 The pearls of wisdom are dropping from my mouth as they're just going blue blue blue blueling from your mouth you say blue blue blue they're just dropping from my mouth. That is my head onto the floor. There's only three people here to pick up those pearls when there could be thousands, millions maybe. Billions. I don't know. I don't know. Let's turn it down. A lot of a lot of pearls. Pearls. These are conceptual pearls. A lot of pearls. Hello everyone. Are we live? Well, it really depends on your perspective. What is live? Because I didn't know if you meant that to be like a hello for us. Like another late greeting for the three of us who are with you. It's subjective. It depends on what your interpretation is. I think that when you say hello, I interpret that as a personal attack or something. Well, what's the something? That is yeah. No, I leave it purposefully ambiguous so it can be whatever I need it to be whenever I need it to be that way. I want to know what it is. Tell me. You're a sexist right now. Which one is that? Is that the one where I hate brown people? It means you hate the blacks. Yes, that is correct. I'll write that down. I always got fucked up. Because there are three sexes. Man, woman and black. That was said at some point, wasn't it? I feel like that's been said on EFAT before. Ironically or not? I can't remember why I said that. I feel like that's something I might have said. I really don't remember. I'm disappointed in myself. Oh, you know the EFAT quiz that you did. I think a fun one would be is this quote a real thing that's been said on EFAT before? Yeah, like multiple choice. That quiz is pretty damn good. Consider it and how quickly it was constructed. There's a lot of easy questions, which is good. A lot of really hard ones and a lot of fun ones. Which one was fun? I thought they were... It reminded me of school. And I didn't have fun in school because it's take this test. Do this responsible. Make this happen. Fill in the bubbles. Learn the answers. You would say that Mr. had Fs in biology. I had an A in biology because I fucked the teacher. Tell us more. No, that's it. That's all there is. It's a boring story. It's not boring. I mean, I was doing some boring. Oh, she was boring? Yeah. Wait, sorry. I assumed they are gender or zoos gender. What? How did they... Was this a person of color? Yeah, like a light beige kind of color? A beige-ish. Yeah, beige-ish. Beige-ish color. Was she a man or was he a woman? She was a teacher. She was an instructor. That's the fourth sex. Man, woman, black and teacher. I mean, if it's written in the stones of the law, you cannot deny it. I hope I don't get stones. What, like kidney stones? No, just like stones, like in my house. Everyone send rag stones. No, please don't. First off, don't send stones. Post him stones. Because if you do, the shipping will be very high because you're shipping rocks, right? That will be heavy. Well, they could be small rocks. They could be hollow rocks, yeah. Yeah. Plastic rocks. That could be a hollow rock, like a geode. You could send geodes. Yeah, send me the geodes, guys. Those are important. Those are mine. Jay eats geodes. He thinks that they're rock candy. Oh, that's my fuel. Geodes are like the crab legs of the rock world. I think peak existence for me is drinking rhino milk out of a geode. I think you'll explode if that ever happens. I don't know. I need to mess it. I need to get some new thumbnails. I want a thumbnail. I want a better thumbnail. Something more, I guess, catchy. How did you get that from what Jay was saying? Yeah. What was Jay saying? Oh, right. Now, I don't think... Mauler, if I asked you seriously what Jay was talking about, I don't think you know. I think you've already forgotten if you even knew in the first place. Drinking rhino milk out of a geode. It was very, very coherent. No, he wasn't. I'm sorry. Jay, what were you talking about? That's not what he said. That's not what he said. What was I talking about? Oh, you think that you're going to rope me into your little word game? I have already ripped you into my word game. I thought that's what we're doing is on eFap is weird games. You're playing my game and I am winning my game. You're playing my game. Well, maybe I'm losing your game, but you're losing my game because we don't know the rules. My game is where winning is losing. So I'm winning both games simultaneously. No, you're not winning my game because in my game, winning is winning. Maybe the manager. This is a good game. Yeah, well, I have a rule that stipulates that on the eighth of every month after noon, after noon, yes, it rules temporarily. You're not in Australia. Yeah. Can you define like when the evening on what planet? The evening on this planet. What part of it? The planet of denial, which is where you live. You live in the planet of denial. Thank God everything's subjective because this can be considered an intro. What are we doing today? This is going to be considered an intro. Are we live? We are live, right? Oh, yes, yes. Think about this as well. For people who like watching continuity, this is just after the 50th episode, which was like 10 years ago. So it's like, oh, welcome back everybody who survived the 50th episode. It feels like it was a long time ago. 29 hours. That was long. And it was fun. It was split into three parts. I told rag this is funny. The three episodes. Out of the three, two, there was like nine different copyright claims. I have bucked all of them off, except two that got denied back. They're on the third episode, but luckily they still allow it to be viewed. So that doesn't matter. But episode two managed to steer clear of all of that. And episode two is the super controversial one that even got reported for hate speech. So how about that? Oh, wow. Wait, that's the one where J. Longwood said nigger, right? Yes. Okay. The chat would get progressively more hyper. Well, I say with some people literally one guy was very upset. Who? Who was upset? I forget. It was posted in the discord. It doesn't really matter. It's awful. It's interesting how that works. But yeah, it was crazy. The last 10 minutes were cut off or five minutes. And I left a pinned comment talking about that. And for anything that was missed super chat wise, I'm just going to mop them up today, but I'm pretty sure they were mostly just meme words. So like they were like lost or gay or super gay. So, you know, it's fine. Like I'll read them all out. I said they sent J super chats. No. I thought he was the big buy. I'm not the big guy. I don't think so. J for the law. You're the big guy. The big guy. You're the big guy. And you were here before me. So I can't be that big. By plane. Maybe the small by. Yes. I'm like, I'm kind of like, I'm tall, but thin. You're lanky. Yeah. Oh, so, all right. So you're the fin by. Yes. Like. Well, I mean, yeah, that's, you know, someone might make a game about you eventually. We were chasing someone in the forest. That could be some. Oh, is that more of a long man with double these hat? Yes. That's like, I'm not that long. You know, you can get a lot. You're getting longer. I saw that. I saw that another life video. You can't hide from me. That was a long man. It was only an hour. We had people saying like, I could just watch the show. Why would I watch this breakdown? Why is it that I would find something? I did get a lot of people saying, you're just nitpicking. I was like, why would I watch Planet Earth? Like a documentary on life? I could just go outside. Fucking guy. Why would I ever watch the Discovery Channel when I can just walk outside and discover things? Yeah. They're going to watch, watch the lights on the streets as they walk around outside. Honestly, if you're in Australia, there's something, something, you know, life-threatening just around every corner. It's free. I think it's free. It's life-threatening. Yeah. I'm gonna shush the kangaroos off my balcony as you do in Germany. I'd like, it would be funny if you had like a TV show. There's an Australian character like on like an Xbox 360 style like, you know, in the background, you just have to hear him every once in a while hunting something down. It's like, it's a huge crashing sound. He's like, it's gone in. They're like, oh, stop and kill it. He's like, hey guys, I'm back. And you're like, what the fuck was that? Like, oh, it was just, it was just a neighbor dog. There are no lions in Australia. Not in your Australia. That's not true at all. I believe that you have zoos in Australia, correct? I see where you're going with this. You do not have zoos in Australia? Yeah. How would you know? Um, was it confirmed by Biggityus? I think that we have established previously that Australia isn't a real. Yeah, but there are lions there. It is what we call a fake. Wait, so are the lions that are there fake now or real? They are. No, there are real lions, but they're not anywhere. They're just, they're just floating. Yeah. You know what? That doesn't make sense. Yeah. I had like a shit ton of rotating guests and it actually like worked out next year if I say next year is if it's just like a guarantee, who knows what will happen. I can do it again. I actually, I was thinking about like, oh yeah, you could do the thing where everyone chooses a timeline. I feel like I'm going to come in 3 a.m. through to 6 a.m. or some shit like that. But even if they did, it would be so awkward because a lot of videos wouldn't be covered in the ways that you'd probably want them to be, as in like people would just have to leave randomly and people having to join who may not even care about the current video that's going on. They're just like, do you switch the video or do you keep it going? I'll probably end up doing it the same way I did it last time because it worked out really well somehow. I feel like Jebus was on my side. Jesus is always on your side. I don't know, Jebus. Even if you're not on his side. Jebus. Which kind of cheapens his dedication to you, I guess. I like him. If he's always on your side, no matter what. I support Jebus on Patreon. Don't worry, Jesus loves you. Jebus. Jebus. Are you an executive at Electronic Arts? Don't worry. Jesus loves you. I was like, well at that point, what value does that love have? Zero. That's all right. Well, if the person who loves you has the power to put you in heaven or hell, it's still pretty valuable. True. Actually, well, if you get there through belief and belief isn't a choice, then it's not even like, it's all, you see here's the thing. The rules are really fucked up. Yeah. I agree. Thank fuck. They're not real, right? Yeah. Thank goodness Islam is the one true religion and Muhammad is the one true prophet. Nah, I'm gunning for Mormonism. I reckon they've nailed it. This message of theology is brought to you by your friends at every frame of pause. We haven't even paused once this episode and we're already at 12 minutes. Yeah, what are we going to do? What's the plan? What's the plan? I still have things to ramble for hours. So many things. All right. It would be like it was cool that we made it to 50 episodes with a podcast that was like made and it was great. Yeah. I like the podcast is so known with this name and the name was created by and voted on by the community as well. Like how cool is that? That's okay. Yeah. I still remember. I still remember the day when we didn't even have a name. There are many options. One of the options was video response theory and I was like, man, I like that one. And what I didn't realize at the time was that that's such a specific meme that once you lose the origin of the meme, it almost becomes like just a shitty podcast name. EFAP has become the meme. We've gone full circle. Yeah. EFAP just super works because people are like, what does that stab for? Every frame of pause after they've complained. Oh, yeah. EFAP did, you know. And then people say that you've been EFAPed to people. It's like, what does that mean? Ew. I've been EFAPed. It means a man on the internet anonymously masturbated to a picture of you. Anonymously. You've been EFAPed. Noice. So yeah, overall thing was just like thanks to everybody. That was what was supposed to be on the end of episode 50, but it got cut off. And I just super appreciate all of the fanarous and like the art memes, the passion and the discussion. Every episode has a whole bunch of discussion going on in the comments section. That was kind of the original inception of this to have fun while also actually being like, hey, maybe sometimes video essay people get shit wrong and the way they approach it is really to them because I think all of us separately like to watch videos while commenting on them separately like Mystery Science Theatre style but with YouTube and then it's like why don't you do that with the public? I say this knowing that they've got all that shit coming right from where it's like you're no longer allowed to criticize content creators, isn't that coming out soon in some way and it's literally just going to destroy EFAP if that's what they're actually doing. You can't criticize people on the internet. I don't see how that's going to be implemented at all and I don't know how anybody would actually be okay with that like no matter your policy or politics I wouldn't criticize Nazis. I guess it's probably that certain people will be identified as being the bads as in like you can criticize people but you can't you know witch hunt, you can't be mean and then like random people get cut off. I wonder if EFAP counts as being evil. We are very evil. That's what the EFAP stands for. Evil frames of politics. No, no, no evil friends and patrons. No, there is no pie here. There is pizza pie. Evil friends and pizza. Evil friends and pizza pie. Well, no, that's EFAP with two P's. This is EFAP with one P. Not if it's hyphenated. Why would you hyphenate that? Why wouldn't you? To make the acronym. There's loads of people in chat saying play AKBAR's theme. Play AKBAR's theme. People have been speculating they're genuinely concerned is this the beginning of season 4 or 5 and it's like guys obviously the beginning of season 4 and season 3 was nice and long. What is the difference between a hyphen and a dash? The different words that you use to shut up. I agree. Surely there's a difference between the two, right? No, they're the same key. They're the same character. They're the same key. Yeah, well the M and the W are the same key. They're just flipped upside down. No, they're different keys. You put your fingers in different places to press them. No, they're not. It's the same thing. They're not just flipped upside down. The M is straight. The W is spread out a little bit. No, not on this keyboard. Well, you have a bad keyboard. Well, my keyboard with the W has a nice up arrow on it because I'm an epic gamer. Oh yeah, same for me. I'm an epic gamer too. I have buttons on my epic gamer keyboard that change the lighting of WASD specifically. And then you could change the lighting of all the other keys that aren't WASD. You're not special. I have the same keyboard. You forget where they are. I didn't say I was special. I am special just not specifically for this reason. Because you can play a bass with your penis. How many chromosomes do you have? I can play a bass with my penis. That was before we went live. They're not going to know the context. Rags performed a lovely solo for us. It was magical. I enjoyed my penis solo. I saw a frustrated comment. So I said when we were covering Jim Stirling we got into talking about consoles versus PC at one point. And I made the very controversial statement that I kind of hate consoles because of how much they've held PC back or at least PC gaming. And someone was like, that's a really stupid statement. That's like saying sports cars hold back casual cars. So what I mean when I say that consoles have held back PC gaming is that when you're designing or developing a game and you build it for PC alone, you'll be able to use all of PC's components to the best of your ability. When you make a game that's going to be across the market, making it for PC and then porting it to consoles is extremely complex, difficult and probably impossible for certain games. However, if you build it for console and then port it for PC it's much easier because PC pretty much guarantees it'll be able to run it. PC already outclasses whatever the console is going to be able to do anyway so it's just a matter of optimization at that point. So what I'm saying is developers would have been like, well fuck if our main goal is to sell the game let's just make it for the consoles and back in the day developers would often be like, PC fuck off we're going for the market share of Xbox 360, PS3 and the Wii you know? Mauler, before you continue, just to remind me what was the point you're trying to make? People were upset that I said that I was pissed at consoles for like existing in the first place because how much they held back PC when it comes to games. Yeah, we have had confirmation from developers from like Dyson and places like that that yeah, of course, I mean even when you think about it even if you take all that aside think about if you have to build a game that has to run an extremely capable system that's very customizable to the user's desires but also you have to also build that game so that the specifications of some shitty already outdated when it releases game box can handle it as well and you're obviously going to have to build things so that the lowest common denominator can run it. Also I'm very, I have like a rudimentary understanding of all of it anyway and even I know that this is like true facts you know, hashtag true facts hashtag objective opinion hashtag true facts If someone I could bring on someone who knows a lot more about this they'd probably be able to argue in detail how much consoles kind of fucked things up in terms of slowing everything down but hey, it's not like I didn't own and play a console so I'm not saying that I didn't you know engage with them too I'm just saying Just ask yourself this question, if you had if the consoles that we had today were three times as powerful as they are now would games run differently and would games be different? The question is obviously yes they would There you go, there's the answer to your question Also, not to mention stuff like just guys, Bloodborne running at 30 FPS at its best and 20 a lot of times, it's like come on and imagine they had built Bloodborne from the ground up for PC Hoah A game that runs at 60 for me is like low and frustrating But yeah, hopefully that explains that The other thing about the Jim Stirling stuff which I think you guys will find more interesting I don't know if you saw the coverage rags but I prefer uncoverage Jay was there and Alex and who was the fourth person for me? Yes So Jay's the only person who would probably know what I'm referencing but yeah, basically one of the arguments being that um blind people, people with harder abilities to see disabled people are not going to be able to join this market this wonderful market So it's doomed to fail Someone on Twitter Mark the Cyborg who I believe has commented and super-chatted before sent me a tweet Mark the Cyborg sent you a tweet Let's check it out We'll finally know why he's called Mark the Cyborg but he says Sorry I'm listening to part 1 on Moola now and fun fact about my Cyborg journey I bought a Vive specifically because I lost a leg and wanted to train my prosthetic playing games like Robo Recall worked quite well and now I can pass a military fitness test So we have an example You know what's interesting about losing your leg is that now you have another leg that's a replacement that's oddly enough easier to lose than your first leg Like you could actually misplace your new leg I see what you mean So if you can't keep track of your first leg then I don't know how people manage to keep track of their second leg which is way easier to lose Just put it on a leash Obviously I just thought it was interesting to highlight the fact that there are people out there who not only is Jim ignoring people who can just play VR weather or not they don't have legs because there's a lot of VR games that don't require you to move but also people who have lost lives use it to their benefit because it offers something that non VR games don't Also imagine you wanted to hide something well now you can hide things inside of your fake leg drugs bare nuts maybe some loose change hidden weapons you can take it off and beat people with it it's really a lot more multi purpose than your original leg is I'm just imagining Jim Sterling now seeing a wheelchair and going wow this really hasn't considered disabled at all what about people with no arms they can't use this what about people with no asses they're supposed to sit on it huh you think Jim Sterling thinks about people with no asses I don't know I don't think he does this I don't think much I feel like people with no asses have got bigger worries Also I can't remember if we talked about this before but surely by now Rags you would have had your monthly thrust let me check actually I think that's a good point I should have gone through by now for context Rags became a patron of tonal bloke and he chose the tier that provides him a monthly thrust and I believe that was a news update or some kind of something let me see tone loke okay it's not downward do you think he is aware that the name monthly thrust is funny I wonder if he wrote it he was like that sounds cool yes tone alright well on August the 23rd there was an audio log update cool he covered the topics of state of the channel which he's never covered before my life outside youtube wow classic update oh no I think he's referring I read that incorrectly oh wow classic yes this is the wow which is a abbreviation for world of warcraft classic update oh he covers gaming addiction and he covers state of the industry in 2019 so that's not the monthly thrust that's true there is however a comment on this post that says if that wasn't the best goddamn audio vlog I ever heard and then it goes on and on and on they loved the audio log huh they really liked it now on June 17th now we got from August there was a patreon vlog number 3 I feel as if I feel as if I might be I might be bamboozled bamboozled great tonal has tricked you legendary level 3 patron $5 or more per month your name in my videos and I get I want to see your name in one of his videos yeah that's why I had it I want that there the monthly thrust a once a month article written by tonelok and delivered to the patreon typically will be related to the gaming industry I guess that's just the audio log because it says an article written by tonelok maybe he wrote and then recorded it maybe hmm I don't know I feel as if I might this is why my patreon it's just like if you just want to support me give me stuff there's not like rewards for it really yeah I can get confused I don't want to promise thing pay me one dollar and you can be part of my discourse fuck off I'm pretty sure wait rags don't you have that no I don't oh okay good for a second that's all quick I would have still bought it I would say however that I would say that my discord is worth the admission fee even there even though there isn't one it would be worth one so obviously it is a high quality discord I believe and according to scorn rags apparently fake limbs do get checked for drugs oh yeah you wouldn't be able to hide for long in there no matter how many no no no no no no that is incorrect mauler no jay the idea why would you do what a terrible alternative that isn't necessary the idea that you wouldn't be able to hide them right because how often does your fake leg get checked for drugs if you have a fake leg I don't know I would I would wager extremely rarely and you would probably know if it was coming right you walk into maybe a courtroom or a plane I don't know something official like that you know something with a security checkpoint you wouldn't just be living out your normal daily life and randomly be stopped to see if your fake leg had drugs in it you wouldn't need to hide it in a fake leg at that point then would you no no no no no that's incorrect I will you get stopped by random people they search your bags no absolutely not you are not going to walk down the street brandishing drug paraphernalia in the open right but you would even putting something in your pocket can be hiding it putting something in your fake leg would be hiding it too no one's just going to randomly stop you and check for drugs that was our point right just put it in your pocket you could if you wanted to yeah if you wanted to yeah so what's the problem the problem is that you suggested hiding it in the leg when we could just hide it anyway and then if you could you could hide it in your leg because no no no no this all started because someone said you wouldn't be able to hide it there because you'd be constantly checked it's like no nobody said anything about constantly checked you said you'd get checked all the time nope I write out that you get checked and it ended with probable cause the only reason they said that is because you already suggested hiding stuff in your leg no no I said it ended I never got a chance to read out the probable cause part you never said probable cause I never had a chance to I was interrupted so I was correct no I mean if you don't believe it it's not tiring to always be correct it is tiring to always constantly have to prove it to everyone you said constantly searched I never said that word so it's not even in there constantly erect constantly erect which is something that you would have to hide in your fake leg we all go through that your erection is so big that you have to stuff it down your leg and curl it into the inside of your fake leg oh they cover that and super bad you can just let it scroll up and just get trousers to sort of just you know when you guys have seen it like loop it around like have it hanging like a kill boss just make a bell out of it what I'm saying snap CJ's in the chat hello CJ how would you do I was asked the other day which is the worst video we covered on eFab we get asked this a lot we usually say the jack same video and I was thinking the fan wants to make one of those crazy tier listing things and you have like all the people we've covered on eFab that could be pretty cool to actually tier them just for memes that would take a while but it would be fun because we would have like we would actually try and rate them we'd be like yeah well they do this I think we could probably we would probably have a good top five we would have to do two separate ones though because like we'd have to do like like meme potential video making ability or something like that because tonal does like top tier while simultaneously being bombed here especially because I'm not getting my patreon reward I will email tonal bloke and say where is my monthly thrust my monthly thrust I'll have to unironically ask the stranger on the internet for my monthly thrust I'm so sorry that you've been brought that low like that's that's fucked up everyone should be getting their monthly thrusts that they're owed down low um oh yeah so okay so you guys are gonna love this so during the 50th stream I'm get I can't I don't know who who like did the job of finding it out and sending sending people over but hello Greta was streaming while we were covering one of his videos oh I remember that and um southpaw, blessed southpaw did a compilation of just highlights from people visiting his stream and uh this is this is quite the funny if um if y'all want to jump into the watch together I am very excited as should everybody be this shit is gold give me a sec oh my god this is ephapception love it okay here we go I just want to point out that hello Greta was streaming on minecraft right now leave him alone he was coming into his let him build in peace guys people are going into his chat I'm reading them there's a guy saying they hate bloggers honestly not only would he be welcome to come on we would treat him very civilly absolutely slice and dice brothers what the fuck is all this is there a podcast oh my goodness does he play his games what's the point of the face cam if you're wearing a helmet that is a very good question also that's a legitimate question unless the visors are like almost clear on his head oh yeah because it'll mess the color up because you're looking through a dark lens so sitting at your desk face cam so people can see my face but I don't want people to see my face so I'm going to put something over it maybe you can get a face rig or something like that it's purple lights but he's got his room right there what's the point oh yeah he has a fisheye lens why I don't know maybe he's just got a really weirdly curvy room maybe he's incompetent and he bought a camera with a fisheye lens he didn't realize like the base of the store it's like this is a fisheye lens he's like it's a good lens no no no fisheye lens alternate hypothesis he is so dense that everything in the room is curling and he's sat in that chair for so long it has just created this warped visual effect of everything bending inwards when you said dense people were going to assume it was an insult but no you went the scientific route and I'm proud of you yes all I'm trying to say is that I think that Hello Greedo has a density that is rivaled only by the bottom third of the periodic table Christo04002283 just says join eFab and Rhino and then Milk out of context what the fuck are you supposed to think of this because they would be thinking there's not an R or an M in eFab so I don't understand what it could possibly stand for yeah if you didn't know what eFab was as well it was like join the fab join the eFab, join Rhino what the fucking play Minecraft right now do people who are dense get to vote twice yes don't confuse me with density GreedoMask who's in the garage may the dawn bless you may the dawn bless you may the dawn bless you where are the mods dude my mods are cool as shit if somebody's not saying something horribly nasty or spamming the same shit over and over again it's you're free to say whatever seriously they're genuinely interested in talking let me scroll it genuinely interested in talking with I would like to point out that somebody in his video game has said that real men drink corona with lime alright yes I'd like to point out that tie fighter is asymmetrical I would like well one two three four one two three four it is well it is asymmetrical yeah they fucked up it's got the line on one side but not on the other side yeah I'm counting the blocks on one side of the corner yeah they fucked up not even the number of blocks it's literally like one has a horizontal line of stone and the other side doesn't J I won't expect a J on Minecraft to be like you fucked it up fucked it up EFAP has come to the point where we're critiquing people's Minecraft spaceships this is peak EFAP right there however I feel like a Minecraft aficionado myself who I consider myself an expert in landscaping mostly that this is an architectural blunder of the highest degree I would have abandoned this project eons ago well not before burning it to the ground surely stone doesn't burn like all you can do yeah rocks burn yeah rocks burn I'd say man like that sounds like you just gave up nether rack burns yeah well that's not stone it's sort of is yeah nether rack is definitely a type of stone it's definitely a type of stone yeah but this is stone specifically there's no stone in this image there's no stone in this image that is cobblestone no that's not cobblestone that's andesite breaking news why would you use andesite not polished andesite though if you're using it for construction purposes this is creative andesite has polished andesite has like edges on it so it will look like you'll like divide up the different blocks and that's not what you want you're like a nice flow of the same texture I think this looks better I don't think so right I challenge you to a Minecraft type to build off well for starters my wings will match guys I have breaking news what not that important but still really funny so um do you remember way back when uh rags when we had that guy on who um who said there's only one definition for woods oh yes the x guy that was hilarious he was yeah he was he was a he was a he was good sport and um as far as I'm aware he considered his time on ephab to be fun it was great however you you know good old mr just right yes he uh he apparently knows dx um and so when he heard that dx was was considering coming on to ephab to talk to us about his video he was at the time yes uh just right put out a tweet now that tweet went away very quickly and nobody managed to snap it but someone looked in their history and they were able to see this this is from theo by the way um and it's been passed along to theo from someone else but I find this theo was on ephab theo was on ephab indeed but look at that that you can go to a don't do it oh just right you're such a just right you're such a little bitch I know you're such a little don't talk to them who knows what they'll do you're such a you you spineless jelly-legged cowardly yellow-bellied little bitch what a what a what a disgrace for masculinity that you are what an absolute joke of a person you are just right you should be a shame if I was you I would just be ashamed of myself to think that I was that cowardly and my take is just like really just right our conversation was pretty civil it's just that you had no preparation for your own ideas about art analysis and you fucked up several times and because of that what we're persona non grata now that's cool you're as I I won't is like after I got my ass stomped by wolf and moller and a discussion about the last Jedi where I verbally outwardly spoke a sentence and phrase that undermined the entire point of my channel and all that I do and now I have to go on a crusade and make sure that other people don't have discussions with the people you fucking deleted it quickly after it just to clarify I feel this is kind of important not not totally but kind of was this before or after wolf yelled that just right was a faggot I mean I don't know what are you referencing is that was that on a podcast or is that yeah when when you guys covered his objectivity video oh that what yeah this would have been after that yeah oh wolf called me a faggot I can't talk to him I mean anything that proves my point there's like there's degrees right and I feel like that takes it down one I don't really like everyone has different values when it comes to that whole thing if someone's like you've crossed the line I can never speak to you ever again then but wolf was perfectly friendly to him in in the two hours that they talked to each other as far as was it an hour and a half something like that that's the thing it's like you know like just the fact that he was like clearly kind of like pissed off that oh wait Sao Paul just said before I might have been wrong on this because oh yeah we covered the DX video first was that the same podcast well I'm gonna have to check my history now if a good question there was 48 the wolf said that when did we meet and cover DX was it 48 was it 47 I think it's from my mind it's 47 but I'm not super sure EFAP 47 yeah we definitely covered just right video in that one and then when did DX come in who was who was also here when we when we talked to DX um myself Mahler Theo think chat says 47 as well oh yeah so we talked to him at the beginning of it um and then just right was called a massive in the later portion so yeah it was before that wait hang on um no carry on well I mean so that means the degree is brought back up by one right okay but yes yes yeah right now we've already established what he is it's just a matter of degrees of intensity cowardly as fuck but okay just right don't want your opinions challenged go for it of course because no opinion can be wrong right so no no judgment can be made in a faulty manner raja said homosexuality will always be a mental disorder um anyway back on with see hello gritos a little more fun than just right um he has an aloofness to him that does make him more entertaining I mean this video is pretty fun yeah you're free to say whatever seriously they're genuinely interested in talk let me shit it's going too fast let me scroll up genuinely interested in talking with you they're streaming right now any interest they'll be on for the next few hours so it doesn't have to be jaguars play literally in 15 minutes that's why I started this stream when I did so I could uh get off and play or watch the jaguars play some football um but yeah I mean maybe in the future I don't know what the fuck it's great obviously they got a lot of listeners if they're just continue you can hear like the music in the back like that the typical minecraft music in the back that hey it's it's just like man he checks all the boxes streaming with the mask on music in the background yeah and the uh the ui well I say you are you know the the presentation is he's got always ticked all the twitch boxes very familiar side for me the uh the tie fighter isn't joined to its dish in the center it's joined too low that is correct it is not that you know sort of like that could really just drive someone insane I would have given up I would you know you can go there's like online there's online like graph paper that you can just tick the boxes on and double check and you can look at a you could draw it out on paper and then recreate it in the actual minecraft to make sure that you know it's all there put the fucking thing in the middle like you can plan ahead to do this stuff and you can also you know you can recognize the failure and then start to rebuild on top of it and chip away at the old mistakes you know but it looks like he's just given up and been like ask him well look oh look we're not it's just like we're being critical of his tie fighter yes we're being critical of your fire also aren't tie fighter wings are they're not like they're not um symmetrical in the sense that they're equal circles they're like dishes they're they're taller than they are wide that depends it depends on the um maybe this is a model we don't know about maybe it's an EU model i don't know yeah i'm pretty sure tie fighters are supposed to be square on the wings right not supposed to be rounded they're octagons no they're not they're hexagons and then the tie interceptors are the fucking cool looking ones well normal tie fighters are octagon they do have octagon wings no they're hexagon wings no you could you can you can even look here and you can count the eight sides yeah but that's not a normal tie fighter google tie fighter and you'll see that they have six sides on each of the wings i thought it was four i must be imagining shit well this is a regular tie fighter one two three oh you're right yeah it is it is yeah he did fuck up so the tie the tie bombers are octagonal the might be a that might be a different kind of tie fighter that's just not i suppose it's tough kind because there's so many well there yeah the the tie fighters are hexagons the tie bombers are octagons the tie interceptors are let me take it out which ones are octagons the tie bombers well well Darth Vader's tie fighters octagonal yeah i think the bombers are too i think you're right i think the bombers are as well they just have a second like pod that's not that's clearly not what he's built though that looks way different what is advanced i oh that's a fan mate so let me look at it right we're discussing all this way like you know recently mentioning just right it was like people don't even know what a Y-Wing is alright so the target interceptors would be octagonal except they have the cut out sections in the front that give them the points so really they're one two three four five six seven eight nine ten so they would have ten so they're but yeah i'm assuming this is supposed to be a tie fighter and he i don't know why he didn't check but he made it octagonal instead of maybe he's just having fun what what is i'm sorry what is that can you define fun i don't understand that way fun is not allowed we're e-fap yeah fun so to recap tie fighters are hexagonal tie bombers and vaders tie fighter are octagonal tie interceptors are decagonal decagonal ten decided shape no don't look it up it tends a decagon so decagonal alright what about the tie what about the tie defender someone in chat wants me to ask you that tie defender a tie defender i like to think that at least 60 percent of chat are actually invested in this oh that's ten defender let's go tie defender i just looked at like 35 fighters none of them look like this so there you go these are decagonal as well these are also decagonal wings they just have an extra wing coming off the top and it looks retarded it looks a bit yeah it looks a bit dumb i mean it adds to it looks like it adds two cannons which percent twice is a pretty hefty increase in fire now and i assume well i don't know it just seems cumbersome it's almost like a meme looking tie fighter um i don't know i found this though i think this is funny it's that's the tie molar right yeah people want me to acknowledge the tie molar what the fuck is that hang on do those like little wings the things that make it fly why those those aren't wings that provide lift tie stands for twin ion engine idiot so i believe i don't think that those are actually do you remember rags durable and no it makes it makes sense that you think they're wings and i mean you look at that and is like yeah it's clear oh i found like an image of all of the different ties rags remember red let me do when mike asks if rich knows what i stands for when he says twin ion engine he's like fuck it i just remember i just know it i'm really i'm really good at that sort of thing i guess any of these look like hello gritos that gets to the bottom of this that's what i said like god that image is horrible why did you it looks like he's trying to do a tie fighter because the wings are straight maybe it's pretty clear that he's doing that we're trying to help it we're like maybe it was this one war there's one with one wing in the middle and two cockpits on either side yeah one as well that's insane why not at this point that's like a sandwich where the meat is on the outside you pick up the piece of bread both the meats fall off you're like i don't know why i did this it's a bad idea if the ion engines i assume like the little panels those are the bits that are twin right this is a bad image there's no time all are in there i think the ion engines are part of the interior cockpit because the whole point of the twin ion engines is that they allow propulsion with it to in any direction i disagree not like thrusters per se yeah but aren't those surely those surely that's why they have those wide bits out there what else were they before i don't know it's i'm not sure but then you know the one with only you know the one with the three that still gets to be called a tie fighter because you know just try ion engines right you know so i don't i don't know if those reach um and then that's a tie fighter no it is i've decided and then the one with only one the managers decide i fight it because it's it's only got one so it has to just be an i fighter an ion engine fighter i fight being an ion engine yeah it makes sense it was important that we went through this obviously oh my god i found one with red wings i think no i haven't i haven't i saw the one with red wings red wings yeah red wings that's crazy was red wings the name of that george lucas film or i think it's something else i want to get like a oh yeah here's a cross section so red tail it looks like so it looks like the wings is basically the wings are solar arrays um energy collectors heat exchange matrices um and energy accumulator lines that all made sense to me they look really silly without the wings they'd just be like little balls going ooh let's see how it is because i because i from bot let me look at a tie fighter rear view they're a mining guild tie fighter it's a yellow mining guild tie fighters yeah anyway am i good at first play on this video no we have to talk about tie fighters yeah i'm super invesant now but i don't see the toxic brood assault hello grido shut the fuck up moner is you're actually looking for something or should i just press play i'm not really looking for anything at all no right i don't know what the fuck obviously they got a lot of listeners if they're just continuously draining their asshole into this chat right now draining their asshole we didn't even like said people we just said leave them alone we carried them we didn't tell them to go anywhere