 Why do you think your own it's doesn't exist like that for most people who read it. You said it's a whole way of living and like and reading ran sometimes. She referred to it like when she was writing it that she was writing business and economic issues in human terms. That was what interested her. She was like I'm excited that I can it's it's while she was writing and she said I'm able to do it. She wasn't sure like how to do it. But I think the way most particularly business men and maybe Silicon Valley people do it is like purely in economic and business. I agree. I agree. I don't know. I mean I wish I knew. I know you're going to extrapolate away your experience which is hard. Yeah, but it's a it's a it's a big question. Why does so many people respond differently to Adlerstruck. So they're basically three responses right. You know it didn't do anything for me. I loved it but I but that's it or it changed my life right and I'm pursuing it as a way of living. Right and why particularly those last two why are they different. Why does so many very successful businessman read out the shrugged and inspires them to be better businessman and everything. But it never really goes beyond that it never becomes a governing philosophy of their life. And why does some of us read it and go this is how I want to live my life this is a this is going to be a governing philosophy for me now. And there's something about the psychology of when you read it. It's something about when you read where you are in life. Right. Something about the kind of mind you have and how philosophical or how interested it is in questions like that. There's got to be a self esteem issue there of what your self esteem is when you read the book and whether you see it as an attack on you whether you see it as a as pro but I really don't know it'd be interesting because John Allison. Is that an emotional repression or sure. It could be it could be an issue of emotional repression. That's a good life. It's an emotional repression you on how much you connect emotionally to it. So I think it's a lot of different things going on. When you read the book and why it has the impact on, but for example John Allison read out the shrug. And I think the phone had, and was inspired and loved it and, and, and really helped him become a better businessman and everything. But he didn't take it seriously as a philosophy. He read Opa many years later. Right. And then he got it as a philosophy, but I don't, I don't know that anybody else would have had gone in that sequence right. So it really is and if he'd read Opa 20 years earlier would have had an impact on him. Right. So it's, it's, it's so individual dependent on the state of mind your psychology. And then your, your, the degree to which you're intellectually active and look, coming out of business school, what he wanted to do is to be a businessman. That was his focus. That's all you cared about. And it could be that the philosophical philosophical didn't see the relevance wasn't important, good living good life. And then later, after having this life experience and being challenged by all kinds of things and seeing the philosophical connections philosophy clicks right so it could be the different things click for you and different points in your life. And that is the end of for a while. And a feature that that helps. Okay, Richard. Yeah, we'll get to you next. Nick. Yeah, I wanted to touch on self esteem in relation to self acceptance and self assertiveness like self esteem is something we, as you said, is something we experience, as opposed to self acceptance and self assertiveness is something we do. We understand self acceptance is not to be in an adverse in an adversarial relationship with yourself and self assertiveness is taken at a step further in terms of advocating more for yourself in terms of in relation to self esteem. So again, this is the difference between the value and the virtues so these these are these are from the six pillars. These are two of the six pillars from Brandon. These are in a sense virtues that he's saying lead you to self esteem. And I'd say his self acceptance I think is a little wishy washy. I would take I would replace self acceptance with self knowledge, which I think you need for self acceptance anyway but I think the important thing is to know yourself to know who you are to know your weaknesses to know your strengths to know what you're good at what you're not to know where you've evaded to know where you've done bad things to know you've done good things so that you can now engage in the thinking the work to get yourself to be better. Right, so this is where pride comes in. I want to be better pride is the virtue that tells you be better right strive for, you know, more perfection keep keep pushing keep pushing yourself. But to do that you have to know you have to know yourself how rational am I, how rationally do I behave. Do I sometimes go by my emotion does sometimes not pretend my emotions the tools of cognition does sometimes pretend that. And if I do, how do I stop doing that so again, I view that as self knowledge and then you have to take the actions that pride guides you to fix them and that's, you know a lot of that is under integrity. I have to write the code of values that I've determined for myself. And, and, and here