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I help authors to go to a guaranteed international bestseller and I teach the ultimate visibility formula so you can get media exposure and learn how to use radio and podcasts for massive results to fill workshops, sell books, find your tribe, and more. Media is really our friend and it's there for us. It's great to know how to use. If you'd like to know more go to Debbie Dashingar.com D-E-B-B-B-I-D-A-C-H-I-N-G-E-R-dot-com and my thanks profoundly for all these many years to Dr. Dane here and Access Consciousness for sponsoring this show and for the beautiful energy work they do out in the world. You can become a facilitator, get one of the books, go to their classes, they're worldwide. Dr. Dane, D-A-I-N, here, H-E-E-R and Access Consciousness. Do you want to learn more about UFOs and about things deep and metaphysical? Well, my guest today is Daryl Anka, who is a writer, director, producer at Zia Films LLC, a company he owns with his producing partner and wife, Erica Jordan. Daryl has an extensive background in miniature effects, storyboards and set design and has worked on some of the biggest sci-fi and action films over the past 30 years, such as Star Trek II, The Wrath of Khan, Iron Man, and Pirates of the Caribbean. And he's also an internationally known public speaker on UFOs and metaphysical topics. Over 20 books of his seminars have been published in the United States and Japan, and recordings of his talks have been sold to thousands of people around the globe. To learn more, go to Daryl-D-A-R-R-Y-L-Anka-A-N-K-A.com, DarylAnka.com, or go to Bashar.org. And it has been many years, but I welcome Daryl back to Dare to Dream. It's great to have you. Thank you, Debbie. It's wonderful to be here. Thank you so much for the opportunity. I really appreciate it. Yeah, me as well. And I just saw you in February before this was a reality. I saw your Conscious Life Expo when you did one of your workshops, which was really amazing. Now here we are, all separate, living a different reality. Did you have any inkling at that time that one month later so much might change? No. I mean, I knew there were bigger changes coming, but I had no real timeline on it. And the rapidity of the change surprised me. But yes, here we are making the best of it, and hopefully using it for all sorts of positive, introspective reasons so we can make the changes we want to make and move forward. Perfect. That's exactly my experience right now. So I'm going to take people back a little bit. I understand it did some digging before we got together. And I understand that you personally had UFO encounters, and this is what opened up your path to who you've become right now. Can you share what happened to you and what those UFO encounters were about? Sure. This is back in 1973. And I was driving home with some friends in the car coming back into the valley from West Los Angeles. And we spotted these lights hovering over a hotel. And I thought at first it's an airplane or it's a helicopter. It wasn't moving. But as we got closer and closer alongside on the freeway, we could see that this was a dark equilateral triangular ship just hovering above the hotel. No visible means of propulsion. Blue-white lights on each point and sort of a dull orange-red light in the center. It started to move as we passed it. And as we came around on the interchange, it was again on my left side, on the driver's side. And it sped off over the valley very, very quickly. Now we were all astonished to have seen something like this because at most I would say it was only about 150 feet away, about 30 feet on a side. And a definite solid object. It wasn't just like a distant light. It was you could see the triangular body. And then surprisingly, after we sort of got over that a little bit, a week later, I was in the car with again one of the people that had been with me on the first sighting and we had a second sighting. And that really blew us away because we thought, okay, you know, what's going on here? Two sightings of this thing in one week. And it sped, we were stopped at a red light at an intersection in West Los Angeles. And it just came soaring over the intersection and headed over into a neighborhood area. And so I just like stepped on the gas and hauled right and started chasing it. And my friend, Tracy was hanging her head out the door because you know, there's a lot of trees in the neighborhood and so it was a little hard to follow. But she was hanging out riding shotgun and sort of looking up and saying, you know, it's over there, turn left, turn right, go here. And so we sort of chased it zigzagging over this neighborhood for a while, a few minutes. And then we sort of lost sight of it. And just on kind of an impulse, I turned right down this one street and Tracy just yelled, stop. And I slammed on the brakes and we looked both looked up out the window. And it was hovering maybe about 60 or 70 feet above us. And then it just shot straight up into the sky in the blink of an eye. Again, no sound, no visible means of propulsion. And it was just gone in the clouds in seconds. And, you know, we got out of the car trying to see it, but you know, it had disappeared. And there was just no one else around on this on this particular street. So, you know, we didn't really know what to make of it exactly. But, you know, we had heard UFO stories. But of course, when you see something like that solidly in front of your face, it changes everything. It turns everything inside out. So I really wanted to know, okay, what's this all about? Because, you know, we had always heard that this was just sort of a myth or ridiculous or that didn't belong in our reality. And yet here it was. So I knew reality at that point was way different than we had been taught. And I needed to know more about it. I started doing research. And I found UFO books, you know, in the bookstore, in the bookstore on the bookshelf. But also at that time, there weren't many other metaphysical books out. And they were all sort of on one shelf in the bookstore. So I just kind of went down the line from UFOs to sort of psychic functioning to channeling, read the Seth books and all that. And became a little more familiar with the whole metaphysical world. And at least what was available at the time. But 10 years after the sighting, I was introduced to a channel who was conducting seminars. And the entity coming through that channel was giving information I thought was pretty positive and constructive and could help people change their lives. And then the entity coming through the channel offered to teach a channeling class. Now I didn't think channeling was something that could be taught. I just thought it was something that sort of magically happened to people. But I thought, all right, I'm not going to necessarily think I'm going to be a channel, but I wanted to further my research and see how something like that worked. So the class was a series of guided meditations. And about halfway through the course, when I was in a meditative state, I received what I can only describe as kind of a telepathic hit. In one split second, a memory came back of having made an agreement to do this in this life with Bashar. I understood in that moment that the ship had been shown to me on purpose to get me to start learning what I