 Welcome back to the breakfast and plus TV Africa. We will check out the front pages of a national dailies as usual We call it off the press and we have upon upon Kutaira who joins the conversation Good morning. Okona Bon Kutaira. It's good to have you join us this and Monday morning and complement all season Good morning, all right, let's start off with the leadership newspaper this morning We'll take a look at the leadership. I mean the leadership newspaper the board captioned on the leadership news paper It talks about the electoral act amendment bill political parties opposed Nass overriding President Mohammed Obrari, and that's the board captioned on the leadership and underneath. There are several riders The fest says Say it's bad for his league legacy That's the first rider Nass won't shift support for president Mohammed Obrari Senate president declares we won't interfere PDP APC keeps me. I'm just wondering what that's that's the case at this point in time I mean it feels like you know Unlike the PDP or the APC at this point in time. It feels like they have something in common All right fear of low-profit push banks to adopt hold coal structure six banks more to move and Moving away from that header. You also have bandits kill 38 in Kaduna communities and Assault how minister envoy same Nigerian passengers in Togo? I mean that's what we're talking about just some minutes ago Bonilla committee meets today talking about the APC national convention Bishop coca max 45 years of priesthood and You also have livestock plant promises Solution to header farmer crisis or clashes. This is some of the headlines on the leadership news paper this morning Right away from the leadership, but we'll move on next to the nation news paper It's still on the electoral act amendment bill these quiet as Buhari the clients are sent to electoral act bill That's the main headline for the nation this morning. There are some writers present President returns bill to National Assembly Senators reps consult and wave forward Those are the writers on that particular story Then most stories above the must-have Chinese loans to Niger now three point five billion dollars Says DMO bandits kill 38 in Kaduna community attack 11 kidnapped suspects You know held Nigeria protest them assault on citizens in Togo and RJ NGE won politicians against destructive politics most stories on the front page of the nation this morning at two point eight or two point six trillion Naira native shifts report on 77 firms status to force quarter All right more stories there only 25 velocities have full accreditation Cells and you see on the red strip just below insecurity Nigeria looks towards Turkey for drones military equipment All right about she records our 153 cases of lasso fever Corporal sells month-old for 50 K All right Let's move away from the nation down and check out the daily independent newspaper Looking at the daily independent newspaper Xbox one's federal government against increasing taxes and tariffs in 2022 Says it will hot businesses increase unemployment Acts federal government to widen tax net to capture on taxed and Davos This arrived is underneath the board caption on the daily independent. You also have we are in a worse situation in Nigeria IU PDP chairman is quoted and that says unity existence of Nigeria threatened on the Buhari and or shoe 2022 I read by Shola loyalists vow to unseat governor or yetola and that's also Another caption you find this morning on the daily independent moving away from that APC Ketaka committee meets today may shift convention date any shift will spell doom for party says former governor a brie stop persecuting prominence neither deltons pandem tells the ESCC and Please arrest 11 kidnappers in Tarabar and recovers seven AK-47 rifles 121 live ammunition and orders and death toll in Kaduna bandit attack rises to 38 You also have new threshold rates Groundhandling coys sign parts and spells out sanction for violators You also have the NCAA approves 25% discounted rates on new charges These are the headlines on the daily independent news before this morning. All right, so the punch on next COVID-19 federal government issues travel advice and legals of vows clumped and as infection so more Riders underneath that story fleeing errant inbound travelers will be charged to court committed a vows Avoid non-essential international national travels while we study Omicron and CDC is quoted on that 845 travelers test positive in Seven days cannot plans to vaccinate 15 million Residents and there's a beautiful pictorial day of a you know Christmas Santa Claus and I just to show your mind Vigorous that it is actually the Utah than that. There's a whole lot of joy and around right now. Well away from that above the Must head upon shines a dame award wins newspaper editor of the year and others Most stories are just below the pictorial there the teen female soldier will be penalized for accepting Corporate's proposal. That's the yummy federal government releases one billion narrow grants to four state for pilot ranching 12 kids cause injured in Bouchie Legals about an expressway crashes More stories there now death toll in Keduna fresh bandit attack rights is to 38 others missing Police go after woman for bullying new born or buying rather a newborn for 50,000 Naira couple arrested Togo, Benet Niger paid nothing for Nigeria's power supply says NERC Just beside the must-have federal government evacuates Nigerian passengers Assaulted by Togo these officials begins probe reps someone I regress your law and is