 schedule by now some three weeks I think so okay kind of yeah yeah you'll get into the rhythm yeah so the important thing is to show up right because initially when you start off it's it's exciting everything is new but after that we have to plug more into the consistency mode right so you just show up and you just you know be there and you know that you would be able to yeah you know still go through with with the course go through with the subjects okay so yeah so get into that consistency mode don't don't give up and want to see all of you complete the course want to see all of you attend every class right complete all the assignments so if I may say so push yourself a little bit okay and I'm sure it it'll it'll be good okay so Jafina says it's great okay but she would really prefer offline okay let's see when things get better then offline will start so it's just a matter of time we'll let you know okay when Siddhkanu says he's waiting for the campus to open up can Rosalind is saying a little bit tough yeah so frankly Rosalind it can be a little tough but you have to press through it you know that's the only way forward so commit yourself to this study set the time aside and do your part I'm sure God will strengthen you and help you to complete it okay so that's what I look forward for all of you to complete the course and do it well alright so let's pray and get started someone anyone maybe somebody who has not prayed in this class before could you please lead in prayer please yes please go ahead Master and gracious Lord you want to thank you for this moment of the day I want to bless you and honor your holy name but we are committing ourselves into your mighty hands once again oh Lord that you pray that the good counsel and your good teaching in this our studies we pray you commit our pastor into your holy care that we pray that you continue to nourish her and flourish her transfer the chances that you should make for greater understanding of this course in the mighty name of Jesus for that we pray for the other students who have not been able to join us that Lord your praise continue to sustain them and you will continue to sustain us also to ask this course so that you bring it as a successful amen amen yes thank you thank you Elisha for leading us in that word of prayer we will pick up from where we left in the last class so far we have talked about some of the basics of prayer we've talked about the kind of attitude we must have you know the foundations that we need you know faith being one of the essentials and the last class we touched upon believing prayer where when we pray through something because it's God's will and we pray with great desire we can actually you know see those those things happen in our life can receive the answer to our asking now we will continue further so we are basically you know building on prayer our understanding of prayer how to pray how to develop our own personal prayer life so the intention is not to just look at scriptures and say hey this is what the Bible says but as we go along it'll be great if you know we can incorporate these things into our own prayer life so I encourage you to do that you know set time aside reflect on what what you have learned and see how you know in your own personal prayer time you can make some changes or actually improvements and see reap greater benefit from what is being taught so today we will look at a pattern for time in personal prayer now we may set aside whatever amount of time here on a daily basis let's say we set aside an hour in prayer so what do we do what do we pray in that one hour of prayer there is a recommended pattern and this pattern is based on the Lord's prayer which Jesus himself taught his disciples when they said okay Jesus you teach us how to pray he said in this manner you pray okay our Father who art in heaven hallowed be thy name thy kingdom come that will be done so Jesus taught them how to pray so on the basis of this pattern we will discuss you know what what and all we can incorporate into that what let's say half an hour if you've set aside or one hour you set aside or even if you set aside five hours to pray you know what what are the topics to touch on in the prayer time now this pattern is from what the Lord Jesus taught and if you study and you listen to sermons of you know several pastors you might find that they are recommending other patterns as well so now there's nothing wrong with it as long as you're in the presence of the Lord and you're drawing closer to God you're spending time with God it's all beneficial but this particular pattern okay is what Jesus taught and that is why you know we go with this pattern and we recommend it now again it's not like a hard and fast rule that you know in one hour okay ten minutes I have to say this ten minutes I have to say that it's not like that it's meant to direct you it's meant to sort of guide you okay and be led by the Holy Spirit don't get how do I say like boxed into a very rigid pattern that's not the intention this is just meant to help us cover all the aspects that concern us and you know we prayed through in our prayer time so according to this pattern that Jesus taught us now you all know probably know the the Lord's prayer by heart I will just read it for us once it says Jesus said Matthew chapter 6 verses 9 to 13 in this manner therefore pray our Father in heaven hallowed be your name your kingdom come your will be done on earth as it is in heaven give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors and do not lead us into temptation but deliver us from the evil one for yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever