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And from Studio Fila and I'm Sarah Lane. And from pleasantly warm Finland during the day, I'm Patrick Veysho. And from slowly, increasingly hot Southern County area, I'm the just producer, Roger Cheng. Thank you, Roger. We have got chips. We have got drones. We have got monetizable DAUs. Yes. Everything you want in a tech show. Let's start with a few tech things you should know. JCPenney no longer supports Apple Pay, but the retailer told TechCrunch it's because it missed the April 13th deadline for supporting EMV contactless chip functionality. JCPenney says it has suspended all contactless payment options until a later date. Aw. OnePlus will hold launch events for its OnePlus 7 phone lineup in New York, London, Beijing, and Bangalore on May 14th at 11 a.m. Eastern. OnePlus is selling tickets to the events, but it will also stream them on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, and its website. Why didn't Apple think of that? Source tells Reuters that Samsung is calling back in all the review units of the Samsung Galaxy Fold. Another source said that KHVtech conducted an internal review of Fold hinges and found no defects. That's just a source. Samsung isn't talking about it yet. Samsung has delayed the launch of the Galaxy Fold, if you didn't hear about that, while it investigates problems discovered by journalists who were reviewing the Folding tablet. All right. Let's talk a little more about the new Intel chips, Patrick. Absolutely. Intel announced its 14-nanometer 9th gen H-series processors for high-end laptops. These are not battery extenders, which with 45-watt power draws but offer up to 5 GHz of clock speed. I can't read today. The flagship of the H-series is the Core i9-9980HK, which can be overclocked beyond its rated 5 GHz clock speed, has 8 cores, 16 threads, 16 megabytes of cache, and supports Wi-Fi 6. Intel says the chip will have 54% faster 4K video encoding and 56% improved gameplay compared to 3-year-old computers. The series is available now in Acer, Asus, Dell, HP, Razer, Lenovo, and MSI laptops. I mean, I'm keeping this laptop plugged in. It's got one of these series of Intel processors in it, but if you need a desktop replacement laptop, you're going to do some video editing in 4K. You're going to do some serious gameplay. 5 GHz clock speed, 16 megabytes of cache. It's pretty beefy. Roger, you were pretty pumped about this before the show. Well, it kind of marks, not a turnaround, but definitely a lift from Intel where they're noticing that, like, we need to start getting back into the game, so to speak, instead of just sort of coasting on our existing product line. What's interesting to note is that it's still relying on the 14 nanometer process and not towards the 10 that they've been having a lot of trouble trying to get to. But, you know, for the longest time, there have been manufacturers of laptops that have used desktop CPUs in them in order to generate the amount of processing power people needed. Intel said, well, why don't we just skip the middleman and give you a mobile processor that is DTR desktop replacement quality, and we can basically get you a very fast, high-performing laptop. But basically using a mobile chip instead of a desktop chip where they've already released. I think we'll see how serious they are when they start pricing these parts out. Now, of course, the high-end chip, the HK9980 is probably going to be the top of the bunch, but how much of a premium remains to be seen. But I'm pretty excited. Yeah, is that because you want to get something that has video editing capability in it? Well, typically once they start coming out with the higher-end parts, they start dropping, they typically within maybe half year start dropping the price on everything else. Right? So I'm hoping to get a good, there's going to be a point where your value goes up as they start flooding the market with these newer processors, and AMD will try to meet them somewhere in the middle. But it's definitely, I will say this, as a consumer, I think everyone will be benefiting from this, and it's about six months time. Yeah, because it always has a cascading effect, like you say. It feels like to me, and I don't know a huge amount about desktop replacements, which are a relatively niche type of desktops. I think a lot of people usually, when they go for desktops, want something that is relatively light, and these are not that. Maybe with this one, it will be a little bit more the case, but when you're talking about desktop replacements, it's not quite laptop-sized computers anymore, especially when you try to target gamers. Now, of course, this CPD component integrated GPU, so it might help more. But if you need to add a discrete GPU