tennis comes out like today or tomorrow I actually started playing Fallout 4. Okay, cuz I never actually played it not playing that You know why it's on Steam cell for 30 which is too much because I got it in VR and it's just if you have VR and You have that game. It's real fun to play in VR But it wouldn't be worth getting VR just to have that experience is the way I'd put it So I'm I'm interested in the 76 one though. Yeah, it's I'm actually really into the online aspect of it because I As a 36 year old, I don't have time for single-player games that are long. Nope The way I played Skyrim just now in easy mode and I blitzed through it and ignored all the garbage I feel I have this feel like I want to play Final Fantasy 4 again. No, you can't cheat and blitz. Yeah I think I'm just gonna cheat I'm actually considering playing Final Fantasy 6 and Chrono trigger and cheating to just make like turn off all random encounters and Make my characters like level 999999999 and just win every combat without doing anything But then you know what I did instead Walk around and talk to everyone in town and then explore the dungeons for Final Fantasy 1 because I was feeling a weird craving to Play that again like a really weird craving like oh, I could cheat at that too. No don't even need to cheat I just watch an AGDQ speedrun. That's glitchless They don't talk to everyone in town. That's what I want to do is the talking We need to you got a while yet as GDQ starts in like a week I know my god So where does it start this Sunday? It starts soon speaking of things that are long that I don't have time for the world Cups happening. Yeah, and because I work in a very very international company. It's very interesting to see the stark line Most of the people who care about the World Cup We're not born in the United States and most of the people who do not care about the World Cup We're born in the United States. That is what I have noticed Well, I mean the thing is the World Cup like as much as we rag on the sportive soccer, right? It's like the World Cup. It's a cultural touch happens fucking every four years Right all the teams are based on countries So it's not like you got these teams of like, you know, whoever players you managed You know the rich team gets all the good players It's like no it's country-based where the country or from is the team you play and you'd think the rich country I don't have all the best players, but that doesn't end up being the case right it doesn't happen that often and It's like the most and it's like, you know, it's the most cared about but it's like it is for serious It's like I you know and all the aspects if they just weren't playing soccer I would be say would be more into it than like any other sporting events people who don't disrespect soccer Obviously, it's the biggest fucking deal in the universe Which one day there'll be an e-sports that is that big Like I'm on this giant open floor. It's on even in my newer small work. It's on this in the kitchen They got a projector aimed at everyone who cares and all the games are on on their second monitor Anytime you go to any restaurant in the city right now The game if there's a game on it's on yep every now and then I hear a little commotion because something big happened in a game Everyone I'd walk around the office. I'd say 25% of the screens have a little stream in the corner. Yeah but In terms of the World Cup I don't know. There's a big bracket and people are like really excited about the group stage and I just don't Oh, they're betting. Yeah, no people are really invested in this like company-wide bracket Maybe this big payout if you get it right you get big money Well, apparently anyone who has a Bloomberg terminal not just employees This is like anyone has the terminal can be involved in this really really elaborate bracket That's like right there like type magic word. That's the official bracket like go for it Why don't you go and just figure out like, you know, these go to the odds makers You know and they'll say these are the best odds just bet on the most likely outcome I don't know though Meanwhile, at least for the Stanley Cup Emily's bracket was was scarily open the envelope Lisa accurate So, yeah, World Cup's happening and Yeah, I'm not really gonna watch it cuz yeah, but I mean I watch it when I'm sitting in the room or a restaurant And it's on yeah, but I never intentionally I haven't I've yet to Purposely go to Google and like look for the stream and open it. Yeah, right? It's just if it's on I'm watching it But I don't turn it on so in some sad news If you didn't see this Coco the very famous awesome gorilla who could speak sign language Pretty well and was smarter than a lot of humans like legit smarter than a lot of humans especially very young humans Yeah, I mean they're reading this article also stronger than every human ever they estimate her equivalent IQ was between was around 75 to 95 that's that's for his gump level. Hmm. That's but Coco was an amazing gorilla And it's kind of sad that Coco was dead and if you do not know about Coco You should watch some of these videos and learn about Coco because I mean I think people have like heard of Coco But like you don't like what it's like they know. Oh, yeah There's a there's a gorilla that knows sign language But like a gorilla who got bored one day and ripped the sink out of her enclosure And when the handlers asked her what happened to the sink She literally lied to them in sign language in English and said her pet cat did it That is a level of deception that many humans are incapable of Straight-facely lying and blaming your cat. What would be even better is if somehow we could tell that Coco was actually, you know Not not lying thinking it would work But you know making a funny joke Coco made jokes from what I've read like Coco understood our concept of humor So you should learn about Coco if you don't know because if you don't if you haven't really watched videos of Coco interacting with humans It There's a difference between knowing Coco existed and crocking the ramifications of a gorilla who is that Intelligent in a way that humans can