 But I really don't know anything about politics to be honest with you, and I think that's kind of good Well depends on how stupid I sound. I am afraid of sounding stupid too. I can tell you right now I'm political if this is called video game con. I Would be totally good, but I really don't know anything about politics to be honest with you And I think that's kind of good going into it. Sure. Oh Because it means I probably don't have as much bias as the next guy Yeah, so what's something that motivated you enough to like actually come over here like what do you think is important? Well to be perfectly honest, I actually built my own website and it's political Politically focused at least automatically depends on how stupid I sound. I am afraid of sounding stupid too. I can tell you right now What depends on how stupid I sound? I am afraid of sounding stupid too. I can tell you right now political if this is called video game con I'd be totally good, but I really don't know anything about politics to be honest with you And I think that's kind of good going into it. Sure. Oh There because it means I probably don't have as much bias as the next guy Yeah, so what's something that motivated you enough to like actually come over here? Like what do you think's important? Well to be perfectly honest, I actually built my own website and it's political Politically focused at least at the moment plug it. What is it? It's called chronicles And there's no way you got chronicles calm. No, I sure didn't I had to put a K in there Okay, I tried so hard And no one's using the regular one which is really frustrating spell it out for me So so the second C is a K. Got it. Otherwise spell the normal way perfect, okay But what it the way it works is it's basically a newsfeed in chronological order And you it's community-generated content users come onto the site. Yeah, they Submit their event and it could be any event It's just as an example Donald Trump is elected president of the United States is an event sure it includes any sources that prove the event that kind of verify it This should be verifiable content and a moderator will verify that content clean up the language a little bit to make sure it's as objective as possible I like that it also has hashtags similar to Twitter So you can filter out just to follow events related specifically to Donald Trump or Joe Biden Specific entity that you want to follow. So if I can summarize it's sort of like reddit slash news, but better controlled Better controlled it will eventually be built as a platform like Wikipedia where users can come in and Edit the content make sure it's clear fine Nice, that's the idea and the idea is to be able to build timelines and provide context around information that Represented in the news media or whatever that we don't otherwise get in an article when we're I get what you're doing But why do you think that's important? I think it's important because Because we don't have the content when we get it when we get read a headline as an example It's very emotional, right? We always have an emotional reaction to the things that newspapers got to make that 25 cents Exactly, it's click. Yeah, that's what it is. And that's what these outlets are trying to do and it doesn't matter there It's on all sides, right? I know I have my bias. Oh, yeah, definitely. Same here and the problem I have with that set up is That people react to that emotion without looking at the context behind it And my objective is to provide them that context so that they can look at from now on they get used to the idea of Reading a headline maybe even reading into the article and go okay, but what is this person not telling and very often they Missing a whole lot of information otherwise My website would supplement that would provide that It would just apply context to the headline stories of today we got today with that right So for example, you'd be reading an article on CNN or Fox News. You would click a plug-in That would open up events related to that article that you're reading. Okay, so for example the invasion into Syria from Turkey Okay, let's see a week or a week. Yeah. Yeah I Mean, I don't I don't even honestly have a lot of information on the background. I'm sure sure I have my opinions on it But right, right? It's really uninformed, right? And I think that it would be awesome if I could go to an article on MPR and read through somebody talking about Syria Just to get more information and then have this context to go here's why they make these kind of decisions Here's what they did before here's what these all these different players used to do What's the next best thing aside from your website if you if the goal is I really care about people getting contextual information If they didn't know about your website, where's the next best source for them to get it? Actually, somebody told me something interesting today that they do That I'd know for whatever reason I've never even considered I had I've been talking to people about it trying to get feedback on it asking them to visit the site So they can get some ideas so I can hear what they have this whole time And I asked this guy, where do you get your news? Like how do you advocate? You know, usually somebody does goes to some kind of an aggressor, right? And what he does is if it is US based News or information he's gonna go to a foreign outlet and read that information Oh, that's gonna be a little bit more objective Maybe not all the way but it's a little like BBC like BBC But he won't go to BBC for UK news. He'll go to RT somewhere out right RT or something else, right? And I thought that was an interesting that is interesting because there's always a Country bias of like a right is America the best source of news for what's going on in North Korea, right? Right, and I mean and I think it's to me. It's interesting I mean, I there's there's probably valid reasons why it doesn't work or why it does But the thing I thought was interesting about that concept is that when you are in it Hmm, it's kind of like the fish doesn't that doesn't know that he's in an ocean because that's all he knows Yeah, that's all he's surrounded. Yeah, he doesn't know that's what he's in Yeah, but like you know in the bubble somebody like on the