 Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy E-CEO and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Mr. Mako, what's going on? None of you know my dad? Man, I got a guy here today, y'all, he don't really, you know how I say that, he really don't need no introduction. That's what I be doing, I think I'm doing it, he really don't need no introduction though. I'm seeing him man, on your TV, somewhere in your neighborhood maybe, doing something for the community. You just never know where you gonna see this cat at man, my long time friend, who I talk about a lot, right? Yes. Taylor Gabriel is in the building, what's going on man? What's up big dog, man? Man, we appreciate you for coming on the show man, say man, it's been a long time. It's been a very long time. I think I've seen you since I was… You was playing for Horn. I was in Horn. Yeah, no, you came back one time remember? Yeah, you came back one time. Did you see his picture? Yeah, I was when you first went in there, you had been in the league maybe… You missing it, right in front of you. By Boosie, they gotta put you by Boosie, the kid, right back in front of you. I saw him in the way, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you came and seen me, man, he hadn't been here. You the only one. Only the real survived. You know what I'm saying? We like it. So you came and you told me, man, what was going on with you, you did, and it was a lot going on with you, man, you talked about it, and it was going down, and you wasn't here that day. No, I was. I was at Cleveland. You went Cleveland when I first got in there. And the girl, the girl say, some guy, football player, some guy, one of the girls that worked for me, remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, yeah, well who was it? Taylor, I said, girl, you just missed out here. I said, you could have been there. I said, you could have been there. I said, you could have been there. Hell, that boy a millionaire. I said, you done messed up everything. I've been waiting on that boy for years. Oh my God. So how, how, how you been? I've been good, man. I've been good. Just grinding, trying to find kind of my way, my niche in a sense. Yeah. Entrepreneurship coming out the NFL recently returned what three to four months ago. Three to four months ago. Yeah. So just trying to find that balance between being that famous turbo Taylor, Superbowl, you know what I mean? Always in people's face to being a dad, a family man, you know what I mean? Waking up every day and working on my entrepreneurship, my truck and business. I'm pretty sure we're going to get into it. Yeah, we're going to get into it. So the stuff that I got on the side, so it's just, it's different. Trying to find a good balance between the two for sure. I really, I, when I think about you and just everything that wrapped up in a bow and hand to my thoughts, I really be like, man, you, I done never seen it coming. I ain't going to lie to you. I was like, man, this nigga too little go down to me. I used to tell you that, that nigga ain't nothing. And then I got mad when I found out he was in there. I said, what? I ain't nothing wrong with that. I said, I thought I was like, damn, if I had his mindset, yeah, I'll be somewhere else too. But he, you, the way you didn't let anything stop you is just, man, that's dope, bro. Yeah. Hold on. You know, we know your story, but viewers might not know your story. So we want to go back to when you were a little boy growing up. Did you always want to play football? You know, or your only child single, you know, mom, dad, we need to know everything. Okay. She going back down. Right. Right. In Horn, we're just growing up. I played football. You know what I mean? I was always the little guy. I was never a big guy. I knew I was faster than others. I know I had more ability than other people. You know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, I didn't think it would translate to the NFL just because like you saying, eat my size. At that time, when I was growing up, I didn't, we didn't have like little guys to look at. You know what I mean? It was always Michael Irvins and Calvin Johnson, these big guys. And I'm not a big guy. So I wasn't thinking about the NFL. So I was thinking about going to school. Become into what? I graduated information systems. Okay. So my daddy was a tech guy, a developer and it's an encryption. Yeah. So a password keys and things like that. Yeah. So I do have, I can do that. But at the end of the day, God had a different story for me. And when high school came, long story short, my mom had passed. So 2006, she had passed. And I kind of, I gave up on football. I gave up on life in general. My life had paused. I wasn't going to school. I wasn't doing too much of anything. You know what I mean? But what brought me back is kind of, I just use her death in the sense to kind of motivate me in the way it happened. Her having that aneurysm. Her telling me that night, her telling me that night that she won't always be around for me. She won't always be around to, to wake me up in the morning, to be that mother figure in my life to tell me, Taylor, you need to do this, this and this. My grades was bad. I'm hanging out. I'm doing stuff that I, you know what I mean? I wasn't supposed to be doing. And for her to pass that morning after her like whooping my butt like she gave me a whooping. Yeah. She gave me a whooping that night. Like she stayed around just to tell you that. Right. Right. She gave me a whooping that night and to wake up that morning and she gave me $2. She was like, man, I'm not always going to be here to. Did you save that $2? I did. I got that. I still got that $2. Yep. I'm not. It was just kind of weird. You know what I mean? So she dropped me off at school. Ian was so crazy, man. Maybe five minutes later she died. Wow. Yeah. I remember me and you going back to that, you know, in here after that, me and you talk briefly about it. Yeah, we did. You know what we did. I talk about God a lot to you too. I don't know if you remember that, but I'd always, because you know that's who I am. Yeah. But at the end of the day, I just thank God that I was a part of your life during that time. And man, you had a dope friend. Y'all had a dope system too. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And you was always a client. You had the right crew. You had the right crew, man. There's just something positive in my life that was going on at that time. A lot of people don't know about that. A lot of people read about that by me, but a lot of people don't know kind of what I went through that mental struggle of like my faith and where my motivation comes from, where my drive comes from. And so after that, I go the, I'm thinking I'm about to go to TCU. Yeah. You know what I mean? LSU was stuff like that. So another roadblock, my grades aren't good because of that year that I took off. So my SATs, I didn't have anybody that went to college. So I didn't know about SATs and ACTs. So my SATs wasn't good. So now like all my offers are gone. I can't get into college. I can't do what I want to do. So now I take this one drive to West Texas, Abilene Christian. Never heard of it. I knew about it. Never heard of the city. Never heard of what was going on out there. Country. Country. Very country. But I'm glad that I went. I think God put me at a Christian school because that's what I needed. Yeah. It grounded me because I was kind of lost as a man and as a person. But it's a really good school though. It's a very good school. Because the school I used to go to, Southwestern Christian College, all the kids come from that school and go straight to Abilene Christian. Yeah. It's a very good school. We used to go to church every day at 12. That's the same thing. In college. Like they used to make us go to church. That's dope. And I needed that. Man, I needed that type of structure. Like college, I mean I didn't party. I didn't do anything. I played football. I worked. Did y'all do Bible classes? It was a requirement? Yeah. I used to do Bible classes. It was like in a class. Like man, if you cheating this class, it's like, Man, I was scared to cheat. You know what I mean? Exactly. Like do I cheat in this Psalms Bible class? You talking about Moses and Jesus? It's hard to cheat. Yeah. Man. So how did you find out that, Hey man, I'm going to the Cleveland Browns, right? Yeah. Man, another crazy roadblock. NFL, I probably have the best pro day that any person can ever think of. He like, I had the fastest 40. I jumped. My vertical was high. I was excellent. I mean, everything that I could do, I possibly did. Every opportunity that presented itself, I was excellent at that. So it gets to NFL, I guess come to draft day or whatever. My name isn't called. I don't get a call from my agent. And at the end, all the free agents, undrafted free agents, they already get picked up. So my agent called me and he was like, man, no one, like no one wants you, you know what I mean? Because of your size. So he said, but we do have a tryout for you for Cleveland and the Raiders. He was like, you choose where you will go. I'm like, me choose. I choose. I'm like, you the agent. You're supposed to know. Which one is best? Yeah. Which one is best? So like, I'm like on YouTube and I'm researching like what I receive. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, this is your job. You know what I mean? So I'm doing that. And I'm in my sister's like graduation party. So I'm like nervous. So I just, man, let's go to Cleveland. Forget it. Let's go to Cleveland. So get the call from Cleveland and go down there on a tryout basis. I'm not an undrafted free agent. I'm not signed to anything. It's like a tryout. It's like, you can tell them like, let me try out. Yeah. You know what I mean? They'll let you try it. Like anybody could go try out for an NFL team within this time. That's basically what I was. And I love the fact that you were humble enough to just do it because some people would be like, now I'm going to wait because I'm not going, somebody's going to drive me. You know what I mean? Right. Right. Yeah. So I, man, that day must have been great too. It was, but just my whole life has just been unsettling about opportunities and take advantage of it. And it's a lot of stress and anxiety that comes with that. But I haven't thought about that until I retire. So going to Cleveland, I mean I get to Cleveland. My first day there, they just drafted a cornerback or whatever in first round, top 10 pick or whatever. So we doing one on one. So, you know what I mean? I'm young. I'm hype. I'm from Dallas. You know what I mean? I want you. You know what I mean? I slept on me. No, I want you. So we lined up and I even got the video. I can send to you, man. I run like four goal balls on them. Catch it every time. Burning them, boy. Burning them. Like going crazy, burning them. So we get into the whole practice and then I get hurt. And it's only three days of tryouts. So I get hurt on the first day of tryouts. Pushing too hard. Pushing too hard. Going too hard. I'm trying to, you know what I mean? I'm burning the soul off my shoes. You know what I'm saying? So the next day I go up to the gym office and, you know, NFL talking to the gym. He liked to grin, reap. But you don't even want to look at the gym. You know what I'm saying? When you walk in. So for the, for me try out, I go up and talk to, and all this is like documented. You can research and look it up. I go upstairs, man, and I go into the GM's office. I knock on his office and I look at him and tell him like, sir, if you give me an opportunity to be on this team, to sign me to a mini camp, I'll be the best decision that you've ever made in your career. I told him that the GM, I told him that I'm betting on myself. So he, he, Were you nervous going up there? Do you even say that? Man, you know, I'm from Dallas, man. I believe in me. I believe in D, man. Keep it going, man. You know what I'm saying? I'm from the D. I'm gonna shoot my shot. My shot, I feel the good. Oh, okay. I'm gonna shoot it. Okay. So I believe in me. At the end of the day. That's good. When hearing all this, I honestly believe in myself no matter the situation. Y'all hear that? Y'all have to believe in yourself. No matter the situation. No matter the situation. And I'm never hesitant. I'm gonna always go at it. I'm gonna always go at it 100 miles per hour. What's that GM say? He, he looked at me and laughed. He looked at me and laughed, man. I won 65 soaking wet. You know what I mean? I got Greg little Josh Gordon. He not worried about me. So he gives me an opportunity though because he sees kind of my fire and kind of my fortitude and what I'm trying to do. So he, man, we get into off to the off season and getting the training camp. And I mean, I'm having the best training camp that you can ever even think of. I'm on special teams. I'm burning people down. I'm doing everything possible that I can do to make this team. You know what I mean? To be on the back of the roster to make a team is kind of unheard of to make a team as a tryout. You know what I mean? So we get to. But don't try out. Sorry. But don't tryouts normally would push even harder than the people who they already picked. But you can. But at the end of the day with football, if he's better than you, he's better than you. If you're a tryout, there's a reason that you would try out. You know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, I felt like I got slipped on. I felt like I was supposed to be a tryout. I was supposed to be a first round draft pick, but it's just a simple fact. They slipped on me because of my size. That's why I was a tryout. It wasn't my athletic ability. It's just, I need to be in front of you to see you. Because on paper, when you look at five, eight, 162 pounds, that don't look too good. You know what I'm saying? But to actually see me in front of your face and doing my thing, it's a different thing. So we get to training camp. I'm balling in training camp. We get to cuts. I