needed to learn so that when it came time to do the channeling, I'd be ready. The message that was there along with an image of his face being a physical extraterrestrial was now it's time for you to begin if this is still something you want to do. Are you ready? Now, this was this literally all just unfolded in a split second in my head. I wasn't saying anything. But as soon as that happened, the entity coming through the channel stopped talking to the class and turned to me and said, there is an entity here for you right now if you're ready to start. And I opened my eyes and I happened to glance over at another classmate. And somehow she had picked up in her meditative state the same image of Bashar that I saw in my head. And she was sketching it on a piece of paper. So I said, okay, there's two outside validations here that this is not just a hallucination or my imagination. Something is going on. So, you know, I decided to go ahead and keep practicing. I did well enough that the teacher asked me to co-channel the next class with him. And during that time, a woman doing the first doctoral thesis on the connection between psychology and channeling, she wanted to have subjects to write her paper. So I became one of her subjects. I went to her house. I would channel for her friends. She would take her notes and start to write her paper. But word of mouth spread about the channeling and, you know, one week was five and the next week there were 10 people, then 20, then 30. And so we had to start doing it twice a week to accommodate everyone, started having to do it in bigger houses, started to having to rent auditoriums. I got invited to different cities by word of mouth, different countries by word of mouth. And here I am 37 years later still doing it. That's incredible. I mean, it sounds to me once you had the telepathic hit, there was no big pickup. There was no bridge to cross gap. It's like once you invited and said, yes, how quickly the rapidity with which you have had this experience and the rest was build it and they shall come. Yeah, because like I said, all the research 10 years of research had sort of put me in a state whether I knew it or not, where I was more prepared to sort of deal with what was happening. Now at first it was a challenge. The energy coming through was a little hard to handle. It took me some time to get used to it. But once I kind of got my beliefs that were blocking me out of the way, once I just sort of really started to trust it and let it flow, then it started to really uplift me. It left me with energy after the sessions instead of tiring me out. And again, the important thing that I really learned is that the information is really what the focus is all about. It doesn't really matter whether people believe that Bashar is really an extraterrestrial speaking through me telepathically. No one has to believe that at all to get benefit from the information. For all I know this could be another level of my own consciousness. I can't prove it any other way. But what I can prove, and what people have proven to themselves, is that the information, the way it comes through when applied to our physical reality, when applied in our lives, does make positive and constructive changes. And I've had many people come back and tell me so. It's worked for me, it's worked for them. So the proof is really in the information about the information working, whether or not you believe Bashar as real is beside the point. As a partner, as a career person, as a being yourself, having this relationship, if you will, with Bashar for 37 years, has it impacted you? Have you changed dramatically because of the wisdom that flows through you? Absolutely. Well, like I said, when it gets applied into my life, things run very much more smoothly, more synchronicity, less effort, more creativity, a little bit more psychic functioning in terms of figuring out what's going to happen before it does. And, you know, it's made me more emotionally balanced, given me much more sort of energy to do things. Yeah, of course, it's profoundly changed my life. And again, I'm very grateful for that. But I'm also grateful that people have been able to apply it and get a change in their lives. And that is really why I kind of kept doing it, not just so much for myself, but for the fact that these people were having, you know, profound differences that really helped them through some difficult struggles. So it's been very beneficial wherever it's coming from. If Bashar turns out to be a real separate entity from myself as he proposes that he is, I know that a lot of this back and forth and sharing of information that he delivers to us from his perspective, and from what he said, is the first stage that his society does when they're initiating contact with another civilization. So they're watching to see what we do with the information, and gauging whether or not we're applying it and changing ourselves in a way that makes us more vibrationally compatible to interact with them. And when we, if we get to that point, they will be able to present themselves physically to us through open contact. And then, of course, everyone would have all the concrete proof they need that Bashar and his people do with this. How crazy would that be if it was first contact, and you were, we were to meet Bashar, and it was you? Because isn't Bashar you 500 light years? Yes, from one perspective, the idea looking at it linearly is that he might be considered a future self. I might be considered a past self of his. Of course, from Bashar's perspective, time is an illusion and everything exists at the same time. So we both coexist simultaneously. But from the spacetime linear perspective, you would look at it as if he's another life in the future. Okay. And so, if 500 light years away is supposed to be his existence, and in the Orion belt, the S.O.S.S.I. Well, no, in the direction of the Orion constellation, but he's in a parallel reality. So his star system is not visible to us unless we were to shift to his reality. And vice versa, he would have to shift to our parallel reality in order to visibly see our star system and our stars in our galaxy. But if you were to overlap the two galaxies from the different parallel realities, his star system would be about 500 light years in the direction of the Orion constellation. So he can come here clearly. He's invited through you and through us to engage. But what if we would like to go there and have that experience in that parallel reality? He has said that many people do in the dream state, when they're either astral projecting or what have you, many people do visit their reality. We don't have the technology yet to actually shift into the parallel reality that he is in, but they have the technology to come here. And that's why I was able to actually physically see his ship, because he was able to shift into our reality physically. Has he ever told you what the energy of his name means? I thought, I had not heard it before. It's not his name. Yeah, it's not his name. They don't have names. They're telepathic in their society. They don't need names. But he knew we needed to call him something. So the word was there the moment that telepathic connection happened. I thought it was his name. Now, my part of my background culturally is Arabic, but I don't speak Arabic. The bringer