amen okay so that is the pattern of prayer here now when Jesus taught us this prayer he didn't intend for us to just say it as words and not mean it from our hearts because don't you think that happens even when I learned this prayer I would just say it like okay I'm going to sleep now and I don't have too much time I just quickly say our Father who are never hallowed be that name that kingdom but is that how Jesus wanted us to pray this prayer what do you think to just know it by heart and just rattle it off yeah you can share your thoughts no okay Divya says no that's that's not how Jesus wanted us to use it but I am personally guilty of doing that and I know of you know systems and places where that is the norm you just take that prayer you just say it because that's the prayer Jesus taught us to pray right like repetition without understanding without depth to what Jesus taught us to do so obviously we've already looked at what prayer is it's communication and we don't communicate like that right that is a level of understanding so when we use this pattern of prayer that Jesus taught us to pray we must understand every aspect of what he's trying to say and we may not necessarily pray it in those words but we flow along you know that that that thought okay so we will look at each thought in the in the Lord's prayer and we'll see what it means how we can apply it when we are speaking to God so we start off with the very first part here which says our father who art in heaven okay hallowed be your name so till the time that Jesus started teaching preaching about the kingdom of God I don't think the people had heard anyone call God as father because in the Jewish culture yes Jehovah God Lord you know King so they had this concept of God as a great ruler but the concept as of God being a father that was something very new that Jesus began to share and that's how Jesus walked with the father as well and we know in the Gospels there were times when he got accused people were like what are you doing what are you saying how can you God how can you call God your father this is you know blasphemy and things like that so people accused him for relating to God in this manner but Jesus is teaching the people a new way to pray till that time they would have done it in a in a very you know how do I put it just like the Pharisees we know just just as a ritual right you have your in the Hebrew language you just say some scriptures and make your prayers and you probably had some patterns of prayer recommended by the rabbis they would just use those things but Jesus made it personal and he said when you're praying please know that it is personal and it is personal very much so because we are relating to God not as a king and master and Lord alone but relating to him as a father okay so that is something very very intimate so when you're relating to somebody as your father you you your heart is open you are willing to to share you're also willing to receive so that's how we would go into a time of prayer knowing that we are speaking to our heavenly Father okay so the whole attitude of prayer changes when you recognize that God is yes he's all those other descriptions but he is also our father okay and any father would want to give good gifts right what would want to bring blessings in his children's life any father would want to see their children do well so when we relate to God as a father or the way we pray we pray with boldness we pray with courage we pray with assurance we pray joyfully so our attitude changes so begin praying by acknowledging God as our heavenly Father okay and it says hallowed be your name okay hallowed is a manner of magnifying the name of God it is a manner of glorifying the name of God and earlier when we talked about prayers of thanksgiving prayers of you adoration worship we said we can take time to do that in our prayer time so we may want to begin by thanking the Lord adoring the Lord so on and so forth so that's what Jesus also is teaching here he's saying look relate to God as a father and the next thing you do is you spend some time worshipping and honoring God okay for who he is so we would exalt him we would lift up his name right we would worship him we would just recognize him for for all that he is to us and that's how we enter into our time of prayer so when I'm saying use this as a pattern of prayer basically I'm saying that let's say we have we have decided that we are going to pray for one hour we might say okay the first 10 minutes I am only going to praise and thank God so you get into that so as as the Spirit leads as you feel you know in your heart you just be honest be genuine and just thank the Lord worship Lord I praise you I give you thanks and just go on right for some time doing the adoration and worship so we are incorporating that first you know first section of our prayer pattern and then you can move on then Jesus said okay pray like this I continue to pray like you say your kingdom come you will be done on earth as it is in heaven okay so we can go into a time after adoring God acknowledging him as father we go into a time where we ask for God's kingdom to come okay now when you say let your kingdom come basically it means God your rule your dominion your authority let your will be done let your purposes be accomplished you know you lead the way so basically you're kind of giving charge to God and you're giving charge to the way he wants to lead so when we study little more about the kingdom of God so many things we understand we understand that you know in the kingdom of God the scriptures tell us righteousness peace and joy that's the kingdom of