but we drained our asshole i've never heard someone explain that draining their asshole he's calling our audience shit no he's calling the thing they're doing shit no he said we are draining our asshole we're draining our assholes because our chat is going over there he is indirectly calling our audience shit when our audience is probably the best audience that's ever been yeah i was gonna say best audience on youtube it's like wow according to shit or just asking who's shit are you friends with him does he often give you recommendations let's assume that shit was male i never did why would you ever imply that shit could not be male shit can be whatever they want to be they they well i don't think this has been established how could you say something so horrible i'm very practiced much fun analog teak thank you for the super chat shem sport don bless praise be to tunnel what is this shit tunnel i know is that is that a suppository that you stick up your asshole or is that suppository it's weird that he'd go there first that's all i'm saying why does he have a fascinate well i mean i do too but why does he have a fascination with asshole he probably he probably doesn't even lick him i was gonna say does he even take off the mask i don't know that's a suppository going into the rhinos asshole everyone who disagrees with grito is a troll apparently it's pretty obvious that you guys have never been on these streams and maybe don't really know the vibe of this channel but that is no you don't know the stream look at those two of the minecrafters looking depressingly on this mouthful we're being healthier against our will oh my god i've noticed another asymmetry no stop which one look at the diagonal lines on the diagonal line to the top left they handed a different place on each side that's quite the eyesore actually one of them has got ends in between the little diagonal lines and one of them ends on it so one of them has got a little clump of three blocks all together and one of them is not if the emperor saw this he'd be pissed it's odd that a channel that devotes itself pretty much entirely to star wars would fuck up a tie fighter so much well it's minecraft though does he do anything about minecraft on this channel you don't have to do anything about minecraft i was gonna say it's not exactly rocky science to understand binary colors each wing maybe each of them built one of them and now why would they do it that way however i still i still feel as if this is hello grado stream which does make him the director and it does it is kind of his responsibility the buck stops with everything is his fault and he should be responsible including his chat all eventually does fall onto him yes the furthest thing from the truth ever but hey enjoy it guys spin whatever you want to spin what in the flying fuck i appreciate the super chats you silly gooses if i ever do the what is it e-fap i'm gonna have to talk to them about all the silly rhinos and anime characters anime characters what the fuck what is he talking about he sees rhino milk and he's like that's so anime reminds me of a rhino milk anime the dawn is anime totaled totaled that invade live streams we even literally haven't said anything bad to him they haven't they haven't said anything bad about you at all actually i've seen this before and i know he doesn't take offense to it so no i know but referring to it is the invasion he said invade he said the word invade that was an answer channel sport i greatly appreciate that hello grado are you a massive be honest i don't know what the fuck he reads them he reads them with this such a lack of enthusiasm and passion i don't know what the fuck a massive is i look free to are you a massive feel old a massive urban dictionary a minecraft with a fucking stormtrooper helmet on yeah so he's checking urban dictionary for the definition of massive people collective Jamaican origin you think i'm Jamaican that's my favorite what no but i appreciate the super chat and channel support this afternoon or this evening man important to note that the chat has told him that the 24 hour e-fap will be continuing after the Jaguar game so just saying that is not an excuse is that really what that means no why the hell do you think it means you're a Jamaican absolutely is what yes that is definitely what we mean that you are Jamaican Jamaican meet mad hello greeter i'm sorry that can't be what that means a massive somebody translate here he means fat no i'm about i've been 95 pounds i'm good i'm alright i'm glad to clarify that eric stewart thank you for the super chat channel support don media well like okay look at the crash chip there that's nicely built is it hang on is this the og battlefront map yes this is the og battlefront map i'm pretty sure that there's a hell of a lot of things from it if they were trying to but like it's clearly not done right why would there be a giant high fighter randomly yeah and also there's an ATST yeah what the fuck jay they had ATSTs on that also i can't hear can't hear me no there was one behind the little behind the big arena there was an ATST was it usable oh wait sorry i'm mixing that up i'm talking about the battlefront vision not his vision the original star was battlefront we don't want more sizely right or use almost anything else more sizely in the first battlefront it had one ATST not in that place that one actually is but you could drive it there if you wanted to and then it had a crash chip next to a big like round building which is why i'm thinking it's that map because that that crash chip looks exactly like maybe it's in progress yeah i mean i assume it's not why a giant high fighter though that's yeah i'm not sure about it well i don't i don't remember an ATST on more sizely i swear it was an ATST now you might be thinking of duncey no not duncey because behind the big coliseum there was there was definitely a big vehicle that you could use i'm fairly confident it was an ATST but it might have been if that was a rebel command post it could have been something else i don't know the maps from battlefront one as well as i do too i don't know i can't i can't quite remember but i don't i don't recall one oh my god i searched more sizely still as battlefront and all i'm getting is the new shit oh no i'm so sorry he's gonna boot up my xbox now wait really i i can't i cannot remember um star wars battle surely chat can let us know surely there's people in chat who remember i have been i have been having a look i haven't seen any definitive answers so i can see the vehicle spawn so there's definitely a vehicle spawn in the place that i know it is but would it but would it spawn an ATST because i would be the vehicle i would say that you could have a tank i think there was a tank on the level like um like the club like the um the separatist had their yes i found it i found it i found it um on the wiki it says the map vehicles star wars battlefront only clone was a at galactic civil war at st okay that's weird how come i don't remember it that's odd did you play mostly number one or number two i'll tell you pfp rags well thank you also hi desk bullshit how do you do we've got we've got a whole selection of regulars on this one how wonderful i'm sorry chat we had no choice we had to bring in these people they just they paid to be he had a choice i voted against it i needed attention please rags voted for it to just be himself and i was like maybe maybe it was a great stream could have been a magical stream we're currently watching hello grito deal with massives massives everywhere he means fat no i'm about 195 pounds and almost 62 i'm good i'm alright eric steward thank you for the super chat and channel support don media blessed be the cosmic chicken why are why are people so fucking weird how dare you why are people so fucking weird said the guy live streaming with a webcam his minecraft world while wearing a storm trooper helmet in his white pinkly lit room i mean everyone has their own thing their own style yeah yeah and that's weird the cosmic chicken and he has pink room he has some bullshit what's a good rap though but i just i just feel like live streaming minecraft wearing a storm trooper helmet does sort of put you in the category of maybe before you call other people weird for giving you money maybe maybe be like yeah i am doing all this weird or is it just strange like how far into the into the bizarre are we um it's just a weird why what's the difference between strange and weird i figured you would know that you know it's like degrees of bizarro right like which is more unusual strange or weird chat someone help me i don't know in terms of deviation from normalcy weird is weird weird or strange weird is more weird than strange i'm saying weird i'm saying weird yeah strange is almost like okay weird is like confirmed to be strange i'd say weird is more vulgar so if you had for instance if you were a united states air force official and you were writing up a document to submit to the pentagon about a a not an identified flying object citing you would call it strange before you would call it weird exactly i feel like that is an apt hypothetical that we're both odd odd that's the opposite of even i would say strange before odd yeah however i would rank odd better than weird mm-hmm like if you were at a if you were at a party and there was a if there was someone who was unusual right you would go to your friend and you'd say that's an odd that's an odd character before you'd say that's a weird dude no i think i'd say weird first well yeah that's because you're vulgar that's because you don't know anything about class and you don't know anything about the proper decorum in those kinds of situations about like peculiar peculiar would be an excellent way to phrase it absolutely peculiar would be fantastic i'm very much favor of the word peculiar i would even say queer abnormal abnormal i wouldn't say abnormal abnormal generally has the connotation that has like maybe almost like a medical connotation like unusual doesn't like abnormal has a different implication to unusual i feel irregular atypical for instance being gay is abnormal it's true define define normal well at that point i'm assuming means most common is normal a normal is normal a synonym with common or conspicuous maybe you could say conspicuous with is normal just within the realms of like something that you might encounter and like not not be like hmm this is unusual i suppose you could probably define it in multiple ways right and unusual would be a deviation from typical if you meet if you meet a gay person you're gonna be like what the fuck would you say what the fuck to everything this abnormal okay so what degree is it like yeah sure like if if uh because if something is like really abnormal in a way that's like noteworthy being gay isn't like so unusual that you're like you're actually gonna make a deal out of it it's not like whoa you're gay whoa really you don't point to them and say you're abnormal no i don't i've only done that like three times i don't typically use the term normal i use the term average but i don't know what the antithesis is well i feel like average is more like it's like a mean number no average and mean are different mathematically yeah you could quantify average no are they the same shit no i i think average is more of a mathematical connotation to it the mean i think is the most common value and the average is if you add them all by the number of values you have i think it's a whole set of names for that too right like let me see i think the median is the median is the halfway point between your highest and lowest value mean is average to median is the middle well mean is the average number median is the middle value of all the ones that you have and the mode is the value that occurs the most times i remember being taught this i've forgotten all of it though yeah that's because you never use this in your daily life like ever we just did we just did yeah we did it only took us and you might say you might say it was abnormal in which we used it we didn't talk we didn't use it we just talked about it well because both mean and average refer to the sum of all the values using by the rags just use the knowledge of it to regurgitate sad knowledge to us we didn't yeah it's almost like it's almost like if you had a rule that said you couldn't talk about the rules so fast right now this is this is some shit that people probably want well they probably went a way in on it stopped i think it was just loading slowly for me and then went because it was like it was it was crazy it was insane it was like a it's like a sea of chat so anyway back to the guy streaming in her hello grito every time we cover hello grito we go on long ass tangents about everything else because of how insanely uninteresting he is and it's not our fault it's not our fault that would be victim blaming really you're welcome to come on e-fap whatever you want hello grito yes but we what would have it would be it would be it would be embarrassing of us as guests if you have to focus and we had these strange tangents while he was here and we actually forgot that he was a part of just imagine like come on man what's with this type idea come on well no uh zack gilbert thank you for the super chat channel support e-fap means bro what i like it's a very real laugh he could say you can tell he's like oh sure i'm supposed to react to this he's about to say the thing bathwater this is the most internet as that's that's a descriptive this is the most internet this chat has ever been really wow he needs a tame existence and i'm kidding i thought friends were just watching him apparently the e-fap audience is very internet the field is a very internet a very internet this is indeed on the internet i want a newspaper get ready get set we're going on hell is this chat you and me both kory praise the cosmic chicken praise the dawn toxic brood thumbs up yeah i'm so lost too like the chat wasn't there and this just infected his mind and this is like the e-fap disease he thinks about this that night like cosmic chicken as he's sleeping with his helmet he's praising the dawn flee from goliath what can goliath do for you ask not what goliath can do for you ask what you can do for goliath it is that's the perfect way to describe it this is the most internet this chat has ever been huh will somebody like no shit will somebody explain to me the rhino milk thing i'm super curious how does one explain that it's really the quickest you can go is it to me well hold up why don't we have jay explain rhino milk to all of us it's delicious you described it in a way so there was a day when i wanted to destroy moorla with facts and logic and so i did that by uh saying that you know obviously the reason they have rhinos and wakanda is for their milk and for their ivory and that meat that's the holy trinity of an animal is milk ivory meat if you'd explain this much so far i'd agree it would be like hey he wouldn't understand but he would just want you to continue to get it over with and then the rhino milk grew into what it is now by being repeated and every time it was repeated it became more powerful as is power of an ifa meat and until the point where it reaches critical mass and starts dying off we're still waiting for that rhino milk is not dying off for some reason it's still in here rhino milk peaked a while ago whenever anything happened on the stream people would just be like thing milk and that doesn't happen anymore i think that rhino milk got some staying power i just see like when people when we were talking about religion earlier we were seeing christian milk in the chat christian milk when totald said the uh but at the end of the rainbow people posing rainbow milk don't forget the spider milk the apex homo milk the smaller memes do you drop off though oh yeah but you know smaller memes just they cannot compete with the big memes it's a doggy dog world out there and meme land think of it as like agario that game it's like all little circles like they're all memes and rhino milk is like one of the biggest memes there and it's just eating the smaller memes i like that you needed to use agario for that yeah it's a it's a harsh world like rick said it's it's really harsh some some memes we can't even reference the ones that have been eaten because we've forgotten them should you like a an efap games of dot io game an efap like yes yes whatever you just said it's really welcome to try again that makes sense yeah yeah yeah just do an efap games of dot io games like agario this music the background is fucking killing me by the way i know it's terrible it's just like everything on screen for me it's like there's like one two three four windows on the right then you have like four things on the bottom like instagram twitch stay on target why? stay on target stay on target hello grito my stream is like the complete opposite my webcam that's it hello grito appears one two three four five times not including himself that is four links at the bottom and then in case it hadn't sunk in yet a red hello grito that looks like a space for something though does something appear there i know maybe whenever he arrives it says hello grito hello hello grito hello hello loosen up no i'm going to grab alcohol because i feel it i mean do we all have access to such oh well mel's working tomorrow also i drank all day last night all day last night yeah i just realized how stupid i was and i hope no one would notice i'm gonna grab that shit well we're not live don't worry oh great there's just like a glitch all these random things getting posted into my chat like this is weird emoji glitch post like rhino milk i don't know what the fuck that is what are those two bozos doing oh they're both muted wow i don't know having the sexy milk break dragon someone burst into each of their rooms saying how dare you go on that nazi podcast and start slapping them metal drinking what else is new i'm actually not drinking right now i read what the reddit said about you nazis who don't like some movies and like some we like some art but not some other art there's people out there that if they were given the choice to kill the like one person on this earth they would be like can it be two can it be rags and mohler they've destroyed everything can i just kill them halfway each it's like you could erase one piece of media from the world in order to make it a better place and they're like e-fab as a whole it's like ah would it be mohler's channel rags channel e-fab because that's the stressed out face about to press the button they're all so terrible they'll still spread their nazi influence no matter what i can't wait to be cancelled one day oh yeah it's gonna happen for all of us i'm looking forward to it episode nine is great and then my whole channel will just be filled with comments about being cancelled i'm like guys the character developer is cancelled cancelled that sounds like you're talking about something bad we were talking about your life the whole we were at the last chance i'm pretty bad you basically say that episode nine is really well written when it's not and then you get cancelled and we all try and defend you but it's too late and you're gone you leave the internet because everyone says you're cancelled don't tell vips how many Minecraft videos do you make jay? yeah jay what the fuck my latest Minecraft video has like all of the people have seen it how has the Minecraft community felt about your video? there are strongly mixed feelings there are strongly mixed feelings there are strongly mixed feelings a Minecraft youtuber I used to watch said that he didn't like it and i was like oh is it because your information is limited is that why jay? is it because a lot of you watched your video and they were like jay you didn't explain how to use the spreadsheet you just said to do it jay you suck did you play Minecraft? is that what this is about? he's a phony he's never actually played the game really? yep never played it you've never played Minecraft i told him today we'd be covering a video that mentions Minecraft so he needs to read up and that's why he was making all these weird comments i've never actually played Minecraft i have played Minecraft i've got like too many hours in that game i don't know i got it like when it was still in alpha alright not to brag i'm a fucking Minecraft veteranie i got the game before they had ladders i got the game when it was just a menu screen that was it i got the first update i remember was was the nether being added hang on when will ladders added i've never played it i'm sorry rags he's gonna call you out in a second alright that was fucking ages ago so my memory will be fuzzy but i remember having to i still remember my first world in my head and if you wanted to go down you'd have to build blocks you use blocks as a staircase fucking medieval ages i'm pretty sure ladders were added before the nether so so anyway hang on ladders were in the base game when it came out ladders were when i started there were no ladders fact checked ladders were that was before so did you play in dev that was before alpha that they were added let me see let me double check because i got it ages ago so let me check maybe it's possible that i didn't know ladders even existed but then someone said do you know about ladders and i took that as they added them i wish people knew about community because ladders were because i remember my first world and i didn't have ladders in it and that was way back in the day where animals would spawn ambiently due to light sources and things like that was the world infinite because ladders were added at the same time they added infinite world generator i remember if i had an infinite world or not i cannot remember i just remember that my world didn't have any ladders and i didn't think anything of it somebody's a phony probably mad i am accurately representing what i remember i'm just picturing you going through life going there were no ladders here but i don't know what a ladder is so that doesn't bother me i know what ladders were if that was the real world i know what ladders were if they've stopped being ladders they were once very valued in our society but then came the dark times only true 90s kids will remember ladders everyone uses their jet packs to get everywhere these days but ladders, that's where it was at black panther where i had stairs everywhere i didn't have any ladders i was more of a stag guy myself they covered a video defending a scene in black panther where they farmed rhinos arguing they could milk them i don't even remember rhinos in black panther how could you not remember the rhinos in black panther i was going to say they're in the climax the big rhino fight and they got all reincorporated in shit synth verity thank you so much for the super chat channel support man i greatly appreciate that holy shit rags you're one of the biggest minecraft veterans there is nice you guys should like i had a friend i had a friend who i only learned about it through word of mouth through a friend and i gave money to his dad so that he could use his credit card because i didn't have one in order to get minecraft so if this was 2010 it might have actually it might have been i know that i got i got minecraft and i can't remember what year it was it was so fucking long it would have been 2010 they were added into the game yeah in june seems like june 7th now it's possible that they existed i just didn't know they existed what a wonderful naive will to be in we don't know ladders or anything added in june 2010 yeah maybe but they changed my life forever when i discovered ladders i'm just imagining in the real life like you've been just been putting boxes on top of each other man i wish there was a better way to do it that's what my first world was there were no ladders you can just make staz in like a 2x2 area by doing like a spiral staircase probably what he did i you couldn't use a 2x2 because then by the time it loops they would hit itself because you need room 2x2 it does work no it didn't i'm playing my i'll do it i'll do it i'll do it well i because if you need two spaces because you'll need let's see let me make a i don't think you can do a 2x2 that's how i mine rags that's how i fucking mind why would you not use ladders because we need a phenomenon a name for this phenomenon 1 for j and 2 for rags okay well no i can do it right now i'm playing mine rags i didn't say the vote means anything i just want to see it when i'm here i'm gonna try and write so let's see if i can do a 2x2 you know vote 1 for 1 plus 1 equals 2 and 2 for 1 plus 1 equals 3 getting getting 1 1 1 2 1 2 yeah you can't do it i just tried it you can't do it i will show you right now i'm looking at it right now i just did it well you did it wrong no it's a 2x2 no now just to make sure because this is important we're talking about are we talking about blocks or stairs because at the time there were no stairs blocks yeah you can't do it with blocks again i'm looking at it right now i just made it you say you can't get back around on itself before you have achieved enough distance yeah it does i'm looking at it right now i will screenshot it to you you see i jumped off here's the thing i jumped off of it and in order to get back up to continue just to make sure i can't get up past the second block can i show my screen i can't even get past the first block how do i do that that's the easy way you need the motion do you yes it's important also my chrome is crashed which is fun there there's a screenshot of it with normal blocks you can't make a 2x2 right there's a screenshot right there for you respond to the screenshot jay i'm gonna respond with mine stop doing it this is so the green i'm just i'm drinking some alcohol now too like i can't walk down the stairs again because there's not enough space and there's a screenshot right there you can't do it jay respond to the screenshot i'm making it i'm making i'm making a functioning version of this thing no wait just look at his screenshot tell us what's wrong with it though i will you could take off the bottom it looked like shit though you could do it if you take off the bottom corner why did you put in extra blocks that you don't need to do that it looks like shit why would you make this this is garbage if you're making it in something then you can't see what it looks like you can you're on it can't see what it looks like and how do you know walls you were telling me you can't do it you just built it like that doesn't make sense it only exists because minecraft doesn't have physics that makes sense something not if you build it inside something right so if you if you like if you just dug into the earth in that pattern it would look fine it looked like shit fine it also be not only would it be a straight way and pointless why wouldn't you just use ladders because they're not in the game yes they are you can craft them I have them I thought the whole premise of this was whether or not it was possible not whether or not it was better than ladders exactly yes it is possible completely lost me now I don't even know what the fuck we're talking about anymore I think we've nailed it if he said it's possible we're done this is the arrival debate all over again it is possible to build a shitty garbage looking staircase that is pointless yes I see the goalposts have been moved yes exactly you're saying it can't be done well it can be done but it's ugly yes it is it is ugly and slow and pointless but you can do it how the fuck did we get here I mean because Jay is using very strange methods of traversing terrain in a vertical fashion Jay you're a strange but do you accept this why would you ever do this I found a really nice Minecraft village in the world that I proved rags wrong it's just nice why would you ever build a staircase like this I don't know how do you not have any wood on you because you're underground and that's not what trees come from trees are on the way because they're on the top trees do come from underground what if you're already underground rags and you're in a cave you don't prepare what if you've lost your wood what kind of an amateur first rate minor are you that you don't bring enough ladders answer him Jay right do you know how big my cactus farm is rags I have no idea how big your cactus farm is unless you can build cactus ladders I don't think he cares no but in this in the server that I was playing on until it got shut down not shut down but you need mods to go on there now I wish I can't be bothered to install you could use you could sell cacti in like a server shop and you could buy ladders from the shop and it was like a pretty good cacti to ladder ratio just make them well you could buy all of the items that's what the shop was for every item was valued so you could trade in your stuff you don't want free at an infinite amount you can make them from woods that's not for us trees are renewable yeah that's not free they're practically free that wind power is renewable that's not free you could cut down all the trees that are constantly regrown you are the strangest Minecraft player I have ever encountered but I got the cactus farm literally automatic it had water flows and stuff that made the cacti break okay so you're going to expand the efforts to create an automated cactus farm but you are going to spend money to buy ladders because that's how much I work I'm so close to good alcohol fuck my ass dude we had the cacti go into water go into a hopper into a chest and from that because I had a chest that was always full of cacti that was amazing I could buy anything I wanted using the cacti and it didn't matter what I wanted I could just get it with the cacti so I make one resource like a real business where you specialize in making one resource and then you sell that resource in order to buy the things you don't want to make yourself what an insanely roundabout way to acquire ladders I could also craft ladders if I wanted to but I'm too important because you're already getting the sticks the fences and to make your planks you don't need fences and fences for a cactus farm why would yeah of course not why would you assume that you did well you're already getting the sticks for the fences and the these are things that you already have and you're constantly getting them because you need for like for construction trees grow slowly you need different color woods you have dark wood and lighter wood it's a different cactus any plants as you want Molo is there any elevator music on yet? oh it came and went you outlasted it I'm impressed so anyway we're already in hell we're just paying somebody else to play Minecraft for them no I was playing but I was paying for my resources because I owned a very lucrative cactus business so anyway you want to see how this ends with a hello Greedo I would love to know how this ends with hello Greedo I can only wish you well and hope you and the EFAP crew have a good conversation for clarity the EFAP crew is discouraging any harassment no it's cool wait what are you doing I didn't do that I reopened the room and it went back to the start crew is discouraging any harassment no it's cool I don't consider this harassment I don't give a fuck are you guys seeing it in the right place in the video? yes because I'm at 11 seconds right now wait it's it's paused for me but I can hear it okay so yes there we go it's fixed I appreciate the generosity there and the kind words in the super chat this evening yeah trust me I don't give a shit I mean it is disruptive is it disruptive how is it disruptive what is it disruptive they're giving you money don't people love it when they get rated I mean yeah time to agree I mean I guess not if you're a weenie the staircase you built literally looks like a big curly turd stop it J don't encourage you go back to your cactus farm you freak you freak I like talking to channel viewers and everything but I don't consider it harassment that's silly as shit it is dumb it's goofy did you say that? how dare he say it's dumb they're loud I'm offended that he's saying it's dumb to worship the cosmic chicken I don't know how to deal with this I think it's dumb not to I'll say this I've said this before I turned down a lot of podcasts with people that I know lately in the past year and a half just because and I'm a broken record and some people will roll my eyes fuck them some people will roll my eyes some people will roll my eyes hello greener has someone who comes in to roll his eyes and blink for him we're not even covering a video today but I'm making a note of that one please someone come and roll my eyes please someone said J is stonks and that person is correct I am stonks my cacti will prevail people will roll your eyes dude it will but my day I have an hour and a half to myself in the morning and then I have about two hours to myself in the evening well no that would explain how low effort and terrible his videos are also it means he still has time for a podcast he can still pop on for an hour especially if that's every day what he's saying is I don't have time I only have hours well you know especially in the efap world that is a small amount of time that is a just a blink of an eye to the cosmic chicken stuff to work on freelance projects and that's that's my free time and other than that I take care of my daughter unless she's napping in the afternoon and that's kind of my freelance time as well so to carve out a section of time where I hop on a podcast he said as he's streaming Minecraft I don't know if I can I can know if I can spare the time he says as he streams Minecraft does he consider this a part of his freelance work I guess this is part of his time I assume he would but I mean I'm sure maybe we have to pay for him to come on efap but that might be how it works like however much you make it super chat to him, not enough make it rain on the Greedo mass difficult there's three things that I do Greedo included not my kid included included my kid there's four I do Greedo shouldn't it be Hello Troopa I don't know things people have said that's an excuse fucking eat shit eat shit eat shit yeah he's told us that I only have hours free per day so I can't really go on podcasts because they'll roll by eyes what am I supposed to make of this Greedo just to say you're not interested I have like three hours to myself a day three hours you don't even have to come over like 20 minutes at most I can't go on a podcast I literally have three hours of free time that's a lot more than a lot of people that's strange but yeah I appreciate the sincerity of their sense eventually I'll never say never I've never listened yeah he did say never twice this is like the first time this has ever happened there's a stream where a bunch of people come over and tell me to immediately stop my stream to go on another stream kind of silly no you could stream no you don't have to stop your stream you could stream you being on our stream yeah you could you don't have to stop your stream a strange man silly boy crazy man crazy man mulch another fun an interesting update I like to think of him as a fun guy then there's other people who are less fun have you guys heard of fat man falling he's a youtuber he's not a fan of me he's very much what you would call the opposite of a fan of me rags would you do us the honors of reading out this tweet he sent about me a long time ago and then I'll explain why it's relevant um all right so Mikey fell at fat man falling says I'm pretty sure moller and cinemasins are two halves of the same being and when they split cinemasins got all the charisma and integrity and understanding of media analysis and argumentation yes okay okay snipe on twitter but they never explain why you're wrong I love sniping at me they never explain why you're wrong I'm sorry I just I left so hard at that I pulled my headphone out was anything good said then that's crazy the implications that cinemasins have charisma and integrity alone is pretty funny integrity watch my hang on hang on watch my I have a two hour series which is gonna be finished soon talking about how like literally 70% of the stuff they say is objectively wrong so how could you say that um yeah but that's not analysis wrong jay bad objectively false statement 70% of content charisma that's subjective but also no what what does this integrity come from I'm surprised he's gonna make a comment about my integrity where's I'd be curious where have you shown lacking integrity I don't know you said you said the dreaded f would well then in the like later once he calls his he calls his writing like shallow trite and dishonest done done oh yeah I was gonna say it goes on you're writing is shallow you wanna check out the rest of it yeah there's more down there oh I don't know why both halves of this hypothetical being got into film criticism but hopefully you don't think I literally believe the exact diction I used physically happened and instead come away understanding my intention was to say his writing is shallow trite and dishonest what's weird that's weird because he clearly says that he's saying here that you don't have charisma integrity and understanding of media analysis or argumentation and then he's like oh but I don't mean it what no so I think what he's saying is you're not supposed to actually believe that I was split apart from cinema scenes and some kind of disastrous scientific experiment like that's what he's saying I don't literally believe that what I'm in the state coming in that's not even a part that I referenced at all which kind of goes to support the idea that he's being I don't know like he's purposely listening to the idea could a mod sort out the spam in the chat please what what raid me raid me raid me raid me raid me oh from that one guy oh jesus hopefully if he doesn't go away metal will kill him I just hit him oh there you go rags can hit him too I forgot you guys have the wrenches so he goes on and says let's see his videos are seemingly so long seemingly so long okay because they can't stand up to people who understand what he's saying what no that I'm gonna have to pause what does that sound what does that sentence mean his videos are seemingly so long because they can't stand up to people who understand what he's saying so I guess what he's trying to say is that you're literally trying to use length in order to drown out people who don't agree with you he's trying no he's trying to drown he says he's trying to drown out people who actually understand him is it so crazy to believe that they're as long as they are because I just had a bunch of things I wanted to say and that's how long it took no that's possible what a battling sentence anyway the tweet goes on he spent an hour trying to discredit all criticism of him yeah which he didn't by claiming they hide behind subjective opinions and caps that off by saying his objective reasoning may be wrong what's the contradiction there but first of all it's interesting that he says I'm trying to discredit criticism of myself when I criticize myself I have a section where I explain my biggest blunders there's more since that time I made the captain marvel video where I said there are 500 stars in the milky way I think I said really wrong like embarrassingly wrong and funny thing is me and Fringy looked for that number and I don't know how it escaped us and then proof watching from other people I noticed how dumb that was like soon after releasing the video and I was like fuck how did that escape me but yeah that's wrong and it happened because I didn't catch it I made a mistake I don't use I don't try and stop myself from being criticized I actually like pretty cool with it um it's not criticism if you tell me you don't like my video I guess is that what he's getting at because like I don't care if you don't like my video I'm like okay that's useless to me moving on but if that's me discrediting or trying to hide away from criticism then that's an interesting these people don't actually watch your videos I think like they literally do not watch your videos they just take I think that what they think they are is just formed off of random bits and pieces of what other people have said that they cobble together instead of just watching it news sharing in general really I don't know why is this a problem by the way objective reasoning may be wrong why does he say that like it's a bad thing it's like yeah I can fuck that up mistakes impossible yeah imagine being so he calls you out and says that you don't have integrity and then also says that you say you could be wrong what a strange individual what an absolute buffoon what an imbecile he is happy to hear you using it rags he says at the end as if that's a much worse version of the same defense dishonestly edited to pander to his audience what does that mean I'm not sure he's referring to he says and follows that up with the blatantly subjective take that the saga was complete I mean okay so giving him the maximum benefit of the doubt I do think I say the saga was complete in reference to 1 through 6 or the very least 4 through 6 and if someone was like that's completely subjective I'd be like oh okay well I need to define what I mean by complete I suppose that the story has reached a climax that the journeys are completed to a degree with characters I think they would be reasonable to agree with that but I wouldn't even be against the idea that saying that's subjective I'd be like yeah okay fine nothing's never really ended if that's what you're saying fine you can justify the subjective nature of the claim that's all it does is it shifts it from being let's use the standard to determine whether or not there's a level of completeness here to subjectively I think it's complete and here are all the references that I'm going to use to back this up besides if he considers this me criticising myself and so be it but yeah you could have carried it on and made it really good you could have had episodes 7, 8 and 9 that were really good sure and then we'd be like but it's complete mohler so would you really want that I was like well I guess I'm okay with a story carrying on if it's really awesome but you didn't need to I didn't need more films after the OT did anybody need that well I guess it's a matter of what is it to need a film let's open up a whole other whole other thing that's just one definition away from clearing up so he's not a fan of me is the point of that and our conversation ended with me back and forthing with him and I'm not sure if I got the screenshot on hand we've got something else I want to show you guys first but I basically like he says to me that YouTube isn't the platform for me or something like that and then I was like it's just blatantly untrue and I reference my subscriber count and then he comes back with like wow trying to say you've got more subscribers that means you're valid or something like that I was like no I have an audience here so it is a place for me did he at least have a suggestion well he eventually conceded the conversation ends with him saying something like yeah okay fine you're still an asshole or something like that and then I'm like okay fine well I was like okay fine but we'll you know we can just let me know if you want to talk about this sometime and he was like yeah fine I'll keep it in mind and I was like okay cool and that was like a year ago and I was like yeah it's fine well half a year ago whatever it doesn't really matter no he's not well I mean he can still but this happened he's got he's on a podcast with friends of his I suppose I have no context for what this is I was just sent this and listened to it and I found it amusing so he's in the top right and then guy in the top left I believe is a fan of mine in some way shape or form or at least he watches from my work and let's just listen to what they say and discuss it because this is going to be interesting does he have a punch right oh what an insanely ugly person so well that she's off using the restroom I've been watching you know I in the background while I'm writing and I'm doing work I listened to eFap well mostly any kind of podcast he listens to eFap high five I assume he might be listening to this right now hello Celtic Phoenix how do you do hello Celtic Phoenix thanks for watching eFap interesting on my head perked because that was I was just watching the episode where someone sent a super chat in asking Mulder to debate you and he seems very this guy's you can see it in his face he's like oh fuck oh fuck about make your head before you use your weapon or at least your clean your room next to his bedside as you know a little bit of bed chess well I think it's interesting that you pointed