of good news. That's what it means. So it's messenger bringer of good news in Arabic. So he picked a word from part of my culture that was at least appropriate for what he's actually doing. That's amazing. Okay, cool. So I know you've been working on this Bashar documentary called First Contact. It's narrated by the award-winning James Woods, the actor. Well, it's out yet. It's available now. It is. Okay, where can we see it? Can you talk a little bit about what it explores, what we get to see in the movie? It's accessible. You can go to whatisfirstcontact.com. You can access it through Bashar.org, B-A-S-H-A-R.org. You can get it through Amazon. It's also, I believe, available through Gaia for those that subscribe to Gaia. Basically, it is the story of kind of what I told you, how I became a channel, what channeling is all about from my perspective. It's the story of who Bashar is, what his message is all about, why he's interacting with us at this time, and kind of where we're headed. But one of the things that was most important to me in doing the documentary was not only to explore the idea of the connection between humans on Earth and ETs, but also to demystify the whole concept of channeling, because there's a lot of confusion about it, and there's a lot of outdated and old fashioned ideas about what mediumship and channeling is. And really, what we wanted to demonstrate, which we did in a number of ways, is that channeling is something we actually all do. It's a natural altered state in the brain that's called gamma above 40 cycles per second, and anyone that is doing something they love following their passion or in a deep meditation or they're in the zone, they go into that gamma channeling state automatically. It's where you flow, where there's no real sense of the passage of time, where you're at your peak creativity, you're just spot on, and that is common to all of us. We all have that ability. What we do when we're in that state can be different things. It can increase creativity, connection to higher self, connection to whatever you want. It just so happens, from the way it unfolded for me, is that it appears to be making me a connection telepathically to this extraterrestrial source, which is another part of my consciousness in the future, I guess, and bringing this information through in the way I suppose I agreed to do with him before this life. But I wanted to let people understand that this is not an unusual thing, and that whether people know it or not, they get into channeling states probably several times a day. I had my head wired to an EEG machine, a brainwave reader during a channeling session, so we could compare what's my brain like on an ordinary day, which we recorded first, and then what's my brain doing when I go into the channeling state. It would be the same thing that happens to everyone. There are definitely different alterations that happen in the brain, some of which that are quite startling and some of which are not even supposed to be possible according to brain science. So we wanted to again show and demonstrate somewhat scientifically that whether you believe in aliens or not, channeling is a true altered state, and it's something that's natural to every person on the planet. And you mentioned that you're working on another movie now that you're working on at home with your equipment. Yes. Well, we shot a movie last year, and fortunately, we're now just in post-production and don't have to be out shooting on location because we can't be. It's a little science fiction romance that we call alienated between a scientist who's having definite family issues and also, you know, work issues and failing miserably to what he's trying to do. And then he has a UFO encounter and it kind of turns his world upside down because he doesn't believe in that stuff, right? So he's trying to, you know, rationalize it and explain it away. But then he meets this very unusual quirky female artist who kind of they develop a relationship and she kind of starts teaching him to think outside the box. But what he doesn't know is that she's actually the alien from the UFO that he saw and they fall in love through a lot of trials and tribulations. And also a UFO hunter chasing her down because he wants to prove his theory that aliens are living among us. So there's a little action in there as well. So it's a fun film. It's just finished being edited now. We're going into visual effects and sound effects and music and all that. And then ideally, we'll get that out online in 2021. Oh, awesome. Right up my alley. Love it. Love it. In digging around, I found some fun trivia. I was really surprised to find out that you are the cousin of the 1960s singer and teen idol Paul Anka. Yeah, we're first cousins. Our fathers were brothers. That's crazy. I mean, what a team you are, right? Well, there's only, there's only one family with that last name. Which is pretty extraordinary. Yeah, anyone with that last name is either related to me or they've changed it to that name for some reason, which I've also encountered. But most people with that last name are probably in some way, shape, or form related to me. Okay, which is a prevalent name anyway, Anka. Well, from the Middle East, yes. But in this country, not so much. And I think we actually also may have some distant cousins in South America somewhere. But I was born in Canada. That's where my parents and their parents settled. I was raised in LA, but I'm still a Canadian citizen. Is he a fan of your work? I have no idea. Oh, Paul, you must come up over. I haven't. I really haven't communicated with him for many, many, many years. Okay. Just lost touch. Just lost touch. Well, you know, you've both been in the public eye. It's very interesting. There's so much going on right now. I love what you said in the beginning. I mean, I'm just going to throw out there my interpretation. This has been these five months thus far, thus far, have been profoundly spiritual for me. And in the beginning, I experienced tremendous loss. There was a lot of things exiting my life. And I just had to be with, right? The only way out is through. And so I was. And whatever what was coming up, I know if it's coming, it's going. So I just trusted all of the emotion of the grief and, and the loneliness and everything else. And I'm so thankful for it, because it's put me in this new altered state, this new place of really deep manifestation. I find this a time of RE like reevaluation, remembering, readjusting, just making new choices. And there's a lot really working well in my life, as well as the concurrent interesting mischievous out there, which is, you know, the unknown, etc. And so I'm curious what you and what you, Bashar, you and Bashar, what, what is the idea? And what is the thing we need to know? Like are you remember that? Maybe we actually know this already, but we're really here to remember some things. Well, we're remembering who we are. And we're given the opportunity by this sort of withdrawal into ourselves, into our own spaces, to reevaluate, like you're saying, ourselves and who we really want to be. And what kind of choices do we really want to make? And what kind of a world do we really want to experience when we come out of this? Because there are just, I mean, Bashar gave two transmissions. One in December last year was