on the board, then the laptop size becomes enormous. And from my experience, the integrated GPU that Intel designs have not been sufficient for serious gaming. They keep improving by 40%, 50% every couple of years, so maybe they've finally reached something decent. But from what I've seen until now, it's usually not enough for anyone who gets that kind of laptop for a game without an additional GPU. Yeah, it's definitely a niche product. I'm not going to suggest otherwise. However, my experience, the target market for these necessarily aren't gamers, although there are gamers among them. Back when I was at CNET, we used Alienware gaming laptops to edit on the road because they were the most portable solution that we had as we went from venue to venue. Instead of lugging around even a shuttle box, which is maybe six, eight pounds total weight, still a lot to carry because you still have to have a monitor, keyboard, and mouse. With a gaming laptop or at least a high-performance desktop, plug in a mouse, you flip the screen open and you can edit out the gate. Now, I know there's at least one person out there right now who's saying, no, I want a desktop with a powerful GPU, but I only have $150. Well, guess what? Sarah can help you out. Nvidia's cheapest GeForce Turing video card, in fact, the GeForce GTX 1650 is now available for $149, which offers a lower power at 1080p experience for a more affordable price. The GTX 1650 joins the GTX 1660 and 1660 Ti. They're both based on the TU116 GPU. The GTX 1650, though, ships with 896 CUDA cores enabled, spread over two GPCs, clocked to 1665 MHz. Nvidia opted not to allow the press to test the 1650 cards ahead of time, though, so reviews have yet to come. In fact, an Ntech says this is not only highly unusual, but almost suspect. An Ntech also says that based on specs, though, it seems that the Radeon RX 570 from AMD is probably the best comparison, matching price, beating in performance, but falling off in features that relate to power efficiency compared to the 1650. An Ntech also expects the GTX 1650 to deliver around 60% at least of the performance of the next card up in Nvidia's product stack, which would be that 1660. So these are desktop cards. If you missed me saying desktop, these are not laptop like our CPUs. But yeah, more affordable options out there, although an Ntech is a little myth that they didn't provide reviews. They're like, hold off buying it until we can get a card and test it. They still think that the AMD cards probably are the better buys right now, but these are competitive, for sure. It's a weird segmenting thing that they did, especially with the naming conventions at Nvidia for this generation. And it's always, they always play around with things, but their current generation is the GTR 2000 series. And traditionally, the cards that you would like to get and that serve the lower ish end and mid range are the 60 series and 70 series. And with this generation, if I'm not mistaken, they were priced a lot higher. The 2000 GTR 2000 series was priced much higher than the equivalent in the GTX 1000. So the GTR 2070, for example, was much more expensive than the GTX 1070. And now they're kind of filling up the wide open gap that they had with this intermediary naming convention and technology, which I don't even know what to think of anymore. And I think that waiting for an on text review is absolutely the thing to do because not getting review units is always weird and suspicious. Yeah, yeah. And don't forget that this is not a fully enabled TU 117 GPU, although it is the first with the TU 117 that has a TPC fused off. So an Ntech also speculating that maybe we'll see a TI version of the 1650 down the road, but it's odd that that didn't come out now. Alphabet's UAV company, Wing is the first drone operator to be granted FAA approval under the rules for a traditional charter airline or small air cargo hauler. That gives Wing the legal authority to start dropping products to customers from the air. I mean, not literally on their heads, but drone deliveries. Wing plans to begin routine deliveries of small consumer items from retail partners in two rural US communities, Blacksburg and Christiansburg, Virginia, within a few months. Gaining the FAA's approval as an airline meant creating safety manuals, training routines, implementing a safety hierarchy, a lot of work. It took months. The approval will, however, now make it easier for other US owned companies like, I don't know, Amazon maybe to get approval as well, because the FAA has worked through what you need to do as a drone delivery company to get this kind of certification. If you're saying, wait a minute, this sounds familiar. Earlier this month, we told you the CASA in Australia approved Wing to make