 couple of days. So Craig, talk about your experience specifically as it relates to this whole certification program. When did you start? How long did it take? You know what are the what are the hidden costs involved like in other words are there other prerequisites that people should know about that they need to sharpen their skills on? You know start there and then I want to ask you some other questions on how you would advise people but so start with like how did you get started? What did it take? What were some of the complexities? Sure so when you look at the cloud computing architect certification there are a series of prerequisites that are suggested but to actually get the certification you have to take the ISM certification exam as well that's that foundation level certification. I attended the first class that they provided externally for a cloud computing architect certifications. The class was very informative very engaging very interactive. There's a series of booklets that were created for for content as well as scenarios that we worked through during class to look at different architecture solutions around cloud computing data center fill over things from that perspective. But overall it's very strong class our class I think was very intelligent there's a lot of strong background from the individuals in the class so it led for great discussion sessions but the overall course work was very strong it was very supportive as to what we faced for the exam itself overall great class. So start to finish how long did it take you to to go through the program? It was a one-week class, a one-week, four days. Yes a four days? Yeah four days very fast-paced. So total immersion into the subject matter? It really is there's a little introduction and then you get very deep into architecture governance risk management things like this like that. And then when did this take place? This was mid-April I believe. Mid-April? Yes. So if you got a raise yet?