 Oh, there's Julianne. Great. Yeah. The keeper, the mistress of the. Whatever. So today is the 14th. So we. I'd like to have a, I guess, call the meeting to order and. Can we have a motion to approve the minutes of the last meeting? I motion to approve them. Good job, Cole. Yeah, that was great and fast. Thank you. If I have a second. I'll second. Thank you. Oh, we need someone to take minutes tonight. Can do that as well. Okay. Thank you, Cole. So we need to do a roll call. So I vote yes, Sandra. Yes. Cole. Yes. Yes. Yes. Robin. Yes. Matt. Yeah. So we're all set. Let's see. I guess we can turn directly to proposals. And I hope someone remembers where we were because. I put it in the email. So application number 400. Wait, four, four, eight, three, one. From. Got it. Oh. Emily's world. Emily's world. That's quite wonderful. Um, Okay. Let me just open my book. So, um, Amherst ballet. I mean, if I think I set out. Last year's, um, Uh, Grants to everybody. So if you looked at that, you'll see Amherst ballet is one of those that we've traditionally funded. And, um, I asked Sydney about it. When she said she couldn't come tonight and she said, she, she dances with Amherst ballet and thinks the world of it and absolutely loves it. So in case anyone's wondering, we have a first person. My grandchildren take ballet there too, as did my daughter years and years ago. Yeah. And my daughter's dance there and I'm on the board. So. Right. That's not really a conflict, I guess, but. No, it's not really a conflict. If we all had to ignore proposals. Because we're members of organizations around the board. We wouldn't be able to discuss anything. Um, So does anyone have any thoughts about, about. This project. Yes, just, I don't know how much because. And it's what we have, but. Definitely. Yeah, you like it. You always. Sometimes there's just no question. Right. Yeah. Um, I think they can probably get some nice press with it being about Emily Dickinson and, you know, the town. It's in, it couldn't be more pointed towards Amherst culture itself and historic culture. So yeah. Yeah. I think we will, I've been trying to, I should do it on paper and not in my mind when I was walking this afternoon, I tried to think. So if we funded. All of the real Amherst core activities. At around $2,000 more or less. Um, that would take $20,000 and I tried to parcel out the other, but just doing it in my mind, which was not bad, but I'm hoping there's some that we can give full funding to. And this would be one of the ones I would like to see, but we can't do that yet until we go through everything. Um, So any other comments about it? So we're all pretty positive. Is anyone seeing their performances other than the grandparents and board members? My sister dance there for a really long time and they have a great, they'd have a really good ballet program, but they also have like this great, like contemporary program. Yeah, they do like really interesting things. Okay. Good. Okay. Um, so we'll see what we can do. Oh dear. We're at Craig's. Well, that one. That one's off, off the thing, right? That's off the thing. I have a quick question about that. I don't understand why it's off considering that she's not the one who actually applied for it, right? Somebody else is applying for a grant. She will be paid through the grant if we approve it, but it's not her project. Um, it is her project. Um, even though she's not on the application. Well, she's on the application as a recipient. Um, she just, um, And we don't even know who Kevin Noonan is. As the contact person. Um, it just seems, I mean. We, we can certainly consider it and we can certainly fund it, but our guidelines say only one. Project per person. Um, I don't know if you can actually get that. It just seems like. She's an artist that's being paid by this other project to do something totally different. Right. She didn't apply for it. And it's not really her idea either. It is her idea. It is her idea. Yeah. No, she's fine with it. I spoke to her about it. And, and even if we don't do it, it's something that, you know, the cultural district might pick up. Um, but it. You know, all of the money in this one and the. Almost the following one go to her and the, and the, uh, commercial. Um, company that she works with. GD, you spoke to her and she chose the senior center. Yeah, that's a permanent, permanent installation. And by the way, there are a lot of questions with Craig's doors. Um, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. She'd have to get. Have people sign off on this. Um, the, the people being photographed. I personally think it's creepy. As a project. If it were first responders in Amherst, I'd say, I'd be. You know. But I think folk. Please speak up people. I mean, I, I, I had problems with it, but I, I had a lot of problems with it. I had a lot of problems with it. I had a lot of problems with it. I had a group of people that I was happy to see. Something for them. But. I don't know the. Details of whether people wanted this, whether she was just going to go in there and try to photograph them. You can't even go inside the facility. I think the permissions piece. Is. Is difficult. Because. If they give permission, do they really truly understand. What all of it's going, you know, the whole project's going to be. Um, I mean, frankly, you might have the same problem. You know, if you're working, you know, in a nursing home with people who don't understand things and, you know, but. If. I think just beyond the permissions thing. And if. You know, she came back to you so quickly. Like, Oh yeah, they're both mine. Okay. I picked. So. Yeah. Yeah. Why, you know, why, why continue to go down that path if there are concerns. Um, We could take a vote. Just to see how you all feel about considering it or not. Considering it. On. Thinking that she's an artist that get funded on two projects, whereas most people don't. I mean, do you want to take a formal vote on this? Can I ask you a question? Sure. Um, Under applicant name, it says. Craig's doors. Right. And then it gives 434 North pleasant street. Is that her address? What? Craig's doors has moved to the Unitarian church. Okay. Yeah, that's what I thought. I thought Craig store had. Wanted this. But it's sounding like that's not so that this is. Her project and she wants to go in there and. I'm not sure what she also wants us to fully fund it, which we can't really do. Maybe it's easier to do a. A vote rather than a lengthy discussion. Okay. So the vote will be. If you vote aye. You're voting to consider both proposals. Okay. And if you vote no. That means that we'll only consider the. One for the senior center, which is a permanent installation, by the way. With full support. From the senior center. So all in favor of considering both proposals. Say I or raise your hand, I guess. One two. I'm not sure. Okay. So against. One, two, one, two, three. Okay. And one abstention. Well, I can be convinced probably all the way, but. Huh. I could probably be convinced other way. I'm just not. Yeah. I. It's just such an underserved community. So I'm not sure this is the way to. I'm not sure that this serves the community. Exactly. I think it, I think it almost. Explain what it does. I'd rather see folks be able to create art of their own. And have an art show or something. Yeah. I think, I think it has the potential to serve the community by. Putting. You know, putting a face on it. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think there's an absence of that now by, by at least putting it in the public light. In some sense, I think that's worth considering. Okay, Matt. I voted no, but not for any. Aesthetic or. Rational based on the project. I just think procedurally, you know, whichever names get put into the application, it sounds like we're pretty clear that these are both her options. I think we should stick with. That's, that's what caught me. And there's another person who also has applied twice. Last year, we could come back to bite us, you know, because people, people would see it and they'd be able to come back later years and say, well, what about that? Yeah. So we do have to be careful. Okay. Right. Point map. Okay. So that's. Yeah. So that's off. Yeah. So that's off. We'll pull that. Okay. So that means no funding at all for this one. No funding at all. She's fine. But we'll do better for her. Senior center. Proposing. I hope. Okay. Okay. Moving right along. Let's see. 19. Okay. So. Is that right? Amherst walks. Amherst walks. 170. Oh yeah. 170. I'm going. Okay. Yes. Amherst walks. And that'll be held at the Hitchcock center. And. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I mean, I mean, they come up a lot. And I had, I haven't studied it closely enough as. Is this their only application as a formal organization? I was wondering the same thing. I believe so. The other. Proposal that we talked about was the. Dear path school. Which is holding a program there. As a venue. Yeah. At the venue. Okay. I just wanted to double check. I just wanted to double check. I just wanted to double check. I just wanted to double check. I just wanted to double check. A couple more that, that included them somehow. But so, so as long as this. This is their only. Proposal. I thought it was strong across all. All areas. I didn't see anything to object to it. Yeah. This is, this is where I get really. Angry at the MCC for not. Somehow giving instructions that. Tell the applicants, if they're an organization. If they're an organization. If they're an organization. If they're an organization. If they're an organization. You think Amelia Thompson is proposing to do this, but it's the Hitchcock center. So. Well, it says applicant type nonprofit organization. Not individual. So. Right. Anyway. I did think the numbers served is that's really low, but it is in Amherst. Right. So that, that to me, you know, as far as funding versus. Full funding partial versus full funding. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. If the numbers are so low, I would be less inclined to fully funded, even though it's not a huge amount, but it's just. It's not right. 40 people is hardly any, but they are going to use this. I guess as the basis for a guidebook. Or something. Yeah. I was. I think 40 is a. Is a low estimate based on the. The longer. In fact, I mean. I will say I really enjoyed many, many of these, but I think it's a good idea. I mean, if you prompted me to go put it something on my calendar and get me on a mailing list. I mean, I think, I think something that is a guided walk of the, of the sites in our town. You know, that has a lot of value and, and. The guidebook type thing being beyond. Yeah. It's also focused on. Accessibility. So there will be people who wouldn't. Really be able to. You know, be able to fund it. Or at least comfortable. Comfortably. And it's science. We don't have a lot of so. Right. Yeah. I think this. I'm a client. Because it's not very much money to. Fund it as much as we can. I think, yeah, I think we, we probably can fund it. Fully. Although with the understanding that it's a small number of people, but it's. But the field guide will be. Available to more people. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Probably next year, they'll ask us for money to publish. That's next year. Just kidding. Just kidding. Yeah. I noticed there was no money for that. So that is a, but that's a legitimate. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think it's, it will have a larger impact. And once they get, I mean, I've walked out on their properties and it's not. It's not a great sign yet or arrows or anything. And this will really force them into doing that. And that'll be good. I went with a group of women my age and. We ended up going around in circles and it was like zero degrees out. There'd been a cold morning. This is last winter. But we got out. All right. No one froze. Okay. Arcadia players 31st season. They're asking for $2,000. They perform and Amherst in part. They kind of move around a little bit, but. Their concerts are fabulous. And they've done. The past Christmas season, they released a film of last year's Messiah, which they fortunately had made. Marketing, the marketing expenses look high to me. Yeah. Are they not included at all in the live from sanctuary. Application we looked at earlier. I guess they're getting live from. Sanctuary is doing a fundraiser for them. I believe. Yeah, I think that's great. Yeah. I think they're in a tricky place. They don't know if they're. What their season will really look like, but they're doing their best. Marketing. I see marketing. They often, they, they do. Usually they don't, they publish a program book. With advertising in it. I mean that. Yeah. Under there, how are you planning to promote the project? They have like a lot of different things. They want to like send press releases. To a bunch of different towns. Right. Yeah. I mean, like, there's a lot there, but a lot of it's like. Email, social media, YouTube. Things that don't cost anything. So I'm just saying, like, I guess like what it boils down to is I'm in favor of funding it, but not fully. And that's kind of my. I haven't funded them fully in the past. Okay. Yeah. I mean, they certainly deserve support. And. So we will figure out. Numbers. They asked for. Last year, I think we gave them a thousand. We're probably happy with. So the next one is Isabella. The Lola's other project becoming. I mean, photography. And she's asking for 1500. Question I had here. Was considering. You know, that. That there isn't some sort of. A virtual version of this. Like how easy would it be to put a slide show together for people who don't feel that they can get out and who've been part of the community. Who'd like to see those faces. We don't require that. You mean the senior center murals. Yeah. Yeah. Because I think there's a lot of. People who can't get out. You know, They'll be up for a very long time. And I mean, I. Dispect that when they go up, they'll be very good press. And people will see it that way. I think. So it's one of the photos that she did because I'm not. Terribly happy with. The photo. Representing the senior center. So. Which may not matter what I think, but I just think there's a little bit strange. In some ways. Yeah, that one of Nina Scott is scary. I wouldn't want to. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I just went by the low and then there's. Yeah. They just weird. And I liked the first one, but it's kids. It's kids interacting with a senior citizen. You know, I think the content is for the senior center. I don't think that's right. Yes. Yeah. I'm. I'm pretty. Pretty strongly the favor of funding this one. Yeah. I mean, even if I'm like, not particularly nothing, I am, I'm not like, not a, you know, a fan of the, the style of art, I guess, like, I don't feel like it's up to me to like judge the artistic merit of somebody that I'm funding. If it's like, you know, if it is an art project, which I think it is. I think it'll be, I think it'll be kind of neat. I mean, I'm not a fan of the, the style of art. Kind of rehab to the senior center, which kind of needs it. This big public space is pretty drab and dreary as I remember it. So. This will spruce it up considerably. Do you know when this would go up because I feel like if they do this and there's a huge thing it's like, anything on installation until post COVID restrictions are removed. The public buildings are pretty much closed except, I mean, the senior center is open. That's where they're giving the vaccines for the pandemic, for the virus. I think that's the only reason the senior center is open right now. You can pick up food, but you grab it apparently. And otherwise, yeah. I mean, it's like the library will be closed. Certainly. Probably through the spring. Cindy. So. And the town hall is still closed. So I don't think they can get in to do any work. On the installation. I could be wrong on that. I don't. No. I don't think that's going to happen. I don't think that's going to happen. I mean, he says spring 2021. I mean, that could be. It'll happen. Dumb question. Is the senior center and the bang center the same thing? Okay. Cause did we have a conversation last year about that center and saying that yes, it was mostly used by seniors, but that it. The bang center, which wasn't exclusively. Seniors. I'm sorry to reconcile this in my head. It's the bank center. I thought the bank center was the whole building. And the senior center was. Okay. Thank you. But I'm not sure. Okay. Yeah. There's a health clinic there that was put together. That's right. The senior center is in the bank center. And then the bank center is the whole building. Thank you. Okay. So this is for one of the big public. So we're saying yes, but. Yes. We'll try to do the whole thing. We'll see how it works out. Be nice if we could. Abigail Weaver. Theater between addresses. Plague wedding. And it will be done via. Anything about this facility? You know anything about this pine box? Anybody. Oh. Excuse me. Pine box. Yeah. It's a space in East Hampton. That can be rented out. Yeah. I'm going to get a couple of rehearsals there. Okay. Okay. It's not. I mean, it's not like an organization or anything. It's. It's the studio. It says in St. Florence. Right. Well, it's a studio space for them to do the recording. Florence is a village of North Hampton. Yeah. I actually went and watched some of the clips. On this and I didn't find them to be very. Well organized or. Coherent. I don't know. I'm sorry. What wasn't very organized. I watched some of the clips that they had included in their. There's a page of. Listen to our first audio drama. And watch the premiere of the canary. So I watched some of that stuff. And I just, I didn't. Didn't really hold together for me. I think. You know, which I mean past performance doesn't always predict future success, but I. I wasn't super into that. And then. Although this is happening virtually, I think it's, it's sort of a, it's a live North Hampton event that's, you know, that's being. Turned into something virtual. So. If the council wanted to partially fund it, I could support it, but I could also think, I think we could also pass on it as well. Yeah. I had some concerns about. You know, the relevance to Amherst, the, the one tie to Amherst is there's a costumer. You know, who happens to be an Amherst resident, but aside from that, it didn't have strong ties and, you know, you can make the case that anything that's offered virtually anywhere on the planet could be seen by an Amherst resident, you know, so. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like we haven't applied that same logic to other. Other virtual performances, like some of the. Was it the live from sanctuary was in North Hampton? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if any of them from past years that we, we know that they have a following of people in Amherst, who would go there physically in person. You know, and that, that doesn't mean. Just because we don't know for another group. You know, I get your point, but. Yeah, I thought thematically at least this seemed like a cool project. It's ambitious. And I don't know if people are getting even the title. You know, she's trying to tie in all sorts of other themes here. Warsaw ghetto, she's trying to tie in all sorts of stuff, which is interesting. I'm just not sure she can pull it off. This seems very ambitious producer has a lot of experience. Yeah. Yeah, I'd like to help them try to pull it off. I mean, I think we can give them some money. I don't think we should. By any means. You know, maybe not 2000, but certainly. Will we be able to. Access this. Well, it's unclear to me whether it's going to be. They would like to be able to charge for it. If it weren't virtual. You'd have to pay for it. I think that it's theater. It seems like it will be live streamed regardless of whether or not they also have it in person unless I'm getting that wrong. Right. Reaccess to film. Yeah. I think the final form is. Not even necessarily live stream, right? I think, isn't it? Oh, no, it's live stream, but I guess the intended form is really, is really virtual with a possibility for in purpose. So. When it's live stream, will we in Amherst be able to. I don't know how they could impose something that would say people in Amherst couldn't watch it. No, I don't mean that. Sometimes. You know, we can't pick up. How well, I guess maybe I'm thinking something. I mean, sometimes there've been radio shows and we can't get them in. In Amherst and there's been town access that. There's been a lot of things have been. Produced on that we can't pick up in Amherst. And I'm wondering if it says Northampton open media. Yeah. I mean, if it's a live stream, I think that would imply digital. Now, I mean, I could be wrong, but I don't think there'd be like a spatial limitation on that. Most all radio stations tend to have. You know, a website where you can. Yeah. Hopefully now. So. I mean, I would say. We, you know, my freezing again. Yeah. Can you hear me now? Yeah. I feel like, you know, we certainly can, can partially fund it. But I would say before we come back around with final numbers, if others would check out some of these links too, I don't want to be the only one sort of griping. And I didn't watch everything altogether, but the few things that I did dip into it. Gave me a little bit of concern as to the ability to, you know, as, as I think Sandra said, pull off a pretty ambitious project. Okay. Well, let's, we should. Yeah. I think it's a good idea. On my sheet, I put down, you know, 500 towards their proposal. I did as well. You know, that's, that's nice. Yeah. Yeah. Um, they do some really nice programs. This is a couple of interesting ones. They prefer to hold them in person. Last summer they had webinars and I went to one of them. And I was just really blown away by how terrific it was. It was Al Gore's daughter. Giving a wonderful presentation. Completely pulled together the economy, the pandemic and racial inequities. And she was brilliant. They really seem to work to get some heavy hitters and some, some really unique perspectives. I mean, clearly there's always the, the dunk against them that they're not in embers, but. You know, with, with the ability to access virtually, they're more accessible than ever. Yeah. Well, I think the spirit. I almost, the spirit of coming in for $200 for, from all the Valley cultural councils, I think really captures, you know, a nice sort of regional approach. So I, I mean, I, I can't see any reason to hesitate on, on this one. Yeah. Yeah. Like partial. Full. Full to. Big spender. The next proposal I, I. I have problems with because it's for the January of 2022. Is that in, don't we have 18 months? Yeah. But that begins six months ago. Gotcha. So it's not actually in this funding round. It's the, no, it would, this would be the next funding round. And I sent Mina a note and never got an answer. Asking her if the. In 18 months is there, but where, when does it begin? And when does it end? And she never got back to me. Yeah. Somebody, I mean, what's her name? Rothenburg always puts in a grant. And so someone, and she always puts down capital expenses. Somebody should tell her. Well, these are just for tickets for kids. No, no, but she always lists a number for capital expenses, which we do not allowed. Well, we don't. I mean, I mean, I had, I, she actually lives not far from me. And she was one of the first people I met. When I was walking around one day and she was lovely. She invited me. I like her. I dealt with her a lot, but it's just, I don't think he understands what capital expenses means. This whole electronic format. One time I had to, when she first did one, I really had to walk her. Through it. She doesn't really need to even give the whole budget. What you want is a thousand dollars for a hundred tickets. For kids. But it's, it's printed. I mean, that's the application grant. She didn't say, you know, I don't think she understands what capital expenses means. I mean, that's the application grant. She didn't say, and capital expenses, expenditures, it's actually in there. Yeah. So she just filled it in, I guess. I mean, we could, we can tell her that she may not use the thousand we give her towards capital expenditure if you felt necessary, but I'm, I'm more worried about Gigi's the, the time. I mean, is there any, I mean, is there any work around on that issue? I don't know if there is any work or what she is what the. This is really the friends of the Amherst leisure services community theater. It's not even a grant of. The fear. I mean, it's anyway, yeah well, it's, I mean, it's a lovely. I think it's lovely, but, you know, if it's outside of the grant timeline. What's what I, So that's my only concern that if, if there was a delay in the grant cycle again, then, you know, and it happened now and the things supposed to be in January, then she wouldn't be able to secure funding at all. Right. Yes, she could, because we can fund projects that take place before we consider, but they wouldn't know that they had that money. Is it possible that dates just a mistake? I mean, I think at this point we could discuss and discuss, but we really need her to get back to us. Right. Yeah, I'd like to just give her the opportunity to respond and correct. Give it to us either in a date format that actually works for us to be able to fund it. I mean, say she gets the grant to buy tickets in December for the show that will be in January. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, last year was let her know. As soon as we met and as soon, well, I better know as soon as the council did the final vote, I called her up and said Barbara, you'll get your letter in a week, but I want you to know this is what we've done and that was fine. That was, yeah, last year they did Matilda at Bowker. It was a great show. Yeah. And the next one is Oh, Shoshana King. Without having any background on this, I mean, given the town's priorities around racial justice. I think we have, unless anybody has a clear reason that we can't fund this I don't see any way we can't fund it. I totally agree with you. Yeah, I think we need to fund it. I did have a couple of questions and I think some of this just comes from folks and experience, you know, and then this format is kind of tough so for instance, isn't the entertainment expense noted the same as a siphon. Perhaps, or is that different? Oh, I think I think it that intends to be a stipend of sorts for artists to come in. I think so. Okay. And it might just help, you know, to get there, it cleaned up so it's listed as a stipend and I, I'd like to see more more marketing. And I think they said they're going to send some letters and emails, you know, and the numbers are pretty low at 60 I think this should, it should be much bigger, you know, a lot more than 60. But I don't know what a built-in audience is. People who know them and know their work and, and I think it's much more than 60. I mean, I also like what. Yeah, I mean, that would be my thing. I think the community really needs this and I think I'd like to fully fund it. But, you know, I'd like to see it bigger and not just taken for granted that the community that they already know would be involved but that'd be a larger thing that can be a little bit more transformative for us. I feel like, I was going to say, I feel like they're really trying to reach, like, really just like people of color, I think is the, like, main demographic that they're really trying to reach for this event. So I don't know, like, like I feel like the kind of marketing they're wanting to do is like super specific. And I don't know, like, I don't know, it's like, they want it to be like an event that's like a huge like town thing or a war of like an event that really like centers. I keep looking to our young members. Is this, would this be an event that you know, either of you would be willing to know anything about this. I actually don't. But like, since I've now heard about it, I'm mostly going to go ask my mom if I can go and probably tell my friends about it. So, and they'll probably want to go too. Yeah, I would say 60. I would think this is this might be an event that could well be publicized in the schools, for example, June 19 though you're out of school by then. You know, just borderline. Yeah. So it could be marketed a bit and that's something that, you know, the three of you could do maybe in the spring is, you know, make a note and try to get in contact with Demetria. I'm not seeing this, the specific location for it. Yeah, I think I had that question to how a lot of work to do. Like, I'm confused too. I wonder also what this is and where for how we go to with it or participate in. I was kind of visualizing and this is, you know, not, I was kind of visualizing it on one of the commons, either the south or the north common with a, you know, you small soundstage and physical entertainment, maybe. Maybe they need 600. As far as money, I mean, I think their budget probably isn't big enough. People. Yeah. You know, sometimes we go back to applicants and, and, you know, like the one before you haven't given us a date format for us to approve this. I mean, I think we can all agree that speaking too strongly that we'd like to just fully fund this, right? But I sent an opportunity here where this applicant could really use some help because it absolutely lacks structure, lacks location. And in this case, if we went back and pushed back and asked them to clean up this application, it might actually move it towards being more successful. It might help it to be real enough to them, you know, to line up the location. To give them a little incentive. And, you know, also a sounding board that they haven't had previously. That makes sense to me. I just want to put in that they've had this Juneteenth celebration for years now. This is not a new thing. Wow. It's I mean it's the first time it's been an official holiday but I mean, it's been years like this last year was virtual obviously but I mean before that it's been. I mean, it's a it's a big event. I mean, like, I know all over the country but has it been happening here in Amherst. That's what I mean it's been, it's been an event here in Amherst for years. And where, where at the library. Like so two years ago it started at the town hall. They had a procession to the library the big event at the library there was food there was a movie there was a display of things from special collections. So, I mean it's a big deal. Thank you for that. I think that's what they're talking about with this built in audiences they have people who they have. Okay, I mean, and but they're I think there were more than 60 people who came to that. And that's why I think maybe it's a typo and I meant 600. Oh, there weren't 600 people there either so. But I mean, also, if you look at the folks involved, they're all well known people so. Yeah, downplayed to 60 because of COVID. Yeah, because it's I just don't know if like, like the beginning of June, like if 600 people could realistically, even if it's outside. Let's hope I will call Shoshone and see if I can get an answer about where it's going to be held and ask her again about the numbers. What else would you like to know. We also would want the application fixed so that entertainment is stipend just to be. That's, that's not. She says there's entertainment. I can check. So, make sure that entertainment and stipends are the same. Well, that's what it is. And then equals stipends. Yeah. I mean, it would be nice to see more marketing happen. Maybe there is more marketing going on with it than what they're listing. It's a pretty strong connection. I mean, the. Through the Africa studies at UMass. I mean, that's a great contact in terms of getting audience. Okay. The next one's easy. Seven hours. Last year we, I guess in previous years we $100 on the off chance that maybe two people from Amherst would wander over to Worthington. And then last year we finally pulled the plug and didn't fund them. And it's, it's troublesome to me, although it takes place here the principal people in it live in New York. Don't believe that they really live in New York and not Worthington. I mean, that's a summer residence. The artists are all New York. And they're very fine musicians, but it really has very good to do with this community. The closest it got to being local that I could see was the South Hadley. Was it nursing home? Elaine Manor and South Hadley. Are you confusing them with Mara? Pretty much send in the same application every year. This year is the virtual thing or. Oh, right. To me. And then we're back to the same thing as with everybody else. The virtual element is hard. We hope will help to enrich the class of our virtual component. I think, I think they may be in the same boat as many of us. I mean, so the letter on letterhead on 239 talks about resuming their live performances. But I picked up, you know, the concession that there's a very good chance it'll be virtual as well. But Gigi to your initial point. I had no objection to the group, but I didn't see the Amherst, the value to the Amherst community. I just, yeah. I mean, I think we need to support our role. And there's also a comment in there that implies that. We've never heard classical music before. So, um, no, unless I hear. To the contrary, I think we should drop them. The towns are just like an alphabetical order. The theory, isn't it? And I can't imagine that. That's a very wealthy area of the Berkshires. And then the other, the other thing is that. They have a facility that gets the has to pay local property tax. That I can't understand that they can't get. To recognize that they were tax exempt organization. But that's. There, they're incorporated. Is that the problem? I don't know. I don't know the ins and outs, but it's. I'm not arguing for them. Why the town. I'm really excited to hear the discussion of the next one. Yeah. The next one. No funding. I know how, how I responded to it, but I'm very intrigued just to hear how others. That was about the poetic dialogue. I was so excited about this one. Because classic. Maintaining our art should, should, you know, our public art should be a first priority. And it looks like an individual. Saw the need, went out, applied for the grant, found the talent. Wow. We're. We're on the. Amherst public art commission. For risk or the poetic dialogue. Okay. I think it's no brainer, but, you know, Well, I just have a question is. The town doesn't pay to keep up its parks. No, it does. My husband's on the public arts commission. So fair disclosure. I know far too much. Okay. They do not have a budget line from the public art commission. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Fair disclosure. I know far too much. Okay. They do not have a budget line from the town. How. Did they raise fun? Wow. Well, they're. Well, they're coming to us for this project. They've got some, they do have some free labor from the town embedded in this project. Yeah. It seems very low. Actually. They don't raise money. I mean, it's something that my husband and I talk about. You know, why don't we. The idea that I had, or maybe it came up out of this group, but you know, basically a check off on our tax bills. I'd like to contribute $2 this quarter for this. Semi-annual period on my property tax. That would raise. Can I. Can I be provocative for a second? Because I mean, my reaction, of course, is that this has to have, I mean, this is certainly a project that must happen. Right. But I, you know, I was pretty conflicted by the notion that, you know, one Amherst public body would have to come to another in this way to get a fairly small amount of funding for, let's say as a national historical, you know, a fairly, a fairly high profile thing. And I, you know, I'm not saying I want to do it, but I just, I feel like a rejection of this. That says that it's the town's obligation to fund its, its public works would be as a bit of a statement. And I'm not saying that we should do it, but, but it is a little shocking to me that, you know, that the APAC has to come begging to us for, for funds or something like this. I guess it's all put in perspective when you realize that Fort River school is sinking into like a swamp like existence, you know, and we didn't even take care of that. So if, you know, yes, the town absolutely should take care of this. I'm shocked that they haven't and yet knowing the history of so much in this town, the reality is, is there would be other things that are far more important to fund immediately. And if we can do this and it's a reasonable budget, we should, but you know, it needs to change at a larger scale. I agree. Yeah. Well, or even, I mean, our money is all coming from the state, you know, this is not Amherst money in any way. It's the state money that's being funneled through. And so, I mean, you could take a couple of days and find a couple of donors and you could run a donors choose and pay for this thing. You know, I support paying for, we should fund it, but I'm just being a little bit of cantankerous right now. Cause I think it's kind of a ridiculous. I totally agree. Yeah. I remember, I remember the day like me and my mom were driving past it and she was like, did you hear like, and think is that like someone just like, like something, I forget exactly what happened, but it was just like really sad because it was such a great thing like in the middle of town. It's just like really bad that people would do that. Yeah. Somebody broke into my car right outside of there too, actually. Yeah. So if we clean this up, then people wouldn't break into your car there. It's that. Sorry about that. We got your back. A lot of it is donated because it seemed like. No, not a lot. Only the landscaping the town will do. And working. I think it was $1,200 to do that seems very low. Well, they got a quote from this person who's doing it. I mean, yeah, I know maybe he's really lowering his. That it takes some time and a lot of work and he needs a lot of supplies. No, I think it's a low amount. I think. I can't believe it's not a lot more. 1400. You know, we're not really to question the accuracy of the budgets. This is. Yeah. I agree. I think we need to fund it. Great. Okay. Yeah, what a mess that is. Okay, let's go on to the next one. Musical. What was the final. What was the final. Fully. Okay. Yep. Thank you. Yeah. Anyone else hear that? Yeah. Okay. It sounds like it's. Playing us. They're recording that's going on. Oh. We're recording us. Okay. Oh dear. So musical the musical. I know one of the. One of the like student leaders. I have a like mutual friend with her and she does dance and they seem like. Just like, like, she's always been like really nice and. Like seems to really have, even though it's led by kids, I feel like they do have a drive and the art they create is like really interesting. Yeah. I mean, to seek funding through a. You know, a council of like, that's more than I would ever be ambitious enough to do as a teenager. So. I believe they have. A lot of ambition. I think it's fabulous. It's not part of their curriculum. They just happen to be associated with it. Or is it something they're doing? I think it's something they're doing on top of their normal curriculum. As far as. I know. The Frank Newton, who's head of the. Jenny. Lynn spoke to me about this this evening when we chatted on the phone earlier rather and. Frank Newton's letter from the performing arts school is, you know, really strong and he believes that these kids can do it. And. I don't think it's part of the school. Program. I think even if the musical itself is part of curriculum. It is something totally different. I think even if they came to us saying we wrote this already, we want to just record it. I think it would still be worth it. Yeah. Yeah. What are they asking for again? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. And I think, I mean, I just really impressed that students would go to this. Make this effort. To support their work. A lot of wholesome proposals. I like that. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Did anyone question them about outdoor performances and late winter? Yeah. That's how you get pneumonia, isn't it? They'll figure it out. They'll figure it out. So we're saying yes and. If we can do it. If not two thirds, you know, we'll get as close as we can. Did anyone look at their music samples? I tried. I couldn't get anything to load. Yeah. Okay. Me as well. Yeah. I love everything about it, but I. So if Leah knows some of these folks, like that, that actually makes me feel better. Cause I was, there's, my only reservation was, is this something that the, you know, the teacher has sort of put together. Package written up and submitted, but. Especially because I couldn't check out the music. But I should, I'll go back and maybe, I'll go to the music box. I think the links are broken. I don't think they work. Not yet. Yeah. They did it themselves. I mean, I'm sure they had. Some guidance. But that alone, I think we're supporting. in the last four or five years have gone to you know like most of the student performances and they just are mind-blowing and when they get back on stage if you see a performance they do a big musical every year it's as well staged as New York shows and the young people who are singing have absolutely almost always brilliant voices once in a while you know they'll be particularly sadly a male lead whose voice isn't a female lead's voice but you know really there's extraordinary and the the musicians in the little band that Frank Newton I mean that's just it's fantastic okay i'm good i'm i'm sold okay um okay great barrington massachusetts isn't that just on the other side of the connecticut river this um i would love to go to it it looks amazing but it doesn't what does it have to do with us it has nothing to do with amherst but it looks fantastic yeah like it seems like a cool project but like i can't like i couldn't find a way to spin it to like find the public benefit for amherst especially now how far away would this take place pitsfield so hour and 20 25 minutes maybe it's like Boston yeah at the end of the turnpike and head west it's close to no no it's more than an hour 20 minutes you can i've made the trip from amherst to pitsfield many times many many yeah all my families from there actually then yeah sorry i know i mean it's it's not a cash you know i don't know there are many many other local councils much closer and those are the ones they should be i mean why they picked us you know we're the they north hampton and amherst um i i've often wondered that too but you know not not greenfield not um anyway not everything around them greenfield's even farther i think yeah i think it's still yeah because it's anyway i'd like i think denying it is sensible on the grounds that it is pretty far removed from where we are no benefit to us i mean we'd love to go to it if it happens yeah okay is that all right with everybody yep okay speak now or forever hold your thing so in the letter that gets sent to me i know that's pretty much a form thing but it is it