 do tragic events like this kind of make asian americans view america differently yeah this is going viral right now obviously this is not even the most tragic case of an asian being shot but uh you know we're gonna talk about this one because it had a good ending winnie go andrew was a entrepreneur from socal just driving up to sf to sell some of her projects uh uh and she's on jennivieve street south san francisco and uh got caught in the crossfire between two cars i'm assuming some sort of gang shootout and uh got shot in the leg the bullet fragmented interleg but she didn't die she's gonna make a full recovery and she has a viral post on instagram talking about it yeah um and you know like we obviously keep up with the asian news very closely we might not talk about every single story and every single tragedy because honestly sometimes it's sad man and there's not that much to say you know but i'll mention it now because i i know see people had asked us like obviously jasper who that was a big case i know quan just happened in seattle not too long ago gamey paul happened in uh kentucky recently and those are all tragic four different reasons some of them were intentional some of them were not as intentional so i guess not all these cases are the same but one common thread is that obviously there was an asian victim in in all of them but i guess we're gonna go into the comment section of winnie go's post because uh there is a discussion going on um and i guess i had some i had some questions is it like do you feel like it's fear mongering to pay attention to the asian news sources that cover all the negative asian news so it feels like that this stuff is happening a lot to asians while maybe it's not necessarily happening more frequently but we're just seeing everything um i think people have a right to be informed i do think that news that's written a certain way or it doesn't like always i guess if you want give you like 10 other statistics and contextualize it with like this expert and this competing expert i don't think people can write like these detailed phd thesis is every time they drop a piece of news either right sometimes it's just like this happened yeah um and i i do think like overall i guess uh as long as these news sources like neck shark kind of cover all the stories then it's going to be fair so a lot of people tend to think neck sharks like oh neck shark is too liberal oh neck shark is too right-winged and like well i guess they're doing a good job of being in the middle if both sides think that they're two one way but anyways guys uh yeah we'll get into the comment section and see what we can take away uh from this conversation yeah make sure you like this video um i'm sure a lot of people who are like watching this video you guys have seen an asian news source whether it's on instagram or tiktok or any other channel um it does feel like that asians obviously andrew in terms of uh dishing out violence which is a very american thing let's just be honest at this point dishing out violence or receiving violence it does seem like overwhelmingly asians are on the receiving end oh statistically speaking and i don't know the numbers but this is definitely a stat you guys can look it up and a lot of people know that asians are definitely more likely to get attacked by someone non asian than another asian because asians what when asians do attack someone usually it's another asian well i believe asians are the only group that is less likely to be attacked by their own group somebody from their ethnic group than outside and especially asian women asian women are more likely to get attacked by a non non asian person yeah i don't know guys i mean these are just real stats guys i think honestly it's like weird because some people at andrew they don't they don't like to hear that but everybody dude if you're asian in america you know it's because there's no we don't have the solution man we're just talking about it hopefully you learn some anyways let's get into the comment section somebody said people are talking about politics and gun laws even if winnie go had a gun on her it was a drive-by shooting and she was in her car she got caught in the crossfire the bullet went through her door and hit her leg do you think that she's literally gonna shoot back like this is some sort of john wick movie everybody's talking about rambo and the comments they're all acting tough they weren't there in that situation so basically this is uh i guess regarding what like the male inclination and just like chime in and be like man if that happened to me i'm doing gun food yeah i mean listen i think situations are all different obviously uh that's not someone who's like getting into altercation with winnie go she's literally a bystander in all this so and and she got hit so i think like i do think there's just a lot of tough gun talk on the internet i'm not saying that these guys commenting don't know how to use their guns and they don't get them legally and they're not out in whatever state and they're practicing constantly but it is a lot of like well i would have done this or why didn't she do this well she had a gun if a good guy had a gun there blah blah uh i guess that's that's a lot of the comments usually on stuff yeah i always thought it was crazy the idea of like giving like a school teacher like old miss frizzle from like the magic school bus she's gonna have a burner i mean listen i think the truth is that you have to be pretty well trained to use a gun well so i think is it realistic that you're gonna train everybody that's what everybody's gonna spend their time doing yeah somebody said it's a miracle that she survived and didn't get shot anywhere worse obviously you know there've been a lot of tragic incidents uh the other way r.i.p to everybody somebody said uh yeah she's lucky because getting shot in the leg is one of the worst places to get shot because there's a lot of major arteries um i don't know i think this is true but isn't it just for and only in america do people have long lengthy debates about shot placement in where to get hit right right because i guess it's like uh quite common um and we're getting into the political section anything it's crazy like it just gets politicized right by either side if an asian person gets shot in the leg it now becomes a political debate between the left and the right yeah and and the debate is going to shift depending on whether they got shot in texas or california right because those are governed by different political parties yeah because if it happens