make the team. I make the team, man. I make the team. And I wouldn't have never thought that I would have made that team coming from a tryout, coming from what I was. And I was competing with like five other guys. I was competing with five other guys that are in the NFL right now and they have great careers. You know what I'm saying? So I beat out a lot of like top guys. How did it feel when you heard that, that you had made the team? Like that day? Like, because when I left college, when I left college, man, my car broke down. So I'm like, man. I'm going through it. Yeah. I'm going through it. I'm like, man, leave that car. I left all my stuff in there. It's probably still an ambulance. So I left that car, man. I left everything and from, from, and when I got that car, I was like, man, now I'm able to like buy myself a car. I'm able to, you know what I mean? Pay, pay, pay, pay, pay wifey back to everything that she invested in me. I'm, I'm staying with her during, during this whole process. I'm staying with my aunt. I got $30 to my name. I'm jumping from car to car, eating McDonald's, working out. You know what I mean? I ain't have nothing to my name at the time. So to have that is like, man, the first thing I bought, man, I bought myself a Dodge Challenger, man. V6. Nobody can, they can tell me nothing. That's when you drove over. Yeah. Yeah. Man, they can tell me nothing about that car, man. That was my first, first. Yeah. That thing was right. It wasn't, it wasn't that cheap one. Yeah. But when you, but after, okay. And I don't want, because I know that we can talk forever. When you went from there to, to Atlanta, how did that happen? After two years there in Cleveland, I was hurt that last year and brought a new regime, new head coach and things like that. And I mean, I had a good, I had a decent count, but with NFL and kind of football, the GM's kind of have their favorites in a sense. Someone could be better, but they've invested more into this guy. I'm kind of giving y'all the, the, the inside scoop on the NFL. So everything isn't always fair. You know what I mean? So if they invest, it's a lot of politics. So if you invest more into somebody, that GM, he's going to want to push his guy. He's not going to want to push this other guy that he has no ties to. Correct. You know what I mean? So I kind of got stuck into that. So my officer coordinator was in Cleveland. He went to Atlanta. So when I got cut, I got cut at, I got cut in the morning at 10 o'clock. I got picked up by Atlanta. I was on a flight at three PM in the afternoon in Atlanta. Bless. Bless. Bless. With that shana. Shana hand. Cow shana hand. Yeah. So I come home and I tell wifey like, man, we going to Atlanta like pack a few things. Let's go. Pack it up. You know what I mean? I just bought this apartment. Just put furniture in it. You know what I mean? So pack up your things. Let's go. So I fly to Atlanta and I get there and it's a whole different dynamic, a whole different structure of team. Like this is what the NFL looks like. Man, I walk into the locker room. They jamming. Uh, they jamming all this rap in Cleveland. We couldn't listen to rap music. It was a lot of stuff that we couldn't do. Man, I walk into Atlanta. Man, they listen to rap music. Man, I feel like I'm in Magic City. Man, they got their shirt out. They rolling dice. I'm like, man, this is what NFL is like. You know what I'm saying? So when that first half, I was like, man, it's just a blessing that God put me in these situations to succeed. And then E, I, when you go from getting cut at 10, being on a plane at three. And then I think I slept, I slept at Josie's house. I slept at Josie's house that night. And then in the morning, I had practice. So that morning it was like approve yourself type of practice in Atlanta. So to go from getting cut at 10 to being on a flight at three to sleeping at your homeboy house. You know, if I'm sleeping in my homeboy house and then waking up that morning on approve yourself type of deal. So man, yeah, I'm looking at Julio Jones. I already know. Man, my home is so new. I'm looking at a team of Matt Ryan. I'm like, oh my God. I thought that was dope. When you get traded though, and you moved to another team, how hard is it to build a nation? No, when you get cut. When you get cut. Yeah, say cut. You gotta say cut. When you get cut. And you now, you know, finding you home, how hard is it for you to build that relationship with your new teammates? It's, I mean, it's, it's, it's through anything because we men. Yeah. You got to gain my respect. And when you gain in my respect, you got to show me something. You know what I'm saying? Like you got to show me why you're here. You got to show me why I should respect. You got to show me why I should talk to you. So that's just kind of, that's football. It's, it's a violent sport and it's very like on some sports at 300 types of. So I, I, I get up that morning and I go against like Rocky, uh, um, Robert Alford and he's known for being aggressive. Yeah. So I ain't know that, you know what I mean? So my first snap after I'm going to get him and he like jumped at me. Yeah. He hit me all in my, in my face mask and stuff. It's like I'm on the yard. You know what I mean? I'm like, I can't show these people. I'm no punk. You know what I mean? So I slap off and hit him. You know what I mean? So we arguing and stuff. So throughout the whole thing, he's guarding me. So I guess they told him to guard me just to see where I was and where I was at. And after that first rep, even I cooked him the whole practice. I already know. I think he got me paid that day. But the thing is, like when you go into a situation like that and dealing with these guys, who the old Jones being maybe notably wanted the best to do it. At that, at that time, I was more worried about, damn, they going to hurt my boy. I always used to say that. I'd be in the bed. I quit. I wouldn't watch football, bro. You made me to work because I don't enjoy it no more like I used to. But when you played, I would watch it dinner religiously. And I tell my brother, I'll be like, man, I don't care whoever you playing against, I'm against him. You know what I'm saying? I don't give a damn whoever you with, I'm with him. You know what I'm saying? So and I just, when I seen that, I seen Julio, I was like, dang, that's going to really get, I felt like he was going to really shine because they going to be trying to guard the hell out of Julio. I'm like, and they going to throw it to that little nigga. That little nigga ain't going to fold. You know what I'm saying? That's what I thought about it. And that's exactly how it happened, man. Just throughout my whole career, I'm sorry, it's just been opportunity. Just take advantage of it. If someone's to always say like, man, what did you do with your opportunity? I feel like everyone has a chance in their life, like a certain window, a certain opportunity where they can become that person that they think they are or the goals or rich and famous or whatever