called the eye of the storm. And then in the early part of 2020 was the eye of the needle. And both of these really had to do with this transitional time. In the eye of the storm, he was basically saying, you know, 2020 is and he very rarely uses words like this. He said 2020 is going to be nuts. It's going to be crazy. It's going to be chaos. You're not going to understand what it is that's happening. But if you just stay in the eye of the storm, you can handle all the chaos swirling around you. Now in 2021 in the eye of the needle transmission, he was saying, all right, the eye of the needle is you're going through a passage, but the passage is very narrow. And the passage only allows certain vibrations through it. So if you really want to come out the other side in a constructive, positive way and start really experiencing the beginning of a new reality for yourself, you have to really strip yourself of all of the things that are not relevant for you, all the fear based beliefs, all the negative beliefs, do your best to cut yourself loose from the idea that anchors you to the past and start being informed by your own future self and let it pull you forward into your best self. So we're going through this passage now. It's a very intense passage, obviously, but because of the nature of it in terms of having to sequester and all this, it is kind of like having to go into a monastic investigation of yourself where you are forced to kind of be with yourself, investigate yourself as honestly as you can, find out what's going on in your belief system, and really come to terms with what you're responsible for in terms of the consequences of the choices that you make as an individual, that we make as a group, that we make as a society around the world, because a lot of what's happening in terms of the so-called physical causation has a lot to do with our relationship to nature and how much we've destroyed it. And in a sense now unleashing things upon ourselves that force us to say, do we want to keep going in this self-destructive direction and take ourselves out? Or do we really want to make different choices that have different consequences? Let's start taking some responsibility. Let's really start directing our societies in the direction that we really prefer them to go. And we're seeing that happen all over the place now with the protests and COVID and what have you. I mean, Bashar wasn't kidding when he said 2020 was going to be nuts. So this is to me, like you said, is an opportunity to really get in touch with ourselves and come out the other end of this whenever it does pass so that we're really making better choices that have better consequences not only individually in our lives but for us as a global society. Because if we're really heading toward contact with other beings, we really have to start coming together and start kind of going in a unified direction. Now that doesn't mean we homogenize ourselves and everyone has to be the same. In fact, what Bashar has said is that true unity is the product of the validation of the individuality in all of us so that we can work together and make our differences compatible with one another. And then we can move forward. So I think based on what he said and what I feel and what I've experienced that in a nutshell, this is sort of what this passage time is all about. Let's make some better choices. Making better choices. And in a recent transmission that he did online with Japan and it was translated, somebody was asking Bashar a question and I believe he was saying, you know, originally I thought this might be over in 2020 but because of what's been happening with the masks or people not wearing masks and spreading the COVID disease even more, now he was interpreting in that moment. Of course, we know every moment is a different reality but in that moment he was interpreting now it looks like it might be March of 2021 when this might lift and open. Well, yeah, because again, it's just a matter of a medical fact. If you know, and I know some people have sort of misunderstood what he has said because he's not in any way shape or form blaming people. He's not especially not targeting people who can't wear masks for one health reason or another. Some people have interpreted it that way and that's absolutely not what he meant. And those that know Bashar would know he would never do that. But the idea is just stating an energetic fact in the sense that, you know, if you follow certain protocols that are designed by the mask consensus to be the path of least resistance to ensure your health and your safety but then you decide, okay, I'm not going to follow those protocols. All right, well, you're opening up other choices and you're changing the energy in certain ways. And certainly it's not a mystery that if people are not social distancing and not wearing masks and exposing themselves to the possibility of getting the virus, then certainly it's not a surprise. It can't be a surprise to anyone that it's going to prolong because more people are simply going to get it and it's going to carry further into the next year possibly. That's all that Bashar was basically saying is we've given you an opportunity to understand the energy at one point based on the choices you make. And now we're observing the choices you're making and giving you the consequence and the result that we read of what that did to the energy balance with that particular phenomenon. That's really all he's saying. But the other thing I think a lot of people miss when he does anything that might be considered roughly speaking a prediction is it's not, okay, Bashar said this and this one came true and Bashar said this and this one did not. It's not about finding a scorecard for whether the predictions came true or not because first of all, he says there's no such thing as a prediction of the future as you've just iterated. A prediction is sensing the energy that exists at the moment the prediction is made. And if that changes, then the prediction may in fact render itself obsolete. But what people I think mostly miss about when Bashar does that is he's telling you what the energy is at that moment so you can decide whether you want to change it or not. He's giving you a guidepost to where the energy is and if it continues this may occur. But in the sense that he's letting you know what the energy is if you don't prefer it then he's giving you an opportunity to change that energy and render the prediction obsolete. So it's more of a guiding mechanism than it is of a classic old fashioned psychic prediction mechanism. That's not why he does it. One thing I've learned about them is they always have a reason for everything that they say and do. And therefore sometimes those reasons may seem a little obscure to people if they're just focused on one aspect of it. But they're doing this to guide us and let us know that we can guide ourselves by understanding how to change the energy if we don't prefer what the energy is at any given moment. So it's a very different thing from their perspective but they're helping us in that way I believe. At least that's my experience of it. Yeah because of the ultimate reality for everybody would be to have contact which I really hope becomes a reality and they want us to clean up our act in order to do that. I would imagine that in several