deliveries in the suburbs of Canberra, Australia. So that's already a program that is getting underway, and now there'll be one in the US as well. So it's happening? Like, it's actually happening. We're getting drone deliveries. We've had drone deliveries for years in places like Rwanda, Tanzania, even the UK, parts of Europe. We're just finally getting it from the people we expected to get it from, which are the big names like Alphabet and Amazon. I asked a friend. He grew up in Virginia. I was like, Blacksburg, Christianburg, know them, and he's like, yeah, they're very rural. And the whole idea with Wing is to get partnerships with retail partners that, well, eventual retail partners, but that already exist in these communities, which would be somewhat different than probably how Amazon might roll out something similar to this because Amazon always likes to have their own warehouses. So it'll be interesting to see what the, you know, is there pushback? You know, is the community happy about this? One would think if it works well, it's better for everybody. Yeah, it does show, though, that you have to be a big company to make this happen in the United States. Yeah, you're not getting FAA approval if you just, like, have like, You have to go through a lot of hoops to get this going. And I'm not even sure if Amazon will bother going through this. Maybe they will. They could. They certainly have the ability to do it. But Zipline, the company that's been doing delivery in Rwanda and Tanzania for years, is not going to go through this. I can tell you that they're not going to go through all of the procedures that Alphabet did. So it kind of leaves it in the hands of the big companies in the United States. I'm not so sure they wouldn't. I mean, if it's their entire business. And yeah, it's obviously a lot of work, but it's not an impossible amount of work. You go through the requirements that you have to go through and you have some people working on it. It's what they do all the time. They know this business. And the U.S. I think that's the key, though. You have to know the airline business to get this approval, not just the drone business. And I'm just guessing it's probably not cost-effective for them. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe. All right. Did you think we didn't have enough numbers? Well, Twitter is here to help out. Twitter's first quarter earnings report showed revenue of $787 million up 18% from the same quarter last year and net income of $191 million and earnings per share of 25 cents. The U.S. accounted for $432 million or 55% of Twitter's revenue with international revenues at $355 million. MAUs were $330 million in Q1, $6 million fewer users compared to a year ago, but up $9 million from last quarter. Twitter says this is the last quarter it will report MAUs as it will focus on the dailies which the company considers its more valuable number. Monetizable DAUs were $134 million in the quarter up 11% from a year ago. $28 million came from the U.S. and $105 million internationally, though the U.S. accounted for 55% of Twitter's revenue. Japan is Twitter's second largest market by revenue. So there's a big mismatch there. Roughly a third, maybe even you can look at it as a quarter of its business is domestic for Twitter, is the U.S., but more than half of its revenue is U.S., which means as good as it's doing on revenue, if it could figure out how to monetize those international daily active users that are monetizable according to this metric, they'd be bringing in a lot more money. I don't know that that's necessarily the case. It depends which markets we're talking about. If it is Western markets, certainly the revenue could be comparable to what they're getting in the U.S., but if we're talking about lower revenue kind of markets, poorer markets, it might not be possible to monetize them enough to make that leap. And they're talking about monetizable DAUs, which maybe they're not monetizing all of them, but I'm guessing they're monetizing some of them at least, and it's still not even reaching half the revenue overall. Well, I mean, that's the whole thing about monthly actives versus daily actives, right? Twitter is like, listen, you can monetize the person who's going to Twitter every day, much more than the person who might be checking in once a month. So the monthly active users, while an interesting metric, we don't want to, our next quarterly earnings, we're not going to talk about that. We're going to talk about the DAIs, but it is interesting that even though international markets is where Twitter is growing, the U.S. is still where it's making its bread and butter, at least 55% of it. And I'd still say, Patrick, without disputing everything you said about not all markets are