God in the kingdom of God you know we see the authority of Christ when Jesus cast out demon spirits he said the kingdom has come upon you so the kingdom is not just in word but is in power right so things like that so the kingdom of God has so many there's so many things to learn about the kingdom of God but we are saying God whatever your kingdom is you know it's a just kingdom it reveals your righteousness and greatness you are the king of your kingdom right so I want my life to be like your kingdom full of righteousness full of joy full of peace full of the power of God full of the authority of God okay a full of the wisdom of God the understanding of God the knowledge of God so everything that the kingdom is you're asking that let it be done in my life Lord now obviously we know that heaven has the rule reign and authority of Christ established in such a way that there is there is no interference there's no sin in heaven there's no interference by Satan and demons in heaven so uninterrupted right as it is in heaven let it be here on the earth Lord so your kingdom let your kingdom come and your will be done so your purpose is Lord you're praying through the purposes of God and you're saying God the way it is in heaven unhindered perfect right it is ruling thriving I want to see that happen also in my life now when we ask for the kingdom of God to come no we could spend some time praying for the kingdom to come in every aspect of our life so I may want to say something like God in my will right things the decisions that I'm making I want your kingdom to come Lord let it be your will let it be done Lord let me make those decisions in accordance to what you want so I might say God in my spiritual life Lord I pray let your kingdom come okay fill me with your love fill me with your peace fill me with your joy so you pray for some time in that manner let your rule your authority your dominion oh God let it let it come in my personal spiritual life God I let it come in my walk with you oh God right and you declare that you declare that word over your own life and trust that in your spiritual life in your personal walk with the Lord you will experience the working of the kingdom okay you will walk with power and you will walk with every other aspect of the kingdom of God now I told you there are many aspects right so now if I finished spending some time worshipping the Lord and exalting him now I'm spending time praying that the kingdom of God would come I could also carry on by praying the kingdom of God on various aspects of my life now I might say okay God in my family let your kingdom come now for all you know in the family there might be a lot of confusion there might be a lot of you know strife there might be anger and fighting and things like that but in your prayer time you're saying Lord let your kingdom come again God's kingdom it's a kingdom of peace Shalom it's a kingdom of you know the authority of Christ so every demonic work every spirit of strife confusion all that you bind in Jesus name let your kingdom come Lord in my family now you might want to keep extending that to other other things that concern you so those who are married could pray for the kingdom to come in your spouse's life right so you say Lord let it be established let your rule your reign your dominion your power your glory be seen in my spouse's life Lord I pray that that God you would you know establish it and you declare you declare that word over your your husband or your wife's life and then you can carry on you could pray that for your children you could pray that for you know your health Lord let your kingdom come when you're saying the kingdom obviously in heaven there's no sickness right so when you're saying let your kingdom come you're speaking you're declaring divine health you're declaring that over yourself so you might take some time to just pray for the kingdom to come in your health you might take time to pray for the kingdom to come in finances right in our finances Lord is there any lack in heaven no there's no lack in heaven right it's it's filled with God's glory and everything is generous it's it's abundant so it's an abundance that we are seeking so we speak that we declare that over our own lives and we say Lord let your kingdom come in my finances your rule your reign your dominion if there's any lack Lord we speak that you know it would change into the abundance of God so every area so you might take some time just covering you know different things work life a few things are listed in our notes here and I'm mentioning those work life ministry we may want to say Lord let your kingdom come in our local church let it come in our city it come in our nation okay so you notice how by now if you have actually taken time to pray for all this you know mindfully I don't know about you but I think one hour will be over yes or no yes ma'am yeah right so because sometimes when we pray like I used to also think oh how people are praying for one hour two hours what is there to pray for so long isn't it but Jesus taught us to pray why don't you pray regarding these matters okay so we can take it as a pattern we can go by each of those those instructions and then cover many aspects of our life okay so I mean I'm just telling you you could you could just spend even five minutes praying on this particular aspect but it's up to you so I'm just trying to tell you that when we use a pattern then it's kind of easier for our mind to be focused and then we know okay fine we are just going to cover different aspects about God's rule and reign in our lives so once you're through with it then you move on to the next point