 spot. So yeah, we had to talk on Monday. Good. Yeah, that's great. Steve, he's active in the community in Poppy Park. Oh, good. Good. It'll be nice to have someone from that area actually on cab. So yeah. Yeah. Cool. Yeah, and Chris is set to come to the 28th meeting. Oh, he is? Yeah. So do I need to give him time on the agenda? Well, I mean, he could be part of opening, but then he'd only have three minutes or something. So it might be better to give him some actual time, don't you think? Yeah. Okay. Yes. I feel like it's very important that he imparts his wisdom and enthusiasm. Okay, experience. So I'm letting Magali know, which is man, that's gonna be rough for her. She's not gonna be able to be there. So we'll see what she decides to do. It's okay. So we do have just to let you guys know we do have a full subcommittee now Damian emailed me earlier today. He can't make it tonight. But he will be joining the subcommittee. Um, so when Vince comes back, we will have a full subcommittee. That's great. How did how's the other subcommittee doing? We haven't met because of my school schedule. But there's only two people on that subcommittee. So it is not about your school schedule. You don't have to even mention that. Oh, about two people. It's about all people. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true. But I will have to find in the fall have to figure out these meeting times for subcommittees because I will not be able to do it with school. So I have to figure that out. All right. How long do we want to give the next member? We all hold out till 6 10. Yeah, does that work? Okay. Thank you. Yeah. I know that there's a lot of traffic and more so it's just like in this past week, I feel like the traffic has been a little bit more impacted and crazier. I don't know how you guys experience it, but it just seems more different like at odds. And I don't ever my house. I'm always here. My daughter actually her boyfriend lives in Windsor and every now and again, you know, they're driving back and forth. But she said that the last week, there seem to be a lot of accidents. Yeah, that's what I'm feeling. I mean, we do live near a major intersection. So would it be allowed if I share something that I heard today at the mayor's meeting? We're not, we don't have a quorum and we haven't started meeting. So it's fine. So it's just like sharing like grade school. Keith might already know this, but you know, the county was looking to come downtown, which they're still looking to come downtown potentially. And I had heard about the one site right there between or next to the post office that that parking lot right there, and maybe incorporating in the central library. But what I hadn't heard about, which I'm very excited about, because I thought this was a good idea long ago is potentially the Sears building. Yeah, and everything sears and in the mall. So they're just doing their study analysis. But so who knows where that'll go. But even the potential of that and just looking at it as a viable solution, building on there, that's pretty cool. I always thought that the whole mall could use a boost like that. I know that there's been a lot of conversations around what to do with the mall, like in the downtown specific plan work that had happened. And also general plan update, I'm sure it's come up in conversations. But it seems like for last couple years, at least, that's been a topic of conversation amongst a lot of people. Yeah, the city. But it's the first time I've heard the county. Yeah, publicly, that that's been allowed to be said out loud. So that was that was pretty, pretty cool. And so yeah, and kind of tying into that city is doing a downtown station area station area historic resource evaluating. So I just put in our engagement site for that. So we finally launched our digital engagement platform. And this is one of the first projects we put on there. So there's an opportunity you guys, please feel free to check it out. Play around with the tools. I believe with this project, you can you can play there's an interactive map. So you can use the pins on the map, you can post ideas on the virtual idea, post it, you can share stories about either your favorite place downtown or a real special place downtown and why it's special to you. It's really cool. Like what you could do here, you could ask questions about the project. There's also a guest book, which is pretty cool. Oh, all right. Yes. Anyway, so check it out when you get a chance. There she is. I can feel Candace huffing and puffing to get here. I can feel that I can feel it. You're here. Take a breath. You're good. You're on mute too, if you want. Sorry, I'm late. My hospital just called my nephew's in the Air Force and he's got COVID and his wife has COVID and they have a newborn. So we're trying to figure out how to get the baby here. Sorry. Yeah, it's okay. Oh my gosh, that's a lot. It's a lot for you to handle. Yeah. Yeah. Grandma's working on it and getting his parents involved. So hopefully they'll figure it out. Yeah. Good. Yeah, I'm just gonna take a whole team to do that. Yeah. Yes, definitely. And I'm sure it'll be quite expensive to get a flight out tonight or in the morning. Yeah. That's rough, especially with the newborn. Yeah. Yeah, she's pretty little. She's three months old. Thank you. So I'm sorry I'm late, but I'm present. I'm here. I'm focused. Awesome. All