as monetizable as other markets, that's a very good point. There's still such a gap that they've got to be able to make more money than they are. They've got to be able to at least even that out a little more and shift it to more of its revenue coming from international than the U.S. I think that's reasonable to expect. Monetizable DAUs means we're not talking about drive-bys. We're not talking about people who saw it embedded on a site somewhere. We're not talking about bots. We're talking about active users that are real people. That's important. Sure. They might all be in India, though, where, you know, that's not going to be. They're not, of course. Well, were there me and I never see an ad? I don't either. That's weird. I have never seen an ad on Twitter. I wonder if it's because they don't want to bother the people who have them. I'm still blissfully unaware. Because they're not monetizing it very well. Very quick question to finish us off on this. How much are you buying that the reason they're shifting the numbers is that it's a better one? Or do you believe that it's because they are giving up on actually getting more monthly active users? I think it's absolutely both. I think if monthly active users were continuing to go up, they'd still report it because hey, it looks good. But I also think there's a legitimate reason to say, but the DA uses, the monetizable DA uses particularly are a legitimately better metric for what we're doing. All right. Are we ready to talk about 5G? Yeah. I know we are. AT&T and Sprint have settled a dispute over AT&T's controversial 5G rebranding of its LTE service. Sprint filed a lawsuit against AT&T back in February. We talked about it at the time claiming that 5G was misleading, causing customers to believe that the network was actually 5G. Terms of the settlement weren't disclosed, but sources told the Dallas Business Journal that AT&T will probably continue to use the term 5G going forward. So I don't know. Some money was changed hands and everybody went back to the drawing board. So it's time for the public service message again. If you missed it the first time or the second time or the 40th time, if you see 5G on your AT&T phone, you are getting LTE service with carrier aggregation 4x4 MIMO and 256 QAM for faster LTE. You are not getting 5G service. If you see 5G despite the misleading name and it is misleading. A study by OpenSignal in March found that AT&T's 5GE capable phones received service about as fast as T-Mobile and Verizon's LTE, but faster than Sprint's. Which is why I made sense that they sued AT&T. Right. I do wonder if it was money changing hands, which we don't know. Could have been. We don't. If it was whole access or network access to Sprint. Hey, we noticed how bad your LTE number was. We could help you give you a little access to a few more regions. How about that? Make this lawsuit go away. What do you think Sprint? Talk to me. AT&T. That's true. Yeah. That's my AT&T voice. I originally was like, OK, Sprint got some money and now they'll just shut up. Yeah. The exchange of services somehow that benefits both companies makes a lot more sense. I like Drew Nielsen in our chat room saying the E stands for 5G. Not really. We bring this up again because I'm not going to call anybody out. But I heard people who are very tech savvy recently saying, yeah, I think I'm getting 5G. My phone said it. And another one was saying, well, wait, are you sure? Because you don't think you have a 5G phone. And I didn't verify this, but I'm like, oh, I've got there an AT&T. I bet they're getting 5G and they just forgot that that doesn't mean they're getting 5G. I think there's no other possible explanation for that. Yeah. And also I would love for you to actually call them out. But so I have a proposal of idea. I absolutely hate this. I think it is deceptive, dishonest and manipulative. The what, sorry? You mean 5G? Yes, 5G. The whole idea that 5G is what AT&T is doing. It's terrible. However, didn't they do this with 4GE a few years ago? T-Mobile started calling their 3G HSPA plus 4G, even though it was not. Right. It was annoying for about a year and or maybe a little bit longer. But nowadays it's long gone and it didn't, you know, everyone knows what 4G is. And 4G wasn't significantly impacted by these shenanigans of 4GE. And so maybe this is going to be the same thing. It's just we're annoyed by it on the principle of it. But how damaging is it actually? How many times did Sarah use the term 4G? And how many times did she use LTE when she was telling us this story? Zero. Well, she said LTE. Because that term got bankrupted early on. And we had to start saying, well, we mean LTE, not HSPA plus. I don't know that we're going to have to do the same thing with 5G. And I don't even know what the term, but the equivalent for LTE would be. Millimeter wave, maybe something like that. But could lead to that. And it leads to confusion. That's the thing. You have people who are like, yeah, I guess I get 5G. Cool. This is great. They rolled me out the 5G. And the thing about this whole story, and again, it's coming from the Dallas Business Journal that AT&T is like, OK, we settled it, but we're going to go ahead and still call it 5GE. If that's true, then it will continue to confuse people. Yeah. So pass it along to your friends. 