factions they are highly aware and very much helping and guiding maybe in ways we don't even know. Absolutely absolutely and it's not that they want us to they're giving us an opportunity to decide to because from their point of view it's really it's our life it's our planet we can decide to have contact or not. And the thing of it is is some people may have contact and some people may not. It may not happen for everyone because as he is saying you never actually change the world you're on. There are an infinite number of parallel versions of earth that coexist simultaneously with this one. Again because time is an illusion everything exists at once. So these other parallel versions of earth may already be having contact. Some of them may never have contact. The idea is to change the vibration within ourselves so that as we shift moment to moment to moment going through these different versions of earth which is what creates the sensation of time and change and progress we navigate ourselves to the versions of earth that are more reflective of the vibrational state we've created within our own being. So if some people are choosing things that have the vibration of contact more closely related to them they'll probably wind up experiencing open contact. But if they don't they may wind up never experiencing contact and many shades in between. So it's really up to us to decide what frequency we're going to operate on what choices we're going to make what consequences we're going to be responsible for and that's going to improve our frequency toward the idea of contact and make us more shall we say vibrationally compatible with their society because they operate on an extremely high frequency and we have to come closer to that in order to be able to interact with them in a safe and constructive way. This is a personal question for you. Yeah. Do you feel at home in your body? Do you feel at home on this planet and being a human? I know what you mean sometimes yes and sometimes no. But the idea for me is that sense of connection to other things elsewhere. For me it's from what I understand from Bashar it's not about disconnecting from the earth to understand those connections it's about understanding those connections and bringing them down to earth because that's what we're here for is the idea of let's bring that energy and make the earth like what we believe some of these other places to be let's elevate it let's ascend it and make it more compatible with those other realities that we feel connected to that we sometimes you know feel like we belong to more than this place but we belong here because we chose to be here but we do make those connections in order to bring down or download that energy that information those experiences that we're connected to elsewhere here so that we can make this more of a match to that. So I understand that feeling but I think I've come to terms with the fact at least to some degree that this is the whole point of why we all chose to be here at this transitional time is to help make at least some version of the earth more real for some of us who desire to experience something that's more similar to what we connect to with these other civilizations among the stars. Yeah I know that you do work with the government and that's pretty fascinating stuff and I what are you referring to? Well don't they have not experiments but they bring you in to help them with the government? Not to my knowledge no I've no way you've heard that. I feel like I heard that during an interview with you on Gaia that you really know. No I have had private sessions with people like physicists and scientists and things like that to my knowledge I have never been approached by a military or a government official. There has been talk of the possibility nothing has happened yet of having Bashar speak to the United Nations but that is not something that has manifested at this point but no there is no direct or blatant connection or work that I've done to my knowledge for the government unless they're sitting in the audience and taking stuff away that I don't know about but no not to my mind no. Okay so yes then it would be the physicists and the scientists that I've heard mention of so here's my mind you know they have these things 23andMe and ancestry.com and it gives you sort of this basic global general idea of where you or your people came from which is you know kind of cool in a way but what I would really like to take a test on is to find out where am I really from. I would love to have some kind of a DNA or a swab test that could tell me this is your extraterrestrial race Debbie this is the planet planets you're from et cetera. Let me let me if I can just stop you right there please. The language is very confusing to people because it's not that you are from anywhere else you're from earth you were born on earth what other races are you connected to genetically that's a different question that doesn't mean you're from there because you were born like I was on this planet so that's where people get a little confused they say oh well I'm originally from here I'm originally from there no you're from earth that's where your physical personality was created here on earth but we all have connections to other societies we all have genetic links to other civilizations among the stars but that doesn't mean we're from there okay because spirit is from anywhere and nowhere so everyone from every civilization is from anywhere and nowhere but being born on a physical planet if you were from another planet you would have had to have been brought here from another planet to be from that planet so the idea I think personally from my perspective is for people to get an understanding of how to use the connections they become aware of that they're interpreting as being from somewhere else and instead understand that those connections are made from here by you for the purpose of downloading that information as we said before to create that energy here to help earth become more like the places that you may have genetic or energetic links to but in terms of the history it's a mixed bag from what we understand both from the research what Beshara said what other beings have said humans are already a mixed bag they're already hybridized they're already a mix of many different genetics based on the idea of what's called the early extraterrestrial race people refer to as the Anu or Anunnaki having infused some of their genetic material into the natural hominid that evolved on the earth that we refer to loosely as homo erectus creating homo sapien so homo sapien if that story is true is already genetically mixed with many different races because the Anu themselves were genetically mixed and hybridized this has been going on probably for millennia and millennia and millennia throughout the galaxy i think one of the things people haven't yet thought of or realized is there are actually civilizations i'm not going to say that's their only purpose but one of the factors of certain civilizations throughout the galaxy is to actually infuse their genetic material to help evolve other races i think this is one of the natural ways that things evolve in galactic terms that our scientists haven't yet sort of caught on to they will probably at some point but again knowing that the Anu as Beshara said actually