 Big hustle, big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit. It's a unique hustle, nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit. Name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely, amazing, outstanding official, Miss Jamaica. What's going on? None, none. You know my dad will walk on. Hey man, hey man, this man right here, man. I actually met him in Las Vegas, man. We was at the convention, and I walked up on him. He had this big chain on, S-O-D, and I was like, man, what the hell does this do, man? Check it, man. My boy, Punch-O-G is in the building, man, with S-O-D. What's up, what's up, man? What up, world? We here, man, S-O-D Money Gang. S-O-D Money Gang, man, that's crazy. We definitely want to just get all into your business. You know what I'm saying? What you got for? We like to go back before the music, before the comedy, I should say, before everything, as a child growing up, where you're from, your parents, I don't need to know everything. Man, I'm from the south side of Chicago. I'm from 75th King, dry, gotty world. Wow. You know, state to the lake. You know, Chicago, boy, man. You know, Chicago, dangerous. It's really not. Really? Yeah, it's really not. They be trying to get that, to tell people that, cause it's a lot of black excellence in Chicago. So other cities don't see black excellence. But then when you tell people that it's dangerous, it makes people, the tourism, make people not want to come there. They want you not to come to see the, don't see the black excellence. Like, you would go to certain places, they never seen a black man on a skyscraper. You would go to Chicago, a black man on a skyscraper. So you don't have a lot of violence. It's violence, but it's like, everybody I was saying, get killed in Chicago, we already seen them, we already knew it was coming. Oh, okay. You know, because it's so loud and you hear like 32 people got shot or this got shot, you know, I come to realize, man, that real violence is silence. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It ain't that loud, man. But the way people do, they try to make it out, like you said, propaganda and all that. It's something that's going on behind the scene that they're trying to not get you to see. No, they don't want us to see, they don't want to see black ownership, black entrepreneurship, either black ownership. You know, it's a lot of black entrepreneurs in Chicago. Really? So you grew up seeing all of that. Because I know, we've owned a shop for about 15 years and we've seen a lot of young kids grow up, become men and women. And they've always said to us, they love the fact that they saw a couple, a black couple being able to work together to do something good. And it made them feel like it's possible. So you tell me that you saw that a lot around you growing up. Yes, I always seen like just hard working black people, like Chicago for us, it was discovered by a black man. You know, all the other cities were discovered by like a white racist guy. We was discovered by a black French man from Haiti. What's his name? DeSable. Okay. Yeah. That's good. So were you raised with your mom and dad? I was raised with my mom, dad and my grandparents. My grandparents stayed right across the street from each other. My dad stayed next to me. Yeah, I have, you know, people in my life. That's good. Yeah. You know that's rare, right? Yeah. Yeah, but they all gone though. So God bless the dead. God bless you, yes. But, you know, I had that guidance to make me be stronger, be here right now. What's the main thing you've learned, whether from your mom, your dad, grandma, that stuck with you through your journey? Like, you know, don't let your left hand know what you're right in doing, you know. And I ain't everybody business, you know. My daddy used to always say you don't have no friends. So I kind of believed him on that. You know, you always got like one good friend and the rest of them is like, you know, colleagues. But you know, as a kid, when your parents used to tell you things, you hear them but you don't really go by until you have to go through it and you realize what they said is true. So did you ever have to go through that bump to realize? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, your parents ain't gonna tell you nothing wrong. Right. But then you get older, you realize, man, they won't learn. You know, you got to feel it yourself through order to learn. So tell me something that you went through as a child or as a teenager, that with a betrayal or just anything that you went through that you had to learn from that somebody else might be going through it and really, you know, can learn from your experience? I wanted to, I really wanted to key in on like, like being from Chicago, have you ever lost a friend, you know, the gang violence because the gang violence is real up there. Oh yeah, I lost one of my close friends seeing you at high school like a week before prom. Break that down to us. Like what was going on? Like you and your close friend from high school, you know, y'all had plans to hang out the rest of your life. And so was it something while he just was in the wrong place at the wrong time? He's at the wrong place at the wrong time. Him and two other our friends, they was at a park a week before prom and they was chilling at the park and then some dude came up to him, said, you know, start banging on him and then shot out on him and killed him. He got buried in his prom suit. Man, that's crazy. So how was, I mean, how was he had to be about 17? Yeah, how you get a 17? And you guys been knowing each other y'all whole time? Since freshman, yeah. Since freshman in high school. Man, that's crazy, man. How was the city like during the times when you see gang violence, some of the things, whether it be whatever game, maybe, you know, how is it like when you have to go to school and they don't force you into the game? How did you stay out of the game? Or did you stay out of the game? Right? I mean, I was, I'm like a street dude. So I was with people, but I wasn't like selling dope and nothing all that. I was selling watches and jewelry and stuff. I did other things. CDs, movies, socks, face masks, DVDs. That's how I was. That's what I was my husband. But they'll be my friends. And then, you know, them, your homies, they gonna look out for you. They, your neighborhood look out for you. When you in a neighborhood, everybody know everybody. So they know who not to mess with and who to mess with. And then they know, like, they could die if they mess with certain people. They like, oh, they know, like, no, he ain't on that. Do you know what I'm saying? They, your neighborhood gonna look out for you. It was more close together. It was more together. It was at times, like, you know everybody on your block. The whole neighborhood, your whole block, you will know everybody. So, well. Growing up, like, what did you aspire to become? What did you want to become? My mother was a police officer. So I had wanted to be a police officer, too. Did you try out? No, I didn't. But I remember being in seventh grade, though I wanted to be a comedian, too. Oh, really? Yeah. No, I really want no, like, no class clown and then like that. I was silly sometimes, but that really won my M.O., like. Then why a comedian? I don't know, like, you know, comedians, we all go through some type of dark. Some, you know, like I lost my whole immediate family. So right after my mother died, that's how I kinda got into comedy. And how old were you when your mom passed away? I was 29. 29? So, can you say, you lost your whole immediate family. Did they all pass away back to back to back? You know, through the years. Through the years. From 08 to now, yeah, to the 22nd. It's just a way for you to channel all of that into something. Yeah, something positive. Right. Yeah. Okay, that's good. So how was it like going out and actually doing it for the first time? Comedy, I had, yeah, I had, I did like a year of open mics. And then after... In Chicago? No, actually in Vegas. I started comedy in Vegas. Okay. And I did a year of open mics and after the year of open mics, that's when I started doing shows. So I used to be a blue martini regularly. In Vegas, that's one of the big clubs at the time. That was dope. That was my first big show. I wasn't nervous until I got after the set. Why? I don't know. Damn, I just performed in front of like 200 people. So after the set, that's when I started shaking and everything. How was the crowd? Acceptance of the day? They loved me. They loved me. Yeah, they liked. And then my first competition I had won. So when I had won my first competition, I felt like this for me. So did you ever get in the first year for open mic, did you ever get booed? I never been booed before. Never? Never been booed. Wow. Never been booed, but I've never been booed. Same thing, Carlos Miller said he never been booed. So that's a good track record to say. How long have you been actually doing comedy? Four years now, professionally, like four years. Cause I see you on your IG with a whole bunch of people, but let's talk about Soldier Boy for a minute, because you are the only, according to what he said, when he announced it, you're the only comedian that signed to a rap label. Oh, yes. So explain to me how you met Soldier Boy and how did you even end up being the first comedian signed to S.O.D. Money Game? Well, I met Soldier Boy in Vegas and I did it. A lot of people don't know, I did his jewelry. Okay, you did his jewelry. Yeah, I did a lot of his signature, his new