possible to add something you know it would reject it because it wasn't an amherst much as we would welcome oh no that it's a very formal thing and that's exactly what gets cited but we last year there was someone we would welcome from cambridge who wanted money to perform like in north hampton and i wrote him and said we love your project why you know please resubmit next year and bring it here form in our backyard you know yeah um can i ask you a question just i mean we're close to not well getting close to halfway through or about halfway through when we do you know we do a first pass through and get a sense of things are we then going to try to have quick additional discussion on the final allocations when we do the second run through or how do you see that yeah yeah what we've done in the past but didn't do this time because it didn't seem practical was actually kind of a sign in our minds and down on paper a half a third two thirds whatever um i'll take a look at julianne's spreadsheet and the comments and you know try uh i might sit down some time over the weekend and see if i can come up with some ideas that'll give us a sense of how we're doing um but we have to go through them all once and then we'll then we'll have to pretty quickly say okay we've got you know 40 i think we'll have around 45 000 to spend total here are 10 projects that we want to fund fully do that we'll take that money off the table and then divvy up um the others and you know basically it's half for a lot of them right and that's and then two thirds for a few well there's a lot where a lot of large ones we said no yeah yeah so we're doing we're doing fine um um on the average page where lots of folks that put scores in but not as many people have have put some sort of a suggested potential grant amount so if anybody's looking at the excel sheet that i sent out um don't put too much weight in store on what's been put there for a proposed suggested grant as an average okay um i mean i just i was just curious about the process thank you yep no problem um let's see where are we uh emphasis right got it so target audience seven to 12 years old did people think that's reasonable what do people think about this i was kind of i feel like if you're having like conversations about like climate change or race like the conversations seven year olds are going to be having are going to be like very very different than conversations 12 year olds will be like i because that's like my siblings are basically about that age and it's like i don't know it just feels like i don't know you like sort of like not like sugar coat but like with seven year olds they're gonna need to be sort of like you're gonna be like gentler with them when you talk about like scarier things yeah like the way that i read it i could have read it wrong but i didn't think they were gonna necessarily like talk about those subjects i thought they were gonna i thought they were using that like kind of like examples i guess but then i i felt like the point was just to talk about like empathy to children more broadly which i'm that's a good thing i think by the time you said it's kind of too late you either have it or you don't i i had a lot of concerns about it from feasibility and others but you know it's a relatively small amount and and i'm not usually somebody that's swayed by testimonials but i thought the testimonial emails that they included from parents at the end that that made me say for this amount of money and for this general good intentions i i would have no trouble you know i would support funding this yeah totally like the letters from the parents pointed me in a in a different direction which is it seems like they're kind of a a day camp type business right yeah yeah and and they're based in Hadley and i wanted to know how this particular thing is different from their other fee based camp programs that they're already running and why they didn't apply to any other LLCs like Hadley and for the 100 children served is that 100 kids who all get to be in this camp that one specific week at no cost um i just had a lot of questions yeah no i i agree um but i thought it was free for the participants i worked for the kids but volunteer contributions and people pay as they can um and you know a thousand person mailing list on their on their email groups i mean i agree it wasn't it's not the most you know i don't know uh logistically tight but how's it different from what they're offering otherwise but i just couldn't figure out i think i think these others either paid tuition or they either went through the school like come back to the Fort River community or people paid to participate and i think they want to give this away to these hundred kids i i know uh about Catalina Arrubla she did a lot of um exhibitions at the Germans library in our you know our big space and um i i would like to fully fund it really she's um one reason she's applied to Amherst i think is that she is tied into the Amherst community she's definitely definitely a member of the um governing committee for the cultural district for example um it's like a really busy creative oh that's who this is yeah right did you get that yeah the completeness that that was so let's um gives a lot of perspective multi arts is based at i think that's is that Fort River but that's like a huge Amherst program that i actually went to him was really great it was like i i don't know how i miss this but it was like multi arts was this like camp and they it was like kind of like family owned and they had like just like they had a lot of really interesting things like the art style was really interesting they did like flamenco dancing which i never like experienced anywhere else and it was just it was really fun and i know a lot of kids really liked it and they definitely have like a following of people who go there well that helps because i didn't i i didn't even know it was in Amherst yeah and i feel like i was thinking about the like seven to twelve and with the with the multi arts they probably did that but like divided the kids up like through different classrooms so i don't know i feel like now that it was it is like a really is because it says the only time multi arts is mentioned is like the applicant name so i don't know if it's like through that thing yeah because well the other the other piece that i think is kind of neat about this is you know whereas everybody else is kind of like yeah we're gonna do something totally different using zoom or whatever and we're making like i feel like this person is really owning embracing the medium and this very last letter talks about how you know multi arts has been running things on zoom since april and and that they really understand the cognitive i mean it actually seems like and believe me you know seeing kids in online learning it's it's no small feat to make progress with them you know and so i feel like somebody who's got a little bit of a track record on that like the parents all seem to love it you know i know i feel like it's a slam dunk especially if folks have know her you know yeah okay yeah all right she was a great educator okay doggie oh yeah this one this one yeah creative entrepreneurs outspoken ceo i what is that does anyone know lauren mills no i i don't even know what it was i read i really it mentions a permanent installation but doesn't tell us where that would be right it could be on the view i don't know but i love that um i have the same question it's like but where has it even been arranged this is the one that yeah the people doing the collage visual arts well i'm not sure it's a collage um they have to be students and it was going to be someplace a permanent installation there's no letter from these schools interacting with these from our local schools like i don't think kids are going to even be in schools for a long time this journey we're not able it says monica cage form commitment but i'm not sure what that even yeah it doesn't say who monica cages i know so other individuals that will be involved in the project the others are potential i mean it's i have the same thing like but what is this yeah there's a $700 budget for marketing and they're going to do some emails and letters um it's but you don't understand it without some some sort of endorsement from the schools when the schools are named that bothers me right especially with such a big stipend if if we're i mean if we're moving towards a rejection of this one i would encourage them to reapply with more demonstration of their partnership and what they're intending to do because i i mean i think a lot of the very generic descriptions are the