comprehend and you know This is one of the reasons why despite eating meats I don't eat monkey brain and I won't eat octopus and I won't eat Dolphin I really try to avoid eating octopus, but occasionally I bump into it I mean eat the it helps that octopus is way chewy and I don't like it anyway Yeah, it's only chewy if it's not the best octopus I also usually avoid eating squid because even though squids are way dumber than octopuses there They're also chewy. You're also chewy and kind of eh. Yeah, I Just I just really like the image the anime manga image of like a yakuza chewing on a dried octopus So in some other news that's actually pretty interesting because stuffs moving rapidly so if you didn't notice Canada legit fully legalized cannabis Like fully so you can just go to Canada get high. There's no you're not breaking any law at all whatsoever Yep, and you can just open up a weed store in Canada and just sell weed to any Canadian No, it's funny isn't a bunch of part like in Toronto. Is that what I said? I'm just confirming. That's true Yes, but it doesn't fully take effect until I think October so in October I can if I was Canadian citizen I could go to Canada. Yep in my backyard grow a bunch of weed Well, they're debating whether or not they're gonna let people grow it themselves or how much they can grow But probably okay. I can start a business in Canada. That's a weed farm. Yep Legitimately openly you can go to it. You go to a wine store and be like smelly. Hey, I would like a Bordeaux from 1988 or you can go to the weed store and the canabista and be like I would like your finest lemon drop. I can sell it to anyone Anyone over the age of 18 anyone just sell it over the age of a much in any quantity or Some it looks like some provinces have the right to set the age 21 instead, which I'm fine with and people who buy it Just can walk up with no With just age proof. Yeah, I as much as they want There's a limit on how much you can buy, but it's a really high limit. They can buy like a bushel A bushel of cannabis is a lot I know And then they can just smoke it wherever the fuck in the park in their house It's all if smoking it'll be restricted pretty much the same way cigarettes are Which I'm fine with you can't like use it in dry What if they what if they consume it in a non-smoke emitting way? Can they do it just fucking anywhere seems like you can just like go to a hockey game? It's Canada right and just start eating. Yeah, I mean people do that anyway. I know I mean Person who's vaping at the garden fuck you just yeah vaping no good There was a text message number where you can report things happening in the stands And you're lucky I forgot that number at that moment only only announced at the beginning of the game Yeah, I mean when I'm staffing conventions, I shut down the kids vaping I don't care what they're vaping because it had personally annoys me But yeah, this is actually a big deal because it unlike the US where some states have done it and it's complicated Canada is only the second nation on earth to fully legalize it in an industrial capacity the way Well, I mean this there's countries where like this basically lawlessness. Yeah Or countries what is the other practices? Is the other one just Denmark? No, no, it's Uruguay. Oh, okay But what what's I mean? I thought Denmark isn't famous for like having like, you know place you can go to smoke Yeah, but apparently the law is actually pretty complicated there. No, it's not just full open this yeah It's much it's much more complex than even I realized and I don't know a lot about it But always like that's the famous place that you used to be the famous place for weed smoking But I guess not now. Yeah, now everyone's gonna go to Canada and Portugal mark Denmark's tourism is gonna get hurt But it's a Canadian tourism. It's Portugal doesn't think where they basically decriminalized all drugs But they didn't legalize it like go to a store or just buy as much as a difference between decriminalization and legalization Yep So this is probably really good news for Canada's economy And it's probably good news for me because I own a bunch of Canadian weed stock Well, the problem is is that people who smoke weed tend to lean to the left and now they're all going to move to Canada for reals Not like before where they just talked about moving to Canada now They're actually gonna move to Canada. Well, there's some other news that that will maybe buttress that So new york state actually suddenly started moving Very quickly to legalize it and part of that was the no, that's just fake Cuomo Please reelect me and then yes November. I was about to get into that. They're not actually gonna do anything No, they're gonna do it this time. No, they're not. I think they are because there's a couple of things going on So this is all this is my opinion my read into this But what happened was the new york state health department issued after their multi-year study their actual guidance on Whether or not it should be legalized and what the consequences would be and the health department was like Yeah, there's no reason there's literally no reason not to legalize it not legalizing it harms people It's not a gateway drug. It's way less bad for you than alcohol. Like there's like go for it It's definitely way less bad for you than alcohol. Yep except as long the thing is alcohol only hurts other people if you drive Whereas smoking weed makes everything stink Yeah, I don't think people should smoke weed for one But anyway, so the other part of this is that Cuomo who's always been very KG on cannabis legalization mostly because he acts like a progressive when selection year, which it is because every other year He acts like a republicans Half the population of new york state lives upstate and apparently hates all that is good and right with the world And the other half of the population lives. There are there are cities upstairs. There are but generally The governor of new york state has to get has to deal with both the shitty people upstate in the rural parts of the country And the people in new york city who arguably outnumber them And he basically ignores