signature pieces, the Soldier Boy chain with the gun and the little character, man, that's his face. So you're also a jewelry maker? Yeah, I'm a jewelry maker, yeah. Okay, cool. So I had made that, cause you know, Soldier Jury wasn't looking too good at one time and then after he met me, that's when he was on point. Wow, so, and you met him and you was doing the jewelry and so how do you get into a conversation about, hey man, I wanna sign with you or he signed, or he came into it, you came in, how did that happen? You know, during his jury, we got real close. He was calling me. He calling me at three in the morning and I'm like, damn, Soldier Boy called me then, he got real close then. I got close with one of his artists too. So his artist used to tell him about me too as well. What artist is that? Ben O'Hood trophy. Okay. He used to tell Soldier like, yeah, Pancho G, man, whoa, whoa. Then Soldier just, you know, gravitated towards me. Then after the first piece I had made, he was like, man, you know what, I'm gonna sign you. He knew I was a comedian. He was like, I'm gonna sign you. We gonna make history. So he was like, after I made that first gun piece, that's when he had signed me. Wow. So, and when you, after you made the first gun piece, did you basically, he said, I'm gonna sign you. Yeah. I'm gonna sign you. Because he's saying my work. And he was just like, man, you hilarious. And he was like, let's do something different. So he signed me. Wow. Being that he goes back so far in the history, you know, like the dancing and the stuff that he, you know, you've seen him as you was coming up younger. What, I mean, when you first linked up with him, did you ever think that you and him would be friends at this, you know, you know? Well, I visualized it. I always wanted to be a soldier boy homie for some reason. Are you serious? I was always watching soldier boy before soldier boy really was soldier boy. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You definitely, you definitely, you can't miss when you were a soldier boy. Soldier boy is one of the most phenomenal guys when they come down to reinventing himself. He's one of those guys that you just, you can't, you can't miss. You know, I listened to Snoop Dogg when he said, that nigga don't miss. I mean, you know, that that soldier boy, you know, he don't miss that nigga don't miss. Every time you try to count that nigga out, he like a cat with nine lives. You throw him off the roof. He just keep falling to his feet. He did that's that type of nigga. Like every session, that's what people don't like to, you know, I was so proud of him when I seen him on breakfast club and other people were talking and laughing and all that. But the way the nigga was speaking, you know, far as I heard the hustle in him, you can laugh at one of the nigga worth millions like that. You laughing, but it ain't that funny. You can, you can play games with him, but you can't never little boy him because at the end of the day, his legacy can't be denied. Yeah. And that's the thing. We have revolutionized the game. So now you're going to start seeing other people like, I'm a rapper a lot, but I'm a comedian. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm with OVO, I'm a comedian. And your soldier boys say, I was the first one. Yeah. He's gonna be like I'm the first. Because you know, he like to brag about stuff like that. He's gonna be like I'm the first. That's right. So he know it's coming. He know it's coming. So he like to just be on things early. And when he broke down that Draco thing, the reason why his name was Draco was to Charlemagne. I believe that nigga. Yeah. That's the name. Yeah. Yeah. He said, yeah. And that's what I like about it. The nigga come on. Dracoates. That's his name. So you can't take that away from him. Man, and you know what he then he said, something about he was on that first, you know, on that song that Migos got the one they did from. Oh, yeah. That was his song first. He actually invented drill music, but they ain't gonna give him the credit like that. He was the first one to get on all of them artists from Chicago. He was the first one. He was the first like major rapper to mess with any of them drill artists. Damn, I didn't know that. And he'll let you know that one. He'll let you know. But it's a fact. This Google, he on in the beginning, all them cheap, keep all of them. So he was the first one to be on the hop owner. And he supported it. And famous digs, all them rich, the kid, everybody. I think he said rich kid, you sleep on his couch. Yeah, all them famous. Everybody had to go through hell. Damn, that boy don't miss. I told you that nigga, I got to get that nigga on Boss Talk 101. That nigga got to be on here. I already know what he knows coming though. I saw