kinds of things that we would like to fund if there was any you know and and they may and it may be that they're getting denied for something that they in fact are going to do you know like they may have had these they just didn't know to get letters of of recommendation and things um so but i but i can't see any way we would fund it as as written yeah i think it's way too vague and they also talk about a field trip but they don't say where or how to get there yeah and if it was in this school then the field trip component wouldn't really make sense unless it was you know the kids from crocker farm go to fort river for the field trip that would be a disappointing field trip yeah that feels like a lot for i mean i like bring them to a different school than back yeah some very disappointed kids if you did that i think just based on the lack of a location and and dates alone you know they'd have to clean that up we really couldn't yeah is that something that you would want to reach out to them for more details on their application or just tell them to wait till next come back next year next year um if we were to go back to every proposal that was lacking something that would have made it better we would never get done i agree wants to take it on go right ahead i it's just going way way way beyond i mean it's one thing what we've done in the past if someone has not submitted a letter from a venue we would i would as chair write that letter just a quick email exchange but asking an applicant basically to redo the entire proposal um there's just that that's just isn't that's not feasible of course it feels like a very vague proposal for such a big amount of money that they want of money that they want is to your part yeah yeah that's true for two thousand dollars it's a lot so we're saying no we're saying no sadly right okay and then we come down to cheeseburgers and rock and roll it was fun here's we've got two in a two in a row that have everything to do with our schools that our schools aren't asking for supporting motivational speaker whatever but i mean he didn't even go to say that this school wants me to come like did anyone look at the um like his website or anything like that oh yeah oh i might be great for something else but i'm not sure this is great for little kids big change stories but besides that exactly what Julian said he said i'm gonna do this during regular school time it's like really teachers have agreed to this the parents have agreed to this and he's only talking about i think one time that two thousand computers i guess could be you know looking at it so it just didn't seem also very child centered or oh it's it's totally i think it's totally like geared to the kid like i mean if like i watched the videos and it was like there's like hundreds of kids cheering for this man yeah at a farm or at a fair but there's no there's like a school gymnasium and the one that i saw on his website see i mean i think to think i'm coming i'm a one i'm a girl that's in my 60s so i have a whole different view of this but if you guys said this is like great then that's a different you know but it art there's no connection to the amherst schools i mean you know i i i think it first for the right student could be a wonderful experience and but you know and if if you come with a letter from a team from the principal or somebody then that's a different conversation but if you're just telling me you're gonna market your thing to our schools then you know good luck to you like call us when you he's um and remember he's also from medway it's not like it's a local person right right how he picked up amherst i guess he saw arlington and we were near it so i have seen a chainsaw sculptor at the big e yeah he's great yeah for ice sculptures uh the last step is a whole other thing that's amazing but this is trees we ran out of scored applications it's 755 it's perfect it's perfect so how many do we have let me um got about 20 left i think because we already got rid of one of them right the next group chainsaw is 32 we've got 53 minus i guess the one right about 20 20 so let me just put that we can set up a crowd i um go fund me if you want um sign up you can do what we can set up a go fund me oh okay because other committees have and just the checks need to be written to the town of amherst i think and then for fundraising and other things it's basically the same thing in many ways if we want to do it so we can do those just so we know so who who actually sets that up and we'd have to set it up ourselves i mean so we have the carte blanche to create using i mean none of us have a town email account other than cindy right um we i can we actually have one um which probably the next chair will want to implement but i i'm using your too many email accounts already i i didn't even want to get into the nitty gritty but i mean that we do have one and it would be the one if we did a go fund me account that would be where the correspondence would end up i take it right that's why i ask yeah yeah yeah so so i think i mean we i think we agreed that we were going to do that correct i mean that was you know i know robin needed to investigate but it was right so we could take a vote i have a quick question um it depends i think whether or not we should use go fund me depends on what type of fundraising we're doing um for the most part go fund me is usually used for projects you set specific goals and you ask people to fund you up to that goal i'm not sure that makes the most sense for us as a body um right because i don't think we have a specific project in mind that we want to fundraise for we want to fundraise at events to then use for projects later on which is i guess my thought goal that was that we would you know we would set an annual goal that corresponded with this particular juncture where we're dispersing the funds so you know the annual goal would be to match the state money with local money on a on a yearly basis to fund you know to fund the projects but i i do hear your point i mean there is a more fluid kind of way to do it using i don't know what ben moe or something you know something else i i mean as long as we structure it that way i think that's great i just wanted to make sure that we weren't planning on using go fund me i don't think you can just accept donations through go fund me for random random use you have to set up a project and say yeah well the the project would be to create a fund for the use of locals i really perspective on this because i mean we rather than just you know pick the first thing if there's some other means of collecting money that's more general and lets us be more flexible in a way that people don't have expectations of it being a project with an end you know fundraising goal we should we should look into that you know i was questioning the go fund me just because we didn't have enough um around you know how we were going to use it and i see no harm in setting one up but i think you know if we're going to collect the money there's a lot of responsibility we have to have to have plans to turn it back around to people and we don't formally have that yet um but i have no problems with setting these accounts up if we took a vote there sure i'd vote to set up a go fund me but maybe that's not the only thing we need to coles point maybe there's some other means of of collecting fund raising money that's more general that we also need and then to actually use them we need a lot more structure to make sure that it it meets the public good we're trying to achieve well i think that's i mean for me and i'm i'm totally on board with you know needing multiple or possibly needing multiple ways to uh collect funds etc um but for me that this really comes about because when i asked the you know folks who have been doing this for a while are you short or you know on a yearly basis are we short are we unable to fund everything we'd like to fund and the answer was kind of resoundingly yes so to me i mean i i don't i completely agree that side projects um petra kucha other other projects like that certainly may need a different structured funding approach but for me this is about matching the the state money with with local funds and and finding ways to fund the merit worthy projects that come are you know people take the time to conceive and apply for these things and we we can't give them full funding and sometimes i think that's a value judgment that we should make but i'm getting the impression that more often than not so we just don't have enough money to distribute according to to merit and i think something like this is a way to to do that and when we do