5GE, not 5G. Yeah. Key by Amazon, however, is expanding. That's key. KEY to 13 new US cities for Amazon Prime customers, bringing the total of its 50, total cities to 50. Key, if you're like, wait, what's Amazon Key again? It's the $119 a year in-home, in-car, and now in-garage delivery service. This is the one that they'll come up, get your door unlocked with like a smart lock, leave your package inside your door, close your door. Well, now you can have your packages left in your garage. If you have a Chamberlain smart garage door with the MyQ connected garage door software. If you don't have a smart garage, Key does require an internet connected door lock and security camera for the in-home delivery or you can get in-car delivery if you have an active on-star or Volvo on-call account. Yes, Volvo on-call accounts. Yeah. And you can leave it in your truck. Yeah. It was funny. I recently got a Volvo as I've talked about on certainly good day internet. And it was funny. That was like a big selling point that the nice man selling me the car was like, and guess what you can do? You can get your packages put into your car. And I was like, all right. Well, I don't know. I mean, I'd rather just have it like inside the gate of my home because I don't have a garage. Home, too. This is for people who are like, oh, my car's out in the middle of a parking lot. That's kind of cool. It's a very cool novelty thing that I think probably is going to be very attractive to certain people, although it is limited depending on what car you have. And again, I don't have a garage. So I'm like, whatever. I think more people with garages will be excited. I think more people are going to be comfortable with them leaving this in their house than in their garage. Have you seen people's garages? What? I would much rather have somebody leave a package in my garage than my actual house. How many people keep so much stuff in their garage? I don't know. I'm with Sarah. Don't you keep stuff in your home, Tom? Yeah. I can't leave it like your value. It's easier to get into a garage. So if somebody, I'm not worried about the delivery people stealing as much as I am the person walking by going, hey, that garage has some cool stuff in it. Well, but that's why the security camera keeps everybody honest. Is there a security camera or just the smart garage door? I don't think there's a security camera required for the garage. Oh, that's just the front door. Just the front door. OK. Well, all right. So yeah, that would be a limitation. Yeah, I hear you on that. The other question I have is to Volvo and on-star users, what you're going to do with all that junk? Amazon leaves inside your trunk. I know. It's just going to melt. It's going to melt. It's even melt us and the heat. Folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day and about five minutes, be sure to subscribe to DailyTechHeadlines.com. And thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit. You can submit stories and vote on them at DailyTechnewShow.Reddit.com. Bookmark it today. Also bookmark at Facebook.com slash groups slash Daily Tech News Show. Good conversations going on in both places. Let's check out the mailbag. There's another place for good conversations. Absolutely. And in fact, we got a great one from Kevin. This was like, Kevin, Kevin, let me learn something new. Yeah. So Kevin says, I consume fairly large amounts of tech news every week, either in the form of podcasts, go DTNS or tech news sites, but I came across something today I've never heard of in my life. I was curious if Wikipedia was downloadable. Turns out that it is. The file is just about 15.4 G I B Kevin says, first I assumed it was gigabytes. And then I looked closer and I saw the little I in there and I looked that I looked it up and found out it stands for give a bite with a B, not a G. Anyhow, after doing a search on the difference, turns out that gigabyte is a base 10 decimal term and that give a bite is a base two or binary term where Gibi, maybe and kibby are called binary prefixes. Easiest to explain as with the kilobyte versus kibabyte, which has to do with that extra 24 bytes, we're all aware of where one kilobyte is really 1024 bytes, not actually 