that out instead of the massive upside down pentagram exactly also the fact that his wall has clearly been damaged by something in some way that's the white spot that was Satan that was the spell man that desk though you take a flamethrower to that how do you even you know on the chess board that's his lube oh my that actually might be a lube oh jeez I don't even know anyway for your the weird stat you guys and may I just say Celtic Phoenix liking the setup looking good nice you got the microphones all in place the whiteboard background for what I guess his notes or subscribers or whatever the sofa and then the background thing no it's like two low resolution to tell that's a shame hope it says hail EFAP or big idiot hail big idiot well my animosity towards him is that he's like a twatbasket on twitter I'm the twatbasket not me I wasn't being a twatbasket I wasn't assigning characteristics to people that I couldn't anyway actually back up because he's a twatbasket I'm the twatbasket and yet he said I have no charisma or integrity or understanding of media analysis or argumentation and I'm shallow, trite and dishonest thanks bro first just to be clear was that a reply to you in any way no that came out I remember that's the first time I've ever heard of him and I was like okay why does he hate me this happens so fucking much to me YouTubers hate me I'm all in what's up they're like fuck them all you terrible horrible person you ruined media do you know this no honesty you are a disgusting demon also yeah I'm trying to balance the audio for you guys in chat Batman is much louder than Celtic back and forth I'll try and make sure you don't blow your ears out I apologize I'm just really glad the left half of each letter orange while the right half of each letter is blue not well but the L's look weird because they're like 80% orange yeah fat man falling his content is just really like poorly that is until I saw his fucking Star Wars video man that's just like like how do you spend an hour like decrying the concept of subjectivity you could go on for days yeah this isn't a very substantive anything actually the idea of how you can actually view existence that's an interesting conversation that can go on for a little longer than an hour actually and the statements you make we will never discover the truth even is especially when that conversation is used often to decry you specifically and this is a conversation that's been going on for really long I wasn't just FYI because a lot of people feel this way I didn't bring this up I wasn't the one who said hey what about the idea of this like no no it actually came up ages ago like I'm talking you gotta have a lot of zeros on top of a number than that many years okay like a lot of people been talking about this for a long time I'm just one dude just saying like you didn't talk about this for like an hour like oh you nailed it destroyed the whole conversation how do you talk about it for an hour well I think there's a lot to say and generally one might even make the inference that intelligent people can draw a lot more blood from that their stone also I find interesting because he does a channel reviewing anime as far as I'm aware he spent no a guy no this guy no way not this not this guy by the way the guy with like loads of tissues on his desk finding tangent here so I have really long hair I haven't got a haircut in many years I have very long hair however because I have long hair I go through great lengths to maintain it well I don't like it when people have long hair and it looks like shit because then when I tell people I have long hair they're like oh you look like that you must look like one of these people I was like no no no I have white person hair I have to bathe it regularly and all that stuff I'd like to point out as well Rags's room is I can already guarantee much cleaner than this it literally is I'm looking around at shit everywhere tissues you need a slippery chess board do you have your bedside chess board Rags I have I have a little I have a bedside table but there's not a chess board on it well a true intellectual would have a chess board yeah I guess you don't have a casing for a fan but not the fan itself well no it could be spinning yeah that looks like it could be the fan right yeah it could be spinning oh I'm sorry fat man falling that was an objectively inaccurate criticism I have wronged you also on the matter of subject hair keep it kempton you know what happens to grooming how come that's just not a thing anymore was there like a convention where people decided they would just stop grooming their faces somebody announced every convention ever grooming is the big gay someone announced it it was replaced with subjectivity there you go yeah everything's objective I don't have to take care of it so I can look like a piece of shit in no matter yeah because objectively you wouldn't be anything anything at all yeah don't worry about it decrying the concept of subjectivity and then you're I'm actually very in favor of subjectivity it's very important to me we talk about it all the time the idea that I think feelings are bad or something no that's where you especially went ahead and said for it was like oh yeah objective objective wise but subjective wise we really love that movie it makes things so easy to explain to someone they're like oh you liked it but you thought it was poorly written yes there we go that was easy to explain wasn't it yeah I remember a recent conversation I said conversation where I ranted at you specifically about Steven Universe yes lots of the things I said were objective and then I said I hate them I hate why did they do this it was all subjective because there is no no because they fucked white diamond that sounds very sexual that sounds like a stripper name that's why I said it sounds very sexual but yeah okay let's carry on you're like complaints about a movie you're like I would have preferred if it was a different movie okay that's all you say that's all you say that's the entirety of your video if I say like I would prefer like I suggest a fix for a plot hole that's me saying I prefer a different movie at that point I guess okay some movies I'd prefer a different movie Cap Marvel The Last Jedi yeah the whole concept of the re-roll thing I kind of like that you brought up like when you've watched a movie it's like would you want to re-roll this keep it or risk a worse one for a better one etc like I would re-roll TFA in a heartbeat as well as TLG well if you're old TFA then I guess TLG is gonna it just stays the same even though TFA is completely different well it's okay because it's all subjective so it can stay the same well if you remember Quinton reviews our lord and saviour of a different universe he once said that it's only a sequel if you interpret it that way that's insane like that's actually an insane thing to say he said that though he said that oh shit when did he say that was that the TRO video no I think that was his video where he talks about The Last Jedi where he says like the fan stuff and everything we haven't covered that on EFAT we need to do that on EFAT we haven't we need to I can't believe it yeah we'll do that it's one of like the best quotes ever anyway moving on oh yeah you just prefer a different movie look at Celtic Phoenix's reaction he's like um that's not really what he said is that what he said objectively bad that this movie didn't tell the story I wanted it to tell dude come on he goes very in depth about his process of writing and it makes a lot of sense get fucked look at him awkwardly laughing that's not what you're saying that's what's so crazy is like the most obvious thing that you could probably take away from you is that you draw the difference between objective and subjective like that's our big thing that they're not the same yeah that's the thing if you were to rename it if you go more all you're talking about when you say objective is consistency you're not talking about anything objective I'd be like okay but my work still makes sense if you were to switch that one word then right yes it's just a word swap the concepts remain the same like all my work is still following all of those uh that framework then so it's still of that still is what it is right if you just disagree with the way I've labeled it that it still does what I intended for it to do I guess there is more to like that can be objective than just consistency though like 15 year olds not crying yeah we're not saying that that's all it is we're just suggesting that if their issue is the use of the word I'm like sure you can get over that but instead they write off everything I've done it's like cool no but they hate you anyway though oh cool which is why this is fascinating to keep an eye on the guy who hates me versus the guy who's like well I don't know if he how much he likes my work or not but he seems to be in favour of me is it ironic that the guy who's defending you kind of looks like Jack St oh little I'm okay with that you know he was kissed by fire you know and you get all kinds of different personalities out of that ginger hair what they say he's flame kissed when he's making an objective statement or an objective opinion versus a subjective opinion he kind of delineates that objective opinion alright fat man falling define opinion for me buddy do it objective opinions a thing why do people think objective opinions aren't a thing like this is an established thing look we have to go through this all the time rags we've talked about this privately I know let me google it just to opinion is just a judgment something that's true then it's objective this isn't even like a hidden thing this is like a nearly defined thing it's like people saying that Saturn isn't real I don't understand for something wrong no it's not my go to for something wrong it was my momentary go to for something that exists they just act like it's not a thing are that people who believe that Saturn isn't real probably no it's like saying that first off yes there are people who don't think Saturn is real there are people who deny that space exists there are people who deny that space exists but the whole point of what I'm saying is that this is you have subjective opinions which exist they are a thing they're clearly defined this is easily googleable stuff people hear that they're dumbstruck the logical step I feel like he'd be laughing his ass off I'm like okay he's probably one of two options one laughs at us again because everyone knows the definition of opinion there's no need for him to say it or he says it's your personal take on a thing it's your feelings on what it is it's like nope but even if it's your feelings on what it is if your feelings are oh that my desk is made of glass that's objective even if I feel it to be true it wouldn't be defined that way however you can make a subjective judgment that's fine and what determines whether or not a judgment is subjective is usually going to be the content of it and what the topic is I think in the definition of opinion when we talked about it it doesn't necessarily have to be based on what's true or what is a fact it can in fact it's kind of independent of it either way it's still an opinion it shouldn't be so controversial and yet it is people just don't think about it that's the thing they don't think about it so when they hear it to them it just seems otherworldly I think everything would get better if we dropped the word opinion nobody can use it anymore and we have to use something else in order to translate what we're saying to each other you have to use a new word for that concept what we would start saying pretty much is just judgment judgment's the easy one to go for and then they would be saying your feelings on something we'd be like nope not talking about feelings no if you substitute the word opinion with judgment everyone immediately understands what you mean I like to think they would but then they might say that you're subjective judgment no because then they'll agree with that long man and then they'll find some bullshit reason just put the definition just define opinion at the start of all of your videos they see that as stupid smaller an intro that has the definition they think that's stupid they're like of course everyone knows what opinion means well obviously fucking not well exactly they think that we're the stupid ones who've decided that opinion means something else just right did the same thing Joseph Anderson did the same thing Joseph Anderson searched for definitions of opinion that involve like the specifics of it has to be about your feelings and he's like see and he pulled it from a site that has a definition for objective opinion that's the funny part Joseph Anderson's a funny guy but this is the thing the best they can do is bitch and moan about how it's their definition that should be adopted but this is the thing we're just running from what's the fact and feeling it doesn't go fact and opinion people often say fact and opinion it's like fact and feeling is the two opinion can be both or either what's your opinion on how good TLJ looks aesthetically looks expensive I like it I understand that it's really technically competent but I just don't like the way it looks see what I mean though all the statements we just made so rags saying it looks expensive you could actually give references for why that's the case me saying I like it I don't have to go any further than that pleasing to my eye I actually don't like it what we said was subjective about the debate depending on how he qualifies this is what makes conversation interesting by the way instead of just going oh you like it okay bye that was a great conversation bye wouldn't want things to go too long we are up to two hours already we've like accomplished nothing in this stream of course that's what we do we did sort out some ladders hang on the important question gay ass cactus farm cinema sins announces sin week a cinema sins fan event sin week oh is that like the opposite of lint oh my god yeah everyone can make gluttony you go nuts with a particular vice you're like oh yes oh lust lust lust lust lust lust lust I call lust well the problem is rags people like fat man falling are the ones who are like yeah I'm up for that too rags everyone has to pick a deadly sin now well obviously for moller it's pride because he's evil what's the pride taken to the nth degree like what would I be doing narcissism no like in the form of actions like what would you picture I'd be doing if I was taking pride to the the worst like as a youtuber would I like release a video saying how good I am or something I would say that I would say that every day the most people listen to in their entire life oh god I'd make statements like that I would say that's the nth degree yeah no but it's still pretty fucking terrible to the youtuber I think so I would probably release a video reviewing my own work and saying it's perfect or something like that the most extreme form of pride I'm not sure I just meant within the realm of me as a youtuber like what would the action I take yeah I'd probably have to think about it interesting though yeah anyway he calls it I think it's a weird statement but it's an opinion that he tries to base upon factual information as opposed to personal preference look at his mind go that's that's if you're basing it if you're not basing an opinion on something no finish your thought fat man carry that forwards please continue 30 degrees celsius however his thermometer is broken and he is unaware of that fact so his opinion well factually true by his knowledge I would correct him on factually true and change it to objective I didn't have any so this is the thing I've talked about before it's just an easy analogy to try and help people understand what I'm getting at where because they would question how do you get an objective opinion that could be nonfactual or inaccurate yeah the analogy would be that it's objectively true that the thermometer is something incorrect and the reason why we have talked about this is because some people will say something like Bucky was brainwashed in civil war and if Steve had only told Iron Man that Iron Man wouldn't attack him and it's like they may not have any feelings in the game about this they just didn't remember the scene in which that happened those things happen and so you show them and you go yeah you were being fine you had any bias in making you come up with these statements you just had a lack of information so that's where it's applicable in media but then some people might be like struggling to understand it so I say like you have a thermometer it's displaying a number you read it out when someone asks you what the temperature of the room is and it turns out it was broken unaware to you and so they say like wow you were being subjective it's like that doesn't make sense I don't have any investment in whether or not the thermometer reads whatever number I just read the number yes you can mistakenly believe that the thermometer is telling you the accurate temperature when really you're just taking the reading incorrect or not you are still using that to objectively base your opinion I think that makes sense let's see how he reacts to it college oh sorry while his opinion while objective is factually false he is making an opinion this whole face palm out of the camera thing I think this is like a coping mechanism for a lot of people I mean like they use it to almost like hide their inability to there's a cheat down there that he is suffering on I don't know if I've mentioned this yet but he's making a video on me apparently by the way fat man falling he's gonna take me down boys I'm ready it's very interesting does this God I have to read again person not understand what the word guess means guess have to do with opinion he's suggesting that if the thermometer was broken and I read out the number I wouldn't have been creating an objective an opinion I would have been guessing what no I don't understand this seems like a non-sacrifice there's no guessing involved I read the number yeah if it was me here I would have stopped him right there and was like no no no no you're starting off with a faulty premise and I value time to some degree so what where are you coming from with this guess stuff also what's that thing behind Celtic it looks like it does sound cancelling and stuff behind who? behind Celtic I've heard that pronunciation that's okay Celtic Phoenix Celtic Phoenix Celtic and Celtic are both words Celtic and Celtic are both words so the cool guy the cool guy call him Phoenix got it I don't think it's noise cancelling I think it might just be one of those screens for like you can put them up and move them around for when you like changing stuff then again I bet it helps enough I imagine there might be something horrifically awful behind it and he's covered it up maybe I'm actually curious are those screens that maybe you could reposition I don't know I think they are that's the guy at the bottom said anything yet not yet you might not watch yeah I'm not sure it's very interesting does this person not understand what the word guess means a guess non sequitur a guess isn't an opinion I mean a lot of judgments are made without full information so you could argue that they're not definitive and therefore partially a guess I'm pretty sure if you base your information like you base a judgment on a guess that is an yeah that's almost more an opinion than not one would say that a guess is also if you're basing if you're misinformed that's not a guess that's you being misinformed yeah yeah like you know I can trust rags 100% if he tells me like Jay fucking behind your back said a bunch of shit and then I like challenged Jay on it and he's like oh he lied I'd be like so you guessed that I said that I'd be like I mean like giving incorrect information isn't something I would equate to a lie anyway it's a weird way to to frame this he's he's he if you are unaware that the thermometer is broken then you would think that it's going to be the temperature set on the thermometer unless it is a radically different temperature yeah he's like consumed this isn't actually complicated like why are you reacting this way fat man yeah it's not actually all that complicated it's just probably not something you just think about often it doesn't exactly come up in conversation oh that awkwardest fuck laugh look at that again he's laughing because his worldview is crashing around him it's how you cut that's not real his face was frozen his face was frozen and his eyes were staring forward it's like the most forced laugh I've ever seen like oh god I got a laugh that's like that's not a real laugh at all deflect the absurdity of it that's funny as hell is he I'm probably doing this no you're not man you're doing okay Phoenix you're doing okay I appreciate it the analogy the way you're failing isn't necessarily your fault it's you have to translate it to this man who's not really hearing what you're saying is what my take would be which we've struggled with the many guests we've had me and rag spent like hours trying to break down what we're saying we eventually just have to read we have to have them agree to redefine words we have to read yeah so don't worry don't worry honestly I think see I can never tell if he's joking why would you assume he's joking honestly like I hope he's joking a lot of the time but like in his like like tweets back and forth with H Bomber Guy he's like said mother fuck it H Bomber Guy said to me that um what is it the whole thing about the hitbox is being fucked in DS2 wasn't an error or wasn't a mistake I can't remember what word he used but he was trying to like move around the idea that they were terrible and he didn't mention them in his video whatsoever even though a lot of people who play DS2 will happily mention them and I remember being like you can't be serious the hitboxes are so fucking terrible you have to at least admit that those are bad and he was just like not necessarily because everything's subjective and the hitbox is only bad if you feel it's bad like Jesus Christ you can see like it was like a flaw but it wasn't an error or something yeah he used two words I can't I didn't fuck up on purpose I can't remember the specifics but the idea that I was the clown in that conversation like really H Bomber Guy does some things like oh it's my opinion I'm on good tips with H Bomber Guy as far as I can tell I have back and forth in DMs every once in a while after his new video the scanlines one I actually thought that was a really awesome video and I sent him a sin that I really liked it and the Blade Runner thing with the unicorn something that once they added the dream sequence in I felt that it really boosted the film and that I kind of liked that he went over that and then yeah he sent me a few messages back talking about some of the bits he cut out and everything and I was like it's weird I'm like am I on good terms with you or not I don't know I don't think he'd ever want to come on you I'd be lucky to get a conversation with him you know the crowd he hangs out with hang him from the rafters if he showed up here no he'd still be a good look look do you just see what happened to ContraPoints yeah that's crazy ContraPoints has been removed from the left almost what happened she said a completely reasonable thing that I guess to try and summarize it again I'm paraphrasing and I may have gotten some of this wrong but it's just for so people have some context from what I understood she was saying that what she doesn't like about being with them very let's just call them a woke crowd is that when when they see her arrive in a group they'll want to make a point to everybody say their pronouns once they see her and conversely when she's with a group of people who aren't woke who don't care about any of that stuff they don't and they'll still refer to her as ma'am and you know she and stuff like that and so she was saying almost ironically that she prefers not having to bring it on like to arrive in a group and then have them all go okay pronouns time you know what I mean like she'd rather it be natural yeah she said a completely normal thing which means that the left ate her up yeah I read that I found it interesting I said this to Rags before I was like that's really interesting as a sort of commentary on almost like the unexpected acceptance or at least you could call it that from their point of view it's unfortunate because it's pissed people off who consider her on their team if you will apparently it's very much upset non-binaries because non-binaries are people who very much require pronouns to be stated and so her saying that is if you're not binary then state your fucking pronouns yeah but they're saying that her story there as a content creator and influencer is damaging to non-binaries I think that was their argument what people who think that Trump is trying to kill trans people I don't know what Trump is trying to do but I'm pretty sure it's not that he's trying to build a wall and it's gonna be fucking beautiful I think if Trump did that it would be by accident like if the wall fell over and landed on a trans person trying to cross the border illegally through the desert what are the bricks full of like how Trump meant to do that it was the 40 chance point being though time it wouldn't look good for him I don't think but that's not a political statement though coming on effect everything is political to these people come on Jay these people think everything is political there's no such thing as a non-political thing they're desperate to know my politics because they want to be able to throw me out the window if you know what I mean and so the what I always see said online is he hangs out with rags who often hangs out with sargon therefore that's his politics therefore yeah we're indistinguishable from one another we never have any we're here we're here respecting the idea that you can you know like respecting a trans person's pronouns and all of that shit and having just like a well they won't accept the idea that you can do that and you can choose what pronouns you feel comfortable with and they want to know like but are you still a bad though do you believe in Nazism person who believes you know yeah these people are nuts I'd love it if HpombaGuy came on though I would love to have a conversation about art analysis stuff I just don't I think the best I'll ever get is like a discord call with him which I'd be cool with I don't think you'd ever come on eFab though it makes you wonder like with contra points and it's weird too because when I made an FA account I got and I still do get regular messages from people who are like furries and in the furry fandom who say yeah I just can't talk about politics because of how insane people are and what they'll do to me and they won't do work for me and I'll get called out all the time Can I be Rebek? Cancel culture People can't talk about politics in the furry fandom Correct Well Tim Poole made a video like within the week about how there is a poll and 73% of students who were self-identified Republicans said that they withheld giving their political opinions for fear that there would be academic backlash against them by like staff and teachers and that they would hurt their grades like people don't want to this is why when Trump was elected people were like what? because people don't want to say that shit in public because people treat us like we're second class citizens or that we're freaks or weirdos or hateful monsters Are you saying that you are Republican rags? Have you said that? What have you said? I thought you said you were left What did you say? Wolf is the one who was left I would say I'm left as well Yeah I'd say socially I'm pretty moderate generally but there are some things I don't even know if you could depends on how you define far right Yeah this is the other thing that gets super complicated I'm pretty clearly defined views on like immigration and stuff I'm very egalitarian and very pro-meritocracy and Hang on you disagree with me on issues I'm not talking about that Well I was going to say as well it's just funny you said about the whole like what they'll do with the second class citizen thing is like we literally had Quinton being like do not humanize Ben Shapiro Stop it's dangerous Ben Shapiro is a human he's also the awkward thing you realize which is Quinton wishes to dehumanize the Jews Quinton stop it quickly you're becoming something you wish to destroy Anyway back to this wonderful video I'm going to take it so far off track Like said like it's my opinion that fire burns flash and I'm like What? My opinion that fire burns flash Yeah What's wrong with that So if we again replace opinion with judgment it is my judgment that fire burns flash Why is this going to burning flash It's interesting Why is the pentagram man talking about burning flash The analogy he goes to I don't know It's weird but yeah it is my opinion I rags it is my opinion that fire burns flash This also is You might consider an objective opinion because it's based off of the facts of reality Yeah you don't actually have an investment in this personally you weren't burned as a child Well my point is like how would this become subjective and it's like if you said something like I don't know water burns you and it turns out that you had water spill on you that was really hot when you were younger and you've always been afraid of water because it'll burn you and you'd be like oh rags is not the case Yeah you'd be like yeah water can scald you yeah sure but yeah Water was acid and you're like there's a lot of ways that your judgment can be skewed and that's a part of my goal on my channel is to find those biases and get rid of them as best you can Yeah like it's just the concept that you're using you're just maybe saying instead of fire or water burns water scalds water blisters I was referring to the fact that if you said water burns as a whole it's like well water can or water can reach a high point there's lots of other things I don't know man Again I would like him to repeat all of this without being allowed to use What about objective opinions is that if you don't know we can test it and find out Yeah and again I just I'd like him to do all of this without being allowed to use the weird opinion and just notify me whenever he uses the replacement words so I know what he's actually saying because it's just like a weird to hide behind I genuinely can't wait for his video I'm so excited it's gonna be terrible it's gonna be so terrible we'd love it Like he's like he's a silly he's a silly guy okay wow we got you yeah you're fucked now beat the fuck out who doesn't present himself as a silly guy thank you okay at least there's an acknowledgement from him that I present myself in a non-silly way alright you can say the same thing about Jeremy Clarkson what do you think of that exactly well let me say in reverse fat man you are a silly guy who does present himself in a silly way but doesn't think you're silly which is the worst case scenario basically that is an odd that is an odd criticism I give it about I give it about 50% that there is at least some calm on that chess board who don't make me think about that I I don't know if I'd say more or less 50% I give it 50% if I had to over under you I think I'd go is that your objective judgment or your subjective judgment that is a pure guess hmm I'm surprised there's not a hole in one of the pens come on you're talking about his not as unbridled rages at all no no I'm talking about his twitter persona but he has long he's talking about my twitter persona it's all he watched I have a twitter persona I wasn't unaware of this he's just read your tweets and that's his judgment he's way worse on twitter than I am how is this fair I'm gonna guess it's trump yeah no like I don't really care about his content besides the ones that I don't care about his content judge people on twitter twitter thingies and don't watch the content and the length drag doesn't exist basket or whatever the fuck he said basket I've seen oh no he's tweets about my little pony oh no he doesn't I guarantee you he spent more than an hour on it meaning that he finds a little pony more worthy of discussion than the concept of subjectivity I'd like to go back to 70% yeah I think I'm with you on the 70 I'm gonna increase my can we not reach 100 can we not just I mean it's an objective I think we know that it's true than their keys starting to think those aren't dents in his wall oh no oh no how did you draw that pentagram oh no oh no oh no that is that is very metal pull metal how can you say that how dare you crossed the line I don't really care about his content besides the ones that I've seen like what kind of statement is that I don't care about his content outside of the ones I've seen that's an odd one maybe he's seen all of it how do you care about the ones you have and you're unaware of talking to him I mean trying to like objectively quantify artistic quality is like ridiculous why he said it's ridiculous get fucked game over buddy he disagrees with that then let him that's where I think you guys had a very interesting debate because do you believe there's an objective no there's no there's no debate to you're asserting it but that's not an argument just to be clear would you happily debate this man oh sure you can jump on e-fap whenever he wants to be a hilarious disaster he's gonna get he's gonna get stunned immediately cause we'll just ask for definitions and he's fucked yeah once you once you make him think about it like really just pass that first immediate step then it just crumbles definition silly a guy I don't agree with we did it with dex and snowman gaming didn't we it was almost a similar conversation they both came in like no and then we were like okay terms definitions conclusions and then they were like okay I can kind of see how you okay I mean it was dex who agreed with our concept he just didn't want to use the words that we he also didn't like the dex dex is a guy who came in talked to us against the wishes of just right yeah I know that I saw that but I don't know he's a guy who made the video where he was talking about buzzwords and video essays and the first one he said was objective and that you can't be objective and then we were like we challenge you on such things this is not ringing any bells I'm just gonna go don't you watch all of e-fap back to back you're a manager well you're honorary manager maybe rags I've had three too many beers that's a reference how many beers is that I've had three beers currently I'm still on one but I've got a long day ahead of me still because I gotta leave in about an hour and a half so I don't want to over imbibe well at least we'll get through this video by then maybe if you think there are objective standards of quality quality what do you think quality means yeah time to blow people's how do you think things exist that you can literally make whenever you please this happens with every single fucking weird they use so quality what does the majority of people think it means and a lot of people will tell you it's like how much you like a thing it's like no it means the degree to which a standard is satisfied and that can be how much you like a thing it can also be how much a thing is coherent or how much how fucking structurally sound of building is like there's so many different ways quality is almost just dependent on the context in which you're using the word I just like that you can just gunfire the definition by now we ask because all of these people they never think about definitions and we just kind of like have to it's what we base our work on this is why we know them they always assume interesting too is that we know these definitions but our arguments do not hinge upon them they're just ways to describe I'm also willing to accept that if you said that's not the only definition or something I'd be like okay fine let's explore the one that you're using this is mine let's just come up with a new word to use for this conversation that's all we have to do if you think there are objective standards of quality you're just incorrect good argument explain explain is there attempt at stopping him from speaking are you echoing I think so not anymore okay how I don't know I'm going to keep talking but see how Raymond is still on you hear me I don't know when this gets I hear myself I hope it's the rest of the video it's absurd it's ridiculous okay and meanwhile commentary has been completely substantive about concepts and the words we use and all that stuff and so this will be the perfect clip to say Mueller is vain right if you have conversations like this because they'll be like define the terms we already all know the terms it's like no the fact you've assumed that means this is going to be a very difficult conversation then it will be easy for you to just take the 10 seconds and tell us just to make sure and like just the concept if you've already buried yourself in the idea that there's just no chance that what me and Rags have said is even slightly reasonable it's like oh great thanks like you would even hear us out cool and you can clearly tell he hasn't bothered to understand how I actually explain it the Phoenix guy has that's why he wants to bring this up because he's like I find it interesting I'd like you to respond to it he's like it's ridiculous it's so dumb I mean come on guys I mean like come on killed it that's getting the information from because I'm wearing headphones maybe your headphones are loud your headphones really loud you can do this yourself hello yeah I didn't do it that time yeah I think your headphones are just really loud that's just your opinion this is why I always have my my headphones like turned down very weird yeah media awkwardity bizarre yeah anyway I honestly think okay okay you asked what makes Ruby garbage and it's my opinion on what I value there are people your opinion on what you value your opinion on what you value your opinion on what you value you can judge things objectively crazy isn't it for all we know he has like an amazing breakdown of Ruby or whatever the hell it is and he defines in the video that he's only going from what he likes or something I remember this like people said about JustWrites Hobbit videos right like he does a really great breakdown but then he will say about his own work it's all subjective and it's like noooo why would you value your stuff so much am I saying that you can tell by what someone is saying whether or not it's subjective but the other other other issue we've just hit is now define value and is it you literally talking about what you personally like that's what value means to you then yeah that's not what we're talking about when we say objective It's like you go around in circles with all these words and you have to define all of them and prevent them from being like Escape hatches sort of thing for the conversation. It's like value is subjective. Bye. You're like, no, no, no come back Tons of people I think one of them is in this very call that like Ruby a lot and it's good to them You're allowed to like shit. It's not like we have to stop doing that We're allowed to value different things. So if the show is good at one thing and bad at another thing maybe even Objectively someone might want some one person might like the fact that show because they value the one thing Might dislike it because they value the other one. Yeah, how about you take you you're not say if you value If you value visuals you might like it through and see snake because it looks glorious Okay, okay, I'm I'm judging it. Okay shadows aside Shadows boost that brightness. It looks gorgeous clips. I've seen of your video where I'm because I've not actually watched it I'm just like judging this on the clips of your video. Oh, I'm There's a few shots in in the episode that are absolutely gorgeous and I would have posters of them made if I could Just casually. Oh, that's a fake city in the background. It doesn't really Like it's there Would you consider cinematography as visuals? Yes Dependent. Well, I just ask what you mean by visuals. I guess that is like anything you can see it's like well, I guess Yes, then again, if you're talking about cinematography usually talk about composition, right? Yeah, no, I think it's interesting to sort of see how you would separate or combine the terms or subset them, I guess Because we value different things So he brought up that was a because he brought up the everything is subjective arguments Like they hate that argument, but I think you're coming out from a big cut. Oh shit. I have to take him down again Look where you paused it. Jesus. What is It's what is true Subjective all right, so we hate the everything is subjective argument because it's true two plus four wait objectively true The subjectively truly everything is subjective except the stuff that's not guys falls apart the second you think about it Plus they it's a simple as it's an objective fact that two plus two equals four Well, if everything is subjective, what the fuck is the point in the word objective? Is it does it only exist to say nothing is this? It's like it's a fantasy word. It isn't a real Sciences, well, yeah, it's like if you actually think that literally everything is subjective then objectivity refers to a fantasy concept Well, there are plenty of words that do that It's usually you talk about like fiction Yeah, it Concept like if J said is this thing to refer to that you talk about look if someone says more door It's like of course that's referring to something. That's not actually real Think of an edgy thing to say as a joke like oh that thing's Like even even like a Hello YouTube sensors. I am speaking in a hypothetical if the holocaust not happen worth. Yeah. Yes We're talking about the Then if that if that did not happen then it would still be possible for it to happen So that's not the same thing not necessarily Why no, I wouldn't be possible. So if objectivity is not possible It's like we don't know necessarily if it would be possible You can kill a lot of people that you can commit a genocide that's that's possible. Oh, that's different than the holocaust Holocaust isn't just a holocaust though. That's that's a word that means a thing, right? It's just like a genocide I'd want you to know that a bit more Just another word for genocide That kind of refers to when people use that they specifically are referring to like the Jewish one in the 40s. Yeah, that's right That's the most famous one, but yeah, that's why wait wait That's why when everyone's you're saying you wouldn't be able to commit a genocide in the 40s now because we're no longer in the 40s No, no, no, I'm saying I'm saying that you don't you it's a little philosophical It's like when people say that it's possible God exists and they have we don't know if that's even possible Oh See what I'm getting at Couldn't you say that it is still possible that God exists though? I Wouldn't say that because I don't know you don't know if it's possible Correct. Yeah, so I'm saying yeah, you don't know when people assert that it's possible is like they like how how have you determined that? You don't well, it's possible within the realms of what you know You know, no, no, no, no, no, right. Okay. So it's okay. So say you've got a box, right? And like you don't know what's in that box So someone asks you is it possible that you know, there's a finger in that box as far as you're concerned Yeah, that's possible, but you don't know sure, but I would say that I got is it's generally defined as Complicated in that rags of probably say that we've got precedent like we know that it's very possible for a finger to be chopped Space and time and what fingers are in box and does God break the universal rules We currently have it's like in a way I suppose yeah, but asserting that it is definitely possible that an entity like God could exist is something that All right define your terms All right, God if you want if you want to define God as an omnipotent. Oh, we're just right there Omnipotent, I don't think that a it is possible to be an omnipotent entity because that is logically So omnipotent is like objective all knowing I forget which one's it mean that's omniscient omniscient is Powerful is it yes can do everything and What would you be will be the way you'd explain that? That's like paradoxical can God create a rock so heavy. He can't lift it right right right, but But that's not paradoxical. Oh, yes, it is you can't be omnipotent So yeah, if he's got the ability to create Everything to maximum then he should how can you like it can he create