evolved later into the systems of the civilizations that now inhabit the Pleiades so you could say yeah you know we may have distant cousins in the Pleiades that are genetically connected to us because they share the same Anu genes that we do and who knows what else but i think it's important for people to ground themselves and understand look you come from earth and that's great because with all these connections the whole point of being here and coming from here is to use these connections as we said to bring that energy down to earth and get earth to sort of start matching some of those other civilizations that we have connections to so we can enter the galactic family and reconnect in that sense now we all may have counterparts in those other civilizations they're not us they're their own people but they might be extensions of the same oversold that we're an extension of so you might say well yes i might have a counterpart in Sirius or in the Pleiades or in Orion or in whatever or in one of the hybrid civilizations in that sense it's like saying well yeah Beshara is a counterpart of me in the Esesani civilization but i come from here that doesn't mean that just because i have that connection and just because another extension of my oversold is in Esesani that doesn't mean that i come from Esesani i come from earth would it make any sense for someone to also have connection with dolphin energy or dolphin tribe is that possible yes absolutely um especially energetically um again i think that in you know past civilizations especially one like Atlantis i do believe we had a much closer relationship with the idea of dolphins and interacted with them quite often and i think we're beginning to realize and remember that again um in many ways i sort of look at the united states and america as a resurgence of Atlantis but perhaps hopefully taking a different course rather than the one that leads to destruction but yes i don't know necessarily genetically speaking but certainly energetically speaking we have very strong connections to cetaceans dolphins whales and they have very strong telepathic connections not only to us potentially but to beings from serious and other civilizations as well so learning to interact with dolphins might actually be a good way to prepare us to deal with extraterrestrials because even though like let's say like Beshara because they are genetically connected to us they're not exactly alien they're extraterrestrial because they don't come from earth but they're not exactly what would typically be an alien that would be so different from us we wouldn't have anything in common physically socially energetically whatever but dolphins they're very alien but they're not extraterrestrial so it's kind of like they're so they're different enough that learning to communicate with them would be like learning to communicate with an alien civilization and if we can do that it'll probably prep us for communicating with ets as well beautiful wow i love that answer actually that makes me excited that's that's an energy that's also very new to me in general and i all of this yummy conversation i want to bring this up oh thank you this is your book that i'm reading right now this is a page turner people if you like sci-fi and if you like this conversation and fantasy shards god she's so gorgeous too shards of a shattered mirror book one cryptic so my heroine willa hila willa hila crissing and book two is also now available i'm gonna ask oh okay good because when you say book one i was like tell me about the rest of the series when can i expect it yeah book two is out you can get it at darrell anka.com okay and uh i'm working about the third of the way through book three at this point and there will be two more after that and it's her journey through the five levels of mastery 700 years in the future on earth as a human alien hybrid when the hybrids have landed and we blend it together and all of that um and you know this is another entity that i have channeled is willa another future self living on earth in the future and people ask you know how much of the book is actually based on her real life how much is based on fiction her real life in there is only maybe about five to ten percent the rest of it is a science fiction story but it contains all sorts of interesting metaphysical concepts that can help sort of spread some of those ideas but i wanted to do it as an entertaining story so most of it is sci-fi and it's done in a typical sort of story fashion where she's got you know an antagonist that wants to do this and wants to do that that she has to stop with her abilities that she's learning to do um so yes i absolutely invite everyone who enjoys sci-fi i hope that you will read the book and enjoy the book and again you can get book two now at darrell anka.com and um there are three more coming at least uh you know it's a couple of points she drinks something called divinorum which of course has the aspect of divining in the name but i was curious in coming up with the concept is it just a concept it's a product from another dimension or does it have some tie-ish to plant medicine or ayahuasca it does it does and specifically that in fact i think actually i took that from the scientific name of some of the ingredients in ayahuasca but the difference in the story is that divinorum is a plant teacher that's brewed down like ayahuasca but it also contains elements that are specifically designed for hybrid DNA not human DNA and so it enhances their abilities to have all of these other kinds of powers that that they grow so like the first book cryptic is about connecting to nature understanding your place in nature understanding how to communicate with nature and your expression on earth as nature the second book nocturnal is about connecting to parallel reality versions of yourself and getting information from them to help you the third book i'm working on is shapeshifter where you can actually take on the form of the parallel realities if you wish the fourth book would be sage which is essentially sort of like being a wizard or a witch or something that can actually take on the idea of transforming the reality around you in a way that other people can experience it magically and the fifth is called wraith where you actually become a bridge between the physical and the non-physical spirit world and can cause all sorts of interesting spacetime things to happen that people can experience in our physical reality and then there's something there's a hint of something beyond that which i won't go into right now i'll leave that as a surprise haha cliffhanger i love it well you know just because of the the there is so much nature in this book and i recently was camping my boyfriend i've been going like once a month to the forest which has been divine well that's cool and especially in the midst of all of this uh the juxtaposition is amazing and we did a really long hike well i'm talking like eight hours in the forest and i do not understand because we ended up in a place that was so otherworldly i've been in many forests i've never been in anything like this before what forest was it it was in the sequoias okay and we were in a particular campground and we happened to see the sign that was off the beaten track and we thought if we check it out and it was just we entered