in the Lord's prayer so the next point there would be Jesus said okay give us this day our daily bread now for some of us you know we might be too spiritual to ask God for any human natural earthly things okay and some of us might even think that it's ungodly or unholy for us to ask I mean how could you ask God for for the things that you need but we know then we are praying to God and we're saying our you know our Father in heaven he is the one who provides for our needs okay so we can bring our natural needs to him and that's what Jesus was saying when he said pray give us this day our daily bread now daily bread represents our needs so our needs could be in the area of finances our needs could be you know in the area of provision of some sort our need could be you know something else we need some favor God's favor upon our lives to to move forward we need some idea from God so in different ways whatever natural thing Lord I need this I need this breakthrough I need this provision you know you can actually go to God and ask for all those things okay so God doesn't tell us to bypass our needs because ultimately we have to look to him right he was the one who provided for for the children of Israel so while they were journeying through the wilderness for 40 years you notice there that he provided he provided manna he provided quail you know the water which they wanted was provided for them so our God is a provider so my basic needs my daily needs I don't have to hesitate to ask God for what I need so I can spend some time every day because our needs keep changing isn't it as the seasons change in our lives our needs also will change so in that season what is it that you need and remember we talked a lot about this in the believing prayer so you can believe and you can pray and ask God and God will answer it to you okay so thank you Sid Kenu is sharing a scripture here he says if you ask anything in my name it shall be provided for you so yes God promises the provision and he encourages us to pray in the name of Jesus so we can ask God for our daily needs now in this time you may also want to acknowledge the needs of others right some loved ones friends and you say okay God so and so is in need of this right whatever they need a vehicle for the ministry or maybe we are praying for our church and we're saying Lord we really need a place to meet so bring our natural needs to the Lord and he is faithful to answer that so we spend some time praying for our needs and notice it says daily right daily bread so every day we need that fresh provision of God and God provides now moving forward we can also pray for God's forgiveness okay but there is a connection to forgiving others so the way Jesus taught this to us is he said forgive us our sins or forgive us our debts as we forgive those who have sinned against us or those you know who are debtors to us as we forgive so there is a prerequisite what is that prerequisite when we walk in forgiveness then when we pray for forgiveness God is able to respond okay but if we don't walk in forgiveness and we want God to forgive us it doesn't work that way okay and it's very clear in in what Jesus himself taught so he said look you keep your relationships in order don't walk in anger bitterness hatred jealousy envy division you know deception lies so many works of the flesh that we as believers also can have in our hearts remember we said in the foundations for prayer that right heart attitude is required so once our heart attitude is right towards people in our lives then it's easy for us to approach God for our own forgiveness okay so that's what so we we do our part we set things right to whatever extent we can and then when we come to the Lord in prayer Holy Spirit we know one of the functions or roles of the Holy Spirit is convicting the believer so Holy Spirit will convict us of righteousness of sin righteousness and judgment so when Holy Spirit is speaking to me and saying hey this has to be corrected in your life I respond to it and when I respond to it right I act on it then it's easy for me to say okay God no the way I have forgiven that person for you please forgive me so we must respond to the Holy Spirit okay have our hearts clear do our part and then when we seek God to forgive us we will receive his forgiveness and we can walk with a clear conscience before God and we said that right we said that when we have a clear conscience when our heart does not condemn us we saw that then our prayers are effective our prayers are answered God also here's our prayer so that is the next part that you can cover in prayer now then what what else can we pray for in our in our pattern the next verse here verse 13 says and do not lead us into temptation but deliver us from the evil ones so basically we are praying for God's leading we are praying for God to guard us protect us right why because you know there's there's temptation out there in the world maybe there are some specific areas in which we ourselves struggle okay so we just say okay God you know in those areas where the enemy can actually uh excuse me have a chance to get me uh I pray a lot that you know I will not stumble in those areas right so we we go ahead and pray into those things okay we could also uh you know make declarations we can uh cancel whatever the enemy may be plotting against us we pray prayers like okay we come against the schemes of the evil one we come against his plots we cancel them in the name of Jesus so that we don't have to go through you know unnecessary uh struggles right uh getting into temptation so this is more like praying for God to protect us and keep us on the right track