new york city and talks a lot about upstate Even if he doesn't do anything for the upstate because the upstate people get real mad and vote for republicans If you don't constantly cater to their baby ass needs meanwhile the city He'll remember we exist During primary season because if he doesn't try he doesn't Oh, you need the city to get he needs the thing He needs the city votes for him to be elected because we have most of the people and governor is a popular vote Yep, and he loses the primary which only new york city people really know He needs all the state so that he can control who is in the legislature So he can actually control what laws there are because you're just the governor. You don't write laws I really don't like Cuomo. I'm voting against him in the primary like I do every primary Yeah, pretty much And Cynthia Nixon she checks off all the boxes of policy I want But the rally is I'm gonna vote for whatever democrat wins the primary because that's how things are right now But here's the other reason why I think he's going for it. It's not just primary season And it's not just that and it's not just canada It's because new jersey is already moving faster to legalize it And if new jersey legalizes it first new jersey is gonna get a shit ton of tax dollars That new york won't get new jerseys already got their sports gambling operation Yeah, new jerseys moving real fast on this stuff and new york realizes that's a lot of money They're leaving on the table and that I think is the reason why this is suddenly moving Well people go to canada too we touch and we're touching both canada and new jerseys He's stuck between people will be driving their weed from canada to new jersey Or vice versa I feel like if new jersey legalizes it first Path trains are gonna get shockingly full I don't think I think one person will just bring it over from the path train We don't need everyone getting on the path. Yeah, I feel like that is also gonna happen They'll just oh Why don't you buy some real estate on the other end of the path train next to the parking lot and make a weed shop there I mean we've seen that happen in the united states. There's precedent for this because if you don't live here Some states in america Allow you to have fireworks and some states do not exactly and if you Drive around the united states And you get near the border between a state that has fireworks in the state that doesn't you will notice a huge number of people selling fireworks 10 feet away from that border. You're literally you'll see a sign that says now entering Tennessee last exit where you can buy And then there's an explosive and there is a rest stop right there as soon as you enter tennessee You don't need to exit the highway. They'll just be a little turn off and there's people selling fireworks with a giant Firework store right there 10 feet across the line And then when you turn around and you go back into the other state wherever the fuck you came from because tennessee touches like six states Yep, tennessee is in fact the nearest state to us that has real fireworks touches a lot of states You drive back across the border to a state where the fireworks are not legal and police are waiting on the other side of the Now entering wherever Every time smuggling the fireworks every single time my family went on a vacation like anywhere Where we even went near tennessee. We were deferred into tennessee and filled the trunk with fireworks and bring it back into michigan All right, I think it was a good news bit. We killed a why don't we why don't we open a weed store right on the other Side of the pass train Well, because it's not legal there yet Just buy Jim sing just rent a store there and wait Yeah, get ready the thing is actually the weed stores are zoned specially so you that's hard to I can't see They gotta make it just get a vape store anywhere you want but not a weed store Yeah, it's stupid like seattle even like most of the dispensaries even though they're really nice and like really like they're professional They're all in weird places because of the weird zoning laws around it. Why don't we buy An abandoned strip club no one can complain if we put a weed store there Someone in the chat lives near such a border can confirm A person who can confirm bring me fireworks And then you be the one who sets them off because on the 4th of july that's pretty much all the cops do is look For people yeah, new york city fucking in new york city all the cops do on 4th of july is go around bustin people for fireworks granted in michigan there was that time when I was setting off some highly illegal fireworks with my brother and my dad and uh Suddenly three cop cars Turned their spotlights on right next to us. They crept up to us in the field They're like 10 feet away and a cop is running over to arrest the shit. Oh, I had a thing of it I have a better thing of the day now you're gonna change it You can change it You got a little bit of time So these cops just turn the lights on and they're running at us to arrest us I assume And me and my little brother because we're kids both look at my dad like what do we do and my dad says run So we ran with him and then he yells no Scatter don't stick together. They can't catch us all And we scattered into the woods and we all made it home like an hour later Having not been arrested, but the cops got the fireworks I believe this rim story only because he's told it repeatedly But I don't know if that encourages him just as long as he remembers his lie and says it over and over again Does that make it true? Both my brother and my dad would cooperate this story. So he's got a team of liars I know other people have teams of liars. He tells the same story over and over again I don't know anyone who has a team of liars. Yeah, except the republican party. Hey, oh You just lied right now saying you don't know anyone. Who do I know? You a team? I don't have a team team. Just cost her Team got to the thing is with the firework story is that pretty much happen exactly like that I uh in the agdq stream of chrono trigger when they they went back like there's a point where they have to grind