every time I met him, the nigga was solid. You know what I'm saying? I just love the way the nigga just moved. And that's the thing. He not like that. Like you everybody be like, they're her soldier. Like really, he really a chill person. Yeah, yeah. So I think he just go on, you know, action and then he go crazy. Then it was soon as it go cut. He back to being a rapper. Yeah, yeah. What's the most impactful thing you've learned from him? Uh, I mean, just being, just being a entrepreneur, like being a leader. You know what I'm saying? Like he a real leader. And he's like, he made me more boss than I ever been. You know what I'm saying? So he, I was already a boss, but he made me a bigger boss. Because he's very, because he loves the business aspect of it, because right now he doesn't do music as much as he used to. No, he just got the album out and then he wrote a song about me on that call. I'm so icy. So that was big. OK. Yeah, check that out. I'm so icy. Because I had hooked him up. I did his jury. So he gave me the shout out like, yeah. And you still do his jury today? Yeah, I'm doing. I still do jury today. So I do Vegas custom jury. That's what we do at Vegas. You make more money off of your jury than you do off of your comedy. Yeah, that's what my main answer was. OK. But one day soon, you'll make more money off of comedy. Yeah. What's the biggest event you've done? Uh, I did a few big events, but I probably got to say the Kenan Thompson show. I had did that twice. That was a big show. Kenan Thompson had the first one I did was right before the pandemic. But so it kind of messed up everything. And then I just did one this year, Kenan Thompson. He wasn't at this year, but I still did the show. And that was a big. It was at the LA Comedy Club out there in Las Vegas at the Shreddersfield. So that was. Hello, I want to go back to Soulja Boy. OK, go ahead. I want to go back to Soulja Boy because I seen you on a picture with Soulja Boy. And I know T.I. is into comedy now. And I'm just trying to see because was this the comedy T.I. Or was this the T.I. that wrapped it be like the one that say, you might have seen me in the street. You don't know that old T.I. Which T.I. was it? Was it the T.I. right up here? The one that was on paper. Paper one. That's the that's the reason T.I. So he was the comedian. Oh, OK, OK. I'll break down with T.I. the niggle. And that picture right there. He telling T.I. like T.I. I got a comedian. He said, you doing all this comedy. He like, man, I got a comedian right now. So that gay T.I. The light bulb, like, damn, I'm going to have to sell somebody to ground hustle. So they all see somebody ground hustle. You already know. I'm curious. Why do you think T.I. started doing comedy? Uh, in that bag, you know, you already branded. So it's like they going to pay you anyway, just because of your name. He ain't got to. They can just continue just doing music instead of doing comedy. You know, everybody want to put their foot in everything. You know, they want to get, you know, once you get your name and your brandix established, you down there could be in everything. So you're going to do whatever to get all bags. Yeah, you're right, because his ticket's not cheap at all. Yeah. At all. He come in like he Bernie Mac and he might be the worst person in the room, but he still is. No, but I, you know, I heard, you know, some days he had good days and some days they have bad days. Oh, OK. But we all do. Yeah. That just that's what come with the territory of being a comedian. What type of comedian are you? I'm a trap comic. OK. Yeah. And I'm talking about prostitutes, how these niggas ain't shit. Females ain't shit. We just ain't shit. Yeah, that's it. Together. I got you. I got you. So I just want to, like I said, I definitely want to commend you for being the first comedy, a comic comedian designed to a rapper to a record label, independent record label. Right. And I think that's dope, man, for you to even be able to step up on that podium and be that guy. You know what I'm saying? So who who are some of the comedians that inspired you? Anybody from Chicago, but, you know, Bernie Mac, one of my favorites, Damon Williams, Jess Knees. Like but Robin Harris was one of my favorites, too. So then I got to say Richard because, you know, you know, he for Illinois, you know, Midwest, the Midwest comedians, they pretty much even the St. Louis guys, you know, the Tory brothers, you know, said to entertain all them. So wow. So what you you got a movie that you're in. Let's talk about the movie a little bit. How did you end up even being on this movie? And I'm hearing twist and some more people. And what's the name of the movie? Primary position, primary position. Yeah, I looked that up and and you basically how did you end up even