right. Well, thank you for being here, everybody. So we don't we don't really have a facilitator for this meeting. So whoever wants to facilitate and then this group will eventually need to decide who will be the facilitator moving forward. So it could be a subcommittee chair, or it could just be a designated facilitator, however you guys want to do it. So we want to facilitate. Keith, do you want to facilitate? You're good at it. Sure. I'd be happy to. All right, I'll call this meeting in order at 611 p.m. on the agenda. Let's do a roll call. Remind me, do I go through a name or do they No, no, we have all members present except for member tornado who's not here. One, two, three, four member Harper and member square will be joining us next month. So I'm not going to count this absence against him just because he joined today. So but he'll join next month. All right, and then public comments. Do we have anyone here for public comment? Anyone on the line? Let's see here. It doesn't look like we have anybody in attendance from the public. Hi, there are no hands raised for public comment. Thank you. That brings us to new business. 3.1 overview of subcommittee that's Danielle. Yes, one second here so I can make my note. There we go. Okay. I'm going to share my screen here. Maybe everybody see this right here. Okay, cool. So I think chair graves and member Roberts are pretty familiar with this, but for member Sefi, Steffi and member Richardson. This is the community community empowerment subcommittee, we call it the empowerment subcommittee, strategic objectives. And most of them the subcommittee has worked on in the past. So implementing neighbor fest, that's one that was done in 2019, assisting the office of community engagement in implementing that program. But as I mentioned earlier this afternoon in our other meeting, neighbor fest has been suspended due to the pandemic. So we will be talking about that in just a little bit because it looks like we will be able to move forward with implementing it next year. So I'll get to that in just a moment. Other objectives are creating a civic engagement academy proactively attending neighborhood meetings. And then it says new, but we've been working on this most of this year is assisting our department and creating a series of civic 101 videos. So actually, I believe we started on that last year. And so members of the subcommittee actually work together, put together some content for those videos. And that content actually went into not only creating the videos, but also into the citizen guidebook to participation. Quick note on that, everyone, the draft of the guidebook is complete. So it's being reviewed right now by the city attorney and the city clerk. And then at the end of this month, we will be sending it out to all cab members to review the final draft, as well as holding a series of focus groups with community members to review it as well, and see if it's easy enough to understand, it contains everything that they would want to know about participating in their local government. So more to come on that as we get there. But the Civic 101 videos, I'm also excited to let everybody know is we have just finished writing the scripts for that. Magali is in the process of reviewing those and then we'll be sending them over to FDA productions where they will start putting those those into action. And so we may need some actors. So I'll be reaching back out to you guys to help with either acting out scenes or doing voiceovers. I know member Roberts had mentioned that he was interested and I think member Steffi had also mentioned that she might be interested in doing some of that. So you'll be hearing from me soon in regards to voiceovers and maybe acting. I know that we have one or two scripts that will involve the mayor and some of the council members too. So I'm really looking forward to getting those going. But so that's basically what the subcommittee has been working on since last year. I'm hoping eventually either this year or early next year we can get back to proactively attending neighborhood meetings as things start to open up again. And people are able to or neighborhood groups actually are able to hold their their neighborhood meetings in person again. In the meantime, Magali would really like some help around planning for Neighbor Fest 2022, getting your ideas. I will in just a moment go over what Neighbor Fest is for those of you who did not get a chance to participate in 2019 and don't know much about it. But before I jump into Neighbor Fest, are there any questions about the work that the subcommittee has is doing? Question, comment, Danielle. As far as neighborhood meetings, I keep hearing us having a little bit of a roadblock because we're waiting for them to happen. They are happening. And so there's a number of neighborhoods that are meeting still virtually. There's some that are getting together in parks. So and or even having other activities, you know, and other groups that are kind of hybrid of neighborhoods. Like at the beginning of June, there was the and I'm forgetting which what the name of it is but the said like met with council member Victoria Fleming and Santa Rosa together. So I don't I would hope that we could kind of fast-track that and get ourselves aligned with some of those meetings and really get in touch with folks and and be a little bit more proactive. Yeah, definitely. That's