in call texas they're going to be like well see look now clearly your laws aren't working and it happens in california well let's look at these liberal policies only soft on crime right and criminals out and all this stuff um yeah and honestly there's probably valid arguments on both sides guys right it's isn't it very situational and almost like this situation validates this side and that other situation validates another side yeah somebody said yeah how are those common sense gun laws working in those liberal utopian cities huh and then somebody said oh this guy's in cell incel alert incel alert somebody else of course kind of came in more moderately and said you know the problem is a hundred percent of lifetime criminals do not care about the law fundamentally so it doesn't matter what laws are on the books but i will admit that tougher gun laws might stop teenage school shooters in a state so and what is this show the what the what was just the situationalness of gun laws because i guess if a state has really strict gun laws it might stop a teenager who doesn't know a lot from getting one at a gun show or whatever easily off their uncle but then it wouldn't change necessarily to rival gang shooting at each other on the on the highway yeah i mean i think at the end of the day organized crime people involved in that they'll always find a way to get a weapon and uh those usually if you probably i don't know the statistic on this one but i would guess that if you obtain a gun illegally you are probably more likely to be involved in gun violence but i will say this about gun violence david i was looking into it and that term gun violence statistics is a very broad statistic it involves people who are committing suicide by gun right and then not shooting other people but themselves and then there's also it also includes uh you know intentional and unintentional gun violence if you accidentally shoot a friend you know that counts as gun violence you know like so like there's it's a really big it's actually super nuanced yeah it's super nuanced and it's like it almost like i don't know guys anyway moving on to the next comment somebody said violent crime is flatter down in sf from pre-pandemic levels and sf is one of the least likely big cities to be killed in but next shark is too dedicated to pushing right wing copaganda to tell you that um this is an interesting commentator because a lot of people accuse right wing of being uh next shark of being too left boba libs and now the people are like you're sparring the right wing i know that there's a movement in sf right now to be like hey guys actually sf's not as bad as you think it is and it might that might be true i'm not saying because i'm i'm not in sf so i'm not going to stand out here and say yeah bad sf but what i will say this is that there's obviously a lot of car like car break ins that you see online so everything you see online is going to confirm that sf is bad now maybe sf gets a lot of coverage but for a city of that size it seems like more bad things are happening to asians or random people than in i don't know i would almost say new york it almost feels like you know what i mean they yeah i mean they both clearly have had very bad i mean new york is a gigantic city though so i guess i would expect more things to happen you know it's so complicated we're talking about the rate who is being targeted if overall gang on gang violence is like way down that's going to drop the overall macro numbers but if like gang on innocent person or too big criminal or um you know let's just say a crackhead on regular person is up but gang on gang violence is super way down that's actually still going to reflect in a macro drop yeah and maybe we're seeing an increased rate of asian victims but the overall crime rate is going down or staying the same right somebody's like yep well less white people are getting attacked so it's okay to me i'm just kidding guys but yeah you know what i mean like maybe asians are getting attacked more often yeah honestly i do think so and you know we're gonna get into that later i do think that asians sometimes we we we we we more live life within our community and our families and we're not even tapped into these narratives about like is california fallen or is texas the new uh you know go to land i don't think that we're tapped into that discussion as much as other groups of america are you saying that maybe if you uh are tapped into more of those conversations you might i guess constantly avoid certain things that might put you at risk dude i mean just give you an anecdotal evidence and for me and you we used to ride on rainier av all the time in seattle and i still do but like a lot of like white people in the town that we came from especially like the richer ones they would never go to rainier like rainier av is like more like well it's considered the hood you know what i mean like it's just because it drops right at the end of rainier is china town obviously to be honest like the white people where we grew up they had no reason to go to china town they have no reason to take rainier and it is true that rainier if you break it down on a statistical averages like i saw swat team on rainier i saw like all types of wild stuff happen on rainier like even just on the street uh regardless but like it didn't happen every time either you know we just talked about statistics it's very hard to to understand unless you guys have lived a life um somebody said man the democrats are have turned a thriving city into a nightmare lenient on homelessness drugs and violent crime and someone said but mayor breed and police chief scott swear streets are safe who do we believe woke is a dangerous and failed ideology uh they defunded the police and now the police can't control everything and everybody's shooting each other um how true or false is this to be honest i'm gonna say it's at least a little true but maybe not probably completely yeah i know that people want to simplify things and always just blame one side or the other and it's like man i mean is it the economy is it job opportunities is it criminals getting out is it yeah not prosecuting them is it gun laws is it this is it the health it gives is it like broken families is it immigration is it all these i don't know yeah and then like let's say for example andrew a school shooting happens in texas people are going to use that to verify their case 10 out of 10 but then when there's somebody who randomly is just like a person trying to live their life a law-abiding citizen randomly gets get gets