1000. So kilo mega and giga are nice round decibel numbers. Kibby, maybe and Gibi are the binary equivalents, ie 1024 1024 squared or 1024 cubes. Very cool. I love this, Kevin. I love this. So very Wikipedia to use give the bites because it's huge. I mean, I guess they have to. Yeah. Very surprising. It's only 15 gigabytes. Honestly, give the bites. I apologize. But don't you have in English, gigabit? Yeah, you have gigabit. And it is a speed measure. Gigabyte is based to 1024 squared, 1024 cubed. So what's the difference between gigabyte? What's the difference between gigabit and gigabit? Gigabit is a throughput measurement. No, it isn't. It's gigabit per second, the throughput measurement. But gigabit is the amount of data and gigabit per second is the speed. But the amount of data, I think you're asking, like, why, why are you using, why are you using a speed measurement for this, for this storage measurement? Okay, the reason the reason I'm saying this is that in French, gigabit and gigabyte are two different ways of measuring data. And one is the decimal and the other is the binary. And I think that in English, it might be the same in which case I don't understand what... Which is a whole new one. Another one that allows you to measure extraordinarily large amounts of data. Okay, I'll let it go and we can talk about it in a good day internet afterwards. Although, although, Kevin, I'm so glad you brought this up because as I read your email, I was like, what? I didn't really know that either. So, you know, thanks for schooling us and sparking some conversation. Also, thanks to Patrick Beja for being with us this fine Tuesday. Patrick, what's been going on in your world? Right now, I'm googling gigabit and gigabyte and gigabit everything like crazy. But other than that, I guess gaming is always on the forefront of my mind. If you enjoy gaming casually, then maybe you should consider subscribing to the monthly video game briefing, which we do every month with Scott Johnson. 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If you can join us live, please do so for 30 p.m. Eastern 2030 UTC. And find out more at dailytechnewshow.com slash live. Back tomorrow with Nicole Lee. Talk to you then. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Get more at frogpants.com. Hope you have enjoyed this program. Good night, Rob. So, Ramfea made an attempt, Patrick. A bit is an individual one or zero. No, I know. I know this. I'm not an idiot. Sorry. I don't mean to... You might be trying to explain it for others in the audience besides just you. Yeah, I apologize. But yes, I know that, of course. It's just that it turns out that in English, as you said, gigabit is only used in speed measurements. In French, however, gigabit and gigabyte are, as I was saying, different ways of measuring quantity. And gigabit in French is the equivalent of gig... How did you call it? Ghibibit? Ghibibit. Yeah. Ghibibite. Yeah. In English. Ghibibite. Yeah, because we're talking bytes, not bits. Right. So, in French, gigabit is the equivalent of the English gigabyte. And gigabyte is the same in French and English. So, we already have that distinction, which is why I thought it was weird that you guys... If gigabyte is a standard unit for data processing, why did the French come up with their own word for a standard unit? Because of that issue of base 10 and binary. Okay. That doesn't answer your question. No. I mean, yes. Why did we not use the standard term gigabyte instead of coming up with gigabit, which now confuses both of us because I think you're talking about throughput. I have no idea. But maybe we came up with that distinction before gigabit was invented. I don't know. Yeah, that would make sense. Actually, the references in the Wikipedia article go like... Most of them are from the 2000s. The earliest one is 1999. And I suspect that hours, which started with gigabyte and gigabyte, of course, are much older than that. We have gigabit as a unit of storage as well. It's just never used. Right. Gigabyte allows you to express much larger amounts of data without having to go, is it a PETA? Is it a TERA? What's after TERA? Which is why Wikipedia had to use it because it's cubed. I think that may be part of the thing that's confusing to you. Like 15.4 gigabytes is not equivalent to 15.4 gigabytes. It's a cubed amount of bytes, which is ridiculously large. Well, all right. So what's for certain is that the French gigabit and the English gigabit are actually two different amounts of data because French gigabit... I don't think they are two different definitions. They're just two different usages. We just don't use it for storage here. No, I'm pretty sure that the French gigabit is binary. It's a unit of information equal to 1 billion or 2 to