keep us walking in the path of righteousness and that's what the Bible says you know God does not tempt us he leads us in the paths of righteousness for his namesake and we continue to ask God for that and we say God you know uh uh you know lead us not in temptation but deliver us from the evil one so when we pray this prayer we're asking God to help us guard our thoughts help us guard our emotions help us guard our actions right our decisions so many things so you are inviting the Lord to work on everything uh so you keep aligned to the right path in God so we could take some time to pray for this now you might recognize even as a family there might be some weak areas uh for for everyone so we just pray and say okay Lord you know we are struggling in this particular uh area which is a temptation for my household we pray that you will cover us protect us grant us your wisdom lead us so on and so forth so you take some time to pray that you would uh be delivered from the schemes of the evil one uh now continuing further uh we we are told to pray yours is the kingdom the power the glory forever amen okay so it is a prayer which starts with the adoration of God and it ends also with the exaltation of God so we continue to recognize that oh God you are Lord you are king you are master so we give you thanks we give you praise uh and you spend some time exalting the Lord and by now you know as you've been praying uh you might also receive in your spirit that confirmation about a couple of things that you prayed and you know that hey okay God has already answered my prayer I know by faith that I've already received it so we may want to spend some time and say oh God thank you so much you know you have already heard my prayer now you are faithful and uh I know that you know you are going to lead me in in a triumphant victory in in Jesus name and things like that so you close off also with thanksgiving with exaltation and worship so in this manner you know we can use the pattern that Jesus gave us in the Lord's prayer and uh we can pray uh you know every day we we could do this uh now the length of the time that's you know totally up to you we'll come back to that aspect later on where we talk about you know how do you how do you engage in daily prayer how should it be you know more specifics on that we will look at but this is like a general pattern that uh we we wanted to discuss uh at this point so as you're hearing this are there any any comments or questions on the pattern that one can use in their personal prayer uh testimony I just yes yes we are yeah um so while we are talking about this pattern of prayer uh we see that yeah uh we are trying to uh you know it is I felt it's uh it's a little general right if I want to yeah specifically uh so yeah how do I you know um make it specific that's what I wanted so uh see it's like a template okay the way you would get a uh uh let's say a power point you want to make a power point you have some sites you go there they'll give you a template in that first slide will be introduction second slide will be uh you know uh the content body conclusion so we're just using a template but we personalize it so based on my problem I will include an introduction there I will include the body I will include the conclusion so it'll be different for each one of us Divya so now for example if you take up the pattern okay uh so since you said more specific so it'll apply to you know my personal life so today maybe I am experiencing some uh like I maybe this week I've had some health issue so as I'm praying I begin by saying you know thank you lord thank you uh heavenly father thank you for your presence in my life I thank you for your healing power I thank you for sustaining me through through the weakness or I thank you for providing uh you know help through family through friends thank you for the encouragement which I have received thank you for the medical help so you see it's it's specific right so I'm just going into this pattern in a personal way so then I might just want to continue on from there and uh I might you know I I'll take that kingdom thy kingdom come thy will be done so I I would take some time to pray personally for myself and say okay lord I pray that uh in my health lord let your kingdom come uh I speak and declare complete wholeness uh in the name of Jesus lord I speak health I speak strength um in my in my physical body I speak health and strength in my soul oh god then you know I I might want to cover a lot thank you for my work opportunities I I I continue to speak that I will I will fulfill everything that you have called me to do in my ministry so what am I doing I I'm kind of putting all my concerns and things that are relevant to me into that second category where I'm asking for the kingdom of god to come so uh point is the specifics depend on each individual and it depends on every day but template is the same does it does it answer your question Divya yes yes yes yeah yeah thank you sure sure thank you uh okay so Rosalind uh Rosalind says what about confessing word of God in prayer can the word of God be a part of our prayer like saying out loud few scriptures like affirmations can these also be considered in our prayer pattern or should I do these after my prayer no you can include it Rosalind see for example if you say the lord is my shepherd I shall not want he make it me to lie down in green pastures he leadeth me beside the still waters you may want to say this as an adoration isn't it you may want to say this as an affirmation okay great is our God uh the voice of the Lord thunders it is love whatever louder than the mighty waters you're