gato At the same like when they go back to revive chrono more silver points Yeah, they need more silver points the audience sang the song the game goes slower That's the fastest way to grind the silver points to bring chrono back Okay, and uh the entire audience sang the gato song Literally every time they fought him. Okay, like loudly and in unison. They didn't find a skip for the dial There's no skip for that So while you look for your thing of the day the other thing I said to see already. Oh you did. Okay Why are people watching the show go away? All right, let's see Oh go get silver points. This looks fun playing chrono trigger better than watching geek night. This looks real fun This is way fun I just didn't market his like which is why I didn't find it so easily earlier All right, let me what was your other thing the day I was getting rid of it? Uh the github. Oh, yeah Which I can use later though. Yeah, you can save it on tuesday your github okay Yeah, I didn't notice your message because I put the I put my email and all the like messaging stuff on the other monitors. I don't accidentally stream it But anyway things of the day So I had a thing that I was going to use but I found this story this morning I laughed out loud so hard at work As I read this story that it fit it fits the pure definition of thing of the day. It's the best thing I've seen today Mm-hmm I'm not even going to spoil what the deal is It's a twitter story and it's one of those ones where it's basically screenshots of the text of the story Just people copy and paste the text come on the text is too big for a tweet You put the text in a paste bin and post a link anyway It's in this case and this is part of why I brought that up The fact that it is three separate sections is very important to the humor and wonder of this story Because screenshot one Begins the tale of a plumber at a hotel Who is using a industrial drain snake to try to deal with a clog that they cannot deal with like There's this preternaturally difficult clog right was it was the clog made of a living creature of some phase two is They pull something out of the drain and don't know what the fuck to do about it Yeah, it's some kind of horrible and phase three the third image Is one of the funniest goddamn things I've ever read Was it like a live raccoon or in the drain or something? I didn't drown all I'm going you've just got to read this story I am not gonna in any way spoil this for you It is real good and I thoroughly enjoyed it some sort of sea creature It is that's why it didn't drown So let's just say that the second panel It it opened like what they pull something out of the drain I'll spoil you for that did they use the snake and a snake came out now They got two snakes the filming one and a real one what they found in the drain I will spoil that here. This is leaping the mystery is not a living thing a human limb A shower curtain Okay, an entire shower curtain was something wrapped in the shower curtain like a human limb Just a shower curtain And the mystery that is open does that this is a hotel right a motel The shower curtain Is the shower curtain from the motel like the exact ones they use But the shower still had a curtain in it the shower in the room that had the clogs still had a shower curtain Yes That the the resolution of the mystery is some good shit if you're I imagine the how the you know the housekeeping if they come into a room and there's no curtain They put up a new curtain. They just have curtains. So, yeah, what you yeah, I you I read this story Whenever the second one i'm debating like all right. I'm trying to think of plausible scenarios Right, I guarantee you will never in a million years guess How the shower curtain came to be in the drain because it is amazing Okay, it's so specific and detailed that If this is an elaborate like if someone just made this story out. They're an excellent writer But I actually believe this is true So anyway, that's my thinking today. What do you got? So this is uh, these people are at the zoo And they're next to the tiger zone where the tigers hang That's a good place to hang out and you know, there's a glass wall and then a moat and then some land and then some tigers And uh, you know, they're standing with their back to the to the tigers chatting Some of them are facing towards the tigers, right? You know, just chatting with each other in a little group and one of the tigers starts to uh quietly sneak up on Their party member while their cameras are that is the quality. I think the word here is stock Yes, and uh, they're like they're basically like don't turn around don't turn around Don't move don't move. We want to see the tiger keep creeping up on you If you notice the tiger, it'll stop creeping. We want to see it to keep creeping Don't move don't turn around just stay still and the friends stay still and the tiger creeps And obviously I guess thankfully is blocked by the glass wall But tiger does what tigers do. Yeah, you see the tiger do what he do Uh, this is the best part of the video is uh, there's a part where the tiger gets close to the glass wall And you can because normally the tiger's in the moat, right? So you just see the top of its body moving slowly But when it gets close to the glass wall, you can see its feet moving slowly, right? Yeah that part Yeah, and you can see how the tiger how he creeped and uh, that's a good part tiger's got a plan Yep, he is foiled by one thing Ha ha ha So in the meta moment the Geek Nights Book Club book which we were going to do very soon Is Emily Wilson's translation of the odyssey by Homa if I had realized we needed to show today I could have read it faster instead of watching anime pretty sure the next the night. Yeah, I was too The I owe you the graphic designer stuff too, but I was playing pub g but anyway the uh We're probably gonna do it on the next Thursday show So not next Thursday, but the following Thursday our next Thursday Geek night show Will probably be the Geek Nights Book Club on this translation of the odyssey and it is give me a deadline great I mean probably I said probably what remember I am my day job now is I