 Rule applies is last night, if we happen to miss one or you've got a question we didn't get a chance to answer, please save that for tomorrow. We can try to answer that for you tomorrow. So okay, let's take this first question and not had a lot of opportunity here to sort of review these before. So some of these are a little bit longer than others. The first question is this. It sounded as if you thought circumstances could or would not influence or impress upon a person a predisposition towards homosexuality even before they become physically mature. Are you sure? We are sure men are responsible for their own sin but as it is written a jealous God visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me. This thing has maybe been a question with respect to the session that I did this afternoon. Maybe I can take a stab at that and then open this up to Mike and Rick here. What the the latest APA announcement addressed that they believe there's a complex mixture of both nature and nurture that is the cause for homosexuality and so I'm trying to remember to hold my mic right guys sorry. So a combination of nature and nurture. Basically that means environment and upbringing and then it is a combination of both environment and upbringing that cause homosexual behaviors or lend themselves that and we wouldn't disagree with that. Ultimately the cause for homosexualities are depraved nature is sin. But giving outlet to sin or taking advantage of our sinful natures would be of a horrible sinful upbringing. If you've got a I know looking at the statistics of those children that were children of homosexual couples were I want to say seven times more likely to be 70 percent more likely to be homosexual themselves. So we know that environment we know that upbringing nature and nurture both contribute to the lifestyle of the behavior. But ultimately that responsibility falls on our sinful nature our depraved nature. I hope that makes sense. The last statement there referring to what some call a generational curse is visiting the iniquity the fathers to the third and fourth generation. When scripture talks about that the scripture is very clear that each person pays for their own sin. The fathers are culpable for their sin and they're guilty they'll pay and they are responsible for their own sin the Bible says the sons responsible for their own sins and so there's not a generational curse in the sense that you know this father sinned and so now for three or four generations each of his sons are gonna pay spiritually eternally for the sins of that father doesn't work that way. However we all see don't we how the effects or the consequences of sin can affect sons and daughters to the third and fourth generation. That's certainly true of this particular kind of lifestyle these particular kinds of sins that because of the way that you live if you abandon God you throw out the word of God from your household and you teach your kids to blaspheme God in the same way the the effects of that sinfulness the effects of that neglect the effects of that blasphemous lifestyle going to affect your family for generations. I hope that answers the question anything to add to that Mike Rick. Okay all right next question. Can you explain again the response a Christian has when they fall into a sexual sin how can they how can they again be assured of this out their salvation. So how can you again explain the response a Christian has when they fall into sexual sin and how can they again be assured of their salvation. Yeah I'll start and yeah I talked about that briefly last night there's the objective truth of the gospel have you repented and believed the pure gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ that's the objective test and then there's the subjective tests that we find really given in 1st John there are a lot of characteristics that describe what a born-again Christian looks like. You know oftentimes I use the illustration that when we have a child born into our family they pretty much don't look like their parents but as they grow and mature they begin looking and taking on resemblance of one of their parents or both and it's the same way when we're first born again of the spirit we probably look nothing like Christ but as we mature and grow in the grace and knowledge of him and conform ourselves to his likeness then we begin looking like the characteristics that are found in the epistle of 1st John and so we've talked about how Christians will struggle with sin I think the difference between struggling with sin and living in the habitual sin is the real issue here if a person is in habitual sin and has no desire to come out of it then I would question whether or not they're truly converted but if they desire if there's a struggle against this sin then they need to call on the Lord Jesus Christ who has saved them from the power of sin and I think an accountability system is important you need to have people praying for you coming alongside you protecting you from continuing in that sin but there has to be that desire if there's no desire to depart from habitual sin then I would question the person's conversion all right next question does the present-day Catholic Church believe that homosexuality is a sin if so what do they do with all the pedophilia in the priesthood well they they give lip service to the fact that it's a sin but once again when you look at the Roman Catholic hierarchy they have three authorities the Bible of one but they also have the infallible teaching of the bishops and then the sacred tradition that has evolved over 1600 years they say all three are equal in authority but in actual practice it's the bishops that sit above scripture and tradition and they do a lot of twisting and distorting scriptures so that harmonizes with their ungodly traditions and so now we have this pope who many believe is infallible as Catholics do but he is saying things that not only go against the Bible but also go against historic Roman Catholicism and so Catholics right now are questioning who to believe it's a great opportunity to witness to them and show them the only authority that you can really trust is the Word of God and since the Bible calls it a sin that's what we must believe and it doesn't really matter what anyone else says whether it be a religious institution or a man who's all over the map and his philosophy and whatever he says you saw the picture of him on the advocate magazine I mean if he's not calling it a sin homosexuals would not be embracing him as the spiritual