boss over foreign missions visa Passport contract. Those are the stories you can find on the punch newspaper this Monday morning All right, let's have open up on Katara join the conversation Once again, it's good to have you join us open up on Katara. Thank you and All right, let's set up with the leadership newspaper this morning the electoral act amendment bill first of all the the period for ascent or withholding ascent as Granted by the constitution as elapsed and some persons are calling that the national Okay, I'm sure that that would be sorted out now some quarters are asking that it should be you know They should override the NAS should go ahead and override President Muhammad Buhari What are your thoughts on this? Oh within the power of the National Assembly to override if The president recedes are sent to deal that is of national interest And be the national assembly decides to invoke that power. There is nothing wrong. Especially in situations like this And I would like to also and join the National Assembly to invoke his power in order to correct the impression That it is a rubber thumb assembly A lot of us are not surprised that Mr. President did not attend to the deal I had my doubts When he now referred the bill to iMEC That is a departure that first of foremost is an anomaly. It's not necessary iMEC will always Execute once if it's a law iMEC had also said that in 2018 2019 When Mr. President declined after And that bill on the premise ostensibly on the premise that it was quite close to the election Everyone iMEC lucidly He said that it can go ahead with the amendment What is Mr. President ascended to it at that time ascended to it at that time So and this time around now to me, it's a strategy, you know, it's like a premium policy It's now went to iMEC iMEC did not waste any time There was no procrastination on the part of iMEC. It immediately made his recommendation to Uh, the the presidency and that was the end of it So that would tell you that iMEC told Mr. President was not willing to ascend to it There are contesting and contending issues and I think if the president is come between two lawyers Is come between two lawyers Uh, those that are saying the governors most of the governors that are saying don't attend And some lawyers that are saying use promise to write Leave your name in gold by By the description of time In the day when you get So ascended to it And what he does is the best thing he did probably I've seen a reliance upon the advice of a trusted president Like malami The honor was on the general who also criticized the amendment That is I think the party. Yes, the issue of the What direct promise of the party Malami He said it wasn't necessary and few other things. So probably it's actually rise of poor malami's own view And that was why he declined after But a lot of us are not surprised when you consider the the lack of a name. I mean, it was not so difficult What what what what I want to see that is going to keep and that is where a lot of people are saying That's contentious Primary school wasn't started So which means the whole it wasn't a building of contrite I believe to ensure that there was some sort of Controversy that will prevent the mr. President ascending to the bill You know, there are all kinds of theories playing up now But whatever they are is the president of the federal republic of nigeria So the boss stop at his table So what we expected was mr. President to ascend to that view in order to ensure credibility in our elections And in order to restore sanity in our society because part of the problems we are having Part of the crisis we have in this country is as a result of loss of confidence in our society And that is that that loss of confidence is because every four years we throw up people that are not leaders But people that are first-aid or not and so They are not in office in our own image. They go there do whatever they want to do Even still you can imagine when we talk of the COVID-19 palatine When the people run out you can imagine a cemetery having all the palatines in his own house If that senator was actually elected by his constituent I don't think he would have done that because he he would have known too well that he would go back to the constituent But the constituents were immaterial so he had this waiting for his death day to bring them out And if he bought those palatines for the people and how ridiculous is this So that would have sanitized the whole system That would have to have very large extent also reduce the crisis that are doing apocalyptic dimensions in the country So that is what we are saying. Mr. President, I haven't seen you But not so bad. This is one government when weighed in the balance of these streets or the found ones It's particularly all that is the case. So a lot of us are not worried. What do you want now? Isn't it shocking that the president is working their power to override it and let it become a law? So isn't it shocking that the PDP and the APC seem to be very quiet? I mean that's unusual of this political parties So What do you think could be the issue here? I am not I am not surprised that the PDP and the APC are quiet. What is the difference between PDP and the APC? Both PDP members, we are APC members, we are PDP members. In fact, most of them in positions of autonomy are PDP members So what is the difference between APC and PDP? That is not different. How do they all get into power through the same problem process? So what do you expect them to do to protect their own interests? So I am not