killed in a gang shootout in california that's going to verify the other side's case but they both got dirt on each other no for sure i mean you could look at some of those uh you've all day and how the police had a bunch of guns and they didn't act in the way that they should have and then you know a bunch of kids lost their lives i mean that was in texas where everybody has guns apparently so i don't it's nothing dude i don't think it's that easy to sum up man there's too much evidence going the other way right right there's way too much nuance it's a situational and it's like this but then this uh also that exception blah blah blah um somebody said this is the reality for people poor people every day in the hood but nobody else cares until this happens i think it's because honestly in the hood you kind of are on guard and you imagine that this type of thing happens but when that starts to seep in and spread into other parts that are not hood then you're like surprised right it's almost like if you have right like like if the for the jasper who case r.i.p if it was just two people shooting each other in oakland rather than on the highway that everybody uses right like there's thousands of thousands of people who use that highway that day or even that hour and it just happened to be you know super unlucky right right right you're bringing something that used to stay on your block yeah to to people who don't live in that area right um and this is a commentary from asians who live outside asia to your original comment is this changing asian's perception of america someone said jesus christ is this just an everyday occurrence for people in the us and someone says why does anybody want to live in america anymore what an ish hole place yeah yeah i definitely think man if you're in canada australia these are very comparable countries to america by the way and in most ways you just think you're in america especially in canada right but uh man where this type of stuff does it happens even less i could see them being like you know oh yeah what's going like what's out as a canadian speak or like australian be like oh crikey this this looks crazy in america right yeah no i mean the truth is does it happen every day i'll tell you this if i hear about it every day it doesn't shock me does it always happen to somebody i personally know every day no absolutely not yeah david do you think america could learn something from candidate australia these are not considered like oppressive authoritarian regimes they feel like free countries when you're there but they still got some asian enclaves you can live there right and they have comedy they got white people black people good sports what why why in america um i mean we don't have the answer but i'm just saying this is something a ponder is what i'm saying dude what can we learn from candidate australia you let me know in the comments down for sure i mean listen i think every system is a little bit different and when every system's a little bit different it ends up with a system that can look the same on the outside but it's fundamentally at its core very different um somebody says i can't believe this girl used a shooting to market her small biz i mean listen guys if winnie go takes a nine millimeter in her ankle and she got to deal with all the fragments you know spreading everywhere let her promote her dog toy business that's what rappers do rappers get shot and it helps their career usually if it doesn't end their career somebody said why do asians want to are so obsessed with moving to california and living in this crazy bullet ridden state obviously this comment was from a white person probably moved down to arizona i mean i have family who lives in california they still like it but yeah they might be avoiding certain areas uh more often now but i mean plenty of people do everybody loves california like any type of person whether you're evil you're good you're a christian non christian you're a gang you're a gangster a non gangster you're a tech person whatever a college professor everybody wants to go to california california yeah if you're a homeless person of course you love california um did you do you think it just ultimately comes down to street smarts because of america increasingly and maybe you could argue that it's always been unbeknownst to other people but now everybody's sort of led in on the secret is a america is a country of amazing highs and or all the companies are still here the economy is still dynamic but it's a place of unbelievable lows and uh canada might not not have the economic highs it might not be as dynamic it's much harder to get rich in canada but they don't have the same lows either and is this just an equation that more people asians have to be aware of and and understand the pros and the cons and how to mitigate the cons and get more exposure to the pros as much as they can yeah i do think a lot more people are looking at america um i think at a time people used to look at america as like the perfect place i gotta be there i gotta be there and then i think they're looking at america like i want to be there but how do i do it in a way where i'm not gonna get involved in this crazy stuff you know um and maybe that's the news maybe it's fear mongering and maybe as a true blood american you might be like well don't come to my country anyways if you don't really want to be here and that's you know that's fair from your perspective to say but yeah how much is it true i mean and uh comedian tim dillon had a very famous quote saying that america has turned into a third world country with a gucci belt on um i would also compare it possibly to a range rover and everybody's like oh man you got a range rover that's tight but everybody knows the range rovers they're always in and out of the shop always got a lot of problems even though they're dope all right everybody let us know in the comments down below what you think about all this uh would love productive comments um what do you think the true answer is uh is there any solution i don't think there is but anyways let us know in the comments down below sometimes it's good to just talk about the stuff and again right we don't address every single tragic event i understand uh sometimes it's just honestly very sad so uh keep it civil in the comments section guys um like i said you know we're just trying to just i mean we can't there's no solution solution there's like 10 things that would need to change and you know i don't know if they're changing until next time we the hop hop boys we out peace