something that he has to say That's just equivalent to saying like oh the statement is a lie. That doesn't make sense Therefore, yeah, but on one hand he can lift it. It relies to action Yeah, oh so just to explain on one hand He is powerful enough to lift it and therefore he could not actually create something. He couldn't lift But he could make himself he could if he's omnipotent he could remove that power to lift the thing But then he wouldn't have the power to make the rock. No because he could return that power to himself So okay, so what all you're doing is you're just kicking the can down there by saying that once he removes his power Then he wouldn't be powerful enough to make a rock so that he couldn't lift it shut up The whole It just started off as he's saying that People when people assert things are possible Don't just buy it Because that argument happens with the theism debates omnipotence is a great example to use That's why a lot of modern apologetics is maximum. I find that really interesting Define anything for that because it's like if you can make like just literally Decide that matter is anything like, you know, you can make any decision and it just happens, you know Well matter isn't anything we we can like if we have definitions of matter and But you can just you can just decide something and it happens. That's how it works, right? I would omnipotent even though like technically you can't Microwave a burrito so hot that you can't eat it Yeah, so that's yeah, it's yeah, the whole point of omnipotence is that it breaks down as being logically Well, yeah, that's how you define being able to do anything. That's omnipotence. That's the word omnipotence. Can you do that? That's what it means. Yeah, but it depends how you define anything. So can you do something me? That's the omni and omnipotence. If you can do anything Can you can you do something that means that you can't think you can't lot you can't do everything? Because Yes, that's the boulder analogy You can't do both you can't have both of those properties You can't both have the property of being able to create something so heavy You can't lift it and also being strong enough that you can lift it Exactly. Yeah, but that's like dichotomous things. That's why it's like the go-to example Yeah, but when you're defining something is like you're the only reason they can't do that is because you're defining Within the realms of something they can't do which is nothing So it's essentially can you create something more powerful than literally power? No Say it one more time. I don't say it one more time. Okay. So if you if look, okay So if you literally have all power like you control literally everything in every aspect Then it is impossible for something to be more powerful No, it's not it's not a relative statement being more powerful than something else doesn't have anything to do with I'm with this No, but if you okay So if you create a rock so heavy that you can't lift it despite the fact that you are omnipotent No, we're gonna have to stop there We have to stop at that sentence because that doesn't make any logical sense. I forgot what I said Well, if if you say that if you are omnipotent and you create a rock so heavy You can't lift it is like well it stops there because that sentence is Yeah, it's not a valid sentence. That's why people use that's essentially saying that as example you can't create something You can't create something that is so powerful that it literally goes beyond literally infinite power Yeah, you can't do that. You it's like it's like saying infinite doesn't exist because there's nothing like more than infinite Well, and infinite's more conceptual. It's it's it is it is considered. It's conceptual It's impossible like yeah, so happen in real life, but conceptually. Yeah, that's that's omnipotence Like and I'm on it as a concept It can't actually be a property that exists because it it's logically contrary. Yeah, and so we actually Yeah, yeah, that's why modern apologetics Well, this is not something they would have thought of because they are happy to say he can do everything he wants He's super powerful. It's just done done and dust. Oh, yeah Well, I was when I was a Christian and people asked that question We treated it like a joke and we stopped thinking about it like there was there was never any actual exploration into that concept And I think I love his listening to by the way because it just it just breaks down That's why modern apologetic says he can do everything that is logically possible to be done So God cannot create a married bachelor is another example because it's not logically possible He is as he is as powerful as any agent can possibly be is what they change the meanings of those words to make it possible Well words are words don't have meanings. They have shared understandings. So that wouldn't matter anyway Quiet don't go Are we talk? Oh, don't we have a hello greedy? Oh greedy? No, no, I'll agree to fat man. No, we're done Oh, yeah, that's right. We went on a tangent So I assumed we were It can go beyond Greedo, I was pouring myself another drink. Sorry. I've been enjoying this. What are you all drinking? I am drinking tea. I'm sweet and ice-cold. I thought you said you Did I'm not a tea purist. I actually don't care if you drink iced tea. It's okay. Oh Alcohol, did you drink rags? I had a delicious reds apple ale? I have a mics right now. I can't really get into the head. I'm drinking by these What's the last part of what you said? Yes? Oh, I just said it's too early in the day to be drinking too much of the heavy stuff right now So I'm just have a mic No such thing. Yeah, I don't yeah, this stuff isn't heavy. I like the taste I'm big into drinking for taste because I don't want to drink shit. Yeah, absolutely I totally agree with you. Oh, yeah, like I don't drink liquor really I've got I'm very very very Particular about the liquor I drink same thing with wine. I just if it tastes bad. I'm like fuck it What's the point? I have a lot of liquor but people know that already. I like rum because to me It's like the least offensive of the alcohol, especially when you mix it with something How can you how can you think that about rum like? Strongest tastes you can well that well, that's why I said I like it. I mean, I'm pretty sure that's I don't Yeah, I Would I would say I don't even know what I would maybe The grumb is like a punch in the face Um, your opinion. Well, it mixes really well is what I'm it does. It does suck. He's pretty easy drinking Because it's like rum vodka sort of mixed I forgot the name of a fruit. Jay. What's that fruit that's like an orange, but it's not called an orange It's like a big one. I grant it. No Great fruit a bingo Yeah, it's like it is like a big orange. It's nothing like a grape Um, you could say it's kind of like it's kind of like a grape. Yeah, you could say it's a strange grape How is it like a grape? It's it's they're both they're both eukaryotes for starters. They're both great You know, they're both plants. They have juice in them How is it like a great? How is it like a great more so than other fruits specifically I didn't say more I didn't say more. So I was straw man. I was fucking straw man over here Our manager would do that on e-fap I was most clearly defining my terms because I felt like Clearly enough to find that's your opinion. Jay. Is e-fap 51 the e-fap that will tear this family apart I think it is stay tuned next week for e-fap 52 to see if Jay ever shows his face around here again And to think it was all because of passion fruit and letters we had grapes Is everyone ready for me to some kind of gay Is everybody for me to have more like gaylies? I want to make sure we actually get through a little bit Just in case rags is unable to hear the rest of it. It would be some more fun. That's fair. Oh, yeah We can take a look like they hate that argument. Oh video, right? Because it's That's not an argument. I would I'd say he's been too charitable There's quantitative statements and there's qualitative statements a quantitative statement would be stop Well, he's not necessarily saying that's what he means yet a qualitative statement is um of something that is not numerical So it's like it is this or it is that a qualitative statement is something that you can define a value So it's you know, it's 3.59 out of you say did you say a positive statement? A qualitative statement. Oh, okay Hang on. I want to see if that's a qualitative data is defined as data that approximating characterizes so qualitative Like it can be one of and you know, it's like um It's like I fucking can't think this is qualitative data can be observed and recorded Well, that's true. It can So well, but I assumed his point wasn't going to be that I assume wait. Wait a second. Hold up. Um, can't all isn't all data That because that it's data like by definition. That's like right away pretend i'm retarded How do you how do you split those two apart jay? Just just Yeah I've already had a bit to drink though. So it's not fair. Uh, what okay, so I don't know if that I did this is purely from How I was taught it in psychology because I I didn't ever learn it in any other context but in psychology qualitative is um Like a b or c, you know multiple joints answers, you know There are only a certain number of answers that can be given to this How do you translate that to like let's just say judging a rock in some way? All right. So qualitative would be um Fuck kind of think of a single qualitative thing Like would it be it has to reach a certain amount of mass to be considered x I might be able to save you because that's that's a that's a quantity. Okay. So, um, if it if it's literally, you know If it is a longer spectrum or um So you you can assign a value to it and you can go infinitesimally smaller than that Yeah, no, it's really Quantitative data can be counted measured and expressed using numbers Qualitative data is descriptive and conceptual Yes All right, let's continue with the video. Okay Thing going back to ruby and got an objective problem The fact that aura is described in different ways that don't That are mutually exclusive That is a quantitative statement You can say that like in volume two or was passive in volume Four or five on word. It's active. That's a quantitative statement. And if you think that's a problem Then that's a qualitative statement. Okay. We have to ignore that guy just said. Yeah Yeah, uh, he started He started off strong, but then he's like no bad example So if we translate this to media, which i'm not even sure that we should be doing I imagine theo is desperate to be able to put us back on track with this because he probably knows more about this But just for the particular terms, I mean Well, I okay. We can we can bring theo it and just give me a sec. I just wanted to say that like so want uh quantitative That's the word. Yeah Like um, that's one of them the amount Of plot holes there are and the degree to which they affect progress. These are things that like can be Assessed not I wouldn't I don't know if I go as far as saying numerically, but we can actually identify ones and zeros to a degree Well, I think you could count the plot holes Quantitatively the degree would be qualitatively Yeah, so no the degrees value the degree like five out of ten. That's a value. So like when we say something like in the sense of like, um An example would be how much more if there's not a specific amount, but you know that it's more Well, what I was going to reference is like so, you know, like let's just say a shoe is in the background It turns upside down between shots Like so that's pretty much on the lowest end of the fucking Scale it doesn't matter in any way shape or form But then you have the stuff that literally allowing the biggest payoff to happen involves massive plot holes to be ignored Like those are at the top of the scale Again, I'm not trying to say that we have some kind of written document to explain how to categorize these things But we do tend to operate as if that is the case and we have a shared understanding of the difference most Reasonable people do accept that the shoe that turned around is not as severe as captain marvel destroying everything in endgame The shoe that's under it I'm making that up The idea is that you nobody out there says well, no those two Yeah, that's another one like Nobody's arguing that um the starbucks cup is as serious an issue as denarius murdering thousands of innocent children Yeah So the implication being that there is a system by which we're scaling them Too fair. I'm sure there is the one person Barring those Yeah, right. Yeah, there will be the one guy who's like no the shoe. Fuck Um, the thing is though, I'm curious if theo would say that um These are like things that we should even be using with with what we're talking about. I don't know I mean, I would say that the key to getting their foot in the door is to just acknowledge they exist Right Um, because you find a lot of critics will say that they'll say that uh, you can say objectively that things are things Um, that's a plot hole. It's a plot hole. Like there's no Like no, it's a subjectively a plot hole or something like that. I don't know how far these guys go The example of saying like let's say that in the force awakens They say that po blew up star killer base and then they said in the next movie po did not blow up star killer base And these were both authoritative like narrative sources saying that Well, I can say the same the same person saying it Well, we you have an example of that, right? Yeah, yeah people can say two contradictory things But them saying it isn't the plot hole Right. Well, you could have an explanation of that Right. No, then They could they could believe each they could also believe it and still they could be brainwashed The idea is that if with all the information you have at hand That there's the example being the Finn is shocked that they chase them through hyperspace and he's like that's impossible And then the next scene he's like, oh shit, we can destroy the breaker for the hyperdrive because I know I used to work there It's like, um These pieces of information seem to contradict each other Finn is just dumb Well, this is the thing you could actually you could direct on it You have to stretch it to its most absurd degree to try and say that's not a plot Well, and we have examples of that when we say hux should have shot the radars We have people saying yeah, but hux is is an idiot hux is raging Hux you have to make emotional arguments because it doesn't make sense This is the fanatical star wars disney universe, right? And that's yeah, that's a thing I've seen that now. It was funny. Anyway, let's Let these people continue The statement and if you think that's a problem Then that's a qualitative statement. That's a quality. That's a qualitative statement based on a quantitative fact um now for like but that's still something you value for someone who doesn't care about retcons You can value it that doesn't mean that it's subjective just because you value it The fact that you value it subjective If anything the value is the standard that you're using And as long as you're being consistent with that standard it can be used pretty much identically to objectivity I feel like the conversation is going to get even more muddled by throwing in the qualitative and quantitative In with subject of object and value. I wouldn't worry about it. Yeah, they don't mean the things that he thinks they mean was the thing we've got So you have five people in this column and three people in their conversation and this many key terms all going around without clear definitions It's like this is just a recipe for not understanding each other I think it was better now than it wasn't going to Is that okay, that might be that might be the debate you two need to have because it might be the argument of Well, you care about you or him care about different things in that regard But I don't sort of but that's not really what the argument's never been about me caring about it because I didn't I didn't care about the plot holes in endgame when I was watching it I've used the different arguments for this before I'm I'm just as flawed as anyone is when it comes to not noticing that I didn't notice a lot of what was wrong with TLJ my first time around I noticed the big stuff the big the first thing I wanted to talk to people about was hold those plan I was like this is like it was glaring to me and simultaneously It's the one that just right said is be most people won't notice and I was always just like You won't notice the whole film Several people people just won't notice the film An objective standpoint Uh, because objective no it's based on fact if I believe no it doesn't mean based on fact Okay, hold on hold on hold on hold on Well, I guess it depends on how you would he thinks the last gen I was gonna say it's complicated The main qualifier is just irrelevant of how you feel or personal bias Yeah, not relying on opinion is all it is to be fair. It's almost impossible to say something irrelevant of personal bias Why no two plus two is four No, just why J explain Because everything you you are like biased by nature in everything that you'd say You may think that something is objective, but in everything you've learned and everything that's gonna, you know, everything's Okay, so for example, there is a mouse on my desk mouse meaning a pc The referral. Yeah, so so what about that statement was subjective? I can't be bothered to go further with this line of thinking It's because bullshit I love you. I can say that bias is absolutely color a great deal of Basically, all that we think about that agreed to which they do and our ability to remove bias through the use of independent verification Though can solve this issue very very and you'll find it happens all the time you'll have biases Can create literal false memories. Yes, um But I was gonna say like you'll have this will happen all the time You'll you'll be able to catch yourself like for example Someone just goes oh my god The fucking that movie was terrible and someone else is like why and you go fucking I know Justin Timberlake was in it and you so bad and you're like, was he that bad? I didn't think he was that bad and you eventually like the person makes so many arguments Soon you eventually realize like oh, I just hate Justin Timberlake. Fuck Okay, I've seen this about um Spider-verse people saying it was bad because it was an sjw movie because Miles is a black replacement for a white character Right This is the yeah, we're not a fan of that We can be frustrated with that I don't care about no bullshit's arguments And yeah, this is the thing like identifying your biases is great Not him his comment section finding out like things you have issues with Can really help with with how you'll absorb stuff in future because you'll be like oh, I have to Keep an eye on myself for like I really have an issue with this person I don't even know why or this piece of media or this this place or this object this these you know It just happened But then race when you get down to really simple statements like the one I just gave you like I don't know I am currently in a house It's like what's the bias there and you'd have to start arguing really philosophical stuff like your concept of what a house is It's subjective. You're like, okay I just hope that these discussions don't end at hard solipsism and then we have a Sight and brook a case at our It's catastrophic idiot You know what it's like right in the room right in the back stuff Astro Anyway, I'm going on Bad movie, right? Yeah Yeah, he spent 11 hours talking about it. He must think it's bad um Okay Uh purely I could talk about things. I love for 11 hours. Yeah, that yeah, I don't follow that logic I get what you're trying I can try and stop me from talking about Buffy if you've watched it yourself. I'll ask you like every question under the sun Active inarguable fact Uh that one shot in that movie was in focus, right? And being in focus is a good thing Therefore the movie is good. Oh my god. No Very interesting since I've mainly talked about writing but okay Yeah, if anything that's just a quality statement about a certain segment of the movie It's the same nitpick argument. Oh, he doesn't like the red light there for the movie's bad If he's I think he's trying to present me a problem without my own logic But I just be like but if you accept my own logic Then you would have to agree that I'm segmenting it And almost grading the portions and so if visuals come up with an a but writing comes over than f That doesn't equalize to an a Well, that's that's why instantly all of us were like, uh, no Well, yeah, we're all frustrated. It's like this is fucking garbage arguments The same thing you hear all the damn time with the whole thing is like, oh, there was a nitpick there for the whole movie's bad I am so Is his deep and thorough critique has both the big things and the little things That's like after my another life video people genuinely told me that I was nitpicking after I said that the um Fucking the the characters motivations literally made no sense the plot contradicted itself like the core premise of one episode Contradicted the core premises of another one. I'm pretty um also The series has like sexual assault apologetics in it without like really realizing it Um, and then people go, oh, you're nitpicking and I'm like why and they're like, well, I don't care about those things and like That's another word I would ask someone to identify and what I found more commonly there But nitpick means invalid criticism. It's like what's why do we have a word for that? It valid They don't care about Well, then you just ask them. All right. What word would you like to use to define valid criticisms that are relatively very small or potentially very minor Because if we can't use nitpick, what would you like to use as a substitute? Yeah, I don't want to concede nitpick ground to to automatically invalid. I was like, fuck that the whole point of nitpick That that's just designed to make them go like. Oh, yeah, of course. It's the same with opinion, right? Yeah, I hope you're noticing audience that the main issue me and rags seem to have with all of this is just getting them to define their fucking terms Yeah, because people don't think about it. They just don't they just don't think about this stuff They just kind of accept it and it's not something that is brought up in typical converse say like tell people color doesn't exist And they'll be like, what the fuck? Oh, and I I think we also expect them I think they also need to at least watch the fucking videos first Well, that would be cool. He's judging my twitter personality. That's what he said Well, no, he can't watch him because he described earlier on twitter that your longness is like an inherent defense mechanism essentially I'm picturing like a david attenborough documentary now. He uses longness to defend himself Piece of shit No, you can picture that, right? David Attenborough Yeah, like narrating about how it uses length The mauler uses its own length to Defend itself against potential predators. Here we see Natural mauler in its environment Praying upon the subjective creatures of the world You see Right, it's timed. I've made a complete. I've made an objective when the new star was released. It is time to feed Argument for why the movie is good That's a fair argument. No, there there was no argument than that There was not an argument in that so movie good because shot was in focus The fact that it was in focus is good And yes, that's that's subjective essentially. Yes, if we use clarity As a as our as a standard or as a qualitative measurement And he's like, all right using that as this as the measurement as is using using clarity as the desired result We can then measure the quality of That aforementioned, you know fuzziness that blurriness If that if if that's how you want to define it. Yeah He argued that's a fair argument But it is Supplementary information that is based upon but what what what does he value with supplementary? Why don't you watch the shit? You would know if you watched exactly it's very straightforward So what are visuals doing? It's like well, they're representing Uh, the things that are in the story. It's like, okay. What's the sound doing? It's like giving sound to the things in the story is like, uh-huh. What are the actors doing? Well, they're representing the characters in the story like huh seems like every single thing Is is working to accentuate the script almost like the the story of this story is the core part is the The entirety for everything else existing everything else is just trying to make the script work or at least project it Because we don't watch films to have some guy in a chair read them to us It's like we we we have all these other things to show them And so if you have incredibly good acting like fucking Mark Hamill doing it some really great shot composition great cgi um A whole bunch of amazing songs and sound in the soundtrack from Mr. Williams himself. It's like oh, so the film can't be bad if has all of those nailed right like, um I suppose depending on exactly how we would break down what it is to be a film a good film bad film whatever, but um If I'm specifically talking about the writing which I have been trying to be specific about in future from now on So there's no confusion Um, I think the most important thing about a story is the writing rather than the jangly keys. That's just IMO So so hopefully that that clears that up. I don't know Besides this is a plenty of arguments to be made about the um the acting the sequel trilogy It's not like Mark Hamill's doing when we consider a lot of people consider Daisy Ridley to be terrible um Milo Ren is like one note to degree Got hold of which was frustrating. There's a there's a lot of like conversation and then um Glib as well as other people would like to argue that the film is actually poorly shot slash Poor cinematography so you'd have to hear out those arguments too and then repurposing music Is it something we should celebrate when they literally just repeat music from the older films? Like I don't know All of these are very interesting conversations, wouldn't you agree? No Okay, I want to talk about minecraft high fighters. No He's he's making he's saying these are the factual Yeah, okay. All right. All right. Yeah, save it for your debates. I honestly think it'd be be more interesting No, okay. The reason I don't want to debate him is because he is setting the terms of What it means to be right You can set Terms all you want if you want to define words the way you want What do you say I had to step up? He said that um, the reason he doesn't want to debate me is because I will Set the terms on what it means to be right What All right, let's roll it back for him. He set the terms on what it means to be right Okay, the reason I don't want to debate him is because he is setting the terms of what it means to be right Yeah, that's called a debate the I was gonna say that's not even outside of That's like all debates. The other person wants to set the terms on what's correct If if I make it a claim about what it would mean to be the winner of the debate and he disagreed with it Then we would have to work on that first. That's fine. I would say but then fuck it. Then let's just talk I was but this is bizarre. This feels like the most squirmiest way to be like, I don't want to debate. Look at Lord The fuck does this even mean The objective opinion is his one and what the fuck What where'd you get that? He's like quintan reviews where he's like rags and mola think their opinions are objective and everyone else is subjective It's like, did you even listen to anything we say? No, no acting like he said so. It feels like they deliberately ignore us and just assume what we're saying Come on work a little bit harder The objective opinion is his one and he is going in so that anyone trying to argue against him Is automatically wrong. Not even true. There's plenty of people have debated or exceeded points If you believe that you are right, then anyone going against you Is going to be wrong automatically based on that assumption that because that's why we think what we do because we think it's right And the alternatives are wrong. The hugely controversial debate that we all enter a debate if we're right If you believe one position in a dichotomy, then you believe that the people who believe the other position are wrong That's how that works. Yes. That's the unspoken Yes, it's ah At the beginning of every debate if you were to ask both participants, do you think that your perspective is the correct one? And they said no, I'd be like Well, then why are you even here? What's the point? automatically wrong He's like my my opinion I he uses the term like the robot correct like if a robot reviewed this You only mentioned that like how many times have you actually talked about the robot once with the just right and every single time We've talked about it since it's been correcting people because they for some reason people like fat man falling I'm gonna guess right now. He's gonna assume. So we'll just go over it quickly So I believe in the just right debate He was talking about how you can't make objective statements as a human because you're a human And then I was like so let's just theoretically invent a robot incapable of making biased statements Um, because it's it's just mechanical and it only runs on the the basis of judging things as logical errors Um, yes because objectivity exists outside minds being able to come Because like the premise being that I can identify a logical error But I only consider it a problem from a subjective bias or something And it's like well, what would it mean to be lacking a subjective bias? Like if you're just steel, I guess you didn't actually have any kind of investment in anything emotional Um So and you just run the script through the little robot and it poops out a bunch of results. It's like hold o plan Uh, there's a failure for her to describe the plan to poem this section this section this section that would have You know, I don't know how the fuck this robot would work The point was that if the robot presented these problems to Joseph not Joseph Aniston just right It's hard to keep track of all these things He would not be able to respond robot. You're biased You you feel these are problems when they're not problems or something You should be like no, I'm just I'm just doing what the the the program ran I've got no I got no investment here based off of the criteria that you've given me. That's all I'm doing And I was trying to argue that we can do that we can we can operate like that Uh, similarly to how I said, you know mouse on my desk. There's nothing there that There's no process that required feeling. Um, so we can be the because we're all conduits, right? I've been trying to bring that word in as well as attempt to maybe bridge the gap of some people We can only do what we can do Like we try our best So if we all watch the film a film the five of us then you fast forward one week And then we're all supposed to describe how the film went down in detail from start to finish All five of us are gonna have different accounts That's just this we're doing the best we can but we're human we we we are flawed We're gonna remember things wrong Then you have a sixth guy who has access to the file And is told that the more accurate he is the more money he gets something then yeah He's probably just gonna play it Uh hear a line pause read the line play it and he's probably gonna have the best results And so I try and advocate That to get the best work when analyzing media is to basically not only redraft your own work several times But to if it's a movie rewatch it several times watch what it's a part of as a series Look into other people's perspectives to really see if you've missed anything Because sometimes you can watch a film seven times and still miss something important That rant over yeah We all do the best we can some of us This is another thing I get caught up on that people hated. I was in a stream with wolf I think it was prior or post the just right thing right said the Me and wolf had like you could call it a gift or an ability or something else to just be able to break down media Faster and more effective than many people can and they were like wow how fucking high do you think yourself? It's like Okay So if we're to accept that there is ability the critical analysis is a skill and it's something you can learn and become better at Then is it controversial to say that someone could be better at it than someone else? Like oh, yeah, just it's it's super simple or some people better film Better film analysis than others is like you would have to be insane to say no everyone is equally good at analyzing Well, they would because everything subjective when it comes to that, right? Well, if anything that just Oh, then that's like cutting off their nose just by their face Because that the values every single thing that they do True They would probably say that we're all just as valuable everybody's saying anything about a movie is just as valuable It would be hard to explain then why it is that some people are more popular than others Is it literally just based on the way they look? or something else Yeah, that that would be insane It's that's almost so insane I'd have to stop and think about it and be like wow How do you even tackle something so insane that literally everybody has the exact same quality Of that in the quality's analysis It's a sad reality, right? That because Theo just mentioned in chat Like what right do I have to critique a subject if I'm not fluent in this mechanism? So if someone's talking about how amazing their car was and we were looking in like the actual pieces of it and everything And I'm just standing there knowing nothing about cars and I go No, I think it's a shit car. Yeah mechanics a great example And I need to like why do you think it's a shit car and I go? I don't know. It's it's ugly Like why is it ugly? You know? Oh well because I don't know some of these pipes are wrong I don't like them If someone said yeah more your opinion is like barely relevant like I don't give a fuck I can't then go like And then someone might be like yeah, but art isn't a car and I'd be like well for one it can be Very much so you can have artists work really fucking hard on cars Secondly, well fucking old design when it comes to technology as an art It's absolutely like Man using its Standing of technology to minimize The amount of resources required to make it while also maximizing its efficiency as technology, right? That's like the How could you not call that artistic but more to the point? Scripting I'd say that's utilitarian. I'd say that's the opposite of artistic Is it? Well, yeah, because if you're going for You know, it's efficiency and I don't think that's that's artistic It has to do with its utility like you know, like so let's say you create something that's Mind-blowing in terms of a breakthrough in terms of I don't know a phone or a car or whatever I can like behold it in awe I'm like that's incredible and This this is going to push us into the definition of art So I kind of want to stay away from it because that's going to be a rabbit hole too um, that's fine Let's just move to the point I was trying to make which was You have people who know how scripts work. Maybe they they write them for a living Or they've been watching a bazillion films and then you have a guy who's never seen one before It's like everyone's opinion is valid. It's like, yeah, I Not really the point like what do you mean valid does I be like when you say that? What do you mean by everyone like an invalid opinion? Well, I mean validity in terms of logical structure does have a definition Well, that's another way I would just ask for their Yeah, Jay is posting pictures of very ugly cars It's the same ugly car. I don't know who designed but they need to not I just like that. That's still the go-to car. It's like, do you know any ugly cars? Yes at fiat one Yeah, it's the it's the double chin car Are you saying that's the fat man car I'm saying that car gets to vote twice. That's the mall of fields of cars mall of fields of cars The fact that we've said it's the fiat double chin car and it's the ugly car people know what we're talking about Yeah, I think they actually do typically um See though, I think that we've gotten we've we've drilled out way more interesting conversations out of this this this No, we kill the question to denial People are saying can we see google fiat double chin car? I did put it on screen um It is a it is a monstrosity of metal and plastic and glass I remember like the first time I saw that when I was a child thinking what the fuck Like why why is wrong with that car? Yes, it has problems. No, not only that was a bright it was a bright orange one as well So that nobody misses it It's like oh look at my shit car My car is amazing You're right. I like it tastes like aceline aceline So someone mentioned that apparently eric's been talking about me on twitter and I'm just having to look Of course he has if I can see keywords mohler showing up It's about my video because I released is it about how long it is the game of thrones one long man bad Oh, he said he got here. Are you implying mohler's critiques are useful to writers because lol Okay You know the ridicule baby As a writer myself, I would say I find your critiques useful mohler I would absolutely say that if somebody wants to have a story. That's consistent That they're they could they could get great value from watching your Even if it's if it's nothing But somebody highlighting bad examples Then that could give value to people because they'll know what to kind of look for as bad examples Fucking even if they don't even if they don't say why if it's just nothing bad. This is bad. This is bad. This is bad. This is bad They're like, oh, yeah, those are bad I should avoid those. Eric is a she now. Oh, well, sorry patricia is a she now as far as I'm still calling him Eric Because I don't know. I don't know what I don't know the specifics. I don't know if he's fucking with me What's going on like I don't I don't follow Eric extensively So I don't know if it's like a thing where they just fucking around with names on twitter If it's an actual full-on real thing. I don't know Eric patricia. I'll call you whatever you want Um, I won't so he posted She posted whatever. Um, there's a post of my My thumbnail Way easier and and and patricia has said This is a visual representation where I like to watch mollusk content and it's the this is the screenshot I've got of Daenerys looking gorgeous picture of himself Um, and so I responded is more of that bad and then patricia said not that bad just mediocre and pretentious That's interesting. Do you mean that objectively? Oh, no, uh-oh And then they said, um, well, I guess I should just I can just not only show this on stream But um, sorry, we'll come back to fat man. We're dealing with another one of my critics You got a are you implying something? Oh, this is just what fat man was doing. Are you saying this? Oh, wait, wait, uh, click that and then go to the top. I meant to link you so my argument is saying lol If you go scroll to the top, I read out the part where uh, so you got we're down to um I don't know. I just watched three of his videos and they were quite decent Please elaborate and then patricia says his criticism is thorough but surface level all he does All he does it all under the pretense of striving for objective criticism in art which can't exist Okay, but even if that's wrong What about what I say like that's the If that's the conclusion, what about everything else I said? Like I talk about themes. Is that a Subtext are we not allowed? I thought those were what he considers beyond she considers beyond surface level I used to loathe his stands But after a while I just realized he meant criticism based on objective evidence instead of a judgment of truth about a piece of media No, that's him moving the gulp. Sorry. Let me read that again After all I realized he meant criticism based on objective evidence instead of a judgment of truth about a piece of media I'm not sure I do agree with that Multi-objectify a standard judgment of truth About a piece of media. Is that something I do? I'm trying to think about the words judgment of truth I I imagine that what he's trying to say here is that it's It corresponds to what's really happening in the media But he's saying that I don't say that that's something I do say that he meant Instead of I used to love but I realized he meant criticism based on objective evidence Instead of a judgment of truth about a piece of media That's all that sounds contradictory to me. Yeah, I'd have to ask for uh elaboration on that No, that's him moving the goalposts. Everyone gives criticism based on objective. No, they don't That's I don't even agree with that like that's not even something I do necessarily Everybody can give criticism based on how they feel or objective evidence. You can do both I can like I said, I can dislike Justin Timberlake for example And then watch a movie where he's the protagonist and be like, no, I don't like it because I find him annoying That's not objective He's not objectively annoying subjective that he's in it True, but yeah, that's the thing is like everything subjective is like is daisy ridley an actor and the poor Is In fact, you could make as many objective observations out of pieces you like But as soon as you make a judgment of quality, you've entered the realm of subjectivity And then they said uh not necessarily some criticisms are able to be qualified solely by subjective measures If a viewer engages a scene outside of his content that isn't meant by the author It's still a valid subjective take that's useful for other viewers. Just not for the author I mean it might be useful for the author, right EG someone could argue for a hypothetical non-intended theme over any kind of writing But if the evidence taken for that interpretation goes contrary to the text, then it's simply arguing for your own perspective Starting out a conclusion instead of getting to it. Yeah, I'd agree with that It's just the author could be interested by it Like if you wrote a story that had no theme and then someone drew one out of it, you might be like, oh that's uh cool To judge something objectively would be similar to compiling a hypothesis It's derived from the object and then changes over contrary evidence. That's why There could be several objective takes made out of different amounts of information and ambiguity within the text The point of striving for objectivism, although one could never achieve it in the theory Is to help the author in the craft of the media Meanwhile, the point of subjective criticism is to help different kinds of viewers to Stipulate or understand their own engagement of the text. I kind of like that overall He has a decent decent viewpoint on the whole thing And then that's where he says um are you implying that mollus critiques are useful to writers because lol I mean, how do we how do we how do we prove that that would be the case? Would I just have to find writers that find my stuff useful? Is that all I need to do? Or would they not be considered pretty solid supporting evidence pretty much? Yeah, you probably only need one because that's yeah, that's literally the thing that I guess he's saying isn't true But what would taxes say in response like they're not real writers? Yeah What they're finding useful isn't what they think is useful I guess he would try to say it does more harm than good and I'm like all right well I don't believe that do tell From what I can tell from watching his videos and talking to him personally Moeller is striving for some kind of prescriptive version of theory in order to aid in communication about what it means for something to be good But theory already does this descriptively I don't know if I want to read all of this I don't either Keep on keeping on tax on me and rags enthusiastically await your video on on him. We will we will enjoy our success in our large communities and our happiness and joy and we will enjoy the discussions that we have And you don't worry. You don't have to come to our birthday party And yeah, I'm I'm I'm happy to hear you want to complete the trifecta of covering wolf myself and now rags It will we'll have a wonderful party Enjoying what's going to be a very generous take on whatever rags feels about certain positions I already know you consider him