surprised whatsoever Those that are actually clamoring for this thing are those in the national assembly that are being controlled That want to stricter themselves from the vigorous, capricious, out of touch control of governments That's why they are coming up with this And don't forget the national assembly member, this is like when the state the state house assembly Refused to accept what is the autonomy Not because they didn't want the autonomy, but simply because they were instructed by the governor to show you So the national assembly members have done what they have to do, notwithstanding the pressure from the governor Most of them are falling out with their governor forever Existing that So I'm not surprised if the APC and the PDP Show which they compromise and understand in accommodation on this very issue Because there is no difference between APC and PDP, no difference whatsoever Don't you find in APC today, we are members of PDP Don't you find in PDP today, Sean has compared to APC So what is the difference? There is no difference And they all got into a retruful lengthening So they will definitely for strip steaming every airport that will sanitize the system Because most of them know that they are very unpopular If you want to actually move unpopular Their name is gone, there you go All right Let's move on to other stories for the sake of time I will slide on to the nation newspaper It also has an electoral act bill as it's a banner head But let's move on to other stories out there. I don't know which one you'd want to talk about But let's talk about Nigeria, a protestor sold on citizens in Togo I'm sure you were aware of the incident that happened over the weekend when Nigerians were, you know, assaulted at some of the Yasimi Yadema airport on Saturday Yes, I I'm not used of all the facts, so to speak, but I think I don't got this, but I'm sorry. I don't know why That's why I'm not used of all the facts But I think this is one Act on too many And it all depends on how our government will react to these things That's the, for example, the embankment, the ban They, you can imagine the When the minister for aviation reacted And you can imagine how the international community responded You see, it is not every time you play the soft guy Let me tell you, if you keep yourself as a sheep, you'll definitely be eaten by the lion. They've been attacked by dogs So I think we should accept our authority Now how do we do that? As far as I'm concerned, it's not by negotiating with the authorities No, no, that is just a labyrinth, going to a labyrinth of processes, diplomatic processes that will amount to much We don't need to negotiate with the authorities What we need to do, I know a lot of people that will listen to me now Will not agree with me But let me tell you, in war and in love, all is fair What we need to do right now is to go after every Togolese in Nigeria and also make out the same treatment they've made out to Nigeria It's as simple as that Either of the two things will happen If we license the session of this hostility, if it doesn't, then the Togolese will not come to Nigeria We'll also not go to Togolese anymore And once in a while, we circle out this issue of attacks, or diplomatic attacks, this attacks are done We think must come to an end, we must march First for first, action for action While we are doing that, then the leader can go to the negotiation table to be negotiated But if they kill a Nigerian, for example, for what I'm saying now, if they kill a Nigerian or not, we should kill Togolese They kill a Niger, we still need to believe And that's to a very large extent, so that they are able to authority to be controlled and anywhere the Nigerian is found That country will know that they also have their own citizens in our country And whatever they do to that Nigerian, the same people will make out to their own citizens Yes I'm not sure you're actually encouraging that Nigeria should be engaged in some kind of random No, no, no, no, no, no, no, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me I know you're trying to be diplomatic, I am encouraging it I want to be categorical, actually, I am encouraging it But you also want to agree with me that Magic, whether the government agrees or not is a different bargain, but that is my own approach But you know that violence, the truth is violence has never solved any problem I mean two wrongs can never make a right There could be other, you know, let's also talk about the fact that recently No, no, seriously, recently No, recently, we have been hit by countries You said something I want to respond now You said something I want to respond Yes, I know you are the first daughter of Jesus When they slap you here, you turn the right side to the slap I am not the first daughter I'm also saying that there are other means to punish people I cannot be as holy as Jesus I believe in the deep attack, every handful But we just can't allow all Nigerians to go on a rampage and attack to the ladies Please, please, just let me put you as a... Okay, go ahead Let me tell you the truth If you are two clients, your leniency will be taken for granted You know why America is not respected? You touch an American, they go for your country If the Americans are still alive, they try to save you But if they go for the country, why do you think they are doing that? They don't discuss with you, they don't negotiate with you And Nigeria, unfortunately, our leaders don't do that They don't believe in that And the leaders have also told us to protect ourselves