you want to be in life is always one turning point in your life to where you have that opportunity is what you do with that opportunity. And with me, I can honestly say like, every opportunity I had, I mean, I did my thing with it. Like I didn't fumble the bar, I didn't drop it. I did exactly what I envisioned myself doing and more. And I think that's what separates me from the average person is because mentally, I was already that person. Mentally, I was who I was, who I am today. And I think that kind of just, I never doubted myself through any opportunity, through any situation that was never any doubt. And I think that kind of helped me put me in the position that I am today. And I love that, I really love that because some people, opportunity comes to everyone. For sure. But the thing is that some people because, and we all have ups and downs because you had ups and downs. Yeah, yeah. Some people get so angry because of all of those downs that they overlook those opportunities. They're blinded by the anger, the hate, all of that and overlook it. And that's why they don't see it. They can't grasp that opportunity. But I love the fact that you were able to see it and go head on for it. No matter what you were going through, you still believe in yourself. I knew that you were worth more than whatever troubles that you were going through. But how did it feel to have them come back on you in that Superbowl? I can tell you something. Man, I'm about to hear it. No, I was mad as hell. That day, that was a bad day. And this dude next door that you had met, you remember the Indian dude next door on the Egyptian dude? He called me in the middle of the game, look like your wife is a winner of Superbowl. You know what I mean? And I was like, the Egyptian guy, Mike is the guy next door. And I was like, man, then after that, he called me. I'm like, dog, don't call me. I was so mad. I was upset because I felt like I lost. But that was tough. That's when I decided in my heart that football is read. That day, that was my day. I was like, I said, damn, the point spread. The point spread is off. So what caused the, how did you end up in Chicago? I'm just trying to walk through this football thing and quit. I mean, after playing in the Superbowl, I kind of made a name for myself. The Turbo Taylor name or whatever it is. I kind of made a name for myself. And I think that kind of carried me out through the rest of my career. And with Atlanta, and just being honest on this show, I know I can talk real well. This show, this boss talk, what a boss is talking. Yeah, with Atlanta, I had an opportunity that summer to sign a nice little deal in Atlanta. Man, like inside school, dude, like DQ. DQ, the defense coordinator is here in Dallas right now. That was my head coach. So he brought me up to his office. Man, he signed something on a piece of paper and he signed like a cash, signed like a money sign. You know what I mean? So he was like, Turbo, he called me TG. Like, you deserved it. You just write down the number that you want. You know what I mean? So I'm like, damn, you know what I mean? Did you go up high? You know what I did? And he was like, man, we're going to get this done. So what happened was in the Super Bowl, I fractured my tibia. And I played through it, but I shouldn't have. And that kind of messed me up. So that offseason, DQ was real big on camaraderie, football camaraderie, and just being involved. So, man, I'm trying my best to work through the pain and go through the pain, but I couldn't. So that whole offseason, I didn't do anything. So it was kind of like, it wasn't a good look on the behalf of me about to get paid. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm a white collar, third, whatever receiver that I am. You know what I mean? I'm not Julio Jones. I can't do that. So we get to the season. And with Matt Ryan, like, man, I'm spilling all the beans on here. No, go ahead. I'm right here. That's what we're here for. We make you real comfortable. Yeah, yeah. Right. With Matt, and the whole reason why I didn't sign back in Atlanta was because with Matt Ryan, just not my work ethic, just I couldn't give him what he was looking for. Okay. Because of my shin. So when we would run routes, I couldn't run as fast. And he wants that in-game look. You know what I'm saying? So I guess it came off as me not giving 100% of my work ethic being off. But I literally couldn't. I had to warm that thing up before I get going because I was in excruciating pain. You know what I mean? And I had to deal with that for the longest. So we kind of fell out over that. And the deal kind of fell out on the wayside. We never kind of came back to contract talks. And I mean, I was having a good year that year. You know what I mean? So it came to a point in their year towards like, man, I got to look out for myself. I can't keep putting myself in these bad situations because if I get hurt, like, man, ain't nobody going to want to sign me. I'm right. You know what I mean? So it was just a weird time in my life because I went from being up there, signing that number, me seeing that to now I'm kind of like, oh, I really don't want you. But I just, I want you here to make plays when it's here to be made. So at the back end of that year, man, it was kind of weird, man, to be honest. But going into that offseason, I knew that somebody would pick me up, but I didn't know. Emanuel was there the day that I got the call from Chicago Bears, man. And man, I'm nervous the whole day, my anxiety back. I'm like, man, ain't nobody going to pick me up. I'm seeing all this money going across the screen. All my home was getting paid 36 million, E42, man. I'm like, man, I'm colder than him. 36 million. I'm 36 million. You know what I mean? Everybody getting paid and I never hated on them. You know what I'm saying? I knew it was always going to be a time for me, no matter what the opportunity was. So, man, my agent called me at the back end of the day before deadline closes, maybe like 10 minutes before it was supposed to close. He called me. He was like, turbo, I got a deal for you. I'm like, man, what it is? I'm thinking it's like a little one year. You know what I mean? Look, 2.5, 2 million. I said, man, I'm straight. I'm from Dallas, man. I don't know 2.5 million looking like it. You know what I mean? So, man, he called me. He was like, man, turbo, we got a deal for you for, it was like a three year, $15 million deal. Like $15 million. I'm like, take it. I'm like, hey, I'm talking to you. I'm like, take it, take it, take it. And my agent is on the phone. He was like, man, like, chill, like relax. Man, I'm giving you out of inside school. He telling me like, chill, chill, relax. I'm going to get you more. I'm like, it's $14 million. How much more I need? You know what I'm saying? I think I'm straight with $14 million. You know what I mean? How much more can I get? So, it's probably a minute before the deadline. And I think I'm feeling a little faint. I'm feeling the past. Because I think he done messed