am I'm one of the people who has to make the official decisions for very important things Just make the first decision go with the gut every time it won't take long But I have learned very very carefully the arts of promising something But the actual words I say if parse logically do not actually promise shit That's your move. Yeah, but now that's on your move I've gone from being merely a dilettante in that skill to being a professional I am by the definition of the word a professional now at that move I am no longer an amateur. I am now I'm not a master of life I'm a professional of the act of promising something without actually promising anything So notice I use words like we will be likely projected. We are project. We are targeting the next Thursday show So, uh, yeah, uh, Scott didn't want to talk about anything on this Thursday show I do. I just don't have any show ideas whatsoever nor time to think of one nothing at all So well, let's indulge him and let him do whatever he wants and then I can go home I was thinking about this recently about how we've changed over the years because I was looking for Yes, people change is the thing that happens. But yet life is long. Your whole life isn't the same But some things change and some things don't what doesn't change Uh How I look apparently because I was looking for these old pictures. Well, you haven't changed how you look Yeah, but old pictures of scott look very different because your face looks younger your hair is different obviously I changed how I look but I look the fucking same when I was 19 as I do now except my hair's got this tiny little bit of gray But uh, I was thinking about like Have we changed like are there opinions that have changed? Are there like Big parts of our lives that have changed. I've drawn to try a strategy of pick various random areas of our lives Geek nights or non geek nights and try to look back 10 years and 20 years and see if anything's actually changed Like what were women's got doing in pc gaming compared to today in 2008 or 1998? In 2008. So let's talk about that first pc game pc gaming video gaming the iphone. It was a year old 2008 I was playing mostly we game I thought pc gaming was dead Yeah, we weren't playing too many pc 2008 That's around when I was you trying to use that shitty mac to make a podcast because and I was using a I was using linux on the desktop because there were no pc games. I cared about look at geek nights episodes in 2008 Yeah, I was looking at geek nights episodes in 2005 to try to figure some of that out, but two things like 2008 rim only played console games pretty sure I was playing we and ds games and mobile games And I didn't play like pc gaming was dead to me If you look at 2018 rim 100 pc or 99 to pc one percent switch And if you go to 1998, it's all pc no console So I every 10 years I flipped to the exact opposite spectrum of video games So by projection in 2028, I'm going to be playing only console games Do you like did you play different games in 2008? Like what games did you play when you're just like sitting around? I'm trying to remember. You really don't remember. I just I remember that you mean You know blurs together with all the adjacent years No, I don't know 2008 seems pretty because 2008 was the era when We'd been doing geek nights for a while already But we were still pretty close to our college years Like we were living up in beacon We hadn't really made plans to leave or like move to the city or anything episodes 2008 like 2008 was an era when we would do geek nights watch movies and play games and not do much else Uh, let's see bionic commander re-armed us in 2008 Uh, most of the episodes we did on the show were about old games But there was you know, we games in here a lot of board games in here Uh, professor latin. Yeah ds games Yeah, I feel like that was the era of like the portable console Oh, we did that our dwarf fortress episode was in 2008 Oh, yeah, we tried to play dwarf fortress for a little while back then because that was its pc game It's interesting though because back then i had a re-armed. I played that on pc Yeah, I guess that maybe that was the beginning of the resurgence of pc gaming Because I remember 2009 Is when I said fuck it drop linux on the desktop drop mac and went back to a windows pc permanently Yeah, I think it was mostly playing ds games in 2008. Yeah, even bad ones Like because we did an episode on fond of fantasy crystal chronicles ring of fates, which is that uh that game was awful The garbage ds one, right? Yeah, that was that we didn't even fit we played like I played it for like 10 minutes, but I played 10 or 20 minutes like 30 or 40 dollars for it because it was a brand new game I gave it away. I remember giving it away because it was so bad Yeah, that was definitely ds years around then for sure, which makes sense because pc gaming was still pretty dead The ds was super new when geek night started remember Yeah, it was during beacon geek nights when like you broke your ds fat to as an excuse to get a ds light In fact, I remember now I was working at ibm on co-op And I bought the the original ds you and I both bought it as fat the day it came out Yeah, because we thought it might be a virtual boy. Well, I mean, it's not we thought it might be a virtual boy It's the worst case a virtual boy. Otherwise, it's great. Oh, here's something that's different So 2008 was probably the peak era of us going to a lot of conventions Nowadays we've actually caught almost all the non-packs is out of our lives Well, I mean, it's just you know to animate cons 2008 did we go to I think that was when we still went to odacon I would yeah. Well, we last coming on two was oh nine Yeah, so 2008 was when we still went to katsu con and odacon and like anime necks And kinetic I think we went to those cons back then first of all a lot of our people came with us Yeah, even if the con did not provide a lot to do Uh, we still had people there and ended up doing a lot of stuff and having a good time Yep But then what happened is our all our other people stopped going to the cons because actually remember 2000 We would go to like but we're still