the 30th bit, say gigabit. Is that right in French? No, no, no. That's my point. It's binary. So it has that extra... like kilobit is 1,024 bits, not 1,000 bits, whereas kilobyte is 1,000 bits. Yeah, but a byte and a bit are different, right? A byte is 8 bits. Right. But okay, all right. Now I'm confused and tired and I need to sleep. But it seems to me that maybe I'm confused and the French and English are actually the same. I think it's a usage thing where the French are using gigabit, maybe, where in English, you just don't use it for that. You only use it for throughput. Maybe, yeah. It's still binary. It's that gigabyte is saying 1,024 bits. Kiba, meba and gigba are equivalent to 1024, 1024 squared and 1024 cubed. That's the one thing I'm pretty sure of, is that when you're talking gigba, it's 1024 cubed, not 1024 times 10. You know what I mean? Right, right, yeah. So maybe, yeah, maybe it's actually the same and the thing I was seeing as different are just not even usages. Maybe I got confused by the gods of bits and bytes that were playing tricks on me. It's very possible. All right, I'll get out of your hair and let you find titles and all that good stuff. And I will not talk to you next week. Actually, we'll miss you. I'm away next week, but we have to. Yes, absolutely. All right. Have a lovely day. Bye, Patrick. Good night. Fun week. Okay, titles. D is for delivery drones. I like that. There's also 5G. Ooh, what you're going to do with all that junk Amazon lease in your trunk? You always love the longest titles. I like 5G. 5G. That's funny. All right, let's do that. Yeah. All right, GDI title Meet Me in America. Love it. I love that. And I love that people have started submitting GDI titles with their own call out. Somebody emailed us like, hey, how come GDI gets the second class title? It's always the title that you don't like as much as the first title. I'm like, I don't think that's really what we mean. It's just another one. Yeah, it's just the second one we picked. It also often is something that we're like, yeah, that was a great conversation, but it wasn't in the show show. Right, right. So, you know, we'd call it something else. I mean, it did start with Roger going, okay, now give me a second one as we got used to it. Right. But as Drumwald suggested. It's not a second class title. It is, they are equal in class. Just on different shows. Correct. And sometimes we could go back to using the same one for both if it's just that good. That's how when you tell it's reached a new level. Uh, how do we feel about Sriracha on this panel? Like over it. I had my dalliance with Sriracha and I don't dislike it, but I'm not excited about it anymore. No, I actually find it too sweet. I have never been, I mean, I've used it since I was a kid. So it's never been like, ooh, a thing. Sure. But I will say as I've gotten older, I've, I've liked spicy food more and more. And I think that's just because my taste buds are going dead. Well, but you say spicy, but Sriracha, not so much. Sriracha isn't that spicy to me. Well, I mean, it's spicy, but there's a sweetness. Here's the reason that I ask is because, uh, at a, uh, a deli that's near me, they've got. Ramald wrote, I don't like it in my eyes and I totally. I probably wouldn't either. I haven't tried that yet, but I'm going to go ahead and guess. No, I've always found Sriracha to be just, I don't know. I don't, I don't know why people go crazy about it. It's like, I'd rather just put Cholula on everything. Um, you know, if I, if I have the choice, but there is a Sriracha kale salad at a deli near me that has a lot of other stuff in it too. But it is, and you know, people kind of like roll the rise of kale on everything, but I know it's good for me. And so I want to have as much kale as possible, you know, without, you know, not enjoying it. And it is the best thing I have had in a while. I mean, I would eat this every day. So I'm like, all right, Sriracha, you are back. I'm intrigued because I'll be honest. The Sriracha thing, I was like, yeah, it's all right. And then I had Sriracha popcorn and I kind of loved that for a while, but then I got over it. So maybe this would reignite. And it's not, it's Sriracha. Yeah. And the salad is not particularly spicy or Sriracha heavy, but it's definitely in there. You know, it, you know, gives it a little bit of a bite. And Sriracha needs to be used as an ingredient, not a flavor. Right. Right. Like use it as a part of a larger flavor profile. Yeah. Flavor profile. I never heard that word until I had the food channel. Well, I'm telling you, this is good salad. I love salads. The problem is that within an hour I'm hungry again. Well, you do that with, you know, we were talking about our sides earlier. It's like, yeah, like I'm not