I hope that you guys will take that on. However, I really think the what needs to happen is finding out which neighborhoods are meeting right now, how they're meeting in person or virtually. And when when those meetings are happening, you know, dates, times, etc. So, and it's I also want to make it clear too that it's not just this group that's that's attending meetings. The hope is to that the whole cab will will participate in attending neighborhood meetings, especially for those that are assigned to various areas. That way they can stay connected with the area that they've been appointed to. So or the neighborhood that you live in, for example. So and I had compiled that list and I think at one point there was some talk of it coming to cab and then either the cab eating got canceled or something happened and I wasn't able to share it. But I do have a pretty good list already started. And what I'll do is I'll kind of dust it off a little bit and revisit it and then bring it to our meeting on the 28th. Okay, cool. Yeah, I just I simply put out a little something to folks that I knew. And then I also put out something on Facebook and the response was really positive. There was there was quite a few that are still going have been going. I'm also thinking to we have the digital engagement site now, we can create a neighborhood page that that can be like, you know, where neighborhoods can go and share what they're working on and share their their meeting times. So I'm going to put that down for myself too. I've been thinking about that too. Just not just for cab, which is outside of that too. So I'll I'll go and put that together. That'd be great. Okay. Any other further questions or comments about overview and subcommittee? Okay, then let's go to 3.2. Finding for NeighborFest 2022. Okay, that's going right back to you. All right, so I'm gonna actually share. Oops. Hang on a second here. Sorry about that. Get to NeighborFest. Okay. Hopefully, you can see the NeighborFest website here. So you can get to this by going to srcity.org slash NeighborFest. What you will find here on the page is what NeighborFest is. And the information on here was really centered around our 2019 pilot project, which was so the neighborhood engagement or empowerment network from City of San Francisco helped us create our program. So NeighborFest started in San Francisco. And really, the project is centered around bringing neighbors together. So neighborhoods together to get to know one another and build that social cohesion and social connectedness and also prepare prepare for a disaster at the same time. And it is modeled after not only the the program in San Francisco, but also FEMA's whole community concept of preparedness as a shared responsibility. And so you can check out all of those different sites here on the website. Our pilot program was funded through the Community Foundation of Sonoma County, the Health Care Foundation of Northern Sonoma County and do the United Way of the Wine Country in 2019. That was one time funds. And so what the CAB decided to do was make it part of their strategic plan and use CAB grant funds to provide money to neighborhoods that want to do NeighborFest. And so in the CAB grant program, they can apply for funds to do NeighborFest. There's also a different tier where they do just NeighborFest. There's a different tier where they can do both NeighborFest and a community improvement project together. And we don't have to talk about that tonight. But that is an option. So there's two different funding tiers once we get back to to doing NeighborFest and, you know, doing it in person. I won't show the video tonight, but there is a nice little video clip. Channel 7 News came out to one of our NeighborFest in 2019 and did a nice little story on that. So again, NeighborFest is a block party that offers neighbors the chance to come together, have fun and build a stronger connected more connected community. And the reason why we decided to do NeighborFest, it was an idea that came out of the 2017 wildfires. We heard a lot of people say that during the wildfires that year that they really weren't sure what to do. They weren't sure if anyone was going to help them come to help them evacuate. And many people relied on their neighbors to help them do that. And so we found this program and thought what a great idea to implement in Santa Rosa, so that not only are people getting prepared for a disaster, but they're getting to know their neighbors a little bit more so that they can rely on one another during either another wildfire or a disaster. So NeighborFest aims to strengthen social cohesion or connectedness, resilience and prepared neighborhoods for disaster. And this is the big one research has shown that more the more connected neighbors are to each other, the stronger their resilience is after an emergency. So I mentioned the pilot program, we had eight neighborhoods involved in that we engaged with over 1200 people from all eight neighborhoods. So we have a final report that is available for everyone to read right here on the website. So feel free to take a look at that when you get a chance. We also developed a toolkit to help neighborhoods plan for for their event. So it's available in English and in Spanish, we will most likely have to update this for next year. So my team will work on that. It includes things like how do