If you are saying protect yourselves, against your own fellow Nigerians Then what do you have to do against a non-Nigerian that has been attacking you? Let us call this space a space Then Nigerians are killed No matter... Look at this last story This lady that was killed in which country? That's this nearby country She's gone, and she's gone They are killed in Togo She's gone to negotiate, the families have lost You are negotiating And I strongly believe that most of the leaders Will just come with all these dryterums, dryterums And they talk and they go But they really know what their boys are doing Because they are part of them But they will not tell you that They will condemn it in public And in secret, they will tell you that's good So if the Nigerians are killed in Togo And 10 Togolins that they killed in Nigeria It will stop Either it will stop or Nigerians will not go to Togo again And Togolins will not come to Nigeria again It's as simple as that Until the leaders can And that's why the leaders can negotiate And as accommodation as we read We can resume Okay, your point has been made So if you sit back If you sit back Somebody slaps you Somebody who walks in and slaps you You say sorry You will come to Poland and slap your wife You say sorry You will go to the Netherlands and slap yourself But when it comes and you trust in him You mark a path of power Maybe this beats you To this kind of coming down to Poland You know, let's just move away from that Here is the example Here is the clear example One day, one day I just understood This is a very clear example What does that mean? They didn't negotiate They also placed a ban They also placed a ban All right, let's move on Captain We need to move on from that Okay, because I'm sure that we'll probably never just You know, get to that point I know that there are too many ways There are several ways to kill a rat We need to know that there are too many ways To take a rat out Okay, so about Looking at the daily independence Daily independence says SBAT wants federal government Against increasing taxes and tariffs in 2022 Bearing in mind that the federal government Is saying via the minister Come 2022 New taxes would be introduced Nigerians should get ready for new taxation And also There's also a plan to remove your subsidy Now on SBAT are saying This would actually hurt businesses It would also increase unemployment Among other issues Let's quickly share your thoughts on this one This is one rather less government You know Always trying to transfer Its problems and inefficiency On the masses It's a government Plundering the morassum Procedure It moves nothing There is home-guided land Even with the present tax Is difficult for Nigerians to take Extremely difficult If it's about tax defaults are I can tell you comfortably that At 90% of Nigerians are tax defaults They don't even think of it Most Nigerians think of their taxes When they have one obligation or the other Either they're going for a contract Or they have to go for their visas Or they have to be taxed into the member tax Some people don't even bother You go and you register You renew your tax You don't have a contract for two place For a manager A friend said to me Why should I be the human tax When I don't even get a job I'm just carrying away my money Whenever a big job will come I'll clear all the debacle up You see That is difficult As a result of poverty You cannot talk of your tax Let's say you have a tax deal Obligation of let's say 100,000 naira That's a problem of 200,000 naira Domestic issue, problem Are you going to think of tax? Even tax problem Are you going to think of tax? What are you going to get? What is the fed up? What is the fed up going to do with the taxes? You're bought whole You're bought whole thousand by you You provide it as a system on generator So what is the fed up? What is fed up going to actually do not tax? With the tax Even exploitation Like you're taking your taxing naira For not rendering taxes You're not Because most of the things you see The national development They come from oil Not from taxes Not like Britain We have the development that's planned on taxes Or like in the U.S. You guys want to plan from taxes No We have the control of oil So why do you have to As a result of your inefficiency You want to punish naira the most It is unfair It is chaos Quite insensitive You're increasing taxes You're not providing services You're offering taxes The services that are provided Are not commercially This is your pay Because as I speak I'm on generator You're increasing the quare They're going to increase diesel Then you tell me to pay tax I think I think my boho In my boho My taxes is madness Absolute madness That's why I say the role I let go The role I let are completely insensitive It doesn't know what to do So it's time to transfer The body to Nigeria That's very bad Very extremely bad We should resist it Why are you going to pay tax Why are you giving taxes Why are you not providing services All right Are you increasing tax Let's move on to the punch I'm Opunabe COVID-19 It's the least story for this morning And the federal government has issued Travel advice Legos is vowing to clamp down As infections soar They said some writers Fleeing air rant inbound travelers Will be charged to court Commissioner Vowles Okay Fleeing air rant inbound travelers Will be charged to court That's according to the health Commissioner here in Lagos Said we should avoid non-essential International National travels While we study Omicron NCDC is saying But the main