a complete racist. So it's a good start. Yeah I'm sure it will be extremely accurate to the uh to what I'm actually thinking We're gonna say please racist you mean like a racist who's found himself and is comfortable with who they are Well, he's also, uh, please wear clothes Oh god You can't make that kind of restriction upon him YouTube has to censor it. Yeah, that's true. If yeah Yeah, probably is actually wait, how does that work if you identify as female and take your shit off on youtube Is that kind of it is like fanable nudity? How does that work? Also, if youtube doesn't censor that are they being transphobic? Damn It's almost like it's just fucked up. We can't be the first people to come across this as an issue, right? Yeah, what if I take a woman's breasts be the first person to come across trans female nipples Well, if you take a if you take a naked dude, right? And then you photoshop off his nipples and then replace those onto the nipples of breasts on a woman Is that still pornography? Is it still? I mean that doesn't break to shop to man's nipples Onto a woman's nipples. So it's that's not female nipples Yeah technically You imagine being like, you know, you've got a you've got a normal Like your nine till five is moderating twitch or something and you just you have a family and this one's like asking you that question You're like, I don't fucking know. I don't know. They don't tell me these things It's almost like these types of politics just slow everything down Well, it's almost like deciding that male nipples are okay and female nipples aren't dumb as shit Well, it's probably all comes back to the the boob, right? Yeah, breasts are sexual, but a man's chest isn't people want to say that boobs are like dirty And that you're not allowed to see them and what's the center of the boob the nipple Therefore, it's the nipple that's wrong, but a nipple is just a it's the female. It's the female nipple If anyone wants to quote me on a nipple is just a nipple. That's okay It's just a nipple That's just just just call call that this stream. It's just episode 51. It's just a nipple Molly you have to do that now Do what change the title to episode 51. It's just a nipple. I can't do that You can literally can't it's your channel. You can edit I made a deal with the devil. That's the one thing I he said I couldn't Satan says free the nipple that's your opinion j Like Are you gonna are you gonna follow your audience? All right, who am I supposed to listen to rags or j We're both saying the same thing. So no, I'm good. I'm gonna So I'm gonna have a follow-up question. I don't want to ask both of you Uh, I'm curious what j will say All right, j what specifically do you want the title to be? EFAP number 51. I forgot what we were saying That's the title I forgot specific the whole I forgot specifically part. I forgot what we were saying rags. What were we saying? I want to call it that it'd be funny though That's the best title ever That's amazing Okay, I guess we're great. Thank you j All right We did it It was supposed to be a self-check He actually just went into that on the most recent EFAP where the entire idea is you have to You have to bounce your own subjective opinion off of that Okay, I'm gonna misrepresent it because he talked about how so many people took that the wrong way He he I guess it's kind of hard to take whatever way he's thinking makes him come out on top I mean if the way you're twisting it, I'm sure you would laugh after saying something is just true without evidence I'm sure it makes it true Mm-hmm Plenty of people did not have a problem with the robot plenty of people did those people include Quentin reviews just right fat man falling Fucking what a good list of names. Yeah, I know these are all fantastic content creators Super quality a lot of detail about those things either that or the people he's fighting against are just articulating their points wrong I wouldn't say that's impossible. Yeah, cuz like it is He uh got patrick williams He got a patrick williams video where he wrote on a big old piece of cardboard This is a movie about space wizards for children and he's like That's that's uh, you know, he's using a subjective viewpoint What no No, so Let me explain this to you in simple terms fat man. So the idea Is that if we we no longer apply logic to a film if it has Fantasy elements in it as in things that aren't in real life Is a retarded statement and then the follow-up being well, I mean I should probably explain that So we have plenty of fiction that we judge based on internal consistency versus reality like um comparisons to reality because How the fuck we supposed to write any stories about anything If we're bound to exactly what is capable of happening on it. I mean, it's not like we can't do it It's just that it just limits media Greatly, I was gonna say massively and then I was like, I better change it That's true because some infinities can be greater than others And so you got people like patrick williams like, oh, yeah, there's there's no adult fantasy stories There's no adult sci-fi stories all that not a thing. So yeah, fuck it and then also Judging the fact that something is built for kids. Therefore cannot be logically consistent cannot be well written cannot Try and strive for greatness like not only wrong because there's loads of children's content That's incredible for adults as well But why the fuck is that true? Why is it that we should go? Oh, it's for kids. Fuck it There's a lot of these assertions that they make and that they just say this is just true And they just like even begin to try and justify it And I made the opposite assertion in my video that if it comes to children's content We should take more care if anything Because you need to be careful with what you show children Like a female nipple So if patrick williams says we're not supposed to judge it blah blah blah because it's for kids I'm not saying. Oh, that is a subjective take from patrick williams. I was like, no It's just tattered as hypocritical probably like knew more about patrick williams takes about media I just need to find something he considers. Well, actually, no, you don't even have to go further than the last Jedi He's telling us we shouldn't be so angry about a film meant for children when he's talking about how it's the greatest thing ever And he's he's like ranting to his parents about how much he loves it So how come you're allowed to go one way with your emotions, but not the other? Exactly your rule seems unfair Yeah, congratulations on not only letting us know that you don't really watch my content outside of the ones that you care about Which means the ones you saw but you also didn't understand what I was saying Excellent job You know, he's using a subjective viewpoint whereas his viewpoint of The things he prefers Is the objective one When it's like he doesn't under it feels like i'm listening to like someone who's drunk in a bar who watched part of my video Try and explain it to me Like you like you just think you're played in the background. You're like, so he's trying to convey You say objective when it's art man, you can't do that How much I have likes for it is different than your likes What seems to be the officer problem His viewpoint is just as subjective like the things he values They don't stop throwing so many words around at once without defining them. What do I value? Is complex you asking me what I like What things I want to see in a thing and and and personally get satisfaction from is that what you're saying? It's just it's so easy. Just take any two statements Maybe not any two statements, but let's just take these two ones two plus two is four That's the one statement What it's not I disagree it's not a statement No, it's not four All right, so the second statement would be Audrey Hepburn is beautiful Right and then say that both of those are completely equal in terms of their subjective value And then you tell him you tell him that after what he said and just watch it all crumble Apparently Celtic is here Hello Celtic I Want to know what the black things behind you are Oh, yeah, we were we were debating. We actually don't know they are So on one hand is this sound dampening in some way or is it what I think it is which is a A sort of clothing shield type type thing you put up when you want to like Dress and you've you've used it as a sort of way to cover up. Oh a dressing screen thing Yeah, but like a black one because like I have something that looks similar to that, but it's orange not black so Really? Um, and yeah, if he wants to he can he can jump on with us if he wants to do Let's just we we only need another minute to finish this video and I imagine the end Well, I've actually got a it's a shame because I actually have to head out. So, um I will I'll have to call it there for my time And I'll event I'll watch the rest of this later and you'll have to fill me in on the black screen Um plastic conundrum. We might have to push memes to the next episode because rags is gonna have to go But that's okay. Yes. I do have I do have I do have to go I did not expect basically I had a whole lineup for intro and then memes I thought the intro was gonna be an hour at most and we're at three and a half. So Rags, I'm gonna resent you eternally now I'll link you all the memes jade Well, I guess there's just I get then I guess there's nothing I could do about that So I'm not gonna worry you want to just close out this video the right only a minute I mean I don't I don't I don't They only have value the person that I'm going with is notoriously impunctual. Is it unpunctual a punctual I think it's impunctual impunctual. I personally I would just go for unreliable They are often So I I will text them and say I will be over there in just Eventually in just eventually I'm sure we're nearing the end There's no real value. So what the fuck does real me? Like every time you bring in a new tab I like cringe internally. I'm like, no You want to watch this as a movie about space wizards for children then Then patrick willams is being Objective did you miss the part where you use that as a counter argument to people labeling criticisms So what he was saying saying it can't be he's he's trying to shrug away criticism With what I would consider almost a non sequitur by saying that it is a space is a movie about space wizards meant for children Which is completely irrelevant unless any connection because I don't see any connection that he was trying to make It's it really is baffling but yeah, he used that as a way to shrug off the things that we said So for you to say that it's the same thing is interesting To say because he's trying to argue that patrick is explaining the way in which he views the film And it's like he tried to use it as a counter to criticisms It doesn't work as a counter as rags just said it's a non sequiturs is bizarre You almost had to double take you like what do you mean? It's a space was a film for children What is this connection between that being a rebuttal until you like make the connection because it's just so out there Also, yeah, people are saying he wants on I know I know I just said earlier We're gonna finish the video. We're nearly done and I'll bring him on. It's all right Anyway, we have to turn slightly to the right. Can we see tissues on that chest? I want to change my vote up to 90 90 I think I'm with jay on the 90 and if you want to watch it as The whatever moller likes, you know the you know the the consistency of writing Okay, so if that were true, how does he explain the fact that I adore end game and I can see that end game is poorly written Like I what I would love for him to watch our discussion of end game and just watch his brain explode Because we ripped into that movie and we love that movie all at the same time. I I love hate end games so much Yeah, yeah Or the you know like He also doesn't matter what he likes. We're not talking about likes the characters that the character's making bad decisions Yeah, I'm severe. No, you're giving me plenty of time to find out what to eat for dinner. So It's like you're just Understand that what's happening here is there someone who refuses to debate person b Trying to awkwardly and terribly explain to person a what person b thinks It's just it's crazy, but this is what it's come to Oh, yeah I know that I would be fucking slaughtered Because I can't I can't even articulate my point to somebody else who Who who casually in conversation? Isn't even moller. What hope do I possibly have against moller and rags? I don't know man. If he comes in here and says you guys are joking, right? What are we gonna do? We're fucked Like no, I would just say no, we're being very serious take take everything that we say seriously Then you'll laugh in terms of objectivity and subjectivity. We'll just slowly wait for him to make a point Yeah, it's like make whatever point you'd like and we'll analyze it one thing at a time We can we can take it as seriously as you want Because like I said like all the examples that we've been giving they just break down at the most base level because he doesn't think about it Yeah, and there we are. All right Um, okay Altic phoenix if you can hear me go into the description Of this stream find a link to my discord get in there and then at me In the discord and I will get you in this call. That's the easiest way I can make this work Um, and yeah, that was um, that was interesting and fat man. You could have just stayed away We ended our conversation on good terms last time no And yeah, apparently he's got a ball of video with the works Which I mean if only I had a podcast where I discussed with friends the ideas of people who criticize us But no I can't wait for it. It'll be great. Um, that we have that in tax and back to back. It'll be great Well, think about the the the sheer volume of the discussion that we've had the past x amount of hours on this very loose Kind of casual chatter between people in a podcast Just goes to show how much depth there can be to this conversation Absolutely. Uh, this is the thing like another thing they think is a counter to us is like you guys accept the fact that the conversation isn't over and it's like Yeah, whoa Yeah, god forbid We love the fact that the conversation goes on new evidence comes in new ideas everybody agreed with us then All right, well, let's think about it This is the thing we've been wrong before we'll make statements and then we'll be like, oh, fuck Why did I think that that was the way it was? Okay. Yeah, sorry. Yeah Like a way that we can identify that we're incorrect is because we believe objectivity exists Checking checking one two three. Can everyone hear me? Yeah I I do need to go though. So I will catch everybody on the laders Hi rags. Hello. Hi Just wanted to do that Well, I um, I'm sure we'll bump into each other very soon either in his discord or what or in the afterlife Or in the afterlife one of those two in valhalla, of course Where you get to debate subjectivity and objectivity forever and ever and ever So I'll catch you later. See you dude boy. All right Uh, well, hello, hello everyone. Hello All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna be completely like this is one of the most exciting things I I ever since I really started watching e-fap. I was like, I gotta get on and I And I'm like I looked at batman and I'm like you you Don't like moller And because it's so weird to me because batman He and you moller have such similar Reviewing styles At least it feels that way to me. I mean a lot of people have commented you guys have very similar styles and I see it honestly And I don't know I've been trying to just communicate with him exactly what Where's the discrepancy? Why does he hate you so much and I don't get it Oh, I mean, uh, I think it seems to be the The framing like that I'll be like this is being objective about the piece while he'll be like no It's being focused on the consistency of the piece Well, yeah, I've actually I've been like doing a little meditating since that conversation with batman because he did bring Up some interesting points, uh, though. I'll give me a moment here Let me change my profile picture because I have it as currently this cute little snake thing and I like the cute little snake I do but like for branding purposes I feel like I should probably have my phoenix up. Uh, if I can just find where the fuck I put that damn thing reviews Now can I can I ask you something phoenix? Oh, yes, please ask and understand that no comment is a perfectly acceptable answer What percentage do you give it that there is some calm on that chessboard? Um, well, I will say this fat man's a furry Oh 100% No, that that is not a board it is pure calm. Oh, no I I make that as a jest making it is but I make that mostly suggests I I don't like the I don't like tearing people down unless they have like personally attacked me and I get why you guys have such Well, jimmy willik is my friend. I I'm I'm glad that he hasn't personally attacked you he seems to think that I'm the one who's instigated on twitter despite the fact that he had like a whole Cavalcade of criticisms for me that are very character based as well not even content based That's like that's why I I'm happy with like if someone's like, yeah, he's probably coming to chessboard. I'd be like, uh, that's a funny I wouldn't I wouldn't care that is. Oh, yeah, I can get over it But it also means that I'm happy to make fun of him too and his cum chessboard Uh, just keep talking Talking talking talking talking a little more much louder How about no more? My game is at max. Wow No, just down it out. Wait one minute. One minute. I have to go beyond just lean into your microphone. I plugged in my nice mic for this Yeah, oh And I might not be Oh, there you go, but now you're a little blown out. Turn it down a little bit It is registering the wrong microphone Okay Hey, perfect. All right. Good. There we go. Oh, yeah, that's way better. That is way better I have a uh, I have a my nice microphone out for this um And for some reason I I plugged it in but I didn't register it should have priority. Um, yeah, so the Yeah, holy shit, um So talking with fat man about these things and the more I I I've come to understand your objective take on things Put me in the mindset of What if we more look at this more as like a science? What if we look at trying to objectively find the quality of a film as a science where it's He because he brought up the idea of well, then it's just coming consensus And that got to me thinking about how a lot of A lot of people like challenging like climate change and such should I'm not going to get into the politics of it But like there's that whole, you know, 97 percent of scientists have consensus that climate change is blah, blah, blah And that got me thinking about well science is just as divisive as as Films are but you never hear anyone in science arguing that there's subjectivity involved at least Objectivity doesn't exist We would be looked at as insane if you say something like the earth is only An oblique spheroid from a subjective perspective because it'd be like what does that mean? I know you do So basically what i'm trying to say is that um If there's no objectivity in science it starts to bring in a lot of issues like why should I care about climate change? It's subjective or something like that. We're like, oh This is a good ed well, so yeah Sounds like going to explode. You know, this sounds like you're staying alive or not not to mention the conflation between Criticizing a craft versus criticizing art. They'll be like, how can you say art is objectively or anything? And you're like, ah get away from that word get away like carpentry Isn't dependent like like uh, I've used this before but a dovetail joint and a finger joint They're very defined differently. And if someone said it's art though, I'd be like, yeah That doesn't change the fact that you can make a shitty dovetail joint by not getting the measurements properly And they'll be like the measurements are subjective. I'd be like, okay Um, well, I think is I think during that conversation fat man brought up a very good point of it is about defining your terms And though I I saw the tail end of this like I literally woke up like maybe Three hours ago and I'm still kind of groggy part of that is because I was like moving furniture all yesterday. So my body is is Murdering me. So I'm a little out of it. I'm still trying to I just copy those the benefit perspective here Like we didn't hear him say that at all and we've been saying that the whole time Maybe then that was the because okay, here's the thing we we we have a lot of conversations about this We've gone back and forth several times. There's only the most recent one and we just happened to have caught it on camera um But we brought up the idea of its perspective base where it's like you have to define What you're describing. So you're like the difference between the two joints you describe what the two different joints are what makes those two joints and then You judge what you have been presented as either one of those two joints and whether they have good quality Based upon those those definitions. I imagine Yeah, the quality will probably be reached by like say for example You could have a shitty dovetail joint where it resembles one It's just not very it's not fitting very well And then you could have something that just isn't a dovetail joint It's like those two are different degrees of bad in terms of the dovetail joint Um, and that's how you sort of break away the degree to which something is like what i'm trying to Convert this into is what we're talking about earlier is how bad a plot hole can be can differ Instead of it being is it a plot hole? Is it not a plot hole? It's like well That's one part but then talking about just how bad it is or just how much damage it deals like is different Yeah, well a good example of this and I noticed this um when I was a little kid I was watching the naked gun the very first naked gun Um, which by the way, anyone that hasn't seen it should go see it And there's probably some young people in the crowd that might not have Naked gun Leslie nelson great in the background of one scene on top of a fridge There's a slice of cheese like this big gold like triangular flock of cheese And that moves from like left to right between different cuts of the film that in a way is a plot hole But the significance of that plot hole is fucking piddling In in in comparison to the actual plot of the movie. It's completely irrelevant. It's just a minor discrepancy in the visuals of the film Um, and in fact because the film was a comedy I actually found it hilarious that the cheese was suddenly moving I thought the cheese was like alive and I thought it was like a background gag Instead of just like so it added in a way to the the actual essence of the film in some way to at least one person It's I don't know. I don't know how to describe it. I mean so, you know, you finding it pretty good Funny or something I would be like Create a comedy for example like space balls objectively The story falls apart completely in many ways But then we can come out of it in a meta sense and be like, oh, yeah, it's doing it deliberately to create laughter Which is a subjective result so, you know, if someone said like You can only guess at a subjective result. You'll never know if you can make someone laugh It's like, no, that's true, but we can have identifiers. We construct jokes We have there's a science to humor to a degree. We know We do it all eff up all the time. There's jokes. We'll all make in the hopes that's going to make people laugh. That's the idea Um Like how do you make those assumptions? Like well because we have an idea of how humor works what people expect most of us based on shock and a lot of it Um is based on subversion. So you expect a story to go one way. Oh wait, that's a dirty word. That's a dirty word Subversion to dirty word, right but if it goes so just the idea of um Just building up this really strong character and then chopping off his head immediately And he just falls over any farts or something It's funny because it's just like there's so there's so many ways to talk about why that's funny But then you can objectively state perhaps that his power level was completely ignored Um, and it doesn't make sense with who he was to be able to die that way There's a whole conversation because we're almost talking about like the nature of a comedy versus, um Running a drama and that for a lot of people that conflicts with the idea of Question if you'd treat the last Jedi as a comedy, how does it stand up objectively poorly written? But it can absolutely cause laughs. This is the problem with um Something being funny is so subjective by definition. I I can make arguments for why something made me laugh But it's not going to make you laugh necessarily Um, and a lot of people obviously would be upset by the idea because they consider it to be a very strong drama is Spider just came all the way down from my ceiling onto my my microphone. Wow That's maybe say hi Yeah, say hi He's a new co-host put him on put him on Like a way as to say Yeah, the spider might have some intricate knowledge about like the the intricate web of of objectivity what I need like Um, a magnifying glass in terms of audio Spider no just listen to the spider and say what it says ask it. What's gonna happen in the next few days It's gone now. Damn it. Oh, you didn't even know tell me anything. You didn't even reveal any secrets the fuck Wow Fake fake spider. Uh, my audio just cut out I'm in it. Um Spaceballs isn't funny How dare you spaceballs is fucking glow Spaceballs is really boring. I'll beat you up Do it Spaceballs is boring fight me And that's why I beat you up sound. I literally couldn't finish it. It was too unfunny and boring and all the cag You're an unfunny boring Yes, this is all this is all subjective, but yes, the spider is inside my microphone Hello He really wants on the show Uh, yeah, anyway, what are we talking about? I you were going to ask the spider whether or not tubin maguire is going to be the next spider man Oh, no, he's I've I've put him to safety. He's running away now. We'll go just to be clear We all want we all want the tom holland andrew garfield tubin maguire crossover to happen. Yes. Yes. Damn it. Yes Spider-man what spider-man 2 was a formative movie in my life. I I need to see that crossover There's some argument for whether or not andrew garfield It but other than yeah Okay, look I don't think andrew garfield's a bad actor. He should not be sinned for the for the sins of the uh filmmakers around him so I'd say bring him in Bring him onto e-fap Everyone would be absolutely okay with that. Um But yeah, I think it's gonna happen one day like an actor or a writer or something is going to happen The problem is the problem is you guys don't do facecam on e-fap. So it's like how do you convey his hair? We would like like like the power of his hair could describe it objectively Describe your quiff to us andrew Every follicle the the shape and curve the the exact degree of every single one he could make it his profile picture But a picture does not do justice to what should be seen with your own two eyes Well, yeah, but we can't we can never hope to behold it ourselves Unless we go through the last person that day went blind That's why the venom script was so bad I want to draw some attention here as well though the uh, as i'm sure you're aware fat man makes videos that are More than one hour and yet he's criticized me for being a long man this is a Uh in fairness to him. Um, well, I think 60 hours though Yeah, but do you see that though? He said the you know, not all of the same I tend to be more than one point did an hour sometimes even several He wouldn't know that if he nailed it Oh What what do you what do you think that was my most frustrating because he sat down and he watched your dark souls Two video he watched like video series. He watched I think he watched that entire thing and he's a big fan of um What's his face um each bomber guy Each bomber guy So I think that might have set you guys on the wrong foot Because it's sort of like you're kind of attacking an idol even though it's I don't consider that necessarily an attack So I think that might have set you guys on the wrong foot And I think that is he aware that the part of the reason I did it was because I really respect each bomber guy I'm really like him And so I felt that I think the other part is he also thinks he's petty. He thinks you're petty on twitter I think again, I feel I don't understand. How can you make that claim with what he says about me? I don't understand on twitter. I I I have I've gone on record telling him I think he's petty on twitter sometimes so in all fairness it's it's I have called him out for similar things. He has called you out for Which might just lead it to be like you guys might just be like two magnets with the same same Polar ends. Oh like a magnet with good arguments and a magnet with bad arguments I don't think you've watched any of his videos. Have you I saw part of his death note one because people want me to play that for er. I think You know the oh interesting. Uh, we'll have to see if that ever happens. That'd be interesting Because we actually we did a reaction to that death note movie and Well, it's not necessarily a good a great movie. It's a fun movie That's a bad word interesting to say from the subjective crowd that it's it's fun, but it's not great Well, yeah, no, it's all it's not a good adaptation. It's found out just not a good adaptation We acknowledge that but if you look at it as a standalone film, my voice is cracked there. I feel that was weird If you look at it from a standalone standpoint as an okay, this is just it's a similar premise Same name, but completely different continuity than anything else not trying to be the original It's an okay film. It it it has a few wonky moments in it, but it it you know point a follows Point b follows point a typically and it has some really enjoyable quirkiness to it especially like How l just has this habit of just like destroying everything in his path I don't know if you guys noticed it in the film But he just like had this habit of just throwing shit off tables and and like in the middle of a car chase I was like, well, it's too bad in the middle of a car chase. He can't knock shit off the table I say just as he runs over one of those like bus park stops He just runs right through it and I'm like, I guess that's the card equivalents of throwing shit off the table That's the thing it's like it was crazy because you know, I've seen both, you know the show and the And the movie and it's funny because this l is like so removed from the original because the original l Is like really he's really calculated and he's extremely careful And then this l is running around throwing temper tantrums breaking things using his real people It's like pulling guns on people and then just yelling at a guy in the middle of the cafe, but you're here I'm What the fuck is this person? But if you take him as his own character like if you don't if you have no connection to the original l He's a really fun character to watch and I think he maintains the consistency of batshit lunatic throughout the entirety of the thing so I It's a good film if you really didn't want to see a death note movie Hmm Well, that would be an interesting thing to maybe address one day. Maybe I'll have to watch the show and then Be able to check that video. I mean, I personally though. I have not watched the show So I have the benefit of like I only know it from its fandom So I I know some of the things and I can see where a lot of the issues are coming from with the fandom and lots of But I I'm getting off topic because I was talking about fat man's videos the big videos that he does Are the ruby reviews and that's where me him and our big group team frostbite really make our claim is the web show ruby done by rooster g Um, which is I don't know if you've seen it. Have any of you seen it? Nope. No, I saw like Two episodes and it didn't really grab Well, that's the thing is It's it's one of those films and this is this mean that fat man keeps bashing me over the head with is it's a film It's right a series filled with potential And fat man always brings up that potential does not mean good And I recognize I recognize that but so we kind of have like a Symbiotic relationship with how we handle it fat man is very much on Mahler's type of style of just going to the Into the story into the the entire season. You know every volume not seasons and just deconstructing them from the top down Just like tearing everything apart finding Where things are just falling apart completely Um, which is often very very easy the writing of the show is absolute trash. There's a few moments of brilliance very few But they're far and few between My job at least what I do on my channel if anyone's interested I take those same stories what he's torn down and I pick through the ashes and I'm like, all right This element works this element works this element works And then I try to write a coherent story around what I think Ruby should have been not not my opinion on what it should have been But what I think they were trying to convey It was my my observation of what I think they were what their goal was Versus like how far their aspirations were away from their talent So that's sort of the kind of double-ended The two-ended prong that me and fat man make up with that series But if you look at fat man's ruby reviews very much in your vein where he just Pulls the thread and just keeps on pulling That's a good analogy Yeah, and um, that's where I get so frustrated with him. It's just I I I I don't get it. I don't get how he could uh, hate you It sounds like he's got a subjective bias preventing him from being objective about what I'm trying to perform because The problem is shot at h bomb okay Saying that to his face is just like that doesn't compute No, it It might be true. I'm not saying it is true. I'm just going on my own speculation on the matter Uh from my talks with him um, because again, I don't like putting words in his mouth. I I hate or Trying to say what he said. I don't like quoting I uh, I practiced like there's a little bit of law. I know I do not like hearsay hearsay is terrible to me, uh but I'm trying to tell him to his face that I think you're being Biased towards not liking him Just ends with dismissal and I think that happens with a lot of people if you try to tell them Hey, I think you're not giving this a fair shake. You're going to be like no, I am giving it a fair shake. Fuck you Um, I think there's a lot of people that just kind of need jerk in that reaction That's my observation on it. I don't I've worried about my clarifications Yeah, um, I mean It looks to be that Yes, you'll make his video. I don't know if he's going through with that or not We'll cover it and then you'll be welcome to come on if he wants to He's already he's already welcome to come on though pretty much. Yeah Yeah, believe me his video won't be worthwhile because it's probably going to be a bunch of stuff that would have been improved If he had talked to me first Or watched the fucking videos I'm really bad at how to shape about that Yeah, does he watch cadel but assume that's my bait content? This says nothing man Maybe he likes cadel Yeah What's cadel? Oh my goodness. You don't know what cadel is. So you are uncultured Okay, look, I I there's a lot of content that's simply with your channel, man I'm still getting through the rest of the e-fabs. I'm like on e-fap 25 Admittedly I watched like from like 45 Up until no, sorry, I watched how did you how did you find the podcast? How I found it through your channel because I found you first. I don't know how I found you I think it was because it was during the initial uh last Jedi blitz that everyone was turning into the film and There was someone else that that really tore down Just the opening scene from like a military stratagem perspective emperor penguin. You were recommended. What emperor penguin? It might have been emperor penguin. I'm not sure. I know I don't really stick close to their content but I I found your content and I binged all of that and then from the recommended I actually found You're gonna get kick out of this uh, Anderson Joseph Anderson Which I do think you guys have very similar styles So I do he does get that whole subjectivity video was Um, so I found all this content and I I binged all that I basically binged both of your contents back to back and it was a very very interesting time for me to learn about Objectivity or subjectivity and all that such Which I thought I knew about and then I didn't realize how deep the rabbit hole went Oh, it keeps going it's never ending Well, it's interesting because like if you really like the podcast, uh, then you're gonna love gadelp because Gd elb Hype that in and then it's the second episode There's only two to get all to get all of the payoffs though for gadelp, too You need what point any you have to watch up to that's like a question. Actually. I'm not sure I'm getting an auto correct for git lab I Mean if you type more than gadelp that should probably let you type it out Well, I mean me I am like is this on youtube or like yes, it's not pulling it. Okay mo. Oh, yeah Eos has just said by the way his plague tale review counters Like joseph anison's plague tale review counters his own perspective on subjectivity. Um Uh, fringy had me watch the first few minutes of that video. It's very interesting considering what he said about um subjectivity of Good old joseph. So gadelp is an acronym, right? Yes game Game developers essentials lessons book That's the one Oh, I was putting the e in the wrong place. That's probably why. Um, actually wait. I'll see you saying good lab many of Uh, I was uh, uh, get get the lib get a little good old get a little yes in old country. We call it the get a little um Um So e-fap mini it's an e-fap mini. Is that what it is or nope? No, no, no, no watching it. That's us watching it. Yeah Oh, just you just want me to see the the the actual video. I'm trying. Yeah, the thumbnail has trump in it Oh We're just not we're not just linked in. We could have just linked it by now. Yeah I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. All right. Well You should go watch that and then tweet at me what you thought of it once you finish it Uh, we'll do we'll do, uh, I say how 22 right? It's peak video essay content, okay It is what every video Is this the one that's basically just complete nonsense because I think there was something I don't know what you mean I know it's it's pure genius. It makes total sense to me. I watch video essays and I wouldn't There are like several intertwining narratives in this because I think I started watching this because I actually had like like It started me at the 135 mark. I think I started watching this and I'm like, this is pure insanity And I had other things to take care of so I may not finish it, but I'll go watch this Uh, I when I get out of here, um, wait, I was gonna say is there anything else you wanted to talk about? Um um I'm not super sure. Um I mean, I would love to come back on but that's my own, you know, narcissism speaking. I don't want to assume anything Uh, you should probably you we could probably have him on when we respond to uh, fatty boys, uh Oh, yeah, you totally totally I would make this video. I will have you on as a guest if you'd like Yeah, I would appreciate that because I would try to be because I I kind of feel like fat men would be He does complain like you bring people on your show and then you gang up on him or a gang up on them And I've seen that once or twice, but like unintentionally It just happens when you're in a bigger group that you like all start talking over each other Yeah, that's the thing. It's like it's it's not like we summon more numbers or anything like that That's just the the main three hosts are mauler wolf and regs. So it's like, yeah, there's gonna be three people You can't expect them to just step out every time there's a debate. I mean come on. That's not fair Besides so I think if you're arguing 2 plus 2 is 4 against a bunch of people saying 2 plus 2 is 5 It doesn't matter how many there are Yeah, it's true. Yeah But I you know if I were to be brought on at that same time to be as someone kind of in his corner for the For the duration of that just to kind of feel like he has more of a fighting chance if he feels outnumbered I think that would probably be conducive. It's in some ways Yeah, there you go Or at least at least trying to maybe like parse out what he's thinking and eloquent it to you guys Because that's one thing that does frustrate me about eFap is like there are people that Make argue you guys sometimes do it you guys are better at eloquating your points But there are some people that get on here and I understand what they're trying to say to you guys But they're like saying it in the most ass backward way possible And I'm like no if you just I have an english degree So I'm just like, okay If you just calm down and think about what you're saying there are easily defined terms you can use to Elegate your point. I was 15 That was one of them BS if I could just you know throw a quick plug in for my channel and Ask one question of you moller because this is an important one So first plug my channel Anyone wants to check it out Celtic Phoenix productions. I do a whole mishmash of things The most prevalence are the reactions on there. We do a lot of random things We do we're doing dr. Stone and dbz a bridge right now, which you probably just saw a bit of One of those videos But most the big draw my channel is a lot of different reviews The complete breakdown series. Please please watch the complete breakdown series. I put a lot of time and effort into those And uh Yeah, and my ruby videos. Those are my biggest draws So if you guys are interested in that, please check out Celtic Phoenix productions Uh, and now moller I am currently in league with a friend of mine writing in a bridge for Godzilla 2014 And there is a very small part That I wanted to have with both you and fat man to kind of poke fun at this whole situation Fat man has agreed Would you be up for that? It's very small. It would not take very long to record. I promise you that So you want to record like dialogue? Yes, just very brief. Uh, there's probably going to be 15 lines. So the script's not finished yet But when it is I will let you know Uh, I mean, I'll say tacitly. Yes. It just depends on what it is right because like a lot if I agreed that you had to be Read out. I'm an idiot. I'm so stupid. I'd be like, no, no, no, no, no It's literally it's just a complete lampoon on the fact that You're both kind of like on the polar side of the argument. It's just you two bitching at each other It's great. All right. Well, I'll say yes for now then. Yeah, yes. Yes. Yes. I'm fine with that. I just want to Oh, this is this has been a surprise of a day. So But he's had fun. So, yes I have fun. I'm sorry. I've been so giddy. I'm normally a little more relaxed. I'm just nervous because yeah, it's all good, man Yeah, all right. Thank you for having me on guys. Uh, it has been a pleasure and I hope to talk with you guys again Good times. See you next time. Yeah, thanks. Thanks on the flip side And Then there was full I can count that far. Can we get seamanman all next? Wait, who's seamanman? Jess Covenman, um So, yeah, anyway, I guess we'll have to see how that goes with with fat man and the and the progress of whatever is happening there exactly um I wish him all the best Well, have you updated the stream title, by the way? No, no, I'll do it once it gets on moolah. I'm doing it right now What am I crazy? Oh, jay, it's gonna be live for another like few hours. God forbid people miss that. Oh, no Calm down. It'll be on moolah I refuse. I know you refuse. I am I am I'm outraged at the lack of agreement. You're not putting down agreements On xianxio's objective. You're lifting your agreements from the table. How could you? I you don't sound very heavy-handed Um, so I want to bring up something pretty funny. Um Someone who's a fan of efap, I guess A screenshot is us looking at the trailer for Dear wars the new thingy And then posted it into movie circle jack saying getting mad at a two minute special look He's mostly just footage from previous films for a half an hour shake my head And then like all the comments are jumping on the fact. It's like, yeah, stupid idiot Like there's one right at the bar that says you guys are taking the bait Yeah, I