 We're here in San Francisco in the beautiful Bay Area at the third annual convening for the social capital markets, also known as Socap 11. And right now it's a real treat because we're here with Pascal who is doing some incredible things and has done many incredible things aside from being a serial entrepreneur and working on multiple projects across multiple companies. Pascal's also been a venture capitalist. And today he's working on the Mozilla Innovation Accelerator Program with a bunch of, from what I can tell, creative geniuses and a team of top-notch engineers to help really help define the future of the web and explore that. And so of course, my first question is what is the future of the web? What are you working towards? It's very much, especially when you look at the web, the web being such a, still as such a new medium, it's very much up to us what we want to make out of it. And to give you just a very simple example, with the rise of the smartphones, especially iPhone and Android, we suddenly see app consumption taking the form of apps. So people don't go to websites anymore, they go to their Facebook app on their phone, which is a very different form of consumption, which to be honest, we wouldn't have imagined. It's people driving this force, basically. So short answer to your question is, I really don't know what the future is, but it is in our hands to create it, which is the exciting thing. So how do you stay on the bleeding edge then of those trends? How do you predict where it's going to be in a couple months and stay in front of it? Working with web technologies, the beauty of this is that we have the ability to prototype very, very easily and very cheaply. So it's very easy for us to say, well, we've got this weird idea of, wouldn't it be nice if I could sign into a site by clicking a button in the browser, for example? And I can have a single engineer for a single week, which is cost-wise nothing, and prototype it and play around with it and see how it feels and give it to other people. So for me, really, the creation process is very iterative. It's very quick. It needs to be very tangible. I don't like to talk too much about things, but really get into the weeds and let these things grow and build. This is a curiosity question. What brings you here? What brings you to SoCAP, to focus on the social capital markets? Looking at the entrepreneurial startup scene, especially here in Silicon Valley, and seeing incredible talent wasted, and I'm sorry to say that, but wasted on creating the next social gaming, photo sharing, mobile website, it just makes me sad. And knowing that there's so many unsolved problems in the world, it saddens me that we have entrepreneurial talent not addressed this, and that there's an abundance of entrepreneurial talent looking at kind of weird things. So I very much agree that there's a lot of raw entrepreneurial talent that isn't being leveraged in a way that has a very real impact and could. But how do you help inspire that shift? How do you get these entrepreneurs to think differently about their companies? I think there's a couple of components to this. One component which is, I think, underestimated, and I think we ought to do more about this, is understanding that I completely understand the need or the wish of an entrepreneur to say, I want to have a big payday at the end of the day. I spend 80 hours a week building this thing. I basically give up my personal life, and I want to build this thing, and I want to have some sort of exit, which I think we can address, and we need to address much, much more in social capital markets. So we need to be more creative, we need to be more inventive in terms of business models, for example. I think that there's still a huge need to be more creative with creating business models, which actually work in this environment. I think there's still this perception that if you do something socially good, or in our case, even if you do something open source, that there is no business model and there's no money. And you are like the starving left wing Che Guevara T-shirt wearing long hair dude, which is not true, right? I mean, there is enough examples of people who do great things in mixed business models, and the funny thing is Mozilla is the best example, right? Mozilla is a hybrid, non-profit organization. I mean, we are very successful at what we're doing. Well, I think with that, we're probably out of time, but this was really a privilege, and I look forward to your next conversation. Thank you so much. Thank you very much.