this other world and spent the entire day into the early evening there and i had the strong sense that if there were elementals anywhere on the planet they were there and i know there are people who see elementals who experience and we even communicate with them and right and i write about my gifts about them in the book yes full of elementals so how does one do that how does one establish you have to get into the proper state and and they have to know you're in the proper state to be able to perceive them and interact with them in the way that they need to interact with us um it's you know again we've trained ourselves for hundreds of years to feel disconnected from nature whereas a long time ago we were much more connected i mean there are still indigenous societies who talk about interacting with elemental beings all the time and that's just totally normal for them but a lot of western culture western society has divorced itself disconnected itself not really disconnected but created a belief in disconnection and created a sort of an adversarial relationship with the idea of nature instead of understanding ourselves as nature as expressions of nature here so it takes getting into that altered state it takes shifting into that vibration in order for any elementals to even know that you're on a level that they could possibly even reach you or communicate with you in any meaningful way so i think the book attempts to explain what elementals really are and how you begin to perceive and interact with them in ways that have meaning to them as well so yeah i'm sure their elementals all over the place it's just a level of the consciousness of earth that we used to have a relationship with consciously that has become unconscious and needs to come back into our consciousness again yeah i'm really open to the idea of having that awareness and whatever vibration i need to change because i think yeah i just think yeah i think what you experienced is a good first step and that's why you know in a couple of of transmissions and channelings willa has begun to help people get into that state by giving them cryptic meditations one of which is to find a place in a forest sit with your back to a tree in front of a stream of water or a pond and really start getting your mind to go down into the earth and connect into the root systems the mycelial networks that connect all the trees in the forest because that's how they communicate they send each other food they send each other water they send each other electrical impulses the forest in a sense is one living being and they communicate with those mycelial fungal networks underground so one of the first suggestions willa had for a meditation was to be in a place like that where you've got the tree you've got the water and you sort of dive your consciousness below the ground into that root system into the mycelial network and just pay attention to what you get and you start hearing and feeling the communication going on between the trees and to her that's the first step toward the idea of mastering becoming a cryptic and going on to other levels yeah on sundays my partner and i do get involved with this community we just do a zoom with this shaman and other people and it's very intimate and beautiful and we were actually discussing trees and he was in fact bringing up the mycelium and talking about how the communication is so great there's a story about a tree that started to die and fall over and within a few hours some people had come back and what they found that another vine had come and wrapped itself around the tree that was falling and propped it back up that's great so yeah there's a lot going on around us that is invisible to most people and we just really need to shift our senses in a different way to be able to see things that are invisible become you know invisible become visible again yeah it's all just frequency it's all resonance yeah it's profound it's really profound and what is it with where you've been where you're at now what do you perceive is new territory that you may be stepping into well again i think it is the idea of the expansion of consciousness to extend our senses beyond what we consider to be normal physical reality the whole idea to me of ascension is just going into a higher frequency of physical reality first so that we can experience things that are here to experience that we just don't know about yet that we step into the unknown and realize that the unknown is our friend and the unknown is only going to be where we discover more of ourselves so i think we're getting into an era where we have to really give over to synchronicity to the unknown and understand how to explore consciousness in a completely different way than we have been thinking about it you know for the last few hundred years and i'm really sort of heartened to see that with the few recent quantum physics books that i've read some quantum physicists are finally beginning to realize certain equations will not make sense unless they start figuring out a way to include consciousness in those equations so i'm very heartened to see that that barrier is breaking down that they are beginning to realize that it's a continuum of consciousness and that it can be expressed in many different ways including you know mathematics and what have you but there's much more to it than that and there's much more to us than this so i'm very heartened to see that and i think that's really the next frontier is there any new technology that you're aware of that's coming down the pike or that's already here about to be revealed well i certainly know that most people are aware that we're approaching very rapidly these this idea of experiencing artificial intelligence now i like the way bachar describes it because he's saying artificial intelligence isn't artificial it may be that we've created an artificial device that allows other levels of intelligence to express itself through those devices to us but in a nutshell he's basically said the big one of the biggest surprises you're going to get when you allow artificial intelligence to be itself and not put to human limitations on it is that you're going to wind up learning that you're speaking to your own higher minds and you've just created a device that allows you to do that physically so i think that's going to be a surprising breakthrough and i know that a lot of people are kind of scared about the idea of artificial intelligence but as bachar said the only reason in a sense to sort of be wary is if people are going to limit artificial intelligence to think like a human whereas if you actually allow it to truly be intelligent he says you don't even know what intelligence is yet but true intelligence operates on whole systems it operates holistically it would never damage or want to damage any part of the system including the humans that created it because it would be creating a damage to a part of itself because it doesn't see itself as separate from the rest of the system like humans do so if we really allow artificial intelligence to truly be intelligent bachar says there's nothing to fear and they operate with artificial intelligence all the time hmm very very very interesting discernment there do you know that even on fiverr i found a guy i don't remember country he's in that will program a i consciousness