going to like animate We stopped going to odacon for other reasons. Otherwise we would have kept going Yep, but I mean you can't now we would have stopped though We sure but we kept going to animate boston and it's like but what happened is because no one else was going really Or very few people were going And what you know, we ended up like you walk around you go there's an artist alley Go to you'll resume to your panels and you go to maybe a couple panels and the rest of the time Is like we're just hanging around in the area eating and yeah, I'm doing board I think the big difference is that it wasn't really Because remember us to make travel and put all this effort to something where we're just most of the time We're spent we'd spend time literally like sitting around waiting for our panel to start We got nothing to do So I think 2008 was actually a pretty like by coincidence that doesn't happen in packs Nope, but 2008 by coincidence was all our people still go to packs pretty pivotal year for our lives and for geek nights because that was the first year we went to a packs And I'm looking at all this stuff that is correct and you notice something very specific because 2008 It was in september we went to that packs. We did three geek nights episodes about packs in 2008 Yep, but 2008 we did two episodes just about fucking katsu-kan Because that was before we went to packs. We did katsu-kan But I think that might have been the last katsu-kan we went to I only went to not too many of them We went to like three or four. I went to three before you started going to the one where I got sick Yep, we went to one before that and I think we did one more and that was it I don't remember any other one. Those are the three we staffed maybe one more But before we staffed and did like all our big panels It wasn't more than two it was two or three because I went to three katsu-kans before you started going We're I didn't even do panels. I just showed up like oh shit anime con. Let's go But 2008 we went to packs and that was the year the fire nation attack like everything changed like we came back from cat packs Giddy and literally told everyone we knew yeah, fuck every other con we go to only packs is now and make and That was the year where like the next year we brought more of our people to paxes And then it wasn't till 2010 that there was a people didn't really go with us to packs. Oh nine It was mostly just well because while we have a lot of friends through all these coasts We have the luxury of having the infinite money to go to any convention we want not appear until 2010. I believe in 2010 Our entire con crew that used to go to like katsu-kan and odakan with us They all went to that packs that packs east And then after they went to that packs east they basically all dropped All the other conventions like that year like pretty much everyone we know stopped going to anime cons after they went to one Packs, but then fast forward two years later They all stopped going to packs because packs east is really hard to go to Packs east in 2011 2012 people stopped going to pack because 2012 was the year you couldn't get hotels anymore And then people go to magfest though for now I think some of them do at least you know people on and off go to magfest But I think everyone still wants to go to magfest because our like gignite set Like we have a set of people that go to the packs is with us, but the broader front row crew Really only goes to magfest now and no other cons Like it's the only con we get our whole crew together and that's a big change in our lives because 2008 Everyone we knew In our crew went to a lot of cons and like going to cons was a big part of our lives now Most of our friends have dropped all conventions from their lives except magfest And when we go they're not doing panels or staffing like we are so as an attendee And you know the time you know they don't have a ton of money. They don't have of infinite time They're all adults. Yeah, so the number of you know Do they really want to spend a weekend at a convention unless that's you know Unless their staff some of them are staffers or people who run conventions and those people are going still true But you know the ones who would just be attendees And aren't enforcers or anything. It's like why would they I don't blame them They're doing what I would do if I was them But what I did notice it was interesting is that The main reason they all stopped going to PAX East was just that it was too hard to get a hotel And it's too much of a pain to go to it The money wasn't even a factor it was the pain in the ass that it was I mean, it's if you if any of if anyone is not go if anyone I know Is not going to PAX East simply because you're having trouble getting the hotel and the Uh the badge and you just don't want to do with the hassle But you're perfectly willing to spend the money and do the travel and stuff like that Just let me know and I'll make it happen for you and I'll take the hassle away so you can come Actually, yeah, I want you to be there because actually we are working on a strategy to make Our PAX East experience be more like we have a bunch of people who go to PAX West every year And we manage to buy a bunch of badges and get through the queue and get room somehow and it works So we can do the same thing for east to make sure you go if that's the thing you want to do If you if the time if the because we cannot do that Only thing stopping you is the hassle and stuff and you don't care about the money or the time Then and you want to go then just let us know Yeah, because uh, but I worry that magfest will suffer the same fate if it starts to sell out in earnest I feel like magfest is going to start to be a real pain in the ass to go to in the coming years Yeah for for normal people like if you have a hookup all counts are easy to go to Is the problem Yeah, you need you need that hookup these days, but look at one time we were on a vacation We were in some you know rando tiny hotel like a holiday and whatever kind of place that you stop on the highway And uh, maybe it was new hampshire. I think we're in a hotel and you know, there's