they, you know, you have to have the right code of values so let's assume here the, the, the right kind of virtues that the objectives which is self assertiveness is. I mean, again, I think he puts all these at the same level I'm not sure they are all the same level, but I take self assertiveness as. I take self assertiveness as an aspect of integrity. Don't just believe it don't just hold it, do something about it. Right. I, in my Iran's rules for life. I talk about, don't be passive action, you know, be active active thinker and active doer, but an active fixer, an active fixer opera right fix your consciousness fix your mistakes fix your, fix your soul. So, you know, just in case Alex asked is similar to to what I mean by spiritual right fix the way if you if you find yourself and I'm not always independent sometimes I do with my family thinks I should do will fix it. Stop it. You know, next time you attempt it to do what your family tells you, stop yourself that's what self assertiveness means, but it really is just an aspect of integrity. Right, it just means, live by the values you claim and the values you claim to hold. Yeah, I'm currently in law school and you talk a lot about how career is the, you know, probably the primary thing that you do. So obviously one of the major sources of your self esteem and your pride. My question is, you know, I've worked pretty hard in school, but I haven't had much opportunity to actually gain work experience and just if you could share a little bit on how young people can sort of in the context of an education that I've personally been told I'll prepare you for actual practice. So, um, I don't know if you can relate to that at all with your PhD, but how, how would you go about gaining those sorts of values in the context of an education like that. Well, while you're a student, that's your career. While you're a student, that's your productive activity. And that's how you need to view it. So be a good one. Be a good students. Now that again, that doesn't mean you have to be good at everything. It doesn't mean that you should, for example, get really work hard at subjects you don't really care that much about. But think about it. That is, if you're not good at something, why am I not good at it? How could I become better? Do I want to become better? Is there rational reason to become better? You know, go through the motions just like you would at the job. What, you know, why am I good at this? Why am I not good at that? Why am I motivated here? Why am I not motivated there? Use it as an opportunity for self knowledge. Use it as an opportunity for figuring out that you can do it. I can do it when I apply myself. And again, the woodiness is, as you work to integrate your emotions with your values better, then when you succeed, in a sense, pat yourself in the back that is recognize that allow yourself to feel the positive emotion that comes from success. You know, again, if you have Debbie's upbringing, right, you're taught, don't feel good about your success. You know, don't let yourself feel those positive emotions. Repress them, suppress them, put them aside and we're so, you know, Christianity is an unbelievably repressive ideology. It's all about repressing emotion. And that's incredibly damaging because then how do you gain that sense of self-worth that self-esteem is about? Because you never feel it. Somebody asked me in the, in the, in the super chat yesterday or the before yesterday, exactly about this. He said, what about when I achieve things and nothing happens, right? I don't feel anything. I achieve it. I'm supposed to feel good, but nothing happens. Well, that's not good. You need to, you need to, you need to fix it. And that requires, maybe it requires the psychologist, maybe it requires a lot of introspection, but it definitely requires getting rid of whatever it is that we're pressing that natural positive emotion. Evolution would not, it doesn't make any sense for human beings not to be rewarded spiritually for achieving something, right? Your survival depends on achievement. Your success as a human being depends on achievement. So we are built in order to, we're built in a way that we get rewarded for it. We get rewards for it and something's wrong when the reward doesn't come. And, and assuming it's not something biologically wrong, then it's something psychologically wrong and it needs to be fixed. Or if you expect the reward to come from somebody else. Yeah. Or something irrational, like where's the goal was irrational. Yes, it goes back and handedness. If you expect the reward to come from, from outside of you and rewards don't come from outside of you. Self esteem doesn't come from outside of you. Your self worth doesn't come from outside of you. None of that comes out. It has to come from you. Now again, when you're a child, some of the, the, the signals come out from outside of you. And you learn from how other people respond. And this is why parents can really screw up their children, right? Because if you're slapped around every time you feel joy, then it's going to be hard to feel joy because you're associated with pain, right? So it's, it's, you can, it's much easier to screw up your kids than to get them right. You're wrong. Don't you think practically the bigger problem today is overpraising with children?