thought it was funny they posted it to my subreddit like I got him It's like, yeah, it's a fun way to play with movies If more people started doing this then the the subreddit would actually be an ironic circle jack Yeah, we'd fix it. It would be fixed again. I wouldn't I wouldn't normally say this but do this It's funny. I love how someone was like that's remarkably restrained for them Um, I got sent this and I thought it was amusing. It's um, we'll watch a bit of it just because it's it's novel But um, the guy is showing his friend gadelb, but not letting him know it's nonsense Um, let me just load it up. This is I think it's just passed around discord I don't know how I found this. I just made a note to show it go from like I don't know six Believe me you wouldn't want that if you understood what it meant and that's the great bilbo baggings Once said anthem feels thin like bread spread across too much butter, but today's focus What? I've never spread my my bread across butter I ain't never spread my bread over butter in my mind. I'm picking somebody with some bread and they open up the butter But they just spread site. They just rub their bread That's what he's saying effective anthem on society the way in which it has changed our Streamlining of interface iteration or soft blanking that is a more archaic programming term And if you are one of the people who are unaware of it, then perhaps you should okay What is what these games that he's showing like these games that he's showing and then like the names of them They're not aligning Guys like like our criticisms of video essays are gonna be Normal people's approach with like gadel because they'll notice they'll actually notice all the stupid shit because it's hard not to notice And I guess I'm making a mistake here and I'm almost Baiting people into making recordings of gadel, but as if they've never heard of it before I mean, I love the idea of you recording your friend reacting to gadel Um without knowing it's not real, but as much as that's cool I have a feeling that people will want to fake it in order to have a shown on efeb So you know you don't need to fake that just have a friend Well The thing is gadel is so stupid that if in the first seconds they go this isn't real it kind of ruins it, right? It's like oh, oh, yeah, you got to hope that they because for some reason this guy made it this far Oh, this reminds me. Uh, I was uh, I wasn't a good friend of mine over the weekend and we were drinking and I I told her about what we're doing on this podcast thingy and then I showed her like The beginning of the movie about video we watched Of what she said I was like, okay, calm down. This is gonna be very fast It's like that's just like stop it I can't I don't understand what he's saying He has a large audience that very much enjoy his video. I don't know what to say I just found that very amusing Um, but yeah, I don't know. I thought that was funny Another thing that I guess we should mention on e-fap itself We covered a video from brown table called what makes good art slash film ret red A lot of great memes came out of that one Oh, the video is gone He took it down What that's very sad. Oh, so he knows then well It's either a huge coincidence Well, he's aware of e-fap. Hello brown table brown table. If you ever hear this Harassment to me. I would love for you to guess on this show and explain to me what good rat is Oh good rad unironically though I hope you didn't take it down because you felt you were Getting too many negative comments or something and that you just thought that maybe it wasn't a great video because it's It was pretty funny But um Yeah, I was sad to see that the only way to consume that video now is through us on e-fap because I don't know if anyone Downloaded it or anything, but is it down or unlisted? That's another question. I don't know the answer to I didn't have a link to the video anymore anyway, um So maybe it'll be somewhere in someone's history If someone can find the unlisted version you should download it and re-upload it as a archive of brown table And in other news TRO has unlisted his rags video. I um, I asked that he would because of He made a tweet saying like he was gonna unlist his pro jarred one because he felt like There are a couple things were inaccurate in it in terms of the full scale of the story and I was just like the rags video was Pretty bad Like there was a lot of shit in there that was not accurate and there's a lot of comments that um very heavily focused on Let's just be charitable and say Negativity towards rags and I felt like the video is a lightning rod for people who don't like rags And it's not really fair because the video is a very poor representation of let's just say rags as approach, especially Like with what quintin says Unless I'm in a I did concede on the is the quintin stuff was the worst stuff The tRO may have made mistakes, but you know, it's it's quintin's parts that are the worst But either way he agreed to unlist it which uh, thank you very much. I appreciate that Good luck to the future. Um Whatever you may endeavor with um And then this was this was made aware of I I know that you've seen this before j Of course you have because it's what is this amusing I had to show this on aren't you fair because if I didn't I'd not be doing my job correctly. Yes, let's copy So you got I don't know what this was. Do you know what subreddit this is from? Uh, I can check hang on. Um I don't know I can find the link because I think I still have this While you figure that out you got a poster says who the hell is rags and why do all this game Why do all of this gamers Yeah, I think that's something meaningful to say about social issues And then there's a response that says best known for his response to I hate everything and being a co-worker of cinemasin Slash j axi The fuck up is that he's not a co-worker. He works under cinemas. He is being managed by j axi. I manage him Yeah, he is my underling, but I love the idea that that's how rags is known I know you did show your rags rags is claimed to fame is knowing me Also, wait, what would you say about I I said you showed me this but that's wrong I saw it on twitter and I tweeted below it and I was asking jay if he's still hiring Um, but yeah, since it says stupid throwbot, there's a good chance this could be like a troll But I like to believe it's real believe that it's a troll, but You know anything could be real on the internet. I wanted to be real. That's all that matters But yeah, and then there's a few more things we could do. I had a whole Long article thing to look through. I had a video to potentially cover And then I had a whole section of memes We're not gonna be able to do any of that. I'm gonna skip right over to super chats because We're four and a half hours already nearly so our time flies The fat man video and the hello video ones man is on r slash enlightened centrism enlightened centrism. All right If there was one way to describe rags Let me find the full post here it is Do you feel yeah? I think people are putting rags in there because he's like i'm a centrist I mean, I kind of remember if that's what rags claims I the thing the thing they're showing is him like disavowing loads of different extremist ideologies Oh, okay So like he disavows everything authoritarian Um So he's the elis Santifa Nazism Wow and the title says boogie is often talked about but what about rags? I guess is boogie a hashtag enlightened centrist. Oh, I think he claims to be a centrist. I think He's been he's been getting into trouble lately. I think he's back on twitter now though Good ol boogie. I hope he's finding whatever piece he can find You know about the latest quote from him, right jay? No, I don't pay attention to him. Um well He really doesn't like it The internet trolls trying to ruin people's lives, right? Oh, they they relish the idea of cancelling and ruining people's lives Which is understandable a fair thing not to like yeah, um And he goes on to say that these people are like the worst. They're like soulless They're like terrible because they just fucked up and blah blah and then you move he's he's clearly upset and he moves on to say that they're worse than nazi's and rapists because At least nazi's and rapists believe in something There we go, what do rapists believe in rape? I Believe what do they believe in seriously? What is that? What is that called belief? Um, I want to put my dick in this I don't know what he regrets saying it. So I would regret saying that as well. Yes. Um Not something One would like to to have Be a thing that's that's connected to them forever Um, but yeah, he got he basically got challenged on that and um He would left twitter for a week. I think or left the internet for a week. I agree that he got challenged Yeah, you know some people weird people, I guess, uh, they're like that's a that's a strange thing to say And it just didn't look great. It didn't look great. That's there you go That's my controversial heart take on that whole situation Oh boy, but it is Wonderful stuff regardless He has such a long history of Saying such crazy-ish things that that are just like we stop please That's a lot of words for a person of weight Gets winded more are you not allowed to say as much if you're a fat man? No All right. Well either way I'm going to start trying to read sewage ads and I can't tell exactly where I left off Or where I was cut off from The last episode would never be the end if I remember currently Trying to find because I end on saying something weird about Like jay and rags. Don't I I'm trying to find Yeah, but that could be like any number of things you're saying that is true. Um Good way to do this. I'm gonna I'm gonna draw it back to to a while and just See if there's any I recognize less. All right Um All right, I'll start with this one. I want to be the last one to super chat That's a pretty good place to go from a lot of these. I'm gonna say them and you're gonna be sitting there like What is that a super chat? I'll be like, yeah, it is so no Too bad Well, the no was in response to the last the person wanting to be the last person Well, yeah, no that does make sense. Yeah, um if someone says high rags one more time. I swear Yeah Probably efab 51 by now, but hello everyone. Hey Hi Well, I hope people stop sending super chats so you can go to sleep. Oh wait, sorry. I get it That's a funny meme. Um, are we still in the middle or is this the end? I get it because the middle is better. It was still the middle until it ended What was the epilogue? Everyone stops sending super chats. I'm serious. Stop it That was three super chats in a row Um, I'm not writing a book. I'm writing a musical based on dragon ball. All right What was rags his book? So rags was memeing Well, the meme is the wolf has books people say hey, well rags love the books And then rags releases a video and like hey, I'm all I love the released video And then some people got assumed that rags was actually releasing a book They were like, what's the name of the book and we're gonna buy it. I was like, no rags is a dry book I'm ashamed to admit that I was one of those people in this Well, yeah, because it's very believable if you just if I just rattle it out So I have a book people be like, oh, shit. Do you like, oh well, no, it's me But it's hard to tell the difference sometimes, you know Uh, yes Mola, you make me produce happy milk Oh Oh, let's just board EFAP reads mundane mad terrible internet book. I um, I think people did request that we read his advice on how to become successful in social media is I mean That book must be full of such wonderful Golden nuggets. I don't I don't know It could be fun This is how a long man becomes an old man reading super chats. Go get some sleep. Anyway guys, you're all massive heroes for going the distance Oh, thank you Um, also an over and under is basically a double barrel shotgun where the barrels sit on top of each other instead of side by side Oh, we did. Yeah, we were talking about, um Shotguns, I remember that's interesting Now why are you guys still streaming EFAP 51 is coming out? Uh, it's out Also, what did you say Jay? No, it was me. I was Um, I got lost a little bit there, uh about About gun there being double barrel shotguns top at the top instead of I thought there I thought there already were shotguns that were like top instead of sideways is or is that not the argument? Yeah, no, they're saying the over and under shotguns are the ones that have barrels that go above and below instead of side by side I believe you have one of the the olympia. It's the gun you have is default in black ops zombies Yep, I think so. Hmm. Uh, can you guys last this long in everything you do? I don't think so And then there's one that says That's probably a reference to the hours any tips for writers wanting to do audio clips of his short stories I don't know how to answer that question Tips for a writer wanting to do audio clips of his short stories You mean in in the process of recording them? Tips for a writer I guess, um, I don't know if they're asking for tips on recording them or tips on writing them and, um The way People say a sub and diva'd sub and goliath. Um, yeah, I don't know when it comes to recording That one takes severe practice and I guess the same applies to writing as well I don't really have advice for short stories or um the recording of them. That's any specific beyond Practice makes perfect keep trying that whole spiel Use this to buy a republic commander on gog. I'm pretty sure I have that on steam Think is it on steam if it's on steam. I have it What what what game no one's ever really got the rise of shrek Uh republic commando Oh, that's on steam. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I have it I don't I played it Also, I just saw a friend of from the efab website Just said last super chat started with a massive not efab massive With a link to the missing minutes Well, that was the one that was the last one that was read apparently yes Are they 100 sure Like I said, I could have sworn the last one I read that gets cut off in the latest episode was me saying something about jane rags I mean, he gave a link Why not put the last episode in the watch together and skip to the end of it? Oh, was it recorded? apparently Wow Oh, that's cool. Yeah, I guess it makes sense. I should have thought that someone might have been recording it live um I mean as long as I'm on point right now with what I'm doing I don't really mind continuing with the ones that currently reading out, you know Yeah, no, I just want to throw that along Thank you obviously for that. Yes. Yes uh Hello my malodorous leg joint tumors campier baggins that's um I don't know if that's something campier would say. I mean But I I think I know what you you're referencing Uh Watch watchman if you're too lazy to read the comic. I've seen watchman I do want to read the comic though because everyone said well Anyone who you talk to the comic is the worst thing and the best thing. No, it's better Yeah, most people say it's better a couple people still say that the adaptation is strong, but most I've heard say it's not faithful No, it's really not faithful. Oh That's just your opinion. I've read something I get to I get to be an authority. Yes um, just like like uh hitchhiker's guide of the galaxy H.R. Geiger's guide to the galaxy Hoople dople Slotty buttfast. I wouldn't want to go with H.R. Geiger's guide to the galaxy. It's gonna be a creepy sexual book Yeah At least you believe something I'm I'm so proud of this toxic brood also high rags Dude, you need someone else to say I was going to say I was waiting for someone else to do it Okay, hi stream Hello Hello, I'd say a soka for the sex question. Is that odd? I don't remember the sex question but the sex question was If you could have sex with anyone in the star wars universe, so who would it be? I think Oh Palpatine wouldn't everyone's answer be palpatine I mean mine would be Who is better superman superhero movie or captain marvel? Oh, I remember reading that one. I'm pretty sure and I said that it had to be superhero movie because like nothing is worse than captain marvel that's a fairer Molo when the superchats for the 50th are done. Could you tell us how much money was donated for the whole stream? I'm genuinely curious I'd have to check and That means I have to go through all the bullshit with the Stupid jumping between analytics right now. Have you figured out how to make that permanent yet jail? You still have to fiddle with it. No, literally when I want to search for a keyword in my comments It takes me to the new one. Yeah, I it's frustrating the hell and I don't want to use the new one without the fucking search New one sucks. Why do they keep force? It's not even complete yet. There's so many features that are missing And then I get the sinking feeling that they're not going to be put in. Yeah, they'll be like, hey, you don't need them Fuck off I mean, I just started I just started fiddle around with that shit and I was just confused that I'm using a beta thing Like immediately it's like you're using a basic thing Yeah, don't get used to the old system now. They're gonna take it away from you in a few I haven't I don't even know the old one I'm just confused that I'm using something that says beta all the time. It's like, don't give me a beta Yeah, I kind of like the idea. You're like, hasn't you two been around for like 11 years or Exactly. It's like what? The one good part of it, actually there are two good parts of it. It's pretty good at telling you about your revenue and the little thing at the On the dashboard where it tells you how your video is That's good. No, they're definitely good parts to it shit the rest of the shit the comments page feels worse the And you get neon or geeky from clownfish tv on we're open to all guests pretty much I don't know who they are, but if they're interested we could sort something out get trek on Uh Read tokens on fairy stories It'll make you hate game of thrones ending even more with d&d's pretentious meta crap about stories Especially since martin is in my opinion the anti-tolkin Fair enough um I made it for the end take my shackles. Thank you. I hate jay also. Hi jay Hi Thank you all my neighbors Y'all need to go to sleep What's my name part four or we kill jay we would have done that anyway though Too short. I reserved lifelog holidays in Siberia for riot. Okay 50 hours. That's it. Are you fucking kidding me? Oh, I'm sorry Cracking a cold one for the end to be proud efappers activate maximum over long you massives We're getting towards that one Massive thanks to you all for efap 50 praise dawn also high rag Hello Raising a glass of rhino milk to the massive king congrats on 50 faps smaller Battery on 1% yeet If Phasma is referenced in episode nine is she still technically in it if she doesn't respawn isn't it inconsistent as fuck? But get anyway guys. Hi all my neighbors Uh, she she if I'm sure they will bed should her baby. They might have a throwaway line, but pretty sure she's not in it I remember gwenland christie is not in it. I don't know. She should respawn though. She's done it twice no once No ones. Yeah, she's respawned once Because we we were supposed to be in the trash compacted when the entire space station exploded. So Wait People who don't watch efapp for multiple days need to be rolled up into a rug and thrown off a rooftop also Fuck you quintin patrick troj a and i miss jarred. No, that's zack yield, but actually what? The next one is from rah Bada bing bada boom. I like throwing people off a roofs Okay Try to be the last super chat, but probably failed at that. I love your content. You're all great Thanks for all the efaps. Here's to 50 more. Thank you. Noah Part four here we come No, no, you won't make it moa ha ha Congrats on the 50th again and good night. Keepo see kyle Last hi rags Hello, we've helped us all a lot. Here's to part four. Good night. Nice trifags. I'm last This is the last super chat first Long man bad last super chat everyone involved in this 24 hour efapp is a goddamn savage You all rock. I'm so proud of this community We still got a few left. So everybody was predicting the end well before well, not well before we go like 10 And thus concludes efap 50. Can you kick jay now? Was that christina? No, that was salad king Read by zantium stuff By zantium Mine last gay Me it's me fuck off 7-eleven and 9-eleven. This will never end lost mine lost super chat say my name Hour 29 of question mark billion lost. No, it's me. You all gay Bill you look at this shit. No, it's me. You all gay bbb lost bite bite bite lost poop pedis This is amazing. Oh, there we have done it. That's the end And I wish I couldn't make money dead easily Hey, I would I would actually say raw you made it up with the last word with bite bite bite Congratulations According to youtube. That was the last word efap 50 got Leave super chats after a stream ends. I know this to be I know that's what I mean like By the statement of youtube. He is the last one from efap 50 the rest come into the next stream then Not bad at all. So yeah, now I can begin efap 51s ones Hooray Hello long man. Glad to see you streaming games again. Sadly working today, but I look forward to watching this later also. Hi rags That was referencing an ice-dreamed shadow of the colosos That shit's a good game I remember that one's there. You were there. Hi rags. That was great Hello Hello massives. Hello. Hello. Good evening people's life is a treasure Good evening debatable I've been away for what feels like forever. Nice to catch this one live. Love all you guys. We love you to adam gardener Name say say hi to adam everyone Wow, do you just you guys just doxed him with the fuck? Oh fuck Um, let me tongue punch the fart box objectively Park box. Is that a pamba party reference? Oh, yeah, it could be Okay Damn um poop All right. Hi rags Hello Welcome back boys. First live efap since catching up on the backlog just in time to catch 50. Also hi rags Hello Glad you masters are back. Love the Game of Thrones video mohler. Jay, you're not going to like what happens to you in efap the movie Yeah, we're going to delay memes. I'm afraid but we'll get there Welcome back my toxic n words. You fill my cold heart with happy tisms torch and scorch I was rewatching episode 36 and as you were talking about game of thrones episode 5 review It hit youtube clearly the cosmic chicken was smiling on me praise be to the dawn Yeah, that that must have been deliberate and if there's any more proof required for the cosmic chicken I don't really understand more proof even memes at that point Have you been talking about making that video since efap 36? Oh, I would assume it's even earlier than that. It took a while Fucking hell Rags tell us more about how you conquered your teacher. Oh, we tried to push him on it and he didn't give us much Yeah, geode Yay I challenge you to make tlj an unbridled praise. No Not accepted. Hey jay, then he would become dishonest we can't have that Hey jay, it was cool seeing you at the mall yesterday kind of weird when you ran up and slapped my ass and called me cream Daddy sheave though Oh, I don't think well, that's not weird for me. You just don't know me very well. Say, why is that weird? Yeah, it sounds like a normal greeting Sounds like you've just been living in a basement too long Sounds like you're just subjective like you are a subjective human being weird. That's what you mean. That's weird subjectively, right? No, I meant that technologically The new one i'm trying I agree technologically that's the one So that basically means it's caught between the realms of subjective and objective technicative Technicative Uh, I'm not even done me a 24 hour special yet. Here's to another 50 excellent episodes of efep. Thank you I win lannister the ultimate massive. I mean, yeah, it's pretty much in law now He's the x homo Brown tables so we can see more artificial barrier bars of screen blockage. Oh, yeah, he was uh, he did that That was great We probably will I'm pretty sure we have at least one more brown table in my in my backlog that we want to go through He's he's great. Nice. I'm not sure actually I have to check but um, yeah, brown table is great. I can't wait for him to release more videos Uh, do you know of ryan holinger? What do you think? Know that name? No come again and probably why am I even asking? I don't know ryan holinger Yeah, no I do not know that name myself or if I have ever heard it. I don't remember Uh, morning boys. Love the vid molar and all y'all stuff. Oh, yeah, I guess I should say like Hey, um, I did release a video So for those who only watch efep if there's any of you out there who are like does molar make videos I I do and I did There's a new one So be another one now until another Yeah, get just right on every time he talks theo beatbox is We need to see on the theo on more maybe as another co-host also ryan slash joseph interview thoughts That's never gonna happen and as for another co-host like I don't think that that we're gonna do like a A third co-host we we kind of intend wolf to come back one day or at least um, that would be the hope so until that time We get to have double guests Means infinite possibilities and combinations Uh, two four six eight. Hello rags Hello and kick j Hi Also, hi j Hi You're like you can't really say that to me after having said the other thing but That was a that was a layered a layered one. That was a roller coaster of a man Wait, so if I was supposed to be kicked by that point does that mean other people? Yes, other people would have had to have account for you being j unless we had a second guest here is also called j Jay long bone Hey, there you go. Ha ha pee pee poo poo much gay. You have j yoda I don't really yoda saying that but I mean that's comedy that is comedy Um Pit can yes, you're no anas So the cure no made on nola kassani see Copy and paste it into your review. Have you seen the firefly movie serenity thoughts? Yes. I like it Anyone else in it? No, I haven't I've deliberately not watched firefly because I've heard it It stops unsatisfyingly But I mean, yeah I would I would rather something watch something that I've been told stops in a satisfying way than Something I know is going to leave me wanting more Anyways got a gooey still on efab 41 hard to catch up love the game of thrones video molster If you're a sentient item of food, which one would you be? Milk no, that's not food. That's drink cheese What about cream is that in the realm between food and drink? I think you could could you drink cream? I think you could But then if you mash vegetables up enough you can eventually drink them, but Or if they're still in smaller cubes of food everything is a drink everything is a drink Someone just paid you five dollars to say j. Do you have girly peen? Oh, sorry a girly peen answer the man Yes, I keep it on my shelf Nice you take care of that girly peen brother Exactly. Thank you Missed all you massifs. Oh welcome back. Australia is as real as the season of autumn Pretty sure autumn was invented as a conspiracy to protect the volcanoes The involvement in night Yes, I'm not supposed to say that I mean, are we not supposed to say the true facts of life? Is that what you're saying? Yes Memento update all up to date apart from the start of the cosmic chicken that is on jay's channel And I won't give that massive a view also hi jay Also, there's a there's a version of that video on so Yeah, I don't know I I guess they meant not sure why I'm like, oh if you don't want to give me views You don't have to you can go and get the concert somewhere else I mean, he also said hi jay, so I'm pretty sure he's he's cool with you I'll give you a view. He'll give you several views just not one Okay unacceptable I want to make a live-action efap meme. It'll be mola wolf and rags having a sword fight versus someone. I need to know who you will fight Um There's a lot of selection Quinten probably quintin. Yeah, that's a good choice Got a little quintin If up on my birthday perfect mola your game of thrones season eight episode five rage was simply incredible work I thank you justin Um dear efap which curse is worse? Being unable to understand or appreciate objective critique or being unable to look past objective flaws in an order to enjoy a bad movie From mr. Massive It's better to be able to look past flaws to enjoy something Because then you're happier. I was gonna say if you went from the perspective of being happier You're probably gonna prefer the latter. I mean Yeah, I'm sure most people agree that being happy is a good thing. Yep Except people who are too happy and their happiness is sadness Oh poor them They went like, you know how you fill a gauge. It goes from zero to 100. They clipped over 100 back into zero. They were like, oh How that works that's science Mola, we're at episode six rage, but seriously your episode five video was amazing. Thank you for all the hard work Also, danny kind of forgot Yeah, and episode six rage. I can't I'm not promising anything. I'm not even gonna tell you guys if I start working on it No, I'm not making anything ever. That's just nothing that I do and then I can just drop videos and you'd be like, ooh It should be much easier to do episode six. They're right because nothing happens The thing is if I tell people and wait for my stuff, they start like being like, oh, he's lying Episode six numbridled rage and it's a black screen for two hours I think they'd be happy with that. You can just fill the time with Boring boring boring boring. Fuck this. They could interpret it Metal gear solid five That's that's just that's it Okay, yeah, I agree. Is it good? It sucks, but does anyone play at that for a second? I thought yeah, he met us like oh I mean as a game mgs 5 is okay, but as a story, it's horrible like konami ruined the whole damn thing All right, I take it. I don't remember shit about the story. I take issue with that I take issue with it says jay. Do you want some girly peen? He clearly said he has some on his shelf I could always have more If you want really you still have girly peen so you you're wanting more girly peen not some girly peen They're referring to like lady boy penis. I don't know jay. It's terrifying Because I have enough. I don't I don't need more. I'm fine. Thanks Hi rags Hello Hello Hello Y'all the slow So I had a dream where you effed me. It says effed with me with my massive with your massive dong. It was a good dream overall Named our new guinea pig bilbo bagidius baggins In ifa of honor after that he almost bit my nipple off. That's natural That's just a certain dominance. You have to you have to quell that early on let it know you're in shock Um All houston productions tweet about you love that he blocked you like a coward and the lack of self-awareness with his dying such inconsistent channel Just in there are like no youtubers that won't take a shot at me on twitter And they think for some reason that if i'm blocked i won't see it or he'd be able to respond to it All I have to do is quote When I saw that I really was Really why the fact that he blocked me you mean Because he was not even mentioning you personally and then it was like oh, I got that one blocked that legend Shut the fuck up. You're fucking cowards. Seriously. Fuck him. Whoever that is. I don't even know what it is But fuck you seriously Are they pissed off metal It's fucking Tired. I've never seen you have an emotion before Explain it man. Which one was that so we can categorize it For emotion, uh, that was happy There was sober metal the worst kind of metal How much metal exactly do you command all of it? Except the girly pea except the girly peen ones. Well, those aren't made of metal. Yeah, those are yours. Yeah, they are Okay It's an angry chairman Just because it's long doesn't mean it's long bill bogus grota wobble Have you guys heard of macabre storytelling a youtuber who's rewriting the character oxford game of thrones character since season eight? I highly recommend him I have not heard of it and I wish the best of luck to the man Um, how much rags does it have? What what are you guys? What am I supposed to do with that 79 kilograms of rags? Seven out of three. What did he say the fraction or seven out of three? That was I said that and then he repeated it He was so drunk from three beers credit for the wrong fraction Like we need to whenever if I ever get to hang out with him in real life and be like, please drink three beers He'd be like, I'm happy with one and they're like, no, no, no There was a time there was a time like the moment he was just like no one was saying anything and he just went fishy fishy fishy He I don't know. You could probably make a compilation. He was out of his mind at the end of the 50th Oh, please someone make that compilation and send it to me please PC is a ripoff of android Nailed it. Hashtag. What is this? Hashtag Jim Stirling's left tit All right Okay, I can be trending on twitter Oh Here's a joke for the potential plot leaks for episode nine. Han appears as a forced ghost Unconfused that's not how the force works Han instantly vanishes I mean if he appears he's probably just gonna like smile and there'll be some stock footage from the previous film Prepare for the worst gentlemen prepare Oh, I'm ready to laugh Oh, yeah solid recommendation for it chapter two if you haven't seen it yet go see it your massives can't Yes I intended to see it on thursday and then friday and then saturday and then not today I'm sure I'll see it probably not at all at this point As someone who has no connection to it at all, which is me should I watch those movies at all? Yeah, they're really good. I mean Well, the first one is I'll just wait until they come out and then we'll watch it by a a non-cinema Hey, jay, you live like a few if you walk like like a mile away from me. Do you want to go see it? Sure All right, you walk to my cinema Okay All right, this is my first ever super chat. What a waste Don't like it His first super chat wasn't that one. It was jim sterling's left hit. That's the same profile I mean maybe that's the one they're referring to. That wasn't a waste. What do you mean? That was beautiful Uh, hi rags Hello. Hello. Sorry. I was reading something. It was on point. Damn it Here go buy a million star destroyers With 199 Keep It probably costs a little bit more than that especially because they have what is it like 100,000 people on them or whatever Some more than that less than that. I can't remember Hello guys. Mola. How you pronounce the latin part in my name is E-du-lon-a De-vac-que-de-vac-que Mark E-du-lon-a-de-vac-que Mark E-du-lon-a-de-vac-que. Okay Also, would you guys uh, who would you guys throw off a building? Raw Uh bad in the form of a man When he dies from the fall we no longer have bad. Oh, that's genius Damn De-vac-que-de-vac-que. I don't know what that means Thing in chat. De-vac-vac. What do you guys reckon you guys know latin? Uh, I don't I don't speak dead languages De-varnit. All right Jay shag mary kill mola metal rags Yes Uh shag Metal kill maul of mary rags What the f- What did I say killed me? Why did you kill me? I have to kill someone I was about to say you're not sorry because you you did it You did it on purpose. I hate you. Um Rags is the greatest critic because he lost his sight yet He can still see the movies spiritually and give accurate criticism. Thanks to rhino milk. Wow Is that rags back story? Yeah Sorry if this is a stupid question But I was wondering if you could explain why the higher frame rate of a game the better Yet more than 24 fps in film like the hobbit hits my brain Oh, you're gonna look for youtube videos that explain that it's a complicated subject Yeah, it's complicated as hell and I wish I could describe it Well, we could totally uh, we could totally give a shot if we were here for a long time But when there's not much point just look for youtube videos that break it down that are highly rated and you'll get your answers So the hobbit was too high frame rate though. It was 60. I believe or at least It was like 40 44 or 48 or something. It was just really weird Well, like I'll give you a short answer the reason that 60 is better on video games is because it's easier to react to Things on the screen where there's way more frames to see on the screen Plus it also affects your inputs even a little bit easier too because of 30 You're gonna have a more delayed input than you all a 60. That's the short end. That's the long and short of it But why is it bad for movies? Because we're not because you're not like putting inputs into a movie. It's not interactive. I like seeing high frame rates on movies Do you? Yes Oh, what's your reference? When I've seen high frame rates in movies. I'm like, hey, that looks smooth It looks like well with with high with high frame rate in like just watchable medium. It seems kind of like a I don't know like a like a documentary I don't know even then not even really a documentary about like a sitcom more like It's okay. Jay. Go look at youtube videos that tell you to change your opinions Oh Um, I only just finished watching the 50th. Y'all be crazy also high rags Hello Oh, hey, hello. Most people don't know what an efap is also high rags Hello, hello. Have any of you played the game tangle deep? If not, you really should it's the most fun I've had with the game in years also high rags Hello, hello. I've not heard of tangle deep. I'm afraid No, me neither Hackfraud media as a guest. Oh, yeah, we could probably do that. I wonder if you'd put on the voice or not I'm not against that. Yeah. Um, hey guys opinions on the tpp stuff with cp 2077 Excuse me I have no idea what that is when he says tpp. It's like trans-specific partnership But then he said all those other things and I'm like, uh, well cp 2077. I don't know what that is I have no clue. Um, yes Yes, yes, I agree Homosexuality isn't a mental disorder, but a genetic aberration All right, then I'd have to check what aberration means Um, who cares about the jaguars Uh, apparently hello grito Hi, I often listen to e-fab audio at work and thus miss out on the memes I looked for an e-fab meme page on facebook. It was unsuccessful. So I started one feel free to join too at e-fab posting on facebook There you go folks. Oh, we got a facebook Um, there is a meme section on the website as well Uh, the it's a shit ton of images all over there if you want to there's so much and it looks so good It's such a good good ass There is a link in the description to this place if you wish to go there. Sorry for the extremely offensive accent Do it again Oh cyberpunk 20 2077 cp, I get it Oh Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. I really am So if it gets bought by epic is tpp gonna have a place in that game or is it affecting the game? I don't know What is tpp? Grand specific partnership as despul should sit Yes, I don't know how those two relate to each other. I'm pretty sure it's Well, if it's if it's cyberpunk, I'm pretty sure it's a different acronym then Oh, okay. Yeah, I just don't know anything about cyberpunk. So sorry chat Yeah, me neither, but metal loved you game of thrones video Oh, thank you. I worked really hard on that one. Mm-hmm You should check out malice highlight video was very good No, I thought I think I did a shit job. That's terrible. Oh, man What about the tie me up? Ah, I get it because we're talking about ties Oh, there was today, right god damn it It's his original character tie fighter. Everyone loves it and it doesn't need a train to be the best Like, okay, fine. It was his original character It was the it was the tie fighters that The ugly duckling of tie fighters. Let's put it that way Um more like by fighter. Am I right? Finally an e-fap when I'm not working and have spare dollar How have you guys seen otakins tie fighter animation pre tfa? It has a badass girl character Nope, I've not seen it now. No girls can't be things Stop them before they be things Before they lay eggs That's that's what girls do, right? Yes And they don't even apologize Uh, finally getting to play allen wake. This is the one game. I've never spoiled for myself Quick it's the most bother Allen wake was uh, it was kind of interesting. I liked the concept. I like it. Um, yeah It's a vast school I guess it isn't good Yeah, it's it's decent. Um the pc port is apparently pretty good Like really good All right, team Like if you're looking for a single player experience, which we've been starved of in fucking 2019 Uh, give definitely give it a go. I'm pretty sure it's uh been marked down plenty of times I just bought a playstation 4 to play the jack trilogy For a single player experience because i'm so starved of it. You're gonna get uh death strand So what you cut out death stranding. Are you gonna get death stranding? I don't know what that is So, um, you know, Hideo Kojima of metal gear solid Hideous Kojima, that's a very Hideous Kojima The guy who did metal gear solid series Vaguely, I wouldn't be able to answer any question Okay, well he um after he left Konami He was given a studio with all the time he wanted all the money that he could need To make a project that he's always wanted to do and this fucking thing has been shrouded in mystery for years Nobody knows what this goddamn thing is And that is what's interesting about it That does sound interesting What is this really shit make the themes of the channel a statement in gadelb 3 it has been noted Uh, we need anime don smileyus dukeus 2019 bc Don smileyus dukeus See dukeus makes it sound like a poopy thing But i'm okay with this anyway Uh, yaman yosa is big massive. That's not something jaja ever said ridiculous Use very much in favor of massives. He would never disparage them Jamaican me massive grito confirmed for boomer I think you probably be okay with that. You're like, yeah, i'm a boomer Um, I feel so bad for him. It's like an alien language is being spoken to him in fairness. Yeah It's like that for anybody who doesn't know efab When's efab dictionary coming out? Um, please someone make efab dictionary. What do the memes mean? The memes may seem did you ever bloodu capture the coliseum rags? or um Hello There's just something to do with minecraft Oh, he says as the empire. Did you ever capture the coliseum, but it says bloodu And too That was my response to that question I demand the manager throws j out of efab Well, I'll talk to the manager about it. I guess Um, j what do you think about throwing j out of efab? Well, oh, that was easy. He didn't even say yes. He just left. That's pretty bad management Or is a good management weird originally meant something like fateful or something that was meant to happen Really? Their void changed the it got different Um, oh shit, uh The j guy came back. I can't really do anything about it guys. I'm sorry Yeah, what can we do? Long ago earth was filled with majestic master dons and megalodon's who led massive herds of orphans to the great beyond Until brilas and collided with the earth causing the great dawn extinction Set story and that's from a profile named mongo's big things Thank you Someone has made an eye funny account for big idiot Excellent Oh did expect to make it to efab life. Well, here you are Braggs, would you say tizm before massive? I don't know how you would answer that. I'll have to save that question I'm gonna I'm gonna say he would go massive first Really though, I don't know. I feel like that's subjective Yeah, like he would use either or depending on the I have Objective opinions. Okay. I can't be argued with Uh, did you see the video where helo grito goes to his wife's school dressed as a stormtrooper and high fives kids? No, but that sounds like it could be wholesome Yeah, it sounds wholesome. Yeah, definitely Uh, I really hope it is wholesome Jay mean some slash number of things median middle mode most Yes, yeah, obviously. Holy fuck jay take stats Yeah, I really I knew I was I know I was getting that wrong because I heard a chat immediately after that was like, no, it's all wrong. So Uh, just finish the 50th efab live stream and here you are already 60 minutes in the next eight hour event Jesus come down beep beep also high rags Hello. Hello. Also, what do you mean eight hour event? We're at five hours and it's probably gonna end in the next like one minute. I'm sure of it It won't be another three hours All right, right guys Also, yeah, well the metal has to leave at some point, right? You got work tomorrow That's a good point Oh, yeah, I have a job and responsibility. Fuck. I don't I don't even make money on youtube shit Um, what am I doing? I will maybe attempt to to read slightly faster. I'm going to increase to 1.01 speed Oh, man, okay, movie pop punk man's going short I was at