acknowledging the greatness and the goodness of God so it could be a part of this pattern uh then again as I began I told us that this is not a rigid uh thing right maybe one one day you're sitting in prayer every day this is helpful if you want to use it every day also we can use it no problem but maybe one day we are sitting for prayer and uh Holy Spirit is only leading us to pray for healing okay so be open to the leading of the Holy Spirit don't get stuck up so maybe one day you sit for prayer and God just wants you to make confessions declarations from scripture go ahead be led by the Holy Spirit right so if you're strongly sensing the leading of the Holy Spirit go in that direction but otherwise in general this pattern is a good pattern to follow and the Lord Jesus taught us this pattern so you know we we can use it and the we are saying is the order followed in the pattern of the Lord's prayer not necessarily um but you know we like the uh at least I like the part where God is God is the center of it all like you begin with God and you close off with a worshipping God and in between come all your needs and all your wants so I kind of like the style in which it is already set okay but yeah if you go little uh off the uh sequence I don't think God will be upset about that yeah so good uh you know some nice questions here uh how about the others anything that you are thinking anyone here you use a pattern for your prayer time or yeah not a pattern of this sort but okay with it this kind of similar like I would worship and thank God yeah so that you know even my perspective will be towards God yeah and uh yeah then come to the request and pray about them yeah and mostly conclude with like as if I have received you know okay nice nice thank you thank you Divya for sharing your you know your your general pattern uh how about the others do you use a pattern anyone else here okay is Elitoli not really uh she says spontaneous okay as the spirit leads for prayer okay fine Elitoli yeah yes anyone else no pattern man okay Rosalind also just you know going by the the thanks for your adoration okay worshiping God yeah yeah yeah just praying the spirit right right so uh yeah I think a lot of us we don't really have a pattern uh but then others we follow now the Lord's prayer is is what Jesus taught us it's a very good pattern to to follow on a daily basis but I have also heard of acts okay uh yeah once second so acts I think some of you would have heard that this is basically adoration confession thanksgiving supplication so some people follow this pattern I have heard about tabernacle tabernacle prayer okay so tabernacle prayer is also similar to acts uh where where you know it's it's like outer court inner court holy of holies so uh people say in the outer court it's more of confession because you come there and sacrifices were made for cleansing so a lot of cleansing happens and then you know you draw you come into the inner court and in the inner court there is communion there is revelation so you know you you kind of pray you ask for your needs you ask for your needs to be met and all that and then as you keep going deeper into the presence of God uh you just worship the Lord in the holy of holies it's all about you know God taking over so there's a tabernacle pattern of prayers that some people recommend so there are different patterns that people follow these are only meant to be a guide okay it's not like a strict rule okay so there's some disturbance yeah so right uh so these are the other patterns jeffina you want to share you said do you have a pattern yes um I have a pattern where I shed you hold the prayers like what we need to pray for today and what I need to pray for the next day so that uh I make it for a week so that I don't forget to pray for everything in this life and I for a week when the Monday starts I write down the things which are which I need to focus more like if someone is sick I need to pray for them regularly so I make that and I mark how many times I have prayed for that just to make me uh you know to continue the prayer life in a better way not forget it and that's why I do that yeah yeah sure sure jeffina yes thank you for sharing that so um she schedules her prayers um so for today you know I just want to leave us with this uh pattern and it's a great pattern to follow in our everyday prayer life and it just helps us to cover most of the normal regular needs that you and I have uh and uh you know it's it's easy like you you will not miss out on the main things okay and the length of time again it's up to each of us how long do you want to spend time worshiping the Lord before you bring your supplication it's it's up to every individual okay okay uh so lubega is asking uh any more light with acts so acts is uh uh you know each of these letters they stand for for the words that I mentioned to you so a is adoration then c is confession t is thanksgiving and s is supplication yeah lubega so that's how that's how some people like to uh spend time praying i hope it answers your question okay great great yes thank you thank you yeah so any more any more uh comments before we we uh wrap up okay so sitkenu is asking what is supplication see supplication uh we all we talked about it no sitkenu when we said that there are different kinds of prayers one of the prayers is supplication where you ask you earnestly ask God to do something so it's it's a prayer of asking okay uh so that's what it is because act in act you're not asking God for anything but s in supplication the way Jesus taught us to pray you know give us this day our daily bread or forgive assassins so you're asking God