leader of the lbgt community and so he may wink at it as sin but he is saying that homosexuals have a place in the church and they can use their gifts to build up the church itself and so officially in the catechism it's a sin but in practice I think they wink at it all right next question is pastor mark mentioned a few organizations infiltrating the school system how do we counsel protect and prep our children facing the these attacks every day how should we rally within schools maybe Christian based support yeah we talked about that I spoke about that in that session this afternoon I would say that understanding that you don't want to abandon the education of your children to the school system if you send them to public school you homeschool them if you have a homeschool umbrella you send them to a private school religious school any number of schools you don't want to abandon the education of your children to that school you as the parent are responsible for their education and being responsible for their education that needs to be a biblical education you need to be teaching them from the word of God and so you want to be talking about these things and so that would require then regardless of the circumstance whether they're homeschool they go to public school they go to a homeschool umbrella or Christian school that just requires that you as the parent to be very very very active in their education and so what's going to happen during the day during the week or when are they going to be addressing subjects like evolution or when are they going to be addressing subjects like sex education or I mean those all those kinds of things homosexuality is going to come up it's it's infiltrated woven into the fabric of the curriculum and many the many subjects that are out there and so ask the question if your kids are in public school go to the principal stay in touch with their teacher email back and forth find out what they're going to be covering and when and if it's a subject that you would rather have influence over your child for and you don't want them to be exposed to whatever is going to be taught that day in school right to the principal call the principal and get permission to take them out of school that day I know in our area that's still a viable thing that you can do if you contact the school you can say listen I don't want my son or daughter to be exposed to that and so I'm going to bring them home on that day you can let them know just be very very active be up there on a regular basis stay in constant communication with the teachers and then to if you're teaching your kids from the Bible then you're talking about these things on a regular basis because you know they're going to be issues and so I think it'd be great to teach your kids creation and to talk about that frequently so that when evolution comes up in the classroom it's a an object lesson a teaching opportunity you might not pull them out of school that day but it becomes an opportunity to let them hear seeing see son see what we talked about and see how the world believes and here's what the Bible teaches just gives you opportunity to work with them same thing with homosexuality they're going to be faced with it and they're going to be faced with it a very early age and so good to talk to be talking to them teaching them from the Bible and preparing them for that time but I just think we have to be in order to rally support in order to protect our children we have to be the ones teaching them and we have to teach them from the Bible and to teach them to stand I let the slide I love that Mike had put up earlier that we've got to be able to stand alone your kids need to learn to stand alone they need to be able to be independent enough to be in the school and alone in their beliefs to say you know to take a stand for what the Bible teaches against what everybody else says or thinks or does they've got to learn to be able to do those things the only way they're going to learn that is from their parents being taught from the Word of God anything further with that as far as rallying support there's not a lot of room for Christian-based organizations in the school system as they did the best way that you can rally support is to get to know the teachers get to know the administrators and find those that empathize with your point of view and communicate with them and stay in touch with them their alternative is to bring them home or I know there are several homeschool umbrellas you can now get a public as far as I'm aware the moms I'm sure the room would know far better than I would a public education through Florida virtual school at home but you're taking the the public school courses online at home through Florida virtual school that's an option to use well many many options I think I would highly recommend just talk talking to a bunch of the moms and dads in our church that are doing various things we've got moms and dads that have kids in public school kids in homeschool kids in Christian schools kids doing it online through Florida virtual school I mean I think pretty much our church is full of folks utilizing various options and just talk and find out what's gonna be best for you and your family all right the next one is I've been hearing new terms besides homosexual bisexual and transgender and it's very confusing people are coming out as pansexual polysexual asexual among other things what do those terms mean and why are people finding it so important to label themselves like this sinful men will continue to invent evil things they'll try to distort the gender that God has ascribed to them by birth so don't don't let that confuse you don't let that discourage you just understand as as as best as you can what the Bible says and if you know what the Bible says you can address that error you can inform your family and those you love and if you're in a situation where you are able to preach the gospel to these to these people you'll know where to go and what to say okay the next question is this it was mentioned in a hinting way that Adam might have been engaged in bestiality is it possible when Eve had not been made yet nor tempted when the sin came into the world would God allow such an abomination from my study of the word I see nothing that indicates such a I'm not sure what forgive me for not being able to read that but I think you get the gist of the question there's no indication anywhere in the Bible that Adam committed bestiality so and and I don't believe if I apologize if something like that