movie bob. That's like it's almost not anything. Oh my god We need to try and double movie bob next time and just see what the hell happened I just leave in a little bit. I just I just hang for a bit. I need to re refresh my sleeping schedule after this weekend It's More like thank you for the shout out during eFap It was awesome to bring something to the conversation appreciate all the hours of excellent content. No problems scorn I believe I read out something he said Uh, what killed the donna sores the brie age Get it. That's from mongo's big The donna sores He's referencing a very good film. It's an excellent film Great film, yeah Hi rags Hi Opinion on chasing squirrels Squirrels very fun I'm gonna save that and hopefully ask him at some point I've collected a lot of questions for people and I never ask them when they're here You'll have to save the ones that just say hi rags too. So he has to say hello to everyone. Oh, it ends with hi mohler. Hello Young rags mohler j and metal in math class or math class Sorry, uh, when will this be of any use to us math teacher when you're all on a random eFap episode? Now shut up and bring out your textbooks. Oh Who'da thought We went to a math class together, right? Yes, obviously Has rags fully recovered from akbar's theme? They say it's running to this day Bohmemean rhapsody. Oh, Bohmemean rhapsody. I think that's actually a twitter thing as well Don't worry people who sent stuff on twitter. Um, I have been collecting Much as I can I I was a bit spicy on twitter with with with um axon. So I know it got mixed in with a bunch of uh Other stuff I all I said was got him and um, I've got so many notifications now Uh damn son Also somebody's oh, uh apparently knives out from ryan johnson's got a hundred percent from eight reviewers so far My knives out it's ryan johnson's new epic What the what's it about? It's a meta mystery. I think Okay, so I don't kind of seem like a lot of people want to a lot of people want to review of it because ryan johnson I'm like guys don't watch this stuff But I mean, I'll probably watch it out of curiosity just because when people start talking about it I'd like to know what it what it is. There's a lot of captain america's in it. You know, that's worthwhile, right? I Am managed though Um, I stood up too late and showed up too late. I'm tired. Go follow metal commander on twitch. You beautiful massives He needs the help love you guys Was that james again? It was And yeah, uh, we'll make sure to plug away before just let me know when you want to leave them We'll talk about your little little twitch channel. We will you play your little video games? Yeah, whatever. I played big video games as well. You fucking play medium video games No, they're fucking massive That sounds like big I'm watching five guys watching a guy gaming ironic It'll just right Do you guys hear how oh no? Yeah, that was just right. Uh, did you guys hear how fortnight is the worst game ever because you shoot people and build walls? Um I don't know Zimbabwe and rhinoceros milk cheese Monty python that I didn't want I don't remember that Zimbabwe and rhinoceros milk cheese. I don't know You're playing minecraft wrong patrick willams Okay, make that video like stop complaining about something to do with minecraft and then at one point say you're playing minecraft wrong What? Your big reference to Patrick Oh, that was me saying it That person Not a bad manager. You didn't even fire jay fishy fishy fishy that okay I really suggest a video called the empire was right by some massive called jim hus. He's like a smarter vision of remarkable republican He said vader saving his own son was an act of insanity I swear i've seen that and i'm pretty sure he says in it that it's a parody As far as I remember Oh, is he like trying to make the best arguments that you possibly could from that position? I swear it's I swear. I remember seeing it and being like Um, like watching it like holy shit. Is this a serious take and then seeing something that was like, oh, okay, clearly. It's not serious but I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm gonna chat said efap 100 when I'm not even in control. That's like when it's done. It's underway one month Yeah, I reckon we have to get through a couple of other episodes first all the numbers that come before I don't know. I don't know how to math or moths He's a character in mealy And in other super smash brothers Uh Hey massives, let's say I want to start watching game of thrones after what season should I stop if I don't want it to be ruined Season six is what people suggest you stop after that because um A lot of things a lot of pieces are in place to make an ending happen And you can you can just imagine it's so bad. I would possibly recommend the end of season four personally Oh, wow Preferably don't even watch the last episode of season four. Just stop at the Ninth episode and and just for even though it's kind of awkward. Just be like, yeah, that's where it ended. Okay But there's a lot of good stuff to get out of the later seasons in certain places specific places, but yeah Someone right like fan fiction for the rest of it and then intersperse the good clips from the show Posh pompous mohler is a joy more of him, please What are they referencing specifically with that? What do you reckon? um Is that is that the gadelp? Oh Fighters can tell the future, but only when water is wet Arguably long man bad is implied because subjective objectivity isn't the brightest bulb in the pack But anyways guys bill bow wagons And but anyways guys, that's a lot of memes Yeah Prediction for episode nine anakin will say it was lair who saved his soul. Half of the last trailer will be from a different dream sequence And someone will say the word star wars in the movie Oof. Oh my god. I I can believe that actually They needed to be like suicide score where they go. What are we some kind of star wars? That's not a staircase. It's a modern art piece I think I think rags achieved a lot with his uh, his blocks. I like them on a subject I'm in the chat. I'm in the chat to make this a minecraft channel See that's from mongo's big things again They get big with my crap Jay's method of stairs doesn't require building. It can be dug that way I do it all the time for quick digging and simple navigation. Yes. Thank you I wouldn't always have wood blocks 100 of the time Yes We don't need wood blocks make ladders. So you're wrong, but yes jay has been vindicated Even though i'm pretty sure he was right already Yeah, why farm cacti when you can't even milk them? Explain that plot whole jay Thoughts on hereditary. I liked it. Why are there loads of single letters in the chat right now? Why are there loads of you miss the part where people demanded this become a minecraft only stream? Yeah, apparently I'm just drifting in and out because I think I've missed a lot of stuff You miss when you fired yourself? I know I was there for that You shouldn't have been there for that if you had to get yourself away from you Wait, yes Continue, um, but yes, I liked hereditary. I thought it was cool. I liked a lot of the ways to try to be a spooky I not a huge fan of the way they did the story. I think I would like to tweak a few things, but I appreciated The method in which they attempted to scare the audience and the pretty blatant subversive thing that happens in it I was watching that with alex. We were both like whoa It was good shit Um, have any of you guys played the star wars jedi night games? I recommend them if you haven't I actually I'm not the last star wars game. I played was on the playstation It was like a brawler type side scroller. You got lightsabers. You can bounce the lasers off them and shit That was pretty gay, dude What kind of games are those a little bit? What the like side scrolling where you just run around and beat people up the jedi night games I got sure uh, I think those No Knights of the the koto ones are the rpg ones, right? Yeah, did I play koto jedi night? I don't even remember now The gameplay in koto is bad. The story is okay. That's good. I don't know. I said, okay Jay is gonna get pooped on his the gameplay is fucking awful. The way they make it hard is Put loads of bullet sponge enemies in it. It's bad. It's bad game design um Yeah, no, so I haven't played it But I know that a lot of people want me to play a lot of different star wars games I'll have to get on it eventually Hey desk bullshit Hello, I've been subscribed to you the longest out of all of efab since gmod idiot box days Yeah, what what is the series on like 10 years 11 years now? Scott. I'm old Oh, it's almost as old as efab Yeah Mola give this to him utism They donated five pounds which turns into about three pounds Which turns into about four dollars Um, I'll have to grab your PayPal from you. I can save that if you Wonderful. Thank you Oh, there we go Hi rags. Have you seen pig punch's video on you? Um, I will save that Pig punch even if he was to answer yes or no, I imagine he might elaborate Uh, hey guys wanted to ask when you guys will tackle man of steel brown table almost made a video on that as well Soon, I'm afraid all of the efab episodes are just as soon this one's the name TM. What's the name pig punch pig puncher Oh pig puncher So already I'm very upset. You shouldn't be punching pigs pigs. That's animal abuse Yeah pigs are smart People abuse pigs are people everyone always compares people to pigs. So pigs are people, right? I used to really like rags and brackets live What that's five hours. Fuck Oh That's the pig puncher guy Five hour video. Oh, I think I know that is the stream about him. Yeah What I think I remember that not that long bad. Oh my god. He's playing minecraft Ah We've come full circle Do you think you already like his video? Wow I'm gonna drop out here now. I I'm afraid it is getting pretty late Do you want to do want to talk quickly about where people can find you and what would possess them to follow you on twitch? Wow, you already told them it's on twitch But yeah, we we we streamed the things on the twitch mostly me, but uh, this this long man guy is I'm there sometimes right there. Yeah, it's funny. If you have all of your past broadcast You can actually like trace me working on the game of thrones video. Yeah, exactly Uh, yeah, you could just go over there. There's just tourism around That is a link to his twitch channel. You could also find him on youtube But mostly as youtube is just reuploads of his twitch channel for now So, yeah, but we have we have one video there that I actually made myself. Yes highlight video Um, which you should also clip out of the stream you did of it in and make it a standalone video on your twitch too So people like that On twitch or on youtube which you can do that. Okay, uh, and yeah, uh, I'm there every once in a while More often than not I'd say and we tend to do um You should look for the video of mirags him and for tear I think It's one of the streams I have a lot of views just we're basically having drinks and playing video games See there's a lot of stuff to like on there And if you like twitch and you annoyed that known on e-fap is on twitch and there you go. There's there's a tism Exactly Yeah And I well, I guess You should all actually watch the the highlights there on the youtubes. I am Yes, it worked out really well and the the reception was very good so far as well So I'm happy with that if you search for the highlights video with metal commander You'll get a nice quick Sort of blast of what you can expect from watching his streams and then decide whether or not it's worth it Yeah, very much So good I was I was completely out of the I was completely not paying attention to anything there Um, and then forgot that people might actually be having a conversation before I said something for a bad man Um, I'll let him out. I'll go though. Do you want to say anything else? No, it's all good. Um Yeah, noray then have fun. I'll catch you tomorrow probably already. See you later Next time What a gay Anyway, what are you saying about punching innocent animals? Pig puncher is the guy who did a stream. I don't know if you've seen this Uh called I fucking lost it. I can't was it gone Shit Okay, I had a tab of this. I it was open in a tab. Was it gone? Oh, I found it Um, he has a stream a seven hour stream called we abuse defend literal nazi anime and the fuck We abuse defend literal nazi anime reviewer and I think it's about yeah Oh, so we're it's very level headed take on reality I mean, I'm fairly confident. Yeah, isn't a literal nazi although Maybe he is we don't know he could have those thoughts in his brain noggin It's pronounced nazi But I think he's just he's just kind of taking it running with it because everybody just calls him that because he Dares to make nazi jokes. Oh, yeah. I think at this point. It's totally a um You know, he did one and then they were like you're one And then he was like a two and they're like, oh my god, too. You're even worse and he went three You're like, oh, oh, then he went They're just in agony. He's just kind of I don't know enough about the guy to like say he's not or he is my guess is he's not Yeah, I watch all these videos. I really I really don't think he is honestly That's how he's getting you desk bullshit. He's convincing you. He's not by being is by He is but not I like that's a dog whistle I like he left a comment on one of my videos once something like, um Like congratulations keep going. We're like a mere five Star Wars analysis videos now from indoctrinating thousands more to the nazi ideology As if that's the way where it was planned from the beginning like yeah, Star Wars analysis videos. That's the way to do it Um, I'm seriously confused about fat man falling. He does videos similar to yours more with pretty similar style and humor. It feels hypocritical Yeah Yeah Is that from uh phoenix? No us, um cool man 229. So yeah, the phoenix have the same Exact same thing. So yeah, they he saw it too I can't make the time to go on a podcast, but I can stream minecraft. Fuck. Yeah It'd be like 2010 all over again up in here unless I can guarantee that at least one of them will roll my eyes for me That was such a strange comment. I liked it though Will roll my eyes for me Um, I'm familiar with fat man falling's ruby criticism videos. I'm shocked. He doesn't like you more Well, uh, I I think the missing piece of the puzzle was that h-bomber guy thing the the phoenix was talking about That to me makes a lot of sense Like he got off on the wrong foot and he's just taken it away because the the back and forth we had on um twitter Ended like I said with him being like fine. You're right asshole Like okay, so why did why did this even happen? Do you want to talk to me sometimes? Yeah, maybe I will You just sort of sitting there like okay Sounds like the start of something beautiful and he like looks back on that interaction as me being the Waffle or whatever he said. I don't know it's Really important. I just I don't know I agree with all of you. I don't know why either What is your favorite snack slash sweet and would you kill for it? Oh, that is a good question because I got a bit of a sweet tooth. There's not a lot. I don't like same I got some really nice. Uh, there's a I'm in levington at the moment Um, the poshest place in the world And there's a food fair at the moment in the park Uh, and I I went down there and bought some marzipan fudge and it's like one of the nicest things I've ever tasted as a big fan of marzipan and fudge ah People are saying Vito wants me and then Vito said The new episode of the neared crew is briefly about me and moeller. Are you talking about when they say, um This guy's criticizing star wars. Is he alt right because yeah, I I love that bit Wait, what is that ironic or not? Oh, yeah, they they're joking. They're they they're commenting on that's that's a criticism we got Like people are like certain You can't tell yeah, you can Why would you criticize star wars unless you were alt right explain yourself people might say that that's the world we live in They call it cloud world I call it reasonable world I I know of someone who has said a thing vaguely similar to that just in slightly More coded language. So it sounds less insane Well, there's a gateway to er That er's a gateway to directly to hitler Hitler has youtube channel by the way Hitler's like star wars the last Jedi is very inconsistent I like I like this child is pretty good. Um, but yeah, my favorite snack or sweet. I don't know. Um I wouldn't kill for it. No, whatever it is. I wouldn't like it that much The nerd crew is red lots of media. Yes I didn't know that Oh, and this is a new one that people are referencing. I don't know Moeller, I think they meant Jeremy as for you. They said long three hour videos Also, I remember which is the problem. They weren't clear I mean, I I'm pretty up to date with red lair media stuff They've put out a Half in the bag for it. I don't know if they reference I'm wondering that but he said the newest nerd crew thing. So Um, anyway, uh, this super chat is seemingly short I used to love fat man until he started this beef with you more I actually found out about you because of that. Oh I mean, it's not even like the beef that could be over in seconds by the sounds of it. Anyway Um If you're going to be on a live stream with face cam, then why not clean your room? Also fat man falling clearly isn't fat Um, I couldn't tell I couldn't really see his face and you can have, you know, thin faces with with chungo bodies Isn't that right? Jay You did because he doesn't want to embarrass himself by answering in the negative. You know the truth Um, but yeah, I don't know if you're gonna live stream your room. You're probably gonna want to Um, put away the chess board. Let's let's just say that I'm gonna say put away the chess board thing Tidy the whole damn thing and it's like you really want to at least put on a better appearance than that and sit up straight for Um I would have figured fat man falling would like you because his reviews of ruby seemed really similar to your reviews Each one is at least one and a half hours long and breaks down the horrible writing. What the hell That's from another person. That's different from the other two. So, yeah Yeah, wow, so see I've never seen the guy's videos. So it's like, I guess I would probably look at this exact same thing at that This is a fourth different person I'm confused by fat man falling because I really like his ruby reviews, which honestly seemed to be an objective take He highlights breaks and continuity and logical inconsistency, which is bad Uh, bad to him. Sorry Uh, youtubers YouTubers hate him learn how long man did it Um, yeah seems like a lot of people having that same take then. All right. Yeah. Well, so I'm I'm gonna need to uh Watch a video of his now and just kind of See this phenomenon happen I want to see rags face so badly. Well, we had that meme from 50 where uh and some rags was That was gorgeous. It was beautiful um Have you massive seen hereditary? I we just talked about it. Nope martyrs I think we've seen that I can't remember Um any thoughts. Well, I can't remember if I've seen it and I did talk about hereditary also high rags Hello I watched the last grade. Also, what did you do outside of youtube tism's doggo things? I guess I'll um, I'll save that for mr. Raghers Oh man, he's got a lot of questions building up Val's dance in space truckers is his apex role That sounds like a really terrible Like b-movie, but hey, no, it's probably really good and he's he's actually been in a lot of those um I was just reminded of this rags. I caught a re-up with your face in it now I'm not gay or anything, but my pp felt some strange things Should I save that to make sure rags can hear it? Or should I not? I think rags would appreciate that I think you'd like to know you made a pp hard. Yeah um, especially a straight pp Screwing white diamond isn't inherently sexual I'm glad They just have a milk emoji after that as well no specification just milk White diamond milk white. Yeah, that's probably what it is. It's one emote for two stones if you will I keep going to rant about Steven universe because I I really want my chance to do that And I'm and then I remember I'm making a video about it. I'm like, no, I'll get my chance. It's okay If if anyone in the chat hates Steven universe Keep an eye on my channel Oh, sweet. I mean Hey, maybe er. I like your video. Oh, yeah, I I I'd like that show before And then they ruined it. They destroyed everything. They destroyed. I am so sorry It uh, the the last Jedi to they Oh That's the good parts like the parts that you could objectively say that's well executed the the Um, this the finale not the movie As far as objective this is subjective goes my favorite movie of all time is called ninja assassin It's about as deep as the name implies I think that sounds incredibly deep ninja assassin who knows what the themes are in that film like Be a ninja and an assassin at the same time. That's A lot of stresses that come with that and a lot of systemic limitations a lot of societal pressures That's Very very deep. Why is that pentagram fella looking like a cling on? I haven't watched star trek. I'm not a nerd Oh, watch it Oh, what are you gonna do shoot me up? Yes, okay final watch it. Jesus The sun is a star and the sun is not a star are both objective opinions the accuracy of the statement isn't what makes it objective Yes, um Yeah, I would be curious what what their argument would be for why it's not a star Um, it's typically in the qualification. You'll find if it's Subjective or objective, right unless the woods are inherent like I feel Well But yes, I pretty much agree invites uh Celtic phoenix on he seems rational from what I've seen thus far He seems seemed rational indeed as pure blood anglo-saxon Celts are gay I'm sure they would say the reverse Hello, did you do the the big in history class in school? Did you do like the Anglo-saxon kelp shit? Like just every every like few hundred years britain was invaded was that your history class? We only did like british history from like 3 000 to 1 000 years ago Just skip all over and be like, yeah a bunch of people came in did stuff. We're here now. Okay? We got invaded a lot Hello, my fellow plot hole demons of legend Oh, yeah, uh houston production referred to me as a demon of legend when it comes to plot hole nitpickery I'm a demon of legend now you jealous Yeah, a little bit just a little At mola would you mind saying for a meme? I love you. I try not to but I can't stop Yeah, that'll work What it's worth mola. I really appreciate what you do all the time and effort you put into your videos and streams Of very entertaining and inspiring from an amateur like me big. Thanks. That's from monger's big things again Thank you. It's very kind big thing Uh, you probably wouldn't consider the bec del test as an indicator of quality But determining whether a movie passes or not is objective. Yes, uh, you you make the Standard clear and then the judgment could absolutely be objective you because it's it's a isn't the bec del test based on like You have to have a woman talk to a woman in the film and you can't have them talk about a band That's the one Is that it? Yes There you go. I need to reply to something. Is there a male version called the mandal test? No, that would be a sexism. Oh, I need to reply to someone in chat. The show is not pro fascist. It's Weirdly sympathetic towards fascist characters, but it's it's very clearly against the fascism part Which is the show? Steven universe Oh Jesus the whole thing the whole thing is it like portrays every character except like a couple of ones that it's weirdly singled out It's like no, they're bad As sympathetic even if they're like the worst person ever Which can get really uncomfortable at times, but it's clearly like the things they do are bad, but they can be redeemed All they gotta do is give a little speech All they gotta do is say that the genocides they committed were wrong and then they're good I hadn't thought of it that way as As as fucked as you can say that is it's not pro fascism or even pro genocide, you know Also hi shads editor. I see you there The wall going up Use how dinos now have feathers to explain objective opinions all the scientists who before said dinos Didn't were not being subjective. They were just misinformed I mean, I'm curious what their response to be that would be I can't remember I don't know my history well enough or my archaeology history well enough to be able to explain What happened there? Was it like a mistake that scientists made? Um, but it would be interesting to explore as well as an example It took me two weeks to get through ifa 50 law. It's a shame. I couldn't catch it live Oh, well, you call this one live Um, y'all kim from sabaton put it best politics are like genitals. They're fine to have but don't whip them out in public Unless it's consensual, I guess In public though, you could be consensual in public Yeah, but the the rest of the public may not consent to that. What if they did? Well, so like the whole world is like, yeah, everybody announces simultaneously. Yes, pull out your jingle jangs I guess that would be okay What if someone out there means your eardrums by jingle jangs and then they get offended? Well, then they need to learn what words mean and I would probably question the fact that pulling out your eardrums sounds terrifying And they're like, oh, I didn't mean it that way. Like, you know, I didn't know that that word meant that I consented that then They still consented That takes you down a dangerous road. The idea. I don't know what's really fucked It's a really fucked thing to think about because like if someone says I consent to this right This may not be sex. This could be literally anything And then you that you do whatever and then they say, oh, I thought consent meant I don't want it That's a really fucked situation But I'm pretty sure the person who heard the message is not in the wrong And by pretty sure yet, they're not if someone says I consent to this and then you do the thing You've done nothing wrong. Um, because that's how consent works What about consent? Like a concert No, no, like consent if a con like like a prisoner sent something Oh So what to where? Well, no, that's irrelevant to my question Oh, what was the question sorry Don't even see you don't even listen up to Sitting here being all I go on the manager and you don't even don't even yeah, it's fucked up But my sky can't help that I own everyone here Even death bullshit really do you own his ice pack on his head? Yes. Oh, is that what that is? I mean, oh, I assumed it was like he got hit in the head You're not allowed to confirm this I was wondering that Is that why he's silent? He's like, oh god This is the age old mystery of idiot box that he can't answer it Huh? Oh, I'm sorry. I was going over something. Um say that again, please Is the thing on your head an ice pack? Yes I always thought it was just like a weird hat. Nope. It's an ice pack Sorry, I'm going over. I'm out going over somebody's work here just to make sure it's all right How dare you not pay attention to a moment of evap? I would never do that Can we get Celtic Phoenix concern face as an emote? I mean Someone wants to play with it in discord. I'm sure you wouldn't mind. Um Mueller is a silly guy. That's just silly I Well, remember I'm a silly guy who presents himself as non-silly. Oh, how neat is that? Um every time a chess piece moves one human sacrifice Every time a chess piece moves one human sacrifice. I don't even okay My little massive objectivity is mass magic. Oh It's like the kid version And they use objectivity to slay demons or something Hey guys, who would you say had the worst turn from hero to villain Daenerys Targaryen or Jared genesis? That would be Daenerys probably Daenerys I always had that kind of like inkling that Jared was a little unhinged But Daenerys is all like it was much more foreshadowed with Jared apparently Yeah, yeah big time Daenerys was you know, totally foreshadowed 100% totally, but but also not I love DS2 I love DS2 and his DLC is more than 800 hours. I have on record, but I won't defend the shit hit boxes and level design in some areas Google block shit. Um, well, yeah, that's all good. I have no problem. So would enjoy the shit out of that game, but Holy crap the hitbox is Super bad fat man falling. You can't objectively critique art Also fat man falling makes critique of ruby by breaking down the writing and showing the contradictions and missed opportunities Well, apparently he would say that's just what he specifically thinks is worth Breaking down that's how he judges it Um I'm all I just want to thank you That your gas mask has two filters and I I can't stand asymmetrical things. Oh, no problem Hello Greeders tie fighter gave me a brain seizure A brain seizure, right That one your brain specifically starts like shaking and locking up And the rest of you is like, oh man Yeah, you're you're the hospital expert here. What's a brain seizure? Why am I the hospital? How have you got to that conclusion? Uh, you told me that that one time Well, yeah, but that I told you that in confidence But you said make sure you mentioned on e-fab 51 all the way back 10 years ago Take it to like uh to say like oh, I misspoke. I didn't when I met with you when you were six years old Now, basically you said to make sure to say it on e-fab 51 Yeah, well, I never thought uh, that was a joke. That was it. Wow Are you a spider? Hello future Yes, I'm impressed But I told you that in confidence as well. So Well, I told all of this to you in non-confidence No Imagine telling a secret on e-fab and hoping it stays a secret I don't think that would work very well A couple of people are watching right now So Yeah, we trust them The main issue I see with people who hate objective analysis is that they never use qualifiers for their statements They hear a word like good and think it can only be used in a subjective opinion Yes No rags nuclear holocaust. You're wrong But wouldn't wouldn't rags say that that would support his idea that you've added a word to specify which holocaust And then when you say holocaust on its own most people assume Uh the specific one, but I don't know. I don't know what he'd say fact equals possible to prove True slash false opinion equals impossible what Fact equals possible to prove true Um false opinion equals impossible I think is what that says. Sorry. It's just a little bit formatted with Omnipotent god can't make a rock that he can't lift because that rock is impossible to exist It does not take away his omnipotence because he still has to follow laws of the universe. He's in Uh, well, that was what rags said later, right? Was that um only logically possible When god is called omnipotent it means that he has power overall that already exists and will exist because he made it all So no he can't make such a rock that but he's still omnipotent Yeah, again, I think rags did address that toward the end Uh play akbar's theme ocean man yet loads of people were requesting that while he was talking to uj Everyone wanted ocean man. I didn't I don't really understand it Like is it supposed to be something we play whenever rags is talking? Or arguing sure do it. No, we can't do it now new elevator the new elevator music Well, we have that too. I think ocean man is going to be specific to rags Uh, that's why god doesn't exist. He is instead. He is instead If a man finds a rock with infinite weight and he has infinite strength the mathematics says he can lift it Yeah, but the the requirements were too heavy to lift and Can lift anything I don't know My brain's a little bit melty so go sleep rags would god supra Would god surpass the rule of what we understand with our senses like how termites are blind so they can't tell you're standing above them What Okay, yes Um, maybe again, we're talking about it depends on which religion and who's uh, who's defining parameters and stuff is complicated Oh, hang on james more It's not caught up on steven universe. Don't catch up. Just don't don't watch it. Stop it like from here to home world That's it. Lots of good things end on cliffhangers. It's fine Seriously, don't Hi rags and everyone else, but Hello. Oh Thanks for the e-faps. I spent a whole weekend listening to your 50th e-fap. Keep up the good work. No problemo Wouldn't the plot of tfa be the qualitative qualitative data because in a poly sigh context It's like historical accounts or interviews. It's really dumb I don't even want to reopen that until I've got energy back qualitative. This is quantitative qualitative Yes, though that is qualitative. I think qualitative and qualitative or qualitative I know what it means. I just don't qualitative Qualitative quality Also, yeah, if you're hearing anything behind my voice is because I've got a fan running. Don't don't don't be too Uh, you get a lot of hate from other youtubers because of an inferiority complex I mean, maybe maybe some of them Someway, but I think a lot of them do actually consider to me to be the worst thing ever Also, you seen banshee stars the guy who played homelander good action. I have not seen banshee us Maybe seen it. Maybe not. No, I don't know what that is What is it again? banshee No, never seen it or rum is harsh j calico jack whipped rum Right, I didn't say it was like the harshest drink ever I accept that there are harder drinks than rum Hey, molla, have you considered getting an editor to help out content get content out faster? Uh, my biggest thing about it that I've said a couple places is that A lot of my video is made in the editing as in the flavor if you will of of what my videos are Um, and so if I was to have an editor, I would need them to ghost me for ages And then I'd still be like awkward about it because I'd be like, I don't know. It's not really Me putting the pieces together and it doesn't feel as much of my video But then again, it would mean I could make it faster. So it's I don't know. I'm not sure what I'm gonna do What he means to say is I'm too busy. So, um Nobody's good enough. I'm too busy to have someone help me not be No, no, I mean me. I'm too busy to do it I'm too busy to do it. You're editing for way bigger big wigs than someone like me Yeah, but you know, if I wasn't I would I would I would happily try. I'm a flu Bin mopped the breaker room on the supremacy and says that a hypothetical hyperspace tracker would be an a-class system and an All a-class system breakers are located in that room Oh as as an explanation for how he knows about the breaker, but he didn't know that the hyperspace tracker existed Um, I'd have to watch the scene again. So I've got a point coming up in my tfa series that um That's a counter-argument, but then there's a counter-argument to that as well. I just can't remember what also, um as people state as a plus The hyperspace tracking was established in rogue one as data that was being worked upon and so the idea That it was being worked on was implemented like a day after fin left. The first order is pretty hilarious Um, so you're pretty much in terrible writing territory no matter what Um, hey muller, I loved your unbridled rage of game of thrones episode five definitely worth the wait Also rags is objectively the best doggo. Hi rags Wow, how is cg and wolf gonna feel? Hey hi back Yeah, he insulted the other doggos Mulla, please do a review of the dark crystal aor. I'm afraid I have no investment in dark crystal. So um Know how it is I like to cover the things that I've got the investment to Um jay is such a massive sweetheart Oh That's awesome Remember the debate between wolf and jay pretty sure muller changed his score for the movie saying it's better than he thought it was Oh, yeah about arrival because I I probably need to watch that film again and really Focus on the whole idea that I don't even want to say because i'm probably gonna get it wrong the weird way that film works Uh, I could say it but I don't want to I feel like our time is more important than going back into that Omnipotent does not equal can do anything a car with infinite power source can't fly What I don't think Hang on. I'm giggling it. Wait a car with infinite power source can't fly Oh, it literally just means having unlimited power So why why wouldn't it be able to fly why wouldn't god be able to fly if he was uh able to also create universes and stuff So Having unlimited power. So it means like, you know, it says unlimited power not unlimited like Powers. Oh, not like a fuel source. Yeah, not like unlimited fuel I was confused. I was confused at first. I'm like, why wouldn't it be Seems like it would fly forever But I I don't think that's what the definition means by power Right, right, right. I don't think it means fuel So like the synonym is all powerful. I don't think that means oh, they got a lot of fuel Um in my college cinema class my professor made a quick aside about how the new star's movies are really bad As well as distinguishing between subjective and objective criticism really Edo All of those people didn't really do that stuff anymore because uh much more Approachable to just say everything subjective Um more. Did you see tax on epically own you? Uh your video on twitter. I did and I quote tweeted him right back because he's a wonderful Thank you for being great movie critiques and getting me away from cinema sins. They've become two sjw Especially on their podcast Jay, do you know anything about this? Yeah, they do they say loads of like dumb stuff. It's like Um where they clearly just don't know what the fuck they're talking about It's not like they don't make political statements or anything. They're just like, hey, you know, what's cool the left? Whoa Hey, that's like it's There was one it's like, uh, the one that sticks out to my in my head is one where they're like Um Oh, they they said about captain marvel like they removed a sin They like they thought oh, this is so good that we're going to take a sin off Because two women were having a conversation Oh Um, I can't remember what it's like not like the qualifier was it's about time that in the mcu two powerful women had a conversation And then to follow that up and say and people are probably going to say we're like as social justice warriors or virtue Signalers, but aren't those things basically compliments anyway? I I'm sorry. I just I have more respect for women than to congratulate them for talking to each other social justice Exactly There is there was an argument to make to be made that social justice warrior could be a compliment because it's like you fight for social justice Justice by definition is good social justice is a kind of justice or is someone who fights for that Sure by the strictest terms. Yeah, that's a compliment, right? Well, is he aware of the term connotation? Yes, um, and you know There are a lot of crazy people that you can describe On any side, but yes on that side um, who do that in a crazy way but Virtue signaling is in no way a compliment. It's literally just I'm saying this not because I Think it's a good thing to say, but because I think it will make me look good Right. Yeah. That's how I understand anyway You say it because you want points for being a good man You don't necessarily believe in the thing or even if it's like a like a writer is like, you know, like um The the example I go for is Steven Moffat who, uh, wrote Doctor Who for a while who Politically seems like he is pretty like he kind of kind of like not right-leaning, but he's certainly not left But every like every time a character was mentioned in passing. They would be gay And it just came across as like look at me. I've put gays in my show So it's like every time a character if you mentioned off-screen. It's like, oh, yeah My uncle did that him and his husband did this and it's like, oh gay It's like, you know, every time someone is mentioned in passing. Oh, they're a gay by the way like Thanks, Steven. Thanks for putting this in your show subtle. So subtle me as an algebra to myself feel really represented and helped by you occasionally putting the word gay in this You are one of the alphabet people Done done done. Do you see a a spaghetti he chapels show a chapels stand That was amazing. That was hilarious. No What is that? Dave chapels sticks in stone special and Netflix. Is that the one that starts with him walking in like a salt plane narrated by morgan freeman? No, okay, then no, but I haven't seen that either. I just saw the start of it Watch it become offended Yep Is it funny? Tolerious, it's great Is it but that's why it's not okay in my subjective opinion. It's fun. Is that good enough for you? Is it the edgy? It has several edges. I it's like a cube I'm trying to count the edges It'll like maybe roll twice or three times after maybe if I have so stops bouncing, but You got a couple edges on there that's forcing the cube to stop. That's 12 edges On a cube. Yeah, you be sure about that I'm pretty sure a cube has 12 edges like if you count like the the the corners where two sides interact I think you're right. Actually faces Let's no, it's just one edge. Just throw connected Yeah It's one big edge So he's a cube of edge there One day I'll get mohler to judge my comic with his subjectivity Perhaps It says hashtag teets and neat You have 51. I don't know what I was expecting. I don't think anyone knew what to expect from this one. This was um What one might call puritism in a good way though I know you didn't Yeah, you do know that for sure like you can prove it you could screenshot you could reveal the truth You told me like oh That's the I had a whole bunch of notes and I told you I had a whole bunch of backup plans In case we didn't make it and I got through like a quarter of the plans I thought that for it wasn't enough which seems to happen a lot with my Overshot it by like Yes, the nipple stuff is because in the 19th century men had to dig ditches And it was socially accepted to go shirtless so their wives wouldn't wash as many shirts It was a privilege and a norm born I'm pretty sure it's a titty thing I think it's a booby thing, right? Yeah, boobies are sexy, but not sure the legity of that That's the that's the high brain take of it Clean your room kibbit the frog old Repeal the 19th and arrest remain MPs are treason. Yeah, that sounds like a raw thing, but that's from zontar Virgin Celtics Chad Anglo Saxon Look your opinion there. So phoenix used the fat man to get on e-fap. I mean he kind of said that Good for him question He did good when he was here. Yeah, and he wanted to come on. He found a natural way of doing it even Guess you could say it's not natural because it was Land, but it also where I don't I'm not a Would it be a deal breaker if you met the perfect girl a 10 out of 10 in every respect except she has movibob's voice and speech patterns Oh Jesus what? You said you met the perfect girl. She's not the perfect girl What's the word except in that sentence? I don't care. I don't care There is no once you accept that That's the first part was just What's that? Oh, she's the perfect girl, but she has committed like it's a drink except it's acid That's still never mind. Anyway, he looks like adam from yms, but fat and bolding That's a way I had the last super chat of a 30 hour E-fap before the stream went down, but those objectively unlovable orphans at youtube cut it off How can I proclaim myself as king massive now? Also rags new game of thrones video was crap Rags doesn't make good game of thrones videos if you guys know Yeah, it takes you long to make and I show up and then they're like they're long They're like the big gay I couldn't pack that in the chat. So put it in our chat for the person who got who lost their super chat Oh Did I not start far enough? Have you put that in the chat? I've seen it but I don't like it That's the last minute Um, anyway I would aesthetics and art criticism be a 400 level university course if everything is subjective It's the most important class. I took as an artist. They would argue that the teacher is simply giving you their perspective That's so dumb They should give lots of perspectives. It's uh If I fuck yeah, and this is the thing the teachers I went through Half of them would agree with that statement the other half would be like that's fucking bullshit They would feel devalued in their strife towards sort of Let's just say better craft if they were told it's just what you think is better craft I want to see these people debate like Hardcore experience teachers that come to the conclusion that art is a craft that can be refined Just see how it go unbridled braze unbridled praise of breaking bad It wouldn't be against that, but