have our final you know going through a signing dollars if we you know come up a couple of thousand dollars short we we can use the funds that have accumulated yeah um for that so if we you know get come to an impasse uh over at the end we do have a little extra money and it would be great to use that money and it would be great to replenish it yeah um and it was seameth when we do the petra kucha there'll be um you know a lot of good positive um feedback on that and that would be a great time to be able to within the publicity for it you know if you want to contribute to a go fund me project to make more events like this possible that would be perfectly good um so and northampton has um they do two cycles of grants a year i think that's nice because being locked into just an annual cycle it'd be nice to to have more flowing throughout the year yep it may should be in the interest of time okay to table this and anybody who wants to go and look at to colespoint additional ways of bringing in money um that would make more sense for how the tunes are used to possibly add that as well and continue that the conversation i think we're all in support yeah have everything you know organized and it's something that we don't have to um have in place um by you know February 1st and this is the kind of thing that we could actually devote half of a meeting to and just do some brainstorming around yeah what we would do with additional funding and how we would structure you know if we got an additional 10 or $15,000 in contributions how could we spend that each year how would we craft our own um application process and work that out and would we limit it more strictly to what goes on in amherst or um i don't really urgency that i i want to put out there's that when we announce these awards that unto itself is a splash and i think it's important that we have some way to collect money online at that time and i've never used go fund me i don't i actually don't really love it because people are always tagging me on facebook on ghost fund me things that i have no idea what they are so you know i have no loyalty to that brand whatsoever but i do think whether it's paypal you know i really don't have a strong stance but i i think it is important that we have a way to solicit funds online when we announce the grants okay um if we do a kind of a virtual showcase at the end of the summer as these projects have rolled out would be probably um a good time to have it i don't know we've never ever um you know the newspaper just doesn't really get this much press i when we do annual reports and stuff um so i'm not sure how how to make a big bang with our grant decisions um we could maybe try to use the instagram following me how to try them or like the facebook because i know a lot of things could happen over there but it's definitely yeah i'm gonna have to go i'm sorry um because i i think this is a conversation that warrants like a half meeting or more exactly just yet but um yeah i think let me before you go um are we all sure that we want i mean given the event of the at the last meeting when sydney was the recipient of something pretty atrocious are we still good with having our faces out there and our names i didn't think we had a choice about having our our names those of us who are on the council well that yeah that's all that's all publicly available for sure um it is a nice thing hmm it is mixed to have our faces up there i think you're right yeah the the camera is no friend of mine so if i if i had the opportunity to yeah now i have my face anywhere ever i'd take it oh come on don't go on you're beautiful i mean yes but you know i appreciate that yeah no i just i feel better not doing it but that's if we have to that's i'll do it yeah i think it's hard for us to relate to each other as a as a group and have effective communication without it so my question then would be is there a way if we're recording can we split the audio from the video or are we concerned about just observation because people would be able to see our faces if they came to the meeting in person but it ends up strangely being a little bit more publicly available i mean i'm assuming on instagram we're much more accessible are we talking about right now this meeting no no no i'm talking about having our bios and pictures up on instagram and i've asked sydney to talk to her parents about it to see if that's see if it's advisable or not yeah i'm going to put my kids pictures out there in this world but we're adults so there's also a branding perspective and that you know we as a community who are who are on the council do are are furthering arts in the community but it does change out pretty frequently you know the individuals matter but they also are less important you know because we're here to serve so as a brand it might be better not to have individual people's faces i don't know nandy leah do you have any i don't know i feel like safety-wise it's hard because i feel like i don't know like i i definitely like already have my face on like social media of things but i feel like that like last medium sort of like change sort of a lot of like dynamics and like if we want to like because i always i was like i just didn't really think that anyone would really put that much energy into just like a government organization if they were like attacking people but i guess people do that just find it so discouraging but i don't know yeah i this is real gray hair i don't die at this color feel ancient i think something that might be worth thinking about it's just that sorry instagram is safer than zoom to some extent i mean it's it's very easy to remove comments on instagram to report stuff like that whereas on zoom it's much more difficult so we can govern what statements appear on our instagram that's what what you do okay well then i feel better about it i just kind of wondered if we were making targets so this is for instagram this isn't for the town website about the cold the cultural council no this would be this is our instagram account the thought was to have pictures of us in just a couple of sentences about each other yeah and i mean so i think my comment is just um i'm really happy that it should reach out to parents gg and and that you know especially folks who are minors on here do um you know all three of you should be have parent consent to be i think participating in even even something like that because it is linked up to the council but i also will say just for from my own perspective it's a social it's a social media post so it's kind of you know it's it's here today gone tomorrow kind of thing it doesn't um you know the goal i think it's an active social media account where you know it's not like our faith our our you know mugs are not going to live forever as representing you know the breadth of the council i mean we want the artists and the art to be the content of that social media site and this is just kind of a little a little a post you know just okay okay i just you know i i don't want to expose anyone to something that you don't understand i mean definitely on instagram i think it would probably if people were to like harass people they would want to do it through like direct messages or like dms which wouldn't be visible to the public and i don't know i feel like it would be weird to dm something that's like clearly run by like an organization and multiple people okay and even like i feel like i even i have a private account and i get like just like there's so many bots that will send just like weird creepy messages but you just you can just like delete them and filter through them okay well then try everybody get your pictures and a little a couple of sentences about yourself to leah and sydney um by monday you wanted them right um yes i think yeah you can do that get out your camera take a selfie okay really don't want to do it i could i could just put like a name in blurb i don't okay you know it could be yeah okay i just supposed to be like an up-to-date picture like not not when i'm a toddler on my tricycle which is so right whatever you can come up with rob but it's supposed to be relevant so right okay on my facebook page i have a reproduction of a 19th century lithograph called the new england beauty could use that on my facebook page i've got me on the price of all it's very cute but i love it okay we'll see you all next week we'll have a lot to do and um so we should read the rest yeah read the rest and um we'll see what happens so chainsaw should we decide now hi everyone pardon me the chainsaw is cheaper there's chainsaw is no okay okay everyone take care thanks for coming bye bye bye