I, how do I put together a block party? What permits do I need? What what kind of roles and responsibilities can people have on the planning team? What kind of food should I serve, you know, things like that. So take a look at that. It's a really helpful tool for neighborhoods to have. So basically how NeighborFest runs, we provide them with the funding $2,500 for just the single NeighborFest event or $5,000 if they do the NeighborFest event plus the community improvement project. They do all of the planning for their events. It's all in them to decide what they want to have there as far as food, entertainment, different community booths. And what we do in return is the city of Santa Rosa comes out, provides information on evacuation routes, emergency alerts, notifications. We sign people up for SOCo Alert, talk to people about the differences between SOCo Alert and NXL and why it's important to sign up for SOCo Alert. And we also do, the cab actually worked a lot on this in 2019 with our department as we do a Map Your Resilient Bill activity. So we bring in a large map of the neighborhood and neighborhood members can come up to the table and the cab members lead them through an activity, so a mapping activity. So they're looking at it and they talk about where they can find fresh water if for some reason their water gets turned off, where they can evacuate to if they have to evacuate. And what the best evacuation route might be. A meeting place that's nearby. Somebody has a generator that they might be able to share for just a small little bit. Who are those people that might have that resource? Who has medical training and where's the nearest hospital? So it's a really nice activity that brings the neighborhood together to map that out. They get the map at the end of the event and then if they want to continue working on disaster preparedness for their neighborhood, then we link them to staff at the fire department that can help them do that. And then we do the evaluation of the program as well. So again, most of the planning for the event itself is done by the neighborhood and we just come in and bring our resources. We also partner with American Red Cross. They come in and do individual disaster preparedness as well as some first aid demonstrations. We also have some mental health resources for for the neighborhoods. And the library came out in 2019 and I know that was something that they wanted to continue partnering with us on. And so we bring in those community partners that want to be involved also. So with that, I will go ahead and stop sharing and then answer any questions that you may have. Anyone have questions? I have a question. Sure. I'm just curious. And I'm new at this. What is like my responsibility to initiate one of these things to happen, either in my neighborhood or in any neighborhood, because I'm an at large member or they marketed to from the city and they raise their hand and say, I want to do it. Yeah. So it's tied together with a community improvement grant program. And so what will happen there is once we are given the the thumbs up to go ahead and have neighbors for next year, then we will update the the cab grant application and then in your outreach that you do for the cab grant program. You will let, you know, say your neighborhood know that this is an opportunity that's coming up that they can apply for. And then sharing it, you know, we will market it as well, like we do for other parts of the the grant program. So it's it's kind of like what we talked about earlier today at the meeting that we had. It's we rely on you to do outreach on your own to your neighborhoods and your community contacts. And then we do the traditional, you know, city communication channels to push that out. Okay, sounds good. And the ones that did it in 2019 have even in contact saying they want to do it again. Yes. So the following year 2020 is when we opened it up through the cab grant program and we had two neighborhoods that participated in 2019 apply through the cab grant program to do that. And as well know, you know, pandemic hit. So what they decided to do is just do their community improvement project piece of it. Instead of doing the in person neighbor fest event. But they have expressed interest in once we open it back up to doing those again. However, really like to see other neighborhoods participate that haven't gotten a chance yet either. Right, makes sense. And also the eight neighborhoods that isn't at all correlated with the city council districts, right? No, with with the pilot program, we knew that we would have more success if these were already organized neighborhoods. And so most of them were neighborhood associations are already standing community groups like the Roseland community building group. South Park had their own group. So, you know, that we went through more organized neighborhoods, but it can be open to any neighborhood group, whether it be, you know, like an association or or just, you know, a non formal group informal group. Okay, thanks. Yep. Last question. Sure. Um, is are we still going to have just community improvement grants, improvement program grants projects? I get the name mixed up. I know we're still going to have just because I know that we have neighborhood fast coming back in 2022. We have the hybrid with the neighborhood fast with a project. You get more money. But are we going to have just a project? I think that's a very good question. And it is actually something that cab needs to decide because right now, the resolution states that it's neighbor, it's just neighbor fast with the project. So if you want to go back to doing also just a project, we're going to have to update that resolution, which is easy to do. And then I'm sure the council will be fine doing that. We had wanted to give the community opportunity to really embrace neighbor fast. But at this point, now that we've been through a pandemic, I think that we need to be a little bit more open with our options. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. Yeah. It's also kind of a gateway to maybe doing a neighborhood fast, you know, for some of those neighborhoods that maybe we haven't connected with yet or they haven't been engaged yet. So and maybe maybe the amount is a little bit different or something like that. But I think it's a great a great way to kind of start the process toward there. Also, we also in our listening sessions last summer heard from some community groups that neighbor fest just is not it's just not for them. That's not where their focus they want their focus to be. So I think we should be a little bit more flexible in the options that we have to offer to the community so that, you know, this is an accessible inclusive grant program for everyone. Yeah. Great. We'll keep that on tab. Thanks. So one, one of the other things I forgot to mention, actually there are two. So when we initially planned neighbor fest, we we obviously started small because we wanted to evaluate just how neighbor fest went and, you know, participation from both the neighborhoods and our community organizations. After that pilot program, we felt that it would be a great opportunity to invite any of our city departments that wanted to participate in these events to come out and table because this is a great way to come connect with the community. I call it like it's almost like a mobile city hall or city hall is coming to the neighborhoods. So that's one option that I would like to keep open for next year. The other thing that we are working on here in our department. So everybody is familiar with the multicultural roots project, I believe I hope so. And so we found out that the Sonoma County Museum is actually doing something almost completely identical to what we're doing except it's in video format. And so we've decided to partner with them to to basically bring all of our resources together. They can help us push our stories out even to an even bigger audience and then we can help fill in some of the gaps where they might not have enough staff to go out and do all of the interviews. So we are looking at doing a couple of things with them. One is to help them with our video project. So we're still working out the logistics but basically our VISTAs and we will have a couple of interns this fall as well. We'll take that video equipment and go out into the community and do video interviews so that we can share those videos through our city channels but also the museum will be highlighting those videos there as well. We'll also be participating in the Dia de los Martos event this fall at the museum. So we're working with them on that and we're going to use that time hopefully to just do some recruitment for this and see if there's anybody who attends the exhibit at the museum if they'd be interested in participating in the interview interviews that we're doing. The other part of it, so we do the interviews and then we share them through our city communication channels and the museum shares them. The executive director of the museum learned about a program. I believe it was from Toronto where they also used VISTAs to go out to various neighborhoods and do these interviews. But then at the end of the project, they held various block parties to share the videos and to share the stories. And so I thought what a neat way this would be to incorporate that project into NeighborFest as well, if that's something that the neighborhood would like to have part of their event. Again, because the neighborhood they're in charge of the event and the planning and whatnot. But we could also include a table to talk to people about the project, recruit people to be a part of these interviews. And if anyone wants to be interviewed the day of to sit down and be interviewed on video with one of our VISTAs. So just two ideas I wanted to throw out there that we could make available to the neighborhoods if they wanted to take those on. So yeah, I just wanted to add those to your different options here as we start to plan out what NeighborFest is going to look like moving forward. I really like the idea of being flexible for the neighborhoods that don't see a traditional NeighborFest being ideal for them. So I would love to see some neighborhoods be very creative and go outside the box, even if it's not exactly a traditional NeighborFest. I had a question you mentioned working with the museum. Is there going to be any tabling for CAB members? They've tabling opportunities for CAB members. I remember we did the market and I was just wondering if there's going to be anything like that. Yeah, we're still not 100% sure yet what the rest of this year is going to look like for city staff. Right now, we are still not allowed to participate in any big community events or fund any big