but yeah I don't there's no indication and all that was obviously to any naming the animals pre-fall so yeah hope that answers your question one of the one of the questions one of the questions when we're hired for a job is about diversity as a Christian how should I accept quote unquote a gay person knowing that only God can change the heart a tricky situation with being hired and the question of diversity Mike I'm gonna take that yeah I'm certain that all I work in a secular setting and there are men that I work with that struggle with a slew of sins they're not Christians they don't profess to be Christians they have difficulties in different spheres of their life and I work with them just is the same way that I would work with somebody who's a homosexual God calls me to provide for my family and to be a witness while I'm at work so I work really hard my diligence in work gives testimony to the reality of my Christian faith and if the Lord opens the opportunity maybe during lunch or outside of work hours I do share the gospel with the people that I work with but it's I don't want to shy away from the fact that the Bible does categorize homosexuality as a very very debased and low and wicked sin but nonetheless all other sins are offenses to God so the men who who lie and say crude jokes and all of those things those things offend the Lord also so it's sort of just a gospel witness work really hard when the Lord opens the door you know don't don't steal on the clock don't don't Lord opens the door be faithful and your witness and work will will really help you in those situations and then we just have one thing I think a lot of it depends on the relationship if it's your boss that's a homosexual and that's a different kind of a problem but if it's a peer someone that's equal to you or maybe you're subordinate in the business then gives you more freedom but I think a rule of thumb is if the gay person confronts you and their gayness then you have every right to respond as a Christian with your biblical beliefs because when it comes down to the boss over both of you challenging you you can say well they're the ones that brought up their lifestyle and I was just countering with my lifestyle and so then the other opportunity I think you said it well is just be a light and look for opportunities with your peer so that the gospel can go forth but if the boss above says you cannot share this on company time you have to honor that and maybe invite the person out for coffee after hours or whatever but if there is interest then you can go as far as they will allow you but I think being an example of Christ likeness really goes a long way people want to know about the joy that you have in your life and maybe they'll be asking questions of you yeah me and three other members of this church all worked for the same company at the same time and our supervisors boss was was a homosexual and because of our conduct and our work I know that the four of us had the opportunity to share the gospel with her multiple times so we never got in trouble and we were an employee of the years several times each of us they they love our work ethic and we never had any issues with those things it's just a matter of your Christian witness great testimony I work full time here at the church and I'm trying to share the gospel with folks I'm trying looking looking for opportunities we'll feel pray about that see what happens okay many people in the LGBT community are committing suicide because they aren't accepted into society and things like that and people are placing blame on Christians how do we respond to that could you repeat the first yes sir yeah many people in the LGBT community are committing suicide because they aren't accepted into society things like that and people are placing the blame for that on Christians well that's misplaced blame because you know if you're living in habitual sin living apart from God and rebellion towards him there's no joy there's no peace and so ultimately I think that's a life of despair and people have no hope and so it's unfortunate that they would rather commit suicide than searching for the hope that can only be found in Christ Jesus but to put the blame on intolerant Christians remember we reflect the intolerancy of our Lord Jesus Christ and so we need to stand firm in love and approach them whenever we can and share the only hope that they have very good thought about it that you know we have laws already established that are there to protect anyone who's bashed about anything you know or anyone who's we have laws already in place that protect workplace rights so yeah it's a good way of putting it misplaced blame statistically homosexuals make more than heterosexuals there afforded more options than homosexuals so yeah it's just a misplacing of blame thank you brother next question is is the media intentionally failing to report the crimes homosexuals commit against children and the violence in their relationships it's intentional on the part of the media I don't have an answer for that question I don't work with the media so I wouldn't I don't know how to answer that I don't have the data there is a lot of unexplained things going on in the world today and the only thing I can think of it's demonic delusion I mean when you think that we now have a Muslim in the White House a Muslim who hates Christians and hates Jews and yet we reelected him why I mean we know of highly intellectual people that have good jobs that voted for this man a second term and so I just got to believe it's demonic delusion just as the prince of this world is blinded the minds of unbelievers so they cannot see the light of the gospel the glory of Christ I think he's blinding people from the truth of reality as well I mean there's no other explanation and so I just throw up my hands and say it must be demonic miraculous blindness there's certainly a bias we see we can we can visibly see the bias and so much in the liberal media the liberal political party those kinds of things yeah miraculous blindness the next question I recognize that we are all born with a sin nature and have fallen short of the glory of God I have a family member I've attended witnessing to and he and his friend tell me they were born this way my question for you is do you believe in a generational curses and if so do you believe they can be broken we've pretty much addressed that yeah not in any as far as the generational curse but I think we explain how sin the consequences of sin continue and so hopefully that question