eating the Sriracha salad for dinner, but I'm having it alongside a little, you know, maybe a little chicken. That could be an indication you're eating too much. Being hungry. If you're really. Yeah. I mean, if you're always eat a large meal and then you go down to smaller meals, you'll feel hungry even though you don't need to be. And it takes a while to get used to eating smaller meals. Well, although I will say, so the other night I was like, I just want sushi. I'm just going to like I'm going to order some like delivery sushi and I ordered a lot. Like even for me, I was like, this is crazy. I will like probably not get through it. I got through it. And in the morning I was starving and I had eaten like quite a bit of fish and rice. You know, it's like, why, why is that? I don't know. That was your problem. Well, carbs burn through you. But I mean, but the fish was, you know, you figure it's like. Fish isn't as fatty and the meat isn't as dense as in like a cow. So. But even some of it was sashimi. I wasn't really eating that much rice. I was going to say, like you, you should be able to eat that and not feel hungry. Oh, I mean, I woke up starving. Yeah. That's so weird. Maybe you dreamt you were running. Maybe I burned some calories. Yes, that would be great. We can just dream our exercises from now on. Usually after four hours, your body is done digesting whatever you eat, unless it's something really heavy. Because I was, it was, who told me that someone at Tech TV told me, it's like, yeah, every four or five hours, your body is done digesting whatever you're eating. CBS has suspended its CEO search and extended acting CEO, Jeff Ainello, through December. That is significant. Why? Because CBS and Viacom were rumored to be close to a merger and then Leslie Moonves got ousted. And that all kind of just evaporated because they had to deal with the fallout for Moonves getting ousted for sexual harassment charges. So everybody thought, okay, they're going to get back to a CEO. So now if they're suspending the CEO search, it could mean they're deciding to start that merger process again. And if you're like, why do I care? Because then Viacom and CBS would be a bigger competitor to Disney, Netflix, Sony, etc., in this whole streaming content business. And CBS and Viacom used to be a company, but National Amusements, which owns both of them, decided to separate them because they thought that would make them more agile. And Paramount is very movie industry heavy and CBS is very television industry heavy. CBS also has a lot more interactive stuff because it bought CNET and a few other companies. Whereas Viacom doesn't have a lot of interactive stuff and just bought Pluto though. So I could see merging all of that together would make them more competitive. So not yet another streaming service to pay for. By the way, who said you had to pay for every streaming service that comes out? We really got to get over this idea that every time there's a streaming service, you have to pay for it. Everyone's like, you know, this is really adding up. It's like, well, then don't get it. Pick your poison. But I have to watch everything. No, you don't. You never did. You never watched everything anyway. Right. That was a whole point of cable. It's going to come on the good day internet and I can't talk about anything you guys are talking about because I haven't seen it. That's because you don't watch anything, Roger. That's a whole different situation. Every time I'm like, hey, who's watching this show, everyone's like, let me, well, Tom sometimes does. Roger and whoever that was. Yeah. Our viewing habits don't overlap a lot anyway. You just, Roger, you just don't have time to watch hardly anything. Tell me what TV shows you watch regularly. Like regular, outside of the CW stuff. I would have to say The Good Place and That's About It. Which isn't even on right now. Yeah, exactly. But good show. Really good show. So there you go. You can watch a lot. I'm telling you, Killing Eve. You might like it. I watch the bits of, I will watch Good Omens, I think, when it comes out on Prime because I have Amazon Prime, but just because it's already there. Yeah. Right. I think when you get used to that idea of like, you know what, I'm not going to watch that because it's on a service that I don't want to get. I'll just watch something that's on the service I have. Oh, SNL. That's the other thing I watch it with any regularity. You watch on Hulu? I watch on Hulu, usually. Or I watch when it's live because it's at 8.30 now. What else do we watch? I don't know, video people. You may never find out. Sorry, because we're ending the video now. But audio folks, stick around. We might talk more about it or we might not. Might talk about Pickle. I don't know.