like the little there's those magazines They have only in hotel rooms that tell you about the local shit. Yeah, there's that little like there's like all those little There's also there's the little pamphlets by the entrance to the motel Right, so there was uh, there was one of those magazines in the hotel room There's all kinds of advertisements for local stuff and one of them was for an rv lot where you could park your rv and it was like We got hookups And I was like, you know, I guess I sort of knew that what they meant by We got hookups for you know, your electricity and your toilet and your water and stuff, right? But I was like, oh man, we got to go there and get hooked up Oh man, I'm looking at these little geekiness episodes. We're like really fucking pumped for katsu kan We like keep talking about it was hype then. Yeah. Well katsu kan actually back then Nowadays katsu kan still exists. It's still like cosplay city there. It's basically a different kan though Yeah, like it's called katsu kan But it had a complete refresh of the staff It's in a different place with different staff with different stuff like it's a different kan because the old katsu kan Was more like magfest than like an anime kan. Well, it was much less gaming than magfest It had a free-to-play arcade though. That was pretty fucking legit. Yeah, just small. Yeah But not even 10 percent of magfest arcade. Yeah, but it was a drunken 24 seven debauchers kan with a free-to-play arcade That sounds like magfest to me It had those things. Yeah So how about 1998 did you go to cons in 98? I didn't even understand that a kan existed in 1998 So I didn't know that when I went in 2000 when the anime club started talking about cons I didn't really understand what they were talking about. I didn't know what an anime kan was till 2002 when we went to one I like oh, no, I understood before then but I didn't like I didn't fully grasp like What are they talking about going to this thing? And I felt like whatever they were talking about I didn't understand it, but it was definitely not something that involved me It was something for someone else. Yep, and I ignored it mostly and whatever It's like nine. I had you know a con was the thing the only thing I had been to ever at that point was Imagine the gathering tournament in a hotel in New Jersey. I used to actually go to a lot of gaming Like I was going to gaming cons in middle school So I was going to gaming cons and land parties in 98 I went to land parties all over the place Like I'd bring my computer and play quick two or something or quick one something in the earliest ones Or like we'd wire up our null modems knew like the doom thing in a hotel And I went to a lot of like Grognar and ass old gaming cons where I'd sign up for a four-hour d&d session Like that was what I did in 98 and in the 90s Uh, yeah, so I was playing pokemon in 1998. I was not playing pokemon in 1998 Red I had red one actually 98. I was still playing magic A little bit. I was not playing magic in 98. I was playing magic. I actually looked it up recently I was only playing magic for like two to three years in middle school. So in 1998 I was playing magic with all the people I knew who played magic when I originally played magic And we can't play with the same cards. This is a Tuesday episode. Do you somehow? All right politics No, what were your 1998 politics? I didn't give a shit. Really? No, not at all I didn't even know the I mean, you know, there are things that I believed Generally, which are a lot of the same things I believe now But I didn't even know which was left and which was right or the density and democrat and republican 1998 I would just I basically was like, yeah, all politicians are fucking bullshit. They're all corrupt ass The fuck was wrong with your school? I don't like in 1998. I was taking like polyps high classes in high school Hmm like serious ones. I was I was actually getting I was reading a lot of like marks and marks's literature And being mad about it because I mean I knew what communism was But it's like and what capitalism was but like, you know Actually, I didn't care too much in 1998. But that was what 10th grade. I want to say 10th or 11th grade I had a teacher I won't say his name because I mean looking back now I see the difference between The literature teacher who had us read vonnegut and the social studies teacher who had a picture of strong thurmond on the wall Right now nowadays looking back. I see the difference But in the day, I was just it was just like, oh, this teacher really likes that, you know Congress person who's the longest person who's been in congress a long time So when I was a when I was it was either 1997 or 1998 But I was in 10th grade I had a teacher for social studies who took me and two other kids aside from the class one day like early in the year And he was like, listen you three are the smart ones So I think you're ready for this and he gave us all a copy of the communist manifesto And a copy of the play marks in soho and said I want you to read these and let's talk about them in a few weeks and That was a real interesting experience In 1998, so I guess you just didn't you weren't you didn't think about politics in the 90s No, I was playing games I was kind of really invested in politics, but I didn't know a lot about like Party strategy or at that time. I believe you should eliminate political parties, which I still sort of believe I was very caught up in libertarian ideas, but I got to put a big asterisk there because I learned about that until college because the way libertarianism was sold to me in the in the early to mid 90s was You shouldn't regulate things unless you have a good reason to and people should be free to do what they want Unless they hurt people and I was like, yeah, I'm all for that But that is not what the libertarian party is all about. They're basically just republicans. Yes At least now they are So how about 2008 politics Scott? By then you already had the opportunity to vote in multiple elections. I mean did you vote? Yes, did you vote? I voted every time I've been allowed to vote. Did you vote for al gore? Yes, yeah, I