thing here is that They're clamping down As infections continue to rise Here in Lagos What are your thoughts Oh, yeah Yeah, there's a surge No doubt about that And when is it clamped down I mean Is that because it's not in tune It's self-claimed to be maybe a long down And in addition to a long down And postman of the COVID-19 Ruth and the bulletin He raised a face mask Maybe this time around I'm going to make it mandatory In vaccination we made mandatory So probably we are setting Public building Without proof of being vaccinated You'll be denied after I mean that's clearly what They're going to do They say they're going to lump down You're not going to be allowed To banize the COVID-19 rules And regulations anymore And the government will Put down heavily on whoever Sanctuaries those rules Basically that's what they're Going to do I mean they're not going to go To your house Can you have to log in They're not going to come To your house to do them They're not going to go to your Office But that is the public Appliance Of course they have a right If you're going to The club If you're going to organize The party You seek the imprimatur Of the state You both get the imprimatur Of the state Where you're going to spell Out the number of people That are going to be Accentees And the spacing And so Directly This is what they're saying That strict enforcement Of the rules And transversals Are definitely going to Be dealt with I mean you cannot Break any rules With impunity Offender to get Their jobs With that So to speak I mean Break any of that What they are saying And Which is okay Which is okay I don't have a I don't have a problem with that What What I have to have a problem With a ban On travel Because that is not The ban I share to you A ban on travel Like I said On Monday last week On this very station I said What we need is To ensure that we're Called to use You create awareness That is one And to know I'm dead Not that I'm Or that I'm dead Is not dead I don't know what That is big But anyway Let the government The state government And the federal government Continue their Awareness campaign And also ensure that The rules This are simple As that Like my sister Mercy will say What of those Who believe that That This This This This Doesn't exist That I get what Is up to them If you want to believe Believe in your home And die in your home But they have to be Awareness If you're leaving your house You will not comply If you don't want to comply With meeting your home And dying in your home Or something like that That is a thing to commit To suicide Which are simple as that But basically It's you know That's what the government Learned by They are going to Clamp down on I think if they clamp down The youth Clamp down As the infection shows All right Let's quickly check out The Daily Independent As we co-sit down Stop persecuting Prominent Nigel Delton's Pandef Is saying that to the EFCC Well If you want to Prepare Nigel Delton Coming up Really I was actually involved in the Nigel Delton's problem So they are sorry The hobo era Really involved His book will be out I usually will like it How to say that Why not to be sentimental If the Nigel Delton The guilty of any offense Is not insulated from productivity But I think What Nigel Delton is saying Is that should not be Any discriminated prosecution What is good for the good Is also good for the government In other words If a Mortimer And a Westerner And a Nigel Delton All stole 100-100 Naira That should not be The length Think I would like to put it There is I'm looking for a paper to attempt For it But application of justice But that's not exactly What I wanted to say In other words The one from the north Is arrested And prosecuted For and sentenced to 10 years in imprisonment Fine This man from the Nigel Delton Should also be given the same treatment But not when you prosecute Only the man from the Nigel Delton Can allow the man from the north to go Then that's unfair So That should not be any discrimination But to say That because you are from the Nigel Delta You are insulated from prosecution I completely disagree with that I don't agree with that All I am talking about Is justice for one And justice for all You know So that's exactly my take on that It should not be given any preferential treatment Because you're a Nigel Delta If you have to be given a preferential treatment As a Nigel Delta It has to do with The resources It has to do with Giving us more In terms of Resource In terms of money As a result of the resources to take From our Nigel Delta reason It's not about criminality My from this budget It shouldn't be about criminality All right We must say a very big thank you to you Opponabu Incotaria For joining us Of the press Yes we are done Thanks for your time And your input for today We do appreciate it Thank you I have a suggestion Yes You have a what? I have a debate with you You have a debate with me I have a debate with you Okay Yes That's fine You have a last week with the Sagittarius This week again with the Sagittarius We want the dates Sometimes we disagree to agree I'm sure we'll find a date for all of that Thank you so much No but I must commend your intelligence I love your intelligence Your point is telling Thank you I appreciate All right thank you so much Once again Opponabu Incotaria It is still the breakfast And plus tea for Africa I will take a quick break every 10 With our next conversation We're focusing on the cause of our referendum The CNP is actually making a statement In the moment when we return Do join us again