up on the $14 million. So, man, he can attest to all this, man. He called me back. He said, man, Taylor, I got you four. I got you four years for $26 million. With $14 million guaranteed. And everything up front in the first two years. So I'm like, man, this can't be real. You got to send that contract. I need to see something. So, man, I get in. I tell my family and I see it all on ESPN. Everybody hit me up. Everybody blowing me up. It just kind of reverted me back to just my faith and opportunities, man. Just never lose faith and just never doubt yourself, man. Just always think positive. Never think a negative, you know what I mean? Outcome on what you're trying to do. And for me to come from what we all just talked about. Come on, man. Four years for $26 million. It can't always tell God growing up like God, if you put me in this position, I promise that I will use this to help others and put other people in position. You know what I'm saying? And I think that's what he did. I don't think this money is just for me, but it's for everybody that I can touch. That's so good when you can see the purpose. And then the maturity level, man. I see you just talked about going from a young man to maturity. Maturity, you was like, all right, they told me to sign here. I signed the paper to going all the way through Atlanta to get to that, to Chicago. And self-awareness is everything. To go in and talk to the GM and self-awareness. Understanding who you are. That's important, man. Most people don't have the confidence level to do a lot of stuff that you just talked about. So it's really just having that confidence and self-awareness and all the God-willing texts and stuff that you put at the end of everything you was doing. All that stuff matter, man. And you walked in purpose. That's all it was. And being organic and really seeing that, although you're saying that your faith and so forth, we all human beings, sometimes we're wavering that faith because when you talk about your anxiety and the doubt and all of that, but yet you come right back to it and be like, isn't God good? Giving him the glory because you see it. You know what I mean? I love that. And I can give a good example. At the end of the day, it's like taking a test. If you study for that test and you know everything on that test and you feel comfortable. When you get in there, what you doing when you get that test? You trying to... You trying to kill that test. So I think in life and all my opportunities, man, I grinded so hard. I worked so hard, man, to where I couldn't sleep at night and to where I felt like somebody was beating me and my opportunity. And that's why I say with all my opportunities, I took advantage of it, not because I just was confident and cocky and believed in myself. Like, I put in crazy hours before this opportunity came. So when it came, it's like I knew all the answers to the test. I remember when you was over here, like I said, I got mad as hell when he was in there. I said, man, then it came to beat me no push up. I said, man, I still was trying to fight and I didn't have nothing to fight with no more. I was so proud of you, though, man. We are proud of you. Me and my wife, we remember you, you was an introvert, really. He wasn't talking about it. Yeah, he was quiet. Yeah, your mother knew we were fly. He was real. Especially he. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was the one that would call himself a player. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, I'm proud of it, man. But I was a little pee. But I wanted to know, so, because in the whole conversation you're talking about, you always mention your wifey. So, how important was it to have her by your side during the whole transition? Man, just, she kind of kept me grounded. You know what I'm saying? When you get to a certain point in your life to where you and kind of like your... And how old were you when she came into your life? My sophomore year in college. So, we've been together almost 10, 12 years. Okay. So, I call it like your godly form. Like, when you come into that godly form in the sense of saying like, this is God's purpose for you. When you come into that form, the people around you can be yes, man. They can be, not saying my circle was, they can be yes, man. You can do what you want to do. And there's no precaution to it. And you can be that person because when I was outside, everybody loved me. Everybody showed me love. Oh, that's him, that's him. But when you come home to your girl, your wife is like, nah, boy, you need to do this. You know what I'm saying? You tripping. You need to... So, to kind of have that always there throughout my whole career, man, I didn't do a whole bunch of partying. I didn't throw away a lot of my money. So, at the end of the day, I can honestly say, man, my wife probably saved me $10 million. And you always valued her opinion. And I always valued her. I always try to make her equal to me. I never put my money over her head. I never put who I was over my head because we always made decisions together. And then also, because I know that going into an NFL, you know, you have those women out there over at the NFL play, I'm going because I'm going to be his wife. I'm going this, I'm going that. So, I know you had all those ladies probably trying to hit on you and stuff like that. Yeah, for so. How did you handle that? And, you know, because you see all those scandals. We see all of those problems. Don't tell her everything. Because then you have those people that caught up in situations like that. How can they prevent that? Yeah, that's dope. How can you prevent that? It's really just, it's really just, man, the decisions that you make just not putting yourself in that situation because I feel like a situation can get overwhelming into a point to where it's kind of out of control. I never put myself in a situation to where I wasn't in control. And I can really say that through over my whole period of time. And for me, like, you know what I mean? If a party is going on and if I ain't feeling it, like I'm like, man, I leave, you know what I mean? And I think that's the difference because and I ain't going out of my way for nobody, you know what I'm saying? So, at the end of the day, I think my advice is just don't put yourself in that situation. If you know any kind of hate or harm can come out of the situation, why even put yourself in that situation? You know what I'm saying? So I think that's kind of helped me throughout my whole career. Let me ask you this, man, because you had, after your mom passed and I'm going back a little bit, your sister and your father, boy, your dad look happy, boy. I said, man, this boy didn't make, boy, you made the family happy. Your sister look happy. I watched all those pictures, man. You know, because I pay attention because I know where it's coming from and I'm really looking and paying attention to the fact of how their lives changed and the rest of this as well. I thought, how did your sister react just over the years? You know what? What's so funny, man? I'm going to tell you a funny story. My sister really don't understand football. She don't. She don't know, like, understand, really touch down. And first down, she just knew her brother was playing. You know what I'm saying? My sister didn't understand that I was famous and I was who I was until the Super Bowl. So let's say four years into my career. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know what I mean? I'm getting her stuff. You know what I mean? Doing health and tuition. She ain't tripping. This is what you're supposed to do. You know what I'm saying? But she didn't really understand it. She went to a Super Bowl and, like, seen my picture on the side of the, on the side of, like, the dome in Houston. And she was like, oh, okay, my brother is something now. I know, sir. Dad already knew. He's been pushing, you know, all the time. You know, he's living through me. He is in there. You can't tell him nothing. You can't tell him nothing. He didn't play. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah. That little boy that looked like your twin to be running around. Emmanuel keeps taking pictures of him, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Little turbo is just in the building, man. Junior Junior. Man, so, so, um... Would you ever want him to be in the NFL? You know what? I don't want him to play football. Everybody say that. Who just said that? That's what I was wondering. Oh, Carl Crawford said he didn't want his kids to play. He didn't want to play football, man, just because I've already done it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I've already conquered that within a whole lifetime span. You know what I'm saying? It didn't do anything to me. But just saying, like, man, I want him... I'm giving you the opportunity to go overseas and play the trumpet or the violinist or something. You know, I'm giving you that opportunity to explore that build. Astronaut or... You might be surprised. He might just turn around and want to be just like you. I know, and if he does, then I'm going to push him. But I'm going to push him in the area to where... To be all around. To be all around, to be an architect. You know what I mean? A developer, like a surgeon. I didn't get that opportunity to do that because I didn't know anything about college. I'm in college. I don't know anything. I'm playing football, but he has that opportunity to do that. So if you want to go... What they say when the kids go overseas and I don't know what they call it, you're going overseas and they doing school overseas. I know what you're talking about. Man, go do that. Introduce yourself to a life that I wasn't introduced to. Exactly. How many more do you want? I just have one. How many more do you want? I'm done. He done. He need a girl. He done. No, he said he needed a girl. He need a girl. It's called Daddy's Little Girl. I know, man. I want a girl. See? It's all good. She done. She done. So just as far as you and Emmanuel have been friends ever since, I got to talk about that. Y'all been friends ever since y'all was young. How did y'all stay linked like you did? You know I lost my best friend. He died in a car wreck. Man, I hate to hear that. That was a long time ago now. Shout out Michael Harrison, man. I still love you. And I love Michael Jr. as well. You need to come on the show. But anyway, yeah, just how did y'all stay linked to all these years? Man, he kept himself involved with me. You know what I mean? He can tell you that. I don't talk a lot. I'm not the best of friends either. Really? I'm not the best of friends. Sometimes I can be alone by myself a lot. You push people away. I push people away. Yeah. And he is the person to where like he's the perfect, I guess he's the perfect friend for me because I'll push you away and he'll go around the back though and be like, man, what you doing, dawg? But that's the friendship. That's what friends do, man. Real friends don't ever leave your side no matter how you act or whatever. And man, he never left. He never left. And there was nothing that I was on just like some Hollywood stuff. That's just me. Like, man, I can chill by myself all day every day and be good. You know what I mean? I'm on the floor and play with pennies. Lay down in my hammock. But he kept himself involved with me, man. He actually, he cared about me as a person. And man, as men, like I can honestly say, man, he loved on me, man, at the time to where I needed it. At the time to where I didn't feel like I can trust anyone. And he gave that to me for a friend to kind of stay around me and stay kind of in my pocket like that. I can only say that now, I'm pretty sure he can't believe, I'm finna say this, I can only say that I love him back. You know what I'm saying? Come on, man. It's very appreciative for sure. I've seen it. I mean, I see it now. I mean, it's something. I'm just glad I got to see it. You blessed me by y'all letting me see how real it can be. Everybody else out here talking about how fake everybody is. Y'all keep it so 100. And it's real, man. And you seen us together. We was together in this shop doing push ups. Every time, man. Whatever y'all was doing, I was doing it together. And that's dope, bro. The genuine brotherhood. I want to get into the entrepreneurship a little bit. I want to get out. Let's talk a little bit about X's in the NFL and how that affected you, man. Because I knew it couldn't have been easy because you love football so much. Man, and honestly, I can say it was easy to me. It was easy to me just because I had accepted... I came to a point to where I accepted what I did for the NFL and my opportunity and my short window and you heard my story, man. It was just so tiring. Keep having to prove myself and prove myself. But I came to a point to where I accepted it that I did everything that I was supposed to do and it's life now. It's time for me to change somebody else's life. I've hit my totem pole and my goals and I've got where I needed to be. Now, it's time for me to touch a manual. If I can touch y'all, it's time for me to touch y'all. It's time for me to give something more valuable than money is my time. Now, it's my time to pour into my people. Yeah, well, like I said, you couldn't wrote this out, man. Ain't no way in hell. I couldn't wrote this out. I mean, I couldn't do it if I knew out of came to every football game. But that's not the way God wanted it. So I never wanted to play that part. That's the way I looked at it. I'm gonna be honest with you, when we was coming to Atlanta that time, I was trying to look up with you. And I was just like, you know, if it happened, it happened, but if it don't, it don't. I still love you, but I understand. You got a mission you got to do. I'm gonna figure this out. Okay, life is something else. No matter what you throw at me, I'm gonna make it out of something. And that's the difference. Because when you got two friends who's grinding towards their goals and what they trying to do, they don't get