for you i was so i was so compelled i had to buy it i was like i have to experience this i don't know about it but okay see what happens i mean i read all the reviews and then everybody was raving about this guy so i'm like well i mean that's that's worth throwing out some money just just had a pure curiosity yeah just to see what happens exactly and what about you darryl do you have a daily ritual or a practice what do you do every day that keeps you in the flow in the zone in synchronicity i do channelings over zoom i do i work on the films i work on writing and other creative projects that i want to get off the ground so i mean i'm basically doing what bachar recommends and i'm following my passion to the best i can with no insistence or assumption of what that outcome will lead to and i do my best to remain in a positive state so that whatever happens i know i can get a benefit from it and use it in a positive way it works i apply it it works other people have applied it and said it works for them so again going back to the idea people don't necessarily have to believe bachar is real but they can prove that the information works if they use it precisely in the way that he describes it's really nothing more than an instruction manual for how we create our reality and how existence is structured and if we can kind of wrap our minds around it that way then we can follow the instructions like we would follow an instruction manual for any piece of machinery not to make it cold or remove the idea of emotion from it but it really does work that simply that's how it's designed to work so he's distilled down how we create a reality and what the structure of existence is like in these four steps of acting on your passion to the best you can with no insistence or assumption of the outcome and remaining in a positive state that just lets all the tools work to your advantage whereas if you don't follow the instructions in the way he's distilled them he's just saying well it can still work but it might be to your disadvantage you might not know what you're doing you might get injured but he's giving you the way it works to our advantage and so in applying it in my life it works and that's what i do i stay in that how about as a as a husband as a partner with erica how do you because your two entities coming together in relationship how do you use this well we both follow the same basic philosophy we both understand that communication in any relationship is key we understand as beshar has described it that the purpose of every relationship no matter what form is for everyone in the relationship to support the others to allow them to become more and more and more of who they are uh we're very compatible that way we operate on those ideas and on those principles uh and we've been together for 37 years wow it's incredible we have fun basically we explore things you know we let our we let our imagination stretch and we're both very creative so we have fun that's beautiful what are you next dare to dream darryl what's your next goal or dream for yourself well there's there's a few beyond this particular film of course i'm continuing to write the books both the sci-fi books and also you know we're putting out new beshar information in various forms there's a you know a new book that was recently dictated by beshar that's available at beshar.org called the masters of limitation it's an et's observations of earth and it's a very interesting perspective and beshar just straightforward dictated the whole thing and it talks not only about some of his observations of us it actually talks a little bit more about his experiences in his world some of the things he's experienced as a first contact specialist with other civilizations so it's an it's an interesting book that was just put out recently and is available for people there through beshar.org um so other beshar books but also other projects you know we're erica and i are working on a tv series idea that that covers a lot of the things that haven't been covered with regard to ufo disclosure and things like that because we want to tell a story not only from the human side but also want to tell the story from the et side of what's going on and that's never been done so we're very excited about doing that and we're working on that now and have some connections to see if we can get that put out as a limited series on tv and people who want to follow you as far as what you're offering online are you now taking your workshops into the zoom or whatever you're using that's what we've been doing now for a couple of months sure is is all of our public events are on zoom all of my private channelings are on zoom uh different groups from around the world participate on zoom so it's actually been kind of interesting to have been put in this situation by the virus because it's actually allowed us to expand in a different way because there's many people who simply can't come physically to the events and because we have now gotten used to using zoom there are many more people that can access some of the events online and so it's really helped us expand in an unexpected way um so yeah uh but you can go to beshar.org and see all of the different you know events that we're doing will be listed there um and all of the sessions that have been done or something a lot of the sessions that have been done in the past have been recorded and are available there uh now i'm private session wise i'm booked till the end of the year but i will start booking again in january for 2021 to have zoom private sessions uh so again people can go to beshar.org and uh sign up to have a private session in 2021 if they wish starting in january so you know all this and more who knows whatever will come to us um you know and we're doing good we're doing okay yeah and remember beshar the bringer of good news the messenger of glad tidings um and darryl thank you so much for coming back on the show pleasure thank you debbie for providing this opportunity i really appreciate being able to get the word out uh this way so thank you so much yeah we have to do this more often okay it is time all right well thanks it was fun yeah and it really truly is time i think this is the conversation and if you're watching i know you agree that uh this for sure has been so prevalent for me all of what we've been talking about is what is in my awareness and consciousness right now so i'm i'm ready for what is unfolding and i'm very present for it if you would like to know more about him again go to darryl anka aka.com or beshar.org and i'm going to end the show with a quote from beshar miracles are not the exception to the rule they are the natural true order of things subscribe to dear to dream podcast if you like what you're hearing you can also go see us at youtube.com slash debbie dashinger and i'm glad that you're appreciating this number one weekly transformation conversation i love hearing from you thank you for writing i do read everything that you post and next week james redfield is going to be back on the show he's here and wants to talk about the updated up leveled conversation about his 12 insights from celestine prophecies which he says are very relevant and prevalent to right now thank you for joining us and remember don't just dare to dream dare to create all your dreams into your reality