community events. And however, I believe in the next couple of weeks, we are going to have some some availability to do that. But as long as it has a focus on disaster preparedness, so essentially public safety staff will be allowed to resume their community meetings, for example, like an Oakmont when they go out and do their disaster preparedness presentations with neighborhood groups. We could join in, in some of those meetings, the fire department is always open to having us tag along with them. It just depends on space, you know, what the size of the meeting is and how big their their meeting space is going to be. So that might be a potential to, you know, have a little table off to the side or a chance to just give a quick blurb about the CAB grant program and neighbor fest coming up next year. But as far as other events go, like, I don't I don't think the market's happening this year. I could be wrong, but I haven't heard of. Yeah, I haven't heard of anything. Oh, there's the whole opening out in downtown and there's movies on Wednesdays. Yeah, there's I mean, there's a whole slew of stuff that's happening. So I'm subtle that you said that there's no permits because there's a slew of things. No, no, no, no, not permits. We can't participate as cities. Yeah, I think permitting is slowly starting to happen, but we as staff can't participate anything. So if there's something like the opening out and the movies and stuff like that in Courthouse Square wherever they are, if you guys feel comfortable with having a table out there, I'm fine with that. I just am not. I'd have to get special permission, basically from a colleague to be out there, which she's pretty flexible with. And I think she would probably be OK with joining us as well. It just we have to be we have to be a little bit cautious. I think we'd have to get special permission is basically what I'm trying to say. So isn't the city kind of part of open out? No, we are. Yeah. All right. But again, not supposed to be like out like you're not really opening out. No, no, that's all. No joke. It's so confusing. I know. You know what it really is? I'll tell you guys what it is. It's Kalosha requirements and policies. We have to make sure that we are abiding by Kalosha guidelines. So because if we're not getting into a lot of trouble, yeah, that's what we're waiting for. We're waiting for those guidelines to come out because we thought we were also going to be back in the office this month and we're not. So yeah, we're just waiting. And ideally, it sounds like just to piggy back off of what Keith was asking. To me, it sounds like it's always ideal to have staff like you wouldn't send cab by themselves to an emergency table. Right. We really need the backup expertise and the ability to answer those nuanced questions. Yeah, I'm going to make a note for myself to chat with Magali about how we would go about. I mean, because if we're out in Courthouse Square, like, for example, when people are out at restaurants, it's not like we're gathering in large groups or having large groups of people come gather around us. It's catching those people they're out and about for, you know, a meal or whatever. And then those who attend a movie, for example. So yeah, let me see what what we can do on our end about that. So because I know, I mean, there's quite a few of us that are like, can we please start talking to people in person, please? So yeah. Okay. I think I helped us get away from neighborhood fast, but were there any other questions about neighborhood? Okay, so let's go to future agenda items. Does anyone have topics they want to see on? Yeah, so this is basically your guys's chance to start talking about like how you want to spend your meeting times from now on. So what types of what do you want to work on? Do you want to report back on? Neighbor neighborhood meeting attendance or I want to make the most out of this one hour that we have together. So we probably want neighbor, neighbor fast and the system guidebook and civic one on on the on the agenda is really okay. I want to talk about the cab and the committee structure, but that might be something for the whole cab to discuss rather than the committee. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. The as we approve the community improvement project grants that I remember previously, even though it didn't happen because of COVID that we were going to kind of be one or two, I think two cab members were going to be assigned to each one to kind of maybe be not facilitators, but just on, you know, they're to kind of be a presence and and maybe this it seems kind of similar to neighborhood fest implementing neighborhood fest. So maybe that's something that we need to chat about here because after in August, we will have approved the grants. So maybe that's we need to kind of come to a resolution about like how how are we going to then have to be a presence out at these projects that are that are going to be happening. OK. Yes, I remember that. It's like basically like project liaisons, you're the liaison to the yeah. It's hard for me to to verbalize it because it was a concert when I heard about it and then we didn't really get to implement. So, you know, it also helps me too because you're helping provide that technical assistance to the groups, which helps me not get bombarded all the time by groups, but it keeps you connected to the community, too. Right. And it helps build those relationships with these groups. And so hopefully they come back another two years or so to reapply or something. So, yeah. And you're saying that. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. So are you saying maybe our next meeting or next committee meeting we each get assigned or choose one or two of the projects that get approved and we're the liaison looking forward? Is that does that timing work? Is that what your hope was? Yeah, or either by then we will know how many are approved and and we can come together as a subcommittee and decide is that something that the whole cab then is involved in. So we would actually then present it to the cab in August. The August meeting and say, OK, now this is this is what we're looking for and kind of have a better definition of what the liaisons would do at those projects and what we're what we would be responsible for so that all members of the cab would somehow be involved in that. Or have the opportunity at least to be involved. So it wouldn't just be our subcommittee would be the entire cab that would have an opportunity. OK, I know for me I'd like to have the object like I'm new at cab and I'm new at all this and, you know, with COVID and then with the not having the forums, I feel like I'm not really engaged yet. So if I can get one or two of those projects and Lincoln with them, I would feel like I'd made a step forward and it's it would just kind of, I don't know, for me, it sounds like a really good way to get engaged when it's been challenging lately to be engaged. Yeah. I feel so bad for you, you know, new members that joined during the pandemic, because this is like not how we do things at all. It's like, well, that means there's nowhere to go but up, right? Yes, exactly. We're usually always in person, always at events. It's yeah, it's this has been rough. I think also to piggyback on that item too, maybe the group can talk about an outreach plan for the grants. So that cab feels that they have a little bit more ownership over the outreach as well, because that was, I think, one of the reasons why we only got six applications this time. And just to let you know, I did mention this today in the grant meeting, but some of our violence prevention staff and some of our VISTAs are actually going out to some of the neighborhoods that are meeting currently due to violence in their neighborhoods. They are providing that information to these neighborhoods about the next grant cycle. And so hopefully we'll have a little bit of some more people applying or more groups applying as well as the organizations that the partnership works with too. So our hope that we while we do this, we create more interest in the program for the next round. Hopefully you guys will have like 50 applications to choose from this. Rather than six, I'm just kidding, but that has happened before. OK, outreach plan. So, yeah, it sounds like an outreach plan and a liaison plan would be things that we can talk about. OK, cool. And then Keith, we can definitely talk in this sub committee about Cab and the community structure, maybe start the conversation here and then and then bring it to the full cab. If you find that helpful or we could do it at the broader cab meeting. Oh, yeah, either way. But yeah, I was just. Since we have gone down from three committees to two and one of them is not really there. I was wondering if we could just take a look at the structure and maybe maybe we don't need committees. Maybe we need more committees. I don't even know. I just wanted to just think about it and discuss it. The first thing I don't know more committees, but. But no, that is a great. Yeah, that is that is something that the candidates talk about. So, OK, and the other thing I wanted to discuss with it is and I brought this up before it might have been a few years ago. But yeah, just the committees bonding together. Just I just feel like if our committee could get together, if the board could get together and have a better relationship with each other, I feel like we care more about the work we do on cab and which members would show up more. Members would contribute more. Yeah, I just want to talk about how we can improve. Morale or relationship or bonding, whatever. You need a board retreat. But then we have to open up. Still have to be open to the public, though. So let's figure out how to do that. I think it will. All right. It will. You know, it's good. Some of that. Hopefully, we'll work itself out as we are able to meet a little bit, you know, and. There was some mention because I brought it up today at the mayor's meeting, but the. Need for space. So I put that on Chris's radar and there has been, I guess, some look at the Finlay Center or the community services. That's probably you, right? And but Chris, Chris also said, you know, you know, there's there is the potential of using the city council chamber. So I don't know his creative mind was at work, how that would work. But, you know, in that hybrid fashion, because you could sit some in and we could be at different offices on computers, too. So I'm I'm I'm totally I'm completely jumping forward. That was not what he said. That was like my creative mind, taking what he said and kind of moving it. So don't say, Chris, you said this. He just said, yeah, the city council chambers and I thought, oh, well, they do it like