getting a role in that movie? Well, one of my best friends, have no Carlito. He the one who produced and directed this movie. But he got our end up getting the All-Star cast. We got Biggie in there. We got Chris Chris Lofton at like Bart. A lot of Chicago legends in a twister. That's the movie that Chris Lofton was in Chicago. Was it filming in Chicago? Yeah. Yeah. That's where he filming it, because we reached out to him and they said that he was in Chicago filming. So that's the show he filming. Yeah, well, I think he live out, too. So OK, he from Chicago. OK, so yeah, but we got a lot of people that's from the empire, all the Chicago people, people from the shot, you know, a lot of Chicago legends. When I look down your Instagram, I see people like Mike Tyson. I see people like Flavor Flav. I see people like T.I. I see people like Twister. Like you you you constantly dealing. Well, you got what's that other boy, the comedian? I seen T.K. Kirkland. Yeah, me and T.K. Kirkland just a bunch of a litany of people that you are constantly working either around or with, man. How is it to be, you know, in those spaces and how do you stand on those type of stages? Man, you know, just be a different, you know, if I'm around a basketball player, I ain't going to go out to a basketball player and start talking basketball. I'm going to say something else, talk about some music or something. But if I'm around to do that, do music, I probably going to talk about some basketball, you know, because they get tired of listening to the same thing over and over. You know, you go to a rapper or a singer. They like, man, check out my mixtape. That's one thing I had got signed because I was in a rapper. I had to go to soldier and be like, check out my music and all that. You know, saying so. How do you feel about the stand up? And I know you've been in Vegas. You've seen him. He wanted the coldest to do it. I'm going to shot that nigga out of the out of Kansas City, Missouri. They want a baddest comedian you ever want to hit. See, hit the stage. That boy Eddie Griffin. How do you feel about that boy when you see? Have you ever seen him do stand up? Oh, yeah. You're a bad dude. Yeah, I love Eddie Griffin, man. He's a good person, too, and real like, too. Yeah. How was it meeting him? Oh, Eddie showed us a lot of love, man. We was we was at some L.A. It was a big event. He was like, man, come sit next to me. You know what I'm saying? So it was like him and his brother. Well, which one of them give you pointers? Like have have really given you pointers? Like when they seen you, they sit in on something that you were doing stand up on T.K. T.K. He said, man, this here and this that. And T.K. T.K. is is with me all the time. He talks to me all the time. Tell me, this is what you need to do. This is how you need to do it. Him and Damon Williams from Chicago. Damon Williams. OK. So T.K. is and Damon Williams, Spanky Hayes is another person that that's been there and took me under their wing and was like, this is my brother. Make sure you tell. Let's go back to the movie, though. Just give me your role and just give me much as you can about what you do in the movie. Well, Twista and we got a a bodega, a little stove and it's just a one little scene. And we just I have work at the stove. You know, that's it. It's just where I got this stove. Yeah, where I got this stove, man, with Twista. He asked me, you know, you know, it's a little small role. It is. That's what I was about to ask you, was it a small role? But you see me, though. It's like, I'm not, you know, make your presence. No. Yeah. I got that. He got me on one scene as well with my comedy on there. I was just about to. OK, I was about to say, is it a comedy watching TV? But I'm on the TV with my company. So that's dope to release 1111. OK, cool 1111. That's going to that's going to be dope. Reminders of the name. Primary position, primary position, man. Where can I find it? It's gone. I'm not sure what streaming service is going to be on. But I'm you're going to see it. You're going to you're going to know it is coming because it's too many people on that not to know. Right. And, you know, to do Jamal that played big, he on all them with movies. So it's one of them. He's a he's a great actor because that big hero, man, he nailed it. Yeah, man, just dope, dope, dope to be affiliated with all these guys. They don't tell them where you end up because all the opportunity in the doors that can open because of the way that you've laid the foundation for your career, you know, that's the thing that I like about you is that you're building these relationships, genuine relationships because you're out there grinding. Most people think they can get it and it's easy to come by and it's fly by night, man. But I got to tell