caught up in the bullshit. I'm sorry. They don't get caught up in the bullshit in the sense of, man, he ain't pick up the phone. Or, man, he Hollywood. Or man, he's changed. I'm grinding, dawg. I'm saying, like, okay, I see you calling, but shit, let me get this last set. And this last set doesn't turn into an hour. And then from that hour, I went into my entrepreneurship and that turned into another hour. So at the end of the day, man, I'm tired. You know what I'm saying? And I forgot to hit you back, but that doesn't mean I don't love you. Also, that means you're not working as hard as me. You know what I'm saying? If you're waiting on me. So at the end of the day, and that's what I've already respected about you, he has always kept it. So, you know what I mean? A hundred work, man. Because he grinded. He was his own boss. Bosses relate to other bosses. And we're supposed to be in a room with each other and sit at the dinner table together and eat with each other. And create other bosses. So I can't... I respect the fact that you know what position God put me in. You know what I'm saying? Self-awareness, again. Self-awareness is important. My wife, she had my back this whole time. You've been seeing her ever since you were a kid. And I've seen that with you. Without her, I wouldn't be who I am right now. So I know that and I love you. Yeah, let's get it popping. You might go down the night. Real talk. And I've seen it. Well, it's so crazy because it's just the influence of your lady, you know what I'm saying? As me, it's good to see that. And I know that's normal. You know what I'm saying? You've got so many people who are getting into a position and you never see they first lady. And to see your first lady, your first lady is not just working. She's right beside you. And I feel like as a man, you need that. Definitely. But you're younger. So for me growing up, I know what you see even more because the woman was supposed to be at home behind the scenes. They might have been in the business but they weren't seen. It was made to the men who were in front doing what they do. But I don't know if it was because of Jay-Z, Beyonce, or even Power Couples and celebrities became a thing where all of a sudden everybody on social media was showing more Power Couples, them grinding together. So it's more prevalent now in today's society. But the difference is when you pick a partner, you pick a partner. When you picked your partner, you weren't just picking her out just off her looks. You was picking her because of her mind. You knew what she could bring to you. You know what I'm saying? I think we should do it this way. Someone that can correct you even when you was wrong and you can respect it. I wrote a letter to God, man. Baby, I need to write a letter. There should have been more detail on what I wanted. I just said I want a pretty woman. I can't look at an ugly woman. I need a woman that's going to help me when I need her. He gave me everything I asked for and more. I can't be mad at him. So entrepreneurship coming out. I've seen the trucks. They look like some Bob tales. I've seen that and I've seen y'all pushing hard. Explain to me what that is and give me some details on it. When the pandemic came I've seen a lot of people losing jobs and I've seen a lot of people they didn't have a way to you know what I mean? To pay for stuff. Everybody losing their jobs. I got with E and Josie. What's a way to help people? What's a way to supply people jobs? What's something that can't go out of business Amazon. Amazon. I used to order from them. When the pandemic hit my orders started they were the ones you could have seen. You've seen the trucks everywhere in Amazon. What's so crazy is I bought a box truck and I drove. I was working for Amazon for about six months. Did you need a CDL for it? No you don't need a CDL. I wanted to experience you want to know your business. I worked. I was working behind to see how I had a mask on. Nobody knew who I was and one day I think I was late to some I took off running and the manager or whatever that's over everything he was like man you fast as hell man. He was like man you fast as hell man you should think about playing football. I'm like man you know what I think I should play football and I think I had messed up and drove one of my cars there one night because my other little dugout car wasn't available so I met Amazon and a Lamborghini so he come outside and he see me jump in and then we get to talking and just pouring things out and at the end of the day he was a big fan of mine. That opened up so many doors for me to take for me to drive and learn it to now we have in 10 lanes so 10 lanes with box trucks we have 10 trucks going each night so I've supplied my sister works for me my wife's cousin works for me my cousin my cousin cousin my sister's cousin like man it's like you ever had a family like man let me hold $20 now you can't hold $20 to drive this box truck I did that but it was the wrong way. But I used to always hear that it's the worst thing to hire a family. It's not. It's gonna know how you organize your business. I ran into some things but my heart is so big man I'm gonna give you an opportunity to you cross me and when you do cross me I'm gonna keep your business I'm gonna fire you I'm not gonna play with you because if you play with my money then I gotta play with yours so I'm gonna cut it off I'm not gonna play with it too much so I probably hire maybe over $20 to $30 maybe $50 in your family not just in general the pandemic that's needed a job an opportunity to pay for they rent so with that we created that a manuals in that and man that run itself man I don't even my wife's cousin and my sister and my wife actually runs that business yeah she run it like I don't even put my hands on anymore don't more than the development real estate life what I was gonna ask you about next you had told me about the real estate now what's going on with that with real estate I do affordable housing so it's between $250 and $350,000 so it's more of a millennial type group anybody who's into like first home buying I'm building those and I'm not just building those I'm building it to where it's like I will live in it so it's nice it has nice amenities of kind of a million dollar house I build homes and I just build homes I've been in preparation to building community so 20 homes and 60 homes cooperating and conjoining JVs with like Jack Matthews Jack Matthews is a developer who built the Omni Hotel and Dick LeBlancs and he's a guy who's built communities around Texas what's the name of your company Gabriel Property Solutions so stuff like that man and just having an opportunity to expand my portfolio and it's never for a person I mean as a business man you gotta have a little you know what I mean you gotta have some business and cash flow coming in but it's more to put people in position you've been saying it the whole time my builder is a younger black guy younger black gentleman core homes, K-O-R-E homes and he's my age and