Lord I need this I honestly want this that's what um comes into that category okay yeah yeah so divya uh uh very honest comment there she says uh please pray for our students to learn these concepts and apply in our lives now sometimes it's hard to live these principles out okay yeah uh divya so uh as I told us this prayer and intercession course should not become um an informative course for all of us right so excuse me as we are learning new things um we want to apply it okay uh in our everyday lives so even something like praying in the pattern of the Lord's prayer that's not something I knew earlier but after I learned that yeah you can actually pray like this I incorporated it into my prayer life now it's not to say that I always use this pattern because sometimes as some of you commented there I am led by the spirit sometimes the emphasis is different in the prayer times each time um but more or less you know covering the aspects that Jesus taught us to pray okay so yes uh we must use it that's the whole point of the course uh yes Lubega you have you have a question please unmute yourself please go ahead yeah can I can I ask a question uh uh yes Isaac we you can ask a question I'm just waiting for Lubega in case he wanted to say something okay he has uh his hand is not raised anymore so please go ahead Isaac yeah on the method of prayer uh I see uh I see I mean the Catholic Church most of the time they pray through the Holy Mary and the saints to pray to the Lord for us and our pattern of prayer is like praying direct to our Father so how can we reconcile because like in the our setting we pray sort of pre-direct and in the Catholic Church they pray through Holy Mary yeah how can we reconcile this yes yes yes uh Isaac so see Isaac we will go by scripture uh we will go by uh you know what Jesus taught us to do and this is what Jesus taught us to do you pray to the Father in the name of Jesus and that's what he told us isn't it uh so we have basis to pray directly to God is there basis to pray to Mary is that the scriptural basis to pray to the saints there is no scriptural basis so does that answer your question yeah I think I believe in the direct prayer yeah we are some and daughters of God so we ask him direct like if you want to ask your Father you cannot go through another person to ask your Father for what you need correct yes you're right yeah sure sure thank you and we see today in the menteling are as Pastor also shared there was a question about those who die in the Lord and he he said you know as Paul stated when I am absent in the flesh I am present with the Lord okay so uh for us to assume that once uh saintly you know we may call them good person righteous person uh or a great person dies we we want to pray to them so they can supplicate to God on our behalf that won't happen because when they're absent in the body they are present with the Lord right they're just in God's presence now that and they're no longer engaged in ministry and they cannot because the Bible doesn't say that you know that there is any place where they can pray on our behalf or do something on our behalf they can't they're just with Jesus and they will return when he comes back so uh there's no biblical basis Isaac to pray to Mary or any of the saints or any any believers who have died so yeah I I think that is clear all right great so Isaac is fine with that okay we've gone over a few minutes today we will wrap up today's class and we meet again tomorrow so you can think this through and if you have any additional questions let's take it up tomorrow uh so I would request one of us to please pray and close off today's class uh anyone please feel comfortable anyone can just unmute and pray please father we thank you for the time you've given us to come before your presence and learn from your word regarding prayer and intercession or we pray that the lessons that we learned today will be able to apply in our walk with you in our prayer life and we'll be able to bring forth into fruitfulness of God we ask your Holy Spirit Lord Jesus to help us to pray to intercede to maintain that constant relationship with you Lord they're so grateful for all that you are teaching us we humble ourselves once again in Jesus name we pray amen amen thank you thank you John for leading us so yeah take care everyone and yeah Robert seems to know today's John Paul's anniversary so happy wedding anniversary John Paul thank you and glad how about one of us pray for you before we we log off today's class uh Divya would you be able to please pray for John John and his wife glad it's their first year wedding anniversary okay yeah thank you yeah thank you Lord thank you father for this happy moment father Lord in brother John's life in glad's life father Lord we rejoice with them father that you Lord bless them father Lord with this one year of marriage I pray father that you shower Lord your blessings upon them father let their relationship be strengthened father it may grow strong no father Lord in in the just as Lord you desire father Lord I pray that their family be rooted in grounded Lord in the foundation of Jesus Christ Lord I pray father let your glory let your grace let your power of father Lord let your anointing father we manifested Lord in their family Lord we bless them in the name of Jesus Christ Lord I pray let there be love joy Lord peace prosperity for the Lord in their lives I bless both of them Lord in the mighty name of Jesus Christ Lord we thank you and praise you Jesus precious you amen amen amen thank you Divya and congrats John John and glad thank you God bless thank you everyone thank you brother yeah God bless