you something, man, what God have for you. Can't nobody hold it back. And the steps of a good man is all about the Lord. So when I see you walking in your steps, I understand I see the greatness that God has pretty much prepared for you. So you just got to you just got to keep on grinding. That's all you got to do. You know what I'm saying? The way you doing is the way I did. You look at the wall, you see me. I'm the same way, man. I'm always trying to be in the middle of something. I'm always trying to figure out a way to stand on those stages. That's why I asked you, not the stage you stand on when you do comedy. But when you come into the room with these people and when you deal with these elite people who have somewhat established their their their careers and entertainment, how are you standing on that stage to have those conversations? I've often asked myself that and that's why I asked you that today. Yeah, that's what I do, man. It's been different. You got to be different, man. You can't hit them with the same old Okey Doke. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? They get it all the time. These are 10 30 people just hit them with the same Okey Doke. So you got to come different. You got to come different. You know, the check it, man, is in the building. That's what they're going to get when they see ECO. It ain't nothing and it's been the same or two step for me. You know what I'm saying? When you when you are older cat and you trying to figure out ways to be something to where the younger generation can look at you. Because really, I really I'm cool with standing on those stages. But the most important thing is that the people that's watching us do our thing are able to see something in us, the younger generation that they'll be able to look at and keep a steady way in life. I don't need them to aspire to be like me. I want to be better than me. But I want to be one and be able to look at something that's presentable in a way to where they can say, you know what? If he did that, I can do this on a greater level. And that's what I want to do. I want to inspire, you know, young black men, you know, to tell them like you ain't got to be on the street life. It's other things. It's bigger things to do. It's bigger fish to fry. You know, I tell anybody like they come from wherever city you come from, wherever hood you come from, make sure you leave. You know, I come from Chicago, but I had got on in Vegas. So you know, you get, you know, you become somebody once you leave your comfort zone. No, 100. I definitely agree with that. What is it? What did golf mean to you? I've seen you had him on your page. I mean, you what did it mean to you? Or did it touch you a certain way when you found out that he had passed away have been murdered? What did that? Well, how did that affect you? Uh, I love, though, that was one of my favorite rappers. I listen to the dog him and keep going. You know, I actually got to say I've been to a dog concert. So that was dope. You know, it's like being at a Tupac concert. Everybody didn't get a chance to see Tupac and Elvis and all that. So it's like, man, I was able to go to a dog concert. But what's so ironic after all that? Probably two weeks later, that's when I got signed. Wow. So it was crazy. And then, you know, soldiers going through it with them. And it was crazy. Everybody was scared for me. I'll tell you like, man, you part of that. They part of that. You know, I'm like, I ain't got nothing to do with this. You know what I'm saying? But you walk by faith, not by sight. And at the end of the day, you just doing something to establish your career. I just seen you at post in the men and seemed like it was love. Yeah, I love Dolf. He was one of the greatest ever. He wanted the greatest rappers in the ever. Like, you know, a lot of people just be saying Tupac and Biggie just because it sounds good. But in real life, to me, Dolf was the greatest. Wow, that's a big, that's a big, you know, that cause you young. I ain't going to say Dolf, not the greatest, but I am going to say far as this generation, far as this generation to be an independent millionaire and stood on his own to indeed on his own. You can't take nothing from him. That's the thing. You can't take nothing from him. I love. I was I was just talking about him today. Actually, with my wife, I said, you remember, I said, I like Dolf, but I was a big Keyglock fan. Did you remember me saying that? I'm like a whole nigga in here. What was it about five, four or five years ago, three years ago? Listening to Keyglock. I said, baby, put that Keyglock on. And I just rocked out there. That's a shaking. She's like, this nigga is crazy. I love Keyglock. That was one of my favorite. I'm like, this nigga is rapping. Nigga, put that nigga