this. So. I mean, you know, that's a lot of staff energy, too. But no, I'm only laughing at the Finlay idea, because literally that would be the cab coming full circle, because the cab started meeting at the Finlay originally. And then we moved to the Office of Community Engagement, because it was such a great space. But now, because we need more space to make this work in person, I mean, going back to Finlay would be just makes me laugh. Yeah. Well, I think the the mention was from the Community Community Services Board. And they and their chair said that the staff have been looking to outfit the Pearson Senior Center or senior wing. For them. So it can be outfitted for them. It could potentially be outfitted for us, except for they meet the same exact day as we do. And they're running. I know we're not getting too far off topic, but we are looking at the UFO as a potential meeting space, because it's such a large there's three separate conference rooms that open into one. And so that that'll probably work. But, you know, there's also there's other spaces in in Finlay as well that might work. So OK. So I have I have standing agenda items, Neighbor Fest and Civic 101 videos. But then Cabin Community Structure, the committees, you know, Keith had mentioned the committees and all cab opportunities for bonding and then liaison plan and an outreach plan for the grant program. So I'm good. Miss. Just one quick thing to add. I want to build on to what Keith was saying. My first committee meeting, but that we're empowering, we're empowerment. And I thought we need to empower the entire cab to show up at each meeting and get engaged. And that's kind of what Keith was alluding to. So however I can help or this team can help because that seems to be a real issue since I've just been a member since since February. But maybe that's our role because we're empowering, right? Yeah, great. And and just so so Keith and Beth and Candice and everybody knows that's part of why I invited our mayor to speak at our next meeting. So partly because I hope that by seeing on the agenda that the mayor is going to be there at on our July 28th meeting would bring about a greater attendance and more enthusiasm. Also, Chris is very infectious and gregarious and and has a lot of great knowledge. He's been on cab before that's his his committee or his board that he was on prior to being elected. And he has a lot of great knowledge to share with us. So we need a quorum on July 28th in order to see through these grants. And to me, that's extremely important because we need to show have a good show for the community. They have put their trust in us and they've put their energy and their time into filling out those applications coming up with great ideas following through. This is the first of our quarter system with the community improvement project grants. So I feel like I feel great responsibility and imparting that on to Chris Rogers. He he agreed and he's going to be there to talk about just the importance of cab because sometimes, you know, it might feel a little intangible. And and and that that wasn't untrue prior to. The covid and the pandemic, but certainly during covid and the pandemic, it has become more true that it that it's hard to feel those tangible moments where we're engaged and we're empowering, you know, where we're doing the community work that we that we wanted to do when we signed up. So I'm hoping that that this meeting coming up is going to be a great start at a turning point for that. Yeah. Thank you. And if for some reason or another, we don't have quorum, you guys are going to see an ugly side of me that you've never seen before. No, don't do that. Don't make me go there because it's wasted on the people that show up. So I know what I'm saying. I know, no, I would never do that. But really, I have. I have. I'm being optimistic, like I really because this is such an important meeting for the grant program, like I'm I'm really optimistic that things will go well. So and I will send out just know that I am going to send out like a daily reminder every single day until we meet so that I can show that I did my due diligence to give people there. So if you see that, don't get annoyed. Just OK, there's her daily reminder. That's fine. For any other board, I would reply all and try to encourage them as well. But I'm allowed to do that. Yeah, yeah. I really appreciate everybody here for for continuing to show up. I mean, it is, you know, everybody's had a different personal challenges and, you know, time challenges, you know, Candice right here is a perfect example. She is I can I can feel it still. Candice, you're, you know, still whirling about what is going on right now. And I wish I could jump through the screen and give you a hug. So I appreciate you being here. And I I also want to acknowledge that we're just a couple of minutes away from seven o'clock so we can get out of here on time, too. But if Keith is facilitating. Yes, any any other item items to discuss for future meetings? No, then it looks like we're at number five adjournment. Thanks, everyone. Thank you, everybody. We're good. Yeah, do it real quick. Do a motion for adjournment. We need a second. Second. Thank you. All right. Thank you both. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor. Great. Thank you, everybody. Candice, all the best. Thank you. Take care, everyone. Bye. Bye.