surface of the ocean looking down Understands the concept that somebody I get it. It's just the outsider perspective, right? Hopefully they can be a bit more object for say mention things right person who's reading that from inside of open like air What are you talking about? Oh, maybe there's or even Wikipedia is another good thing But I just don't think that there's really much of anything out there that really gives people the context around the information Can I exhibit my bias? I actually think and please feel free to critique I think what competing is actually Probably the best source of information. It's grown from just the index to a good place to get community-based as Passive information as possible. It's like when 24-hour news cycles like a bomb explodes 600 people are dead. It's on the channel 650 they're dead flip. We actually confirmed only 30 people are dead. Wikipedia is like actually was just 20 Here's the citation right That's the community-generated no ads and and now I'll say this I'm I am I have a love-hate relationship with Wikipedia because I love the concept Yes, absolutely, and I do think that you're gonna get the most accurate information out of it possible But I do the easiest reference information where if it's contentious enough particularly if it's a political figure Yeah, public figure sometimes it's contentious enough. Yeah, and they don't protect that page Yeah, and they don't do it for all. Oh, yes, then it's totally but you have that history section which backs you up So like I'm from academia like I've been science if you want to get a scientific article You have to pay money for every article. Oh, you're out of the school system. I hate that. It's so Infuriating. It's like you just discovered something awesome locked behind $44. It's like I'm not gonna pay for that I don't go to Washington Post in New York Times. It's really crazy I mean, you know other people are writing about what you're writing about but they're not charging me exactly Yeah, and this is like the next level hard-hitting science There should be like a Wikipedia version of science which is you're the latest ideas for the last three years after this I've had that thought of my charger for maybe two at some point or another you got to have that film And I'm just we're on the same way down the road But that'd be something I would for sure I'm gonna look for something to disagree on as just double time Oh, is that what we're doing? Okay. No, no, no. I just uh, just as a thoughtful question Is there any benefit to if I can How about this if I can if I can remove myself from I have my news sources like Chronicle We have my news source like Wikipedia or other as close to fair or at least biased or community-driven news sites possible But then I have entertainment. Do you know what I mean, right? And I like entertainment like I want to watch I don't know any good names Wolf Blitzer, okay, be like I don't even know if you're talking about like news I want like there are people who just like might watch that for like right the Stephen Colbert When he had his own show, right? Yeah, like I just want to be entertained while I watch this was something that sort of thing that falls within my My my own biases, right? That's just makes the news a little more palatable so that I won entertain myself But to maybe learn some things that's going on But I won't take it as seriously if I can like if I can sugarcoat it with the actual real news or at least Don't have to get access for well, I mean, I'll say that a good medium So I'll say that that Information can be dry. There's no doubt about it So there is something that you have to do to To spice it up to draw the attention, yeah, and that's what that's what a lot of these guys do It's what Sean Hannity does Sean Hannity the bow tie guy That's Tucker. Tucker is the bow tie guy. Yeah. Yeah But and there's a bow tie guy, right same with Rachel Maddow Okay, they all they spice up their show to get out the information that they want to get right, right Which fair enough, I mean, I don't criticize that right Like you're trying to sell dog food, right and I think the issue you're trying to address is in terms of playing devil's advocate for chronicles Is that how are you gonna? Have that engagement, right? Yeah, boring information because we already have to see spend we've already got NPR and I think that part of what is required here is a social aspect, right a social media aspect to where you go Create timelines yourself. So eventually there'll be a user base to the platform Well, people will jump in and say, okay Here are the events you should see because I'm making this argument and this is this is the these are the events that support my argument That's essentially what somebody would do Okay, and I think that's how it would spice it up to draw attention to the information So you're not just gonna go through and scroll through every single possible event There is you're gonna follow somebody who's creating timelines because you think he's interesting or you agree with them Is there a possibility that you'll also fall into the same bubble that because you follow the three people who've already kind of agreed Oh, absolutely. There's there's almost no getting around right people are going to do what's going to support their bodies May I confirmation may I make a recommendation if you're controlling this please just make the algorithm be like and here's some crazy Opposite ideas of like or at least a place or a section in the site where it's like the counter We're like this is we know what you are based under your algorithm Here's the exact counter to it or here's a person who's completely counter to you Yeah, just educate yourself with where this guy's coming from right? You might you might find something. That's a no That's a really good. I've something I've considered I'm not sure how that works yet, but it's something I've considered the only thing I've pushed back a little bit of the word algorithm Yeah, because it's just one of those words that like becomes a pop out. I know it's trigger work But you know what I mean, right? I know totally, okay But yeah, appreciate it. What was your name? My name is Ty. Ty max max. I don't think we need to introduce ourselves Really didn't no