Keyglock in. Let me just, you know, do my thing in here. I'm going to hustle today. You know what I'm saying? Keyglock is that hustling music for me. I go get it when I put that key. Because I, you know, know, you know, I love Nipsey Hustle, but I was more of a Dolf fan than a Nipsey fan. Wow. I didn't get to meet Dolf, but I met Nipsey. So I, and I went to Nipsey's store a lot of times. So I had a different type of a relationship with him because of that, because being a black business on a store on the like himself, we both own stores. He was on Slauson and Crenshaw, mine over here off Elam and Peachtree. So, you know what, and I'm black and my family worked in this store. So it made sense when me and my wife would go up there and shout out to my brother, you know, man, you need to go over there and see Nipsey. And that was after I met him too. I just, I met him, but then years later, I ended up just going to a store. Now I went and got shot and all that. Before all that, I would always frequent that store. Man, just love the fact that you came through and rocked out with us, man. Top three comedians of all time, Dead or Alive, number one. Bernie Mac. Number two. Robin Harris. Number three. Martin Lawrence. Dope, that's Martin Lawrence one, boy. That's the one for me right there. I want to know your top three artists of all time, Dead or Alive, any genre. You talking about, oh, you gotta say soldier. Oh, soldier, greatest rapper ever. You see what I'm saying? You gonna say it too, he put you on. You gonna say it, you know what I'm saying? Number two. Number two, Cameron. That boy Cameron, that pink, you like what that nigga said. That's the deal. That's my homie. Me and Cameron are real close too. Oh yeah? Yeah. How you and Cameron get to know each other? I'ma get that third one though. That was one of my favorite rappers in the world. Like, you know, I believe in a law of attraction. So, man, when I was 14 years old, I was always listening to him and when I turned 25, I got to know him. How did you meet him? I met him at, I used to live in Harlem. And I met one of his close friends, Tito. And Tito was like, man, we gonna come to Chicago. When I come to Chicago, I'ma introduce you to Killer. So, we was in Chicago. We was at a club, he did a show. I was on stage with him. And that was my first time meeting him. And when our first time we met him, we kicked it all night. We went to like, I ain't get home until like 10 in the next morning. So it was like, we got real close down. When I got to Vegas, he got a crib in Vegas. So it was like, then one of his best friends lived in my apartment complex. So it was like, it was meant, you know what I'm saying? So it was like, we was kicking with Cameron all the time. Wow. Man, I just, it's dope the way you explain it and express it, man. You know, the fact that Cameron kill a Cam, kill him. That nigga that was rapping back in the days. Him and Mace was our best friends. And yeah, Mace was, Mace, Mace got fly, fly as hell around that big time, man. That nigga would fly, fly. And did he say he signed to somebody? I don't know who he's just signed to. Was it the death row or something? Oh, Cameron? Mace. Oh, I don't know. He just did something. He be tripping. Mace was taking somebody, he was taking a photogiotto money here too. That's how I know, I know that part. Damn. He took that money. He's like, I'm diddy 2.2. He know exactly what he's doing. He's like, that's how they do it. Now that's the boys in Harlem, right? He gave 5,000. Damn. It was it, that was what he get for his deal. Man, so that's the way, you know, I don't know. How many people can do that? Give 5,000 for a deal and people accept it. You broke. What's deal? If I got 40 dollars in my pocket and somebody say, man, I need, I'm gonna give you 5,000, you lookin' like, hey, let me get this 5,000. Is that the kind of, is that the kind of, Cam, Cam was playing with some paper cam on McDonald's. He did, he still on the McDonald's. A lot of stuff, car wash, burnt can, all type of things. Yeah, that nigga real go get him, man. Cam run. So what's your number three? I say Gucci. Hey, never boy right now with Gucci, man. Get him in there, get him in there. Man, so man, how can people get a hold of you if they trying to reach out? Man, you could just look me up, I'm the only Poncho G in the world, so just Google me, I'm pop straight up. Follow my catch up. Damn, man, I'm Poncho G. I think we got everything. And thank you so much for coming on Boss Talk with us. Thank y'all for inviting me, man. I love y'all, man. Say love you more, bro. Don't do that, bro. It's a love machine over here, man. We met you in Vegas, it was destined to happen. You here now, and so it's going down, man. Holla at your boy, it's a unique hustle, man. And we out. And we out.