is already answered for you you said I recognize we all are born I have a family member I have attempted to witness to and he and his friend tell me they were born this way can someone be drawn to that particular sin from a very young age yes yeah they can be so it there's a good possibility that these men or women whoever they are have been struggling with this particular sin from a very young age but it's still a sin it's still a sin and they can find forgiveness and they can find the power to overcome their sinful inclinations if they would believe in the Lord Jesus Christ if they would turn from their sins so I think Pastor Mark addressed the issue of biology very very well in his talk so yeah that's the advice that I would offer to them do men have one less rib than women I googled that and we have the same number of ribs but remember I well you don't have to when God gave me my wife he didn't take a rib out of my side and I'm pretty sure that didn't happen with you either no you've you've got yeah so it's only something that happened with Adam but we do have Adam's apples how can you quickly but effectively discuss someone's homosexual lifestyle from the word in a work or school place like during lunch break etc when time is short he just mentioned that anything further we want to add to that okay next question what advice would you give to parents who despite teaching their children the law of the Lord have children who are practicing homosexuality what advice to parents pray pray fervently share that struggle that difficulty that you're going to with other faithful Christian men and women so they might pray and be faithful to be salt and light don't allow that sin to if you have other children to influence those other children make it very clear that it's a sin this is wicked just I have young boys and they they you know they're constantly going at each other or doing different and it I call them out on their sin appropriately and their discipline for their sin appropriately so as a parent if you're still the legal guardian and it's you know not a 25 year old woman or a man apply the right amount of biblical godly good discipline to the child pray share the word of God with them have others pray for them and protect the other children in the home if there are any and mark I think it goes back to what you shared earlier if parents really love their children they will not affirm their homosexuality to affirm their homosexuality is not to love them and so I think sharing what you just shared is so important and we also realize how easily influenced children are by the culture and so as a parent are you watching what they watch on TV are you guarding them against the culture the Hollywood pervasiveness of this sinful life lifestyle and if they are open to all of these things coming into their home maybe it's a good time to cut that off and to watch more closely what's influencing them yeah come back soon we're gonna have a conference in May on that very issue children and technology and just the media influence on our kids that is gonna be a very important time so last question we've got to get you home and let you guys get some rest to Mike specifically when preaching the gospel to a sodomite can we preach the cross and the resurrection without preaching repentance and faith and so repentance I guess is repentance only a response or also a command by God for men everywhere to repent is the nature of preaching the gospel and repentance yeah when we preach the gospel it must include repentance and faith as the only saving response for salvation you cannot leave that out otherwise you've given an incomplete gospel remember there are so many people who have head knowledge about Jesus being a historical figure that lived and died on a cross 2,000 years ago but that head knowledge doesn't save them faith in Christ as he has revealed in the Bible must be coupled with repentance a turning away from sin a change of mind about the way you once lived and believed you could be saved to trusting Christ alone and nothing else for your salvation thank you brother if I could add to that briefly if you were here for the introduction of our brother on Friday night and the introduction of the conference I just mentioned the story about Korean Airlines that went off track at the beginning of the flight when the flight took off and how over a period of time it was 60 miles off and then 120 miles off and then before it crashed 300 miles off and let me encourage you if you're visiting with us are here from another church if you're not in a church that faithfully preaches repentance and of turning from sin preaches against sin and preaches a biblical repentance which involves turning away from sin and you're in a church that to some degree or another has departed the biblical gospel and is now off track and is heading in a direction that is going to affect so many different areas heading in a direction that is going to be spiritually destructive to your soul it's going to impact teaching on other things get out of that church you cannot toy you cannot mess with you cannot alter even one might the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ and think that it's not going to have influence in people's spiritual lives it's not going to have influence in the church in fact if you're going to betray the gospel or Lord that way you forfeit the right to call yourself a church and so for the churches that preach and ask Jesus into your heart gospel right admit believe and confess and there's no repentance get out of those churches for the for your own spiritual health and vitality for your own good and get to a church that accurately and faithfully preaches the gospel it is the most important thing so you've got to be faithful to those things but thank you brother for preaching that and all right well let's pray and get you guys home we'll pray and then I've got just a couple of requests of you and then we'll depart for the day so brother would you mind closing us in prayer heavenly father we are so thankful for the opportunity and the privilege to study this vital topic that is affecting our nation our communities and the church at large and we pray that the truth that you have graciously been revealing to us throughout our time together that we would apply it Lord that we would believe it and that we would share it with others as you give us opportunity Lord I pray that you would bring us back here tomorrow thank you for my brothers and for all of their labor in Christ's name I pray amen