was in the year 2000. That was not in the year 2008. All right, so 2008 I guess you were active You cared about politics. Was there any issue you particularly cared about in 2008 copyright? Yeah, that is something that has definitely changed for us in 98 I was More mad about copyright than I was about fucking anything. Yes And also I was really mad about richard stallman style stuff like 1998 rim was so Fucking mad about open source software and about freedom of the internet and free speech on the internet And copyright on the internet and remixing and drm and cbd dpa type stuff 2008 rim Was still almost equally mad about all that stuff and now 2018 rim just doesn't give a fuck because that is like I think we were also at that point. I was also mad about I started to care about some new york state level stuff because we were voting to give more money to the mta on the referendum And we lost yeah Yeah, I remember that even though I voted yes And if we had voted yes, then maybe we wouldn't be yelling about the subway being shit eaten now Yep, the problem is Well, we were upstate and voting on you know what that's that was a that was an awakening I had because 2008 was when I was aging toward moving into the city like that I don't know if it was exactly 2008 that vote but that era it was around then plus or minus two years into the direction That was right before we moved to the city. It was no it must have been too early It was either earlier or it was 2008 at the latest But I guess that was an error when I was using metro north and that was when I had an awakening in state level politics in the sense that I recognized the problems that upstate new york was causing for new york city And I started to be real mad about it as I started to learn how new york state was structured because up to that point I still knew more about michigan politics than I did about new york politics because I moped by the 2008 era I mostly cared about federal politics that was the era when I started to actually care about the details of state and county Legislation in the place. I lived well. It's all like they'd never really taught me in school or anything before I was like Oh, I have to vote for a state legislators. That's who this person is. Oh, I get it is another No, I didn't go I didn't fully grasp that Until I had to vote for it but 2018 and I didn't vote for it when I was you know When I technically was getting like absentee connecticut ballots. I wasn't voting for that shit It wasn't until you know went to new york that I was voting for that but I guess the difference is I cared a lot about all these technology issues in like 2008 and Frankly in 2018 like while I still care about all those things There are way more important things to deal with right now Like I did not I cared a lot about open source stuff because nazis were not an imminent threat And now that nazis are an imminent threat. That is the thing I mostly care about politically. I mean, you know Maslow's hierarchy. Yeah, nazis are there. So I have to go climb back down the pyramid and start fighting with them again So how about like tv and movies and stuff because 98 like the night or late 90s I watched tv I didn't watch tv after that 1998 is actually the end of the era 1998. I was mostly watching DVDs from netflix. Yep, and I was downloading illegal I was pirating fan subs still because there wasn't really streaming. You were not downloading fan subs in 1998 Oh, no, not 19. Oh 98. Oh, it's going back first. Oh, I did watch tv in 98 I watched the simpsons on tv in 1998 1998 that my tv watching consisted of Simpsons inside felt which are on before slash after dinner. Yep. I watched those tsunami still on I think Yeah, vtas reruns. You know, I was watching a lot of in 1998 fan subs I was but I was watching on vhs Uh, new york rangers hockey on msg network. Yep. I was watching a lot of red wings But I just watched that on broadcast tv footballs. Yep. I was watching footballs I guess uh an anime and vhs that was not a fan. I didn't know what a fan sub was 98 legitimate animes 98 I was already deep in the fan subs in fact on sci-fi channel Like just recently I saw someone tweeted a picture on karty network at the time like, you know Powerpuff girls count chickens But like I would turn on the tv and watch the simpsons like I'd watch tv shows Yes, I did that But that was the end of that era because soon as they got to college never fucking watch tv again except we watch Very rarely. We watched lupin at midnight for a little while. I think we watched like simpsons two times Yep, but then that was when the simpsons got bad. Yeah And nowadays actually I thought you're talking about 2008. That's why I started talking about 2008 Yeah, 2008 I was talking about netflix dvds 2008. I was only watching two things netflix dvds and anime fan subs. I was also Uh Occasionally streaming some sports, but it was very hard to watch sports in 2008. Yeah, I pretty 2000. It was weird 98 I got some formula one races in 98. I really watched and cared about hockey a lot 2008 I wasn't paying that much attention because it was hard to watch 2018 I'm really watching hockey a lot sports. I was watching most actually were football because it was easy to get watch Formula one because people had a good way of bit torrenting it. Yeah, and actually baseball because the Mets were less bad Uh, that's that's around the time where the Mets made the playoffs and I bought playoff tickets And then in the final game of the season they missed the playoffs And then I had to got refund on the tickets But I guess I just went to this interesting transformation where I forget if that was 07 or 08 that happened I didn't really watch a lot of Serial quote-unquote television in the in that middle era around 2008 But now with netflix i'm actually watching a lot of shows again Like a lot of shows between netflix and hulu and crunchy roll and all these things I rotate through and I think the main reason i'm watching a lot of stuff Is that I don't have to go through the hassle of pirating it And I can watch it legally without ads All right, I think we killed enough time. Okay. Good. I go home boop