he's been building so I gave him my opportunity to build a community built this 14 home community for me I see you've been doing onesies and twosies now let me give you the opportunity to build this community and become of you know what I mean a home builder because I remember when we were looking at when I be window shopping I always look for certain builders because I know that they do certain things all the time and that's what I look for even like me I don't like upstairs downstairs homes but not many builders give you the room you need if you don't go up but there was this one builder that that's all they did so I know that I don't want to look at no other homes except from them so that's the reason why I was like make sure you say the name of your builder so people can know what to look for core homes, K-O-R-E homes let me ask you is there, well first of all everything you said is about helping people you keep saying that I want to help people, I want to provide opportunity put people in a position that's what it's all about that's what it's all about when you're an entrepreneur you don't just start one business and stick with that one business okay start it, it can run on its own let me go into something else keep moving go ahead just kind of piggyback on my opportunities I like to be the best at whatever I'm doing if I'm E and I'm doing this podcast it's similar to what he was saying I'm going to be the best at it so I'm not going to have my hands in a whole bunch of other cookie jars I'm going to focus on being the best at it so Amazon that thing is rolling on itself within its own and with this it's rolling pretty good as well so now I'm vituring off and opening this PT clinic with Emmanuel I'm pretty sure it's dope I want to ask about the tequila yeah I know you got something going with the tequila what's the name of it and I'm supposed to be having some here we could have filled this table up I ain't got no sponsorship I need some tequila and I don't drink or nothing you know that I don't drink either I quit drinking in 95 but I stopped drinking what you stopped for how long about a year have you given it up I mean I indulge with some red wine I gave up the hard liquor and this red wine occasionally I indulge it's good for the heart I want to have that tequila I need it to be right here I'm going to put it when you have Barack Obama right here I'm bragging I already had the prime minister I hate him I had him already I'm working with a nice display make it all cute thank you man I just don't know what else to even say my boy here my boy Gabriel Taylor's in the building I'm just trying to figure out if you got something else to say I'm going to get him out of here one more thing because we're having all of the well two more things we're having all these different businesses I just say you don't want to have too many hands in cooking jars and stuff like that do you ever go back I know your wife run one so you don't have to worry about that at all but would you go back to make sure that everybody's doing what they're supposed to be doing because when you're not looking people get ahead of themselves sometimes I always check in I do weekly check in so I'm always there but in the day to day the grit of the business I'm not asking because at the end of the day well the owner of McDonald's you know what I'm saying is he at all McDonald's you have to find someone at the end of the day in business and entrepreneurship you have to find some trust in someone to where they take care of your business and know that it's a team aspect and we're all going to the same go so if you need me I'm here and I'll definitely be checking in but I mean if I'm trying to delegate everything and trying to be focused on things I need to make sure that I trust that person that who's in control with it my problem is I don't ever want a loss but I know that when you think about McDonald's you know people over there taking chicken nuggets and not paying for it and doing stuff but at the same time looking at the bigger picture they're making so much money that the little losses probably don't even matter I mean if I take a loss if I take a loss I take a loss but at the end of the day like man my heart is so big to where if I do take a loss that means somebody crossed me and if you cross me it's a good thing that I figured that out I have one more question before we get to that give me your top three NFL players of all time in our lives yeah she got you Julio, Julio Jones he's your number one he's my number one man I say Julio Jones who else I'm going with people that I play with I'm gonna go Julio Jones I'm gonna go man I go Andrew Hawkins man he'll smile he'll smile while receiving he gonna like this I go Andrew Hawkins I go Andrew Hawkins man and I go me that's a good choice turbo in the building man so we wanted to bless you something to show our token appreciation we got you you got the word add you got the word add you got the word add right there for show you know you got the word add for show man like it ain't no tomorrow like it ain't no tomorrow like it ain't no tomorrow yeah man we just always try to show love man definitely got to show love my boy what's so low lose you say the other night man don't let nobody sit in that seat unless they put the balls talking jog on that's okay yeah that's dope man so hey man we just wanted to try to bless you and also man we are we just always we always started off this thing doing things like we're about to do here with you giving you a plaque that tells you know just just showing you love on the factor that's what we do we love over here man can I come back it's my interview over no no it is get close I got presents I want to come back so we would like to give you this plaque for Taylor Gabriel in recognition for your hard work and dedication in the national football league now becoming an exceptional entrepreneur blessed to have witnessed your journey wow yeah that's it right there we had already got it for you so we love hard over here man you know what I'm saying we love hard man yeah we love hard to be honest with you and that's what's been going on over here ever since we started this platform cause we want to get people they rose it's 2021 because you're supposed to come in but but something happened that was a big deal your friend passed away but thank you so much man we love you Taylor man we always love you you was in our life now for man decades right and we ain't gonna never let you go man it's a lifetime thing over here man ticket man it's been another great segment of boss talk 101 okay Taylor boss talk would love to present you with this award to tell you all the amazing things you've been doing so it says presented to Taylor Gabriel in recognition for your hard work and dedication in the national football league now becoming an exceptional entrepreneur I like to bless to have witnessed your journey hey thank you man we love you man just trying to give you a rose love you too man it's real it's real love ticket man