I don't know how it fit into my schedule Five seasons and it's just going to be really difficult to break down Breaking bad Going on It is a good show. It's a great show. Anyone know that death note was made into a stage musical I didn't know that I did not know that we know now Uh the sad part is they're making a sequel to that awful death note movie. I guess it made Yeah Yeah, and then they also cancelled daredevil. So fuck everything finishes game of thrones unbridled rage wakes up to eat Not bad What if rose instead of the bullshit bull stuff she told fin It was by the supreme leader's order that she did it and spat in his face and called him resistance scum She was a mole all along all of her bullshit was planned sabotage thoughts Yeah, I think that if they made hair and holdo moles Would have made the film way better Like oh, thank god, we can explain so much with this That's bullshit. Do you remember kitty zero seven zero six? Of course I do Of course, I knew it was a dear friend of mine. So a bit of backstory on that He goes he goes by the pseudonym elliot. He was a he was a fellow gmod animator. He uh, he passed away of leukemia of several years back and Yeah, so did a little tribute to him and everything You know simple as that leukemia sucks Yeah, they agree there What is leukemia again? Is that a variation of like a cancer or is that something else? Yeah, it's a it's it's basically a cancer. Yeah Um on a serious note. I was revisiting some of his content for old times sake Do any of you guys have thoughts on his content? I don't know him No, they wouldn't know him. I knew he existed vaguely, but I don't know about his content Uh, please do movie bob's game of thrones video on efep Movie bob's videos are so bad Horrible Isn't that the point of efep? Yes, but like You know is there a threshold? I don't know probably not but I mean it's hard to pick a movie bob video because they're all awful We'll probably do another one eventually, but we've got to make sure we cover everyone else You know, I hate to go even one efep without tonal. How do you think it makes me feel? Losing my inspiration Um, it's just a super chat that says good rat Good stuff. What no 24 hour efep. I want my money back We did the we did the one do it already happened Technically there was no 24 hour efep Are you gonna say that it's played the story of the town? No, I'm gonna say technically it was a 30 hour efep Yeah, just about hours Well 29 and a lot Stop rounding up that's wrong They say in maths never round up I don't think that's true. They always round down because rounding down is safer Be silence because you don't disagree because you know it's true Apparently youtube won't let me send super chats for more than two dollars fix your crap susan Damn, oh, I think he's referring to the free super chat that you get per month with a uh youtube premium subscription Oh, maybe well that was said in two super chats. They were both two dollars though Oh, well, I don't know then Um, I'm glad the length for any new efep is now 24 hours. No Uh-oh, I found your channel through logic on a live stream you appeared on lol By the way, would he be able to come on again? Yes We are on we've had them on before and well it's been such a while now that we are actually interested in trying to make it happen Sooner rather than later, so we'll have to see Manager j I've recently rewatched lord of the rings, but as far as we know you've still only seen fellowship. What's your excuse? Um That that was my excuse So me not gonna give him anything really nothing. Well, I was saying I have no excuse You couldn't even fake an excuse for this poor person I Was stuck in traffic You definition of nitpick an objective flaw that doesn't interfere with immersion and or stakes Merchant is subjective. Yeah, that's subjective stakes though. That's doesn't interfere with stakes. Yeah, that would be pretty definable Yeah, I'm not opposed but I don't think you can because like Typically, if it if it then if it then interferes With the stakes in the tiniest way, then you can count it. So like yeah, I would call the disappearing knife a nitpick Because it's oh, I don't know if I Not really no no actually I'm thinking about that. I was about to say it's like the complete opposite because it saved your life Yeah I would say a nitpick is the coffee cup I'd probably say a nitpick is one of the dudes in the background doing a spin randomly It'd be like as much as you can say that's retarded. You could be like, yeah, well, maybe it was just you know if um If it if it if a guy in the background cut like does a spin randomly, right? That could be a nitpick But what if it was like in the center of the frame Uh, then and everyone it completely like Breaks the tone of the seat then it wouldn't um, and then it Like like like one of them strips naked starts dancing in the middle of the fight. We're just like Um, I could get to the stakes because it shows that there's like a slow impact situation That's an interesting conversation because subjectively we probably guarantee it would like there's nobody who's not going to notice that However, objectively what's happening in the storyline one of the wedded sade took off his clothes and started running around It's like well that doesn't necessarily affect reo kylo In any way that's bad other than they've knocked out one enemy technically because he's gone insane But then a new one arrives In that case, it doesn't necessarily do anything outside of distract them. Maybe That's a weird I mean, I I would talk more about that, but Have to be able to come to an end this stream otherwise. We don't want to do another 24 hour. Come on Never again except when we do it again Um after the successful 24 hours stream ifab moloshel from now on be known as his massiveness long man supreme right Look at a crown look at a cape The king's cape sort of they wear blokes Chad has a thing about this. Yeah My wife and I finally finished watching aquaman. It was a riot. We found the room of superhero movies. It's so bad. It's amazing agreed Would we go so far as to say it was like the room though? I don't know how to go so far as to say it's as bad as the room But it's pretty bad Yeah A death to the aliens hashtag humanity first Don't want to make it that isn't that from something Is that a reference to something I swear I've heard that in a place I guess we'll have to see if chat notice what it is Uh, congratulations. The anniversary stream is complete. What's the next step of your master plan? I'll reveal master plans. We're not generic villains that feel master No, I'm not written Um What do you guys think of the sixth sense? I saw it when I was a kid. It gave me nightmares for a while one of my favorite films Boring, um, I Haven't seen it. I liked it But I need to watch it again to give a better take because that was for a while ago that I watched it I knew a twist going in and I thought it was boring Maybe that's why j maybe that's why The thing is it would still if I had gone into that with no context I would still have thought it was boring up to the twist Ah took dinner played super mario galaxy watched what if and took a shower and still going recommendation pokemon ranger guardian signs Is an amazing game and I recommend it to everyone I have never heard of that pokemon Something what what ranger guardian signs? Yeah, I've never heard of that either I Mola in rags costume I want to give that all right Mola loves horror horror games. Yes thoughts on silent hill its adaption adaptation have any of you Well, uh, I haven't played the silent hill series at all Kind of want to know you should What if I don't what are you gonna do? I'll wine at you. Oh man, you'll you'll you'll hear so much of it But it's it's good. I mean like the the you know what it's like You know what they need to do they need to remake the first silent hill just like they did resin and evil too um Because like the game Is really rough around the edges. It's on the playstation and I feel like it could really benefit from a remake honestly Oh, wow, look at this creamy sheave in in super chats Ra, please shut up. You're so gay and have never been funny go jump off a roof What what oh my Who the super chats are arguing with each other. What do we do? We need an anti-ra someone who helps people get off roofs safely. Oh and make him woke because lulls also high rags Hello, so like someone who's like, you know um Has ladders to get people off roofs Well, I'm trying to think of like a a crazy woke take like a Taking wokeness to the so ridiculous extreme But I I can't my mind is a blank I'm just suggesting that he gets people off roofs with ladders. I think that's good enough and then as they come down. He's like um We need Get more women in films Guys like yeah, that's fine. Just get me off the scene. You can't say that's so dumb It's like it's just We've got plenty of women in film. No We need an all-women version of everything We need an all-women avengers film Also get off roof safely Uh mine was lost. I swear. I got I got fucking screwed. I'm sorry that it's just the youtube roulette if you Oh, look jade, you have girly peen. We finally made it. That's where I'm at right now All right. I swear I was lost to 50. Can you check again? So at least we're in the popular vote. Can I get some consolation milk? Oh, yeah, you can have Consolation milk. I'm just going from the way it's ordered in this this super chat selection thing Which is supposed to be chronological Thoughts on jarrod's new haircut Um bold Bold that that's a question to ask about jarrod currently. It reminds me of yandu's hair head thing Oh, it kind of works. Yeah, I see that Jared is back He is. Yeah. Oh, don't don't jay. Please say baby girl is a good girl Baby girl is a good girl Jade you like the girly peen there was two of those There were more There's some more Oh, do you have girly peen? Do you like girly peen? Do you want girly peen? Okay? That's the the trinity of girly peen. Yes Molly your game of thrones unbridled rage was worth the wait I can't support you monthly on patreon but here's some monies to keep making great vids hashtag kick jay. Oh Very kind of you especially the last bit jade you. Oh, yeah, I read that You couldn't drink my cream jay. Oh Oh, thank you Oh, I'm honored Unbridled praise of amazon's the boys when I probably would have done something like that If I didn't have so many other projects to work on honestly, I did like it quite a bit um If Darth Vader is a ripoff of robocop. Does that make george lucas a spider? Yes Also molla for a meme say hey jay as if you're getting his attention. Oh Hey jay Yeah, no i was doing it for video jay you fucked it up I don't fuck it up. I just replied Wait, yeah, the audio bite still works. What is this the the deaf and the deaf fenestration of raw The defenestration. Oh defenestration. That's a word Hang on. What does it mean? I can't remember. I swear. I've heard it before damn it jay. I rely on you for this stuff It's when you throw someone out of a window Is that really what that is? I swear to god. That's what that means I just why couldn't they put window into that way at all? Um Fenster is german for window. So maybe that's something to do with it How would you know that unless you have some thinking your heritage to germany? I lived in germany for a decade. I don't know what the link could be. How would you know this? I have never been to germany germany Uh He he pee pee poo poo jay has lots of aids go to a Lots of them, man. What the work they're putting in jars and stuff I collect them um What do you guys think of the ps4 spider-man game? I haven't played it. I loved it Okay, what what do you think is spider-man on the ps4? I've ordered it Um, I ordered it. It doesn't matter. What did you think of it? Every opinion is valid I think it's really good and I really enjoyed not playing it yet. What do you think it was one of the first games? I've 100% it in a long time um All three of the bosses had the girly peen What did you think of the story and the pacing of the story and the storytelling of the pastings of? It was mostly well paced but fell a little slow in the second act And the third act had three quarters of nothingness Or anything else? Oh, uh graphics good or bad Uh seven out of three There you go. There's your there's your subjective take on spider-man ps4 from the j I've not played the game, but it's pretty bad pretty bad I'm basing that off How I feel about the color red And spider-man has a lot of red in his suit you Pretty bad That next one's uh called called hour five of 24 Already on hour six. Okay. I'm gonna speed this up again zero 1.02 Speed have you guys seen once upon a time in hollywood? I didn't get a chance to when it was in cinema It left really quickly, but I'm gonna watch it once it's available. I suppose also know Uh bingo card on website for when you guys cover a video. Also, I gotta say I love the way metal says oh man Yeah, that's like as partially as catchphrase And the idea is that he often has bad things happen to him like once put The Thing that happens in life Like even if it's to anyone else It's rough. It's all very reliable Uh funny poo poo hee he You guys think of doing a live stream road show your holidays to each other would pay for themselves Uh Maybe down the line future one day that could be kind of cool. I guess It's a long swim to florida. Hope you're ready Hey, jay, I loved your video on now off my ass off just kidding. I don't watch your gay videos Also metal has aids yoda yoda says a lot of weird shit that I don't remember Was yoda aware of youtube? He has to be Like I think I know why now that jay's often silent and upset yoda said his videos were gay Yes, I mean I gotta be pretty sad too He can't really contend with a ghost that can shoot lightning and blow up literature Well, like I could disagree with him, but I know he's like he's watching me right now He's here and like I can tell that the little fucker will shoot me with lightning if I disagree I like the idea that's considered a very threatening and powerful thing he could do he could blow up Literature destruction the afterlife jay's fag page I must destroy I think of all the all the powers like that's not a great one. He's like Yeah, that's the limitation that they add to make him not appear is that he can only destroy literature He tried to fill the plot all it has to be books. He's like put a book on the emperor's head No, we can't make him swallow some pages That's how that's how it ends ray like slow motion throws a book and then ghost yoda is there waiting for it to like Hit kylo so he can lightning strike it Like a bomb. Yeah Please watch the tie fighter animation like a meme you guys will love it guaranteed. I think it would be awesome for memes itself actually tie fighter animation, um I mean, maybe and I don't know We kind of depends on how long it is copyright and the fact that there's a bit of an awkward element of playing someone's video and being like That was entertainment and it's like You know, I mean like we had you know, we have to like try and pause and comment I guess By the way, molla, did you see I posted to your subreddit kylo's cape Is completely CGI that was you that posted that that was me I remember being made aware of it on twitter and then I saw that someone else had posted on the Um, so so it's fully CGI. Yeah, you can see in his reflection that he's not wearing a cloak Yeah, uh So yeah, so for anybody who's still a little bit confused by what what jay is saying in the newest trailer or inside Look for the star wars movie rise of skywalker. You see ray and kylo fighting each other And kylo has a cloak on or a cape whatever as a matter and um, if you look in the reflection of the water You can see that he doesn't have one meaning that either they Literally took the thing out in post from the water reflection, which makes no sense at all Or his his cape is entirely CGI, which is so strange, but okay I'm guessing it doesn't get so that it doesn't get on the way of the choreography The fucking hell the amount of like that's gonna cost a lot of money to CGI in a full cape for the full scene I guess not as much as it would cost to teach It's escaping me. What's he called kylo ren? No, the gactor kylo ren shut up Daisy Ridley Yes Ben solo Ben Shapiro Imagine if kylo ren took off his mask and he was just Ben Shapiro I'd watch it He does have a pretty evil glare to him If your house is going out of water just sell it Just sell it sell it and move Got a fun voice Um Hello gentlemen and jay Finally caught up to your big 5-0 and I wanted to say thanks to the wonderful year of perspectives on the media We consume and all the base blessed memes Cheers to more may the rhino milk be with you. Why thank you Morgan Wait two people one person said hi wolf and the next person said hello wolf Not sure if we mentioned him at some or I I remember saying this come in and I don't think we did Um, okay Also more than congrats on the game of thrones episode five rage It got me through my flights today and much to my dismay gave me a migraine about how bad it was cheers Well, thank you. Also. Hi rags Hi May the dawn bless you all Luke the jedi are just as bad as the sith because they allowed palpatine to rise Me shows the clip and for jedi arresting palpatine when they find out he's a sith Don't have clips back then. Okay. I mean Forward then. I don't know. They don't have youtube Even though it was on record right little recordings go in the hologram be like the jedi were nice though Or at least nicer Hey, hey, jay. Do you think you could have convinced luke the jedi were okay if you were on octu? I don't think you're gonna convince luke of much I'd be like man The jedi don't like, you know Want to kill everyone though I wouldn't want him to I wouldn't want to persuade him the jedi were okay. I just like teach me the force oldman It's like you can sit here or whatever. Just let me do my thing Just teach me how to like do stuff with the force and I don't care Think the jedi are evil all he won't I won't be a jedi if that grinds your gears I can be a a judi I'll be a judi That sounds offensive in some way I want the characters to say star wars or rise of skywalker in the movie. I love when characters say the title of the movie in the movie Oh Actually, yes, okay. I'm on board with it. It'll be funny. It would be it would be like the cherry on the cake That's a great ray is like i'm falling and then luke for some reasons there and he's like you have to rise Star wars rise of skywalker They're like, oh no Can I have to say episode nine as well? Star wars episode nine rise of skywalker luke says you have to rise star wars rise of skywalker and Ray just says episode nine Uh Can I advertise my books here? I'm pk sapphire on the amazon kindle store I do erotica about clowns sheep squash and aliens Also high rags Hello If you want to read erotica about clowns and aliens You want to you want to check out pk sapphire on amazon, I guess Are they in the same room? Are they what are they in the same room the clowns and the aliens I'm gonna seem so they're fucking apparently apparently the see the sheep squash is the go-between I guess Oh, so like this pit roasting it Okay, well, I can't say I'm not uninteresting Play super star wars on snaz. I actually have those from veto as well. I have played that. I enjoyed it a lot Uh, thank you big daddy j you're beautiful Oh, you just suck at kotor j linda play I fucking don't I'm doing well at it. Oh, no, it's just bad anyway Posh mohler from efab 50. Oh chap. Oh my I have to rewatch I can't remember when I was posh in that but I'll agree with you Disclaim of the story is fine the gameplay is fine. Uh, this next one says fuck you j I wonder what part of the stream this is replying to ER is not see But he's the not see he can't he's blind Still loving j and still not watching his videos He was in the efab blessing in 51 if it was rlmj it would have had mic instead of the dawn Maybe you don't know if you don't know man. The law is never written in stone only in text Which is kind of like stone but thinner and more breakable Did you guys disagree with anything I just said, hmm Hmm My favorite snack is cynic snacks. Oh Watching efab from the start. Well, j's first appearance because why bother before that. Am I right? We'll be happening for j's efab anniversary But that's a good question. I should want to do something for that Um, I could re-release the I could release part two of the rhino You Like go back to criticizing my black path of video The second part was just rhino build appeared. I don't know Let's just meme meme the fuck out of it But people are actually gonna want me to do that now. We shouldn't have said it. Yeah. Yeah Uh, finally caught one live I have to mention this when me and my girlfriend saw the new star wars trailer We called rays double sabre as sabre prongs for how ridiculous it looks Yeah, it looks a bit ridiculous a lot of people felt that way and a lot of people like you just pick it on anything now You're just like you're so blatant. You're so bad I love that one visual edit that was posted like 20 times in the uh Oh, this was on this cord of the swiss army knife. Yeah, that was pretty That got like a bazillion posts Like more have you seen this I guess I've seen this it was important that they knew I saw it Um Brags isn't here. So don't tell him I called him a cat. Oh All right, man. Well, I had a dream you showed your face in a video Do you have a short dirty blonde hair and wear glasses? Anyways, praise dawn I do wear glasses and I think you can call my hair color dirty blonde. Yeah Clean your hair No, not like that. Jay. It's it's a different meaning. Oh shit. Oh every word only has one meaning, doesn't it? Oh, no Yeah Imagine that not only is that how it works, but it's also first come first serve the first person to declare what the word means It's in stone like fish means boot I thought you're gonna say like imagine like You use the wrong meaning no like the thing has changed and now the thing you've said is true Like he that's he that's what he held himself to he like miss speaks and he's like, um He's like what kind of vehicles can we name? Uh, I don't know like, um Like a shoe and then and then he's like, oh no And then everyone's like shocked and concerned and he's like now vehicle has to mean footwear No, then he has to go around driving a shoe I mean I'd be pretty impressed if he managed to pull that off. He could probably pat did or something A shoe you can drive you're like why What's the point? I actually have a video reference for this. It's a an animation called the magic portal and it was Part of my childhood. It's fun. Go watch the magic portal stop animation. That's good Good opinion. It's it's a cute. It's a cute animation. Oh, is it now Oh, is it I believe it's on the channel cash in eight You believe the old phrase all comedy is subjective or is there an objective way to measure it? Also? What's your favorite comedy? So like whether or not something funny is totally subjective, but there are Parameters in which you could judge the construction of a joke That's crazy. That sounds the elements of a joke like you can definitely say when there's not a joke somewhere Like that statement was definitely right. It all starts at what is a joke, I suppose That's yeah, it's complicated as well. Yeah, I'd like to think that there's uh, I think a lot of comedians would argue There's a science to comedy or at least to telling a joke I would say so. Yeah, because like You can joke about something And like a lot of a lot of jokes come from like, you know joking at tragedy But you really do have to construct the joke in a manner that is, you know, a whole lot better than just saying Isn't it hilarious that 9 11 happened? You know, you can't do that And yet that'll work for some comedians if they yeah, you can of course you can but it's just not gonna go over As well if you construct it better, you know, and some comedians do just do that That's true. You know, bob say it was a pretty good example back in the day Probably got this question already, but everyone's thoughts on the boys. Have you guys seen it? I haven't watched it yet, but I want to I just got Amazon Prime. Yeah, just you can binge it in like two days I think it would take you Jay. You'll probably like it. Um Uh best season of tv I've probably seen since Game of Thrones season four. I mean, yeah, I thought it was really good I look forward to the next season. Um, I don't know what else to say It shocked me in fun ways. I really like a lot of the characters I love what they did with the Superman knockoff if you will Um, I think there's a couple of tisms in it. There's a couple a couple here and there. It's fine I enjoyed a lot of it. I watched the series twice and then I'll probably watch it again once they get season two on the way I guess Good shit, which are the more? Yeah, what what what of it Jay? What of it? Hmm? What are you gonna do? I'm gonna write a complaint to your manager As sad as I was actually editing through the uh, both first and second watch this The reason I watched it twice was a case I'd missed it while editing and I edited I don't think that's allowed. I don't know how it works, but I still liked it Uh, which are the more tragic ending quality wise steven universe or game of thrones? Oh, I've seen what happened to game of thrones and As disappointed as I was by steven universe like can't compete with game of thrones. It like systematically destroyed everything What about tlj? What would you say? um tlj tlj versus steven universe is a difficult one actually I'm on game of thrones. So i'm guessing you're saying game of thrones is worse than both of them Yeah, game of thrones Absolutely, would you agree with that? Uh, so the interesting thing is that Game of thrones is world is thin rather than broken. I guess while tlj is broken Uh game of thrones just like pretends like the world doesn't exist and it's really annoying But they don't necessarily have like contradictive information as far as I know They broke all the characters though. Oh, absolutely, but Who'd agree tlj breaks a lot of characters? Yes Steven universe doesn't break the characters. It breaks the core premise of the show though Which game of thrones did in episode three tlj. Does it break star wars as a whole? Let's guess it's an interesting question like the point. I think I think it demolishes the characters It doesn't demolish the premise Yeah, I I would probably say it's safe to maybe assume tlj is the least damaging out of the three because it sounds like Steven universe is a bit of game of thrones going on where it's like taking down a lot of things systematically Not to say because tlj is damaged like I said the hyperspace for the force and uh, I don't know a bunch. This is kind of a really complicated conversation to have actually I would almost argue that if tlj was the movie that Empire is just back by the way Then it would be kind of equivalent because then it would have demolished both the premise of the original trilogy and a lot of the character There's bits of blame to throw it tfa rather than tlj. I guess it's not really the premise. It's the resolution it would have destroyed but like the The Steven universe finale destroys like the reason that literally all the events in the entire show happen Like that there is a character who's responsible for it and it completely like Obliterates her motivation in like every possible way You're making a video on that now. Is it or I am that's gonna that's gonna hopefully gonna be out on wednesday And then what's next for you? Is it finally ending the cinemasins? Massive it might be actually it might be that big mass. Well, it won't be the ending It will be the per not so much episode Taking too long man. Like I hate people who release like part of a series and then don't finish it That sounds like a joke And they move on to something else. Yeah Oh, look at me. I'm j. I'm more interested in this other tv show that's broken instead of continuing with this movie breakdown the fuck dude Look at that silence. He's got nothing to say I have I could make a car fly if I had infinite power I mean, I guess if you had infinite fuel you could probably do something about that engineering If you have infinite fuel Then can you you need the capacity to use the infinite fuel? Yeah, but What if you attach a whole bunch of things that rely on fuel to kaboom? Blow it up. Yes, you blow it up. It would fly for a bit. Sure Excluding the last Jedi, what are your thoughts on ryan johnson's other films such as brick the brothers bloom and lupa I've not seen brick in the blood the blue the blue. I've seen lupa And I got pissed off with lupa because it breaks its own rules significantly and I was like Assaulted and then the movie was like Stop thinking about it. You think about it. You'll be all here all day. Think good about it. And I was like, oh You're one of these movies cool And I remember people praising that line as being really self aware and I was like fuck off Well, what was the line? Basically? Have you not seen it? I have seen it. I just don't remember a line during the diner and um young bruce willis Ghost of gordon levy is like this doesn't make sense. This doesn't make sense If blah blah blah blah and then bruce willis like stops him as slams the table and he's like You fucking think about this all day. You're gonna be we're gonna be here draw maps and shit shut up Brilliant. Hold on ryan ryan being like stop thinking about it. Let me have my movie and you're like, oh great I'm on the head I remember that movie that movie has some really cool stuff in it Sure It does like okay. What do you want me to say is cool objective now? Yes So cool when he shoots himself for that bruce willis disappears So cool with the guy who's picked up the scene where the guy is losing his fingers in real time Yeah, that's a creepy scene doesn't make sense though Like that's by a certain line of logic. It's not the one used in the movie Oh, I can't be asked to go into that as well bringing up with fringy once he wakes up soon. He'll have all the energy to do He'll rip you apart with his australian uh anger, okay I can't wait Uh, also more than congrats on game of thrones episode five rage. It got me through my flight today Um I swear you've read that one out. Oh, that's a good idea. I'm downloading that You're right. I have read that one Brain nothing Hiring an editor is the same problem soviet wombal mentioned someone edits a video for you But with a slightly different style slash humor and it feels off Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at I mean, I don't know. Is this such a problem having to wait for my videos? Like I'll be around for a while guys. I'm not gonna retire anytime soon This is kind of what I wanted to do with my life. So I'll be around. You're not gonna run out of videos anytime soon Take me time And besides you can always ask me like if he's like, oh, I can't wait for his video and blah blah blah Because I want to know what he thinks about it and then you find out that I don't really care about it And you're like, oh Oh, no It'll be fine Dave Chappelle is the apex comedian amazing Yeah, he's great. He's great. He's always been great Good my new girlfriend the unbridled rages of Game of Thrones and she loved them I think I'm in for a long relationship. Good. Oh, yeah Go for it. I'm glad she enjoyed them. The eye of sauron is objectively the big gays Hey, did you get it? Got it Good good Hi Jay, this is the super chat. I promised you on discord. Also, can you use your manager powers to get rid of j Oh and with that if I add that to the to the total you've just hit 100 j so I can actually probably give that to you now Thank you Congratulations I will make a speech eventually Would you ever do an e-fap on ruby? I don't know what it is Yeah, it's a it's a long-running tv show by the roosterteeth guys It's uh, I don't think you would really like it. Is that that one where they think ruby is spelled with a w? Yeah, ruby ruby There was this, um There was this video uh by jello apocalypse. So this is basically ruby. It's pretty funny. You ought to see it Jello apocalypse the one that made the really awful. Yeah, the one this is vote vote I don't care who you vote for but vote for mine. Fucker What is that video? Oh, dude, if you don't see that one is so great He portrays all of the bad and evil political people is red and all the good ones is blue And it's like, oh, I wonder what you try to say Yeah, he like he starts it off by by like trying to sound neutral and then he's like he's Clearly got an agenda and he got a lot of shit for it. And then when he responded on twitter He's all like I got rid of all the nazis Did um, oh fuck. Why does everyone say that? A lot of people keep saying that whatever people on the sub Well, I will not see some to me anyway Oh, what's the channel? I'm thinking of extra credit Yes, that was definitely another one that did the same thing Um, and then quintin reviews did it as well. He said I don't want transphobes in my audience And the there is a point when it's right like, you know, if I was to see someone like Um, if I was to be like, you know what? I don't think we should kill gay people because they're gay And then someone was like, yeah, I think we should I was subscribing I'd be like, I'm glad that that guy's gone. If someone told you I'm not subscribing because you don't believe in killing gay people Be like wow Yeah, I would post that to twitter Like clearly there is a line at which like, you know what? I'm glad that that person is no longer here You should search out that jello apocalypse video that jay, you'll find it really fun Which what's it called? It should be vote Jello apocalypse vote and it'll be a reupload because he got rid of it. I think I really like the this is basically series And I've never seen anything else from them. Well in fairness, right? I don't know. They might do great work, but that video particularly that's all I've ever heard of them And I thought it was so funny. Well, funnily enough to link it back. Here's my favorite video from them My favorite video from them Even universe Um, oh god, I forgot jay hadn't seen lord of the rings. I take back the big daddy title. He should be kicked immediately All right jay Seems like your arc in season four is now that everyone wants you to be either dead or kicked I don't know how this happened. Yeah that I think it just evolved over time I think it was thanks to meme videos saying everyone made it out except jay Yeah I think that is actually the point I started Uh, it's a reference to the channel generation tech a star wars channel I had to meet Oh, fuck. I forgot the thing that I remember asking is that a reference to something but I can't remember life of Was about I'm sorry. Vlad. Please don't impale me Have any of you seen the dark crystal? Was like something about humans and aliens and like Uh, humans first or something. I think that was it. Oh, I'm happy with that Memory I have one of those. Um, have any of you seen dark crystal aor yet some good puppetry? Also, my camel voice is one of the skesis Uh, no, but I do actually intend to see that eventually. I think wolf is very interested in seeing But we're still going through buffing angel, which we're nearly getting close to finish now It takes ages, but it's awesome. I'm just saying I'm gonna use my influence as a youtuber to make more buffy fans Mark my words Twelve angry men with women They should do you imagine there'll be a meltdown on youtube if they made 12 angry women Because should be like angry women. Excuse me that the non-sjw or anti-sjw would be like You've remade 12 angry men with women. What the fuck? Nobody wins nobody's happy except like literally us. We're like, I want to see that sounds funny Go for it. I could work Actually, I want to see I want to see like what's the perfect balance Of something that no one would be happy with being cast as all women I think we pretty much had it right there. I think we nailed it with that one. Yeah, we already had it I don't yeah, shut up me 12 angry women and the subtitle is it's that time above At that point anti-sjw doesn't be like wait That wouldn't piss off the anti-sjw No, they they'd be like, is this a fun movie? Is this having fun? Yeah, so as funny as that subtitle is you can't use that if you if you want to make everybody mad You gotta leave it out What you want to do is you want to first do it with the 12 angry women and it's like a And then you know release it first without that tagline or like release the trailers first so the anti-sjw's get angry Then put a second trailer out with the tagline so the sjw's get angry and it's hilarious And then a third trailer that mixes both and everyone's just confused. No one knows how to feel The third trailer is like they're all trans women Everyone's looking for that first review on rotten tomatoes and it's 50 and everyone's like This could be the perfect film to not cause any controversy by causing so much controversy it all cancels out and everyone's just like I don't fucking know Wow Molo, that's a sex to It was a racism because it's about women Any chances you'll get Cecil says on eFap? I think I only met him the one time um I mean we we need to get um Anna on for a proper eFap episode first But uh, I don't really mind. Yeah, if if he wants to I believe he uh changed his mind about Game of Thrones He was okay with episode three, but then episode five happened ananama We did how that happened for a lot of people I want to see these dummies saying art is isn't objective to go to an art server and tell them that art server Oh, they're there's no doubt out there and it's just I mean like what's that referring to like a server in which art is displayed Maybe it may be a no probably like a discord where they like I would imagine that there might be a lot of art servers that would be okay with saying everything's objective almost like depends on which kind of one you enter Someone in the chat is just saying call the movie 12 angry men with women They are correct about defenestration. I'm in awe Go jay that was from mongo's big things as well Oh, thank you. Will you do an eFap movie? Will you do an eFap movies on doom annihilation? Well, good news is the Between my bigger projects. I'm now editing a bunch of eFap stuff that I had left over and I've Well, I guess I shouldn't confirm anything in case anything goes wrong But uh, the doom movie is first on the docket for me to edit and From what I've seen so far. It's gonna be a fun one I'm not sure when I release it one with rock. Yes, and I'm really happy about it being an eFap movie But um got that three Lord the Rings two eFap minis And an episode of a tv show that will eventually come out ending Things so lots of bonus content. But yes, we do want to do doom annihilation as well Because that was kind of what spirit us on to do doom so Plenty more things on the way. My favorite dr. Zeus is horton gases the hoos And apparently Yoda said that Rey is a clone luke is the emperor all along or anything they won't do Have you seen major lee's tlj rap? I have seen that major lee is such a strange content creator You really wanted you to eFap that didn't they I think he did. Yeah, um, but I just thought it was a bit too much It feels like it was just made going like oh the eFap guys are gonna really watch the shit out of this I like that he went after the phantom bed is so I was just like oh, that's not gonna work But there's literally like 20 30 of them that will present counter arguments and rip into your video Like it's they're a really part of what makes them hard to criticize is the fact that they're a unified community that want Their goal being the whole like we want star wars to be so even if you go for like their clickbait They would probably agree and then argue that it's in favor of a good cause slash trying to start careers You know, it's really tough to take on that many people at one Unless you can find a really good unifying sort of critical Uh aspect to go for I guess but major lee's video was weird like I watched them respond to it It's it's just all over the place The only counterpoint would be it's new styles is good, which it isn't so you can't Look at you say that shit Thoughts on the upcoming eisenhorn 40k tv show I don't know what that is Going from the silence. No one else does No Uh milketh the longest manneth of the toxieth broodeth Always asked permission first, but yes Who tesh any wayseth guyseth That's from two different accounts and they did the same joke. I'm impressed with different I will bring order to the galaxy. I will end star wars. You're on kylo The first order will fall and thus will be the rise of skywalker. You what you suggested is way less cringe than ours I want ours. I'm sorry. I want to be buddy bad Uh jay is hodor with rhino milk Hodor milk Yes, yeah The only ways to save episode nine is to make it super absurd and not take it seriously when pro tlj haters hate it We can say they submitted their expectation I'll be so funny if the people who love TLJ hate episode nine, which I'm guessing they actually well I have a feeling it's gonna be the most hated one because of the fact that All of the people who hated TLJ are already primed to hate it regardless and then all the people who loved TLJ Are probably gonna hate it because of the fact that it's gonna go back on a lot of things tlj's set up or did if you know I mean not set up to set up anything Did people who love tlj love force awaken? I think they typically say no. I think they would typically say Okay, so There are like there are so many camps of like People who love the original trilogy and then hate what the force awakens because it disrespects the original trilogy People who love the original trilogy and hate the last Jedi for the same reason but are fine with force awakens People love the force awakens than a tlj Because it shits all over the force awakens And now we're gonna get like loads more kinds of camps of that of like Do you think they're not even included the multiplier of who likes and dislikes the prequels? Oh, yeah I mean, do you Do you think there's that gonna be anyone who just likes episode nine because it shits on the ot specifically like What do you think the the threshold has been crossed there because of episode like there's always more Palpatine is in a dude palpatine. Oh, that's a good point. Actually people. Yeah That's absolutely gonna like turn people around who are fine with what tlj did to the ot I have to see uh, do the rhino milk pot to jay. You're a massive Goddamn it Jay has been here for so long that the rhino milk is curdled and turned into rhino cheese Oh, that sounds disgusting So I was helping this guy off a roof with my ladder when I started thinking to myself Shouldn't women get to vote twice like the obese who I love That came from an account called ar Excellent. Ah, so this is the reverse. Rah. I like it. You should You should have like the reverse take every time the other one has a Jsu was a poo poo pee pee show to begin with It was but then it got better halfway through season one So I don't disagree In the cinemas since podcast They're not looking forward to the Joker movie because they think a white guy will go shoot people afterwards thoughts Did they really have that take? Man I always see that as like a joke take and I'm like no a lot of people have that takes like White people have killed people in movies for Those everyone else we live in a society Bottom text They got rid of nazis as in not communists Oh, I get it nazis Wait, can you not put the word nazi in a super chat? Maybe not. I remember the last time I saw the word nazi in a super chat to be honest with you The hound wanted to leave for sos to become a sell sword in season four episode four He doesn't care about his brother at all and he kind of forgot about this But anyways, yeah, like I said, I stand by the fact that people were memeing Clegane bowl and then d&d were like Hey guys, if it was biblical gay, Bobby, we should like really do so that I'm okay Franzi of the writer for For westworld apparently they changed the end of season two because someone guessed it on reddit That's so dumb And I can't go look for if that's true, but I am relatively sure I read that and People going nuts reading next like the stupidest thing ever Who was the original ending guest good? Is that the well, obviously The important part is that it doesn't whether or not it was good. That's just such a stupid thing to do Anyway, there's a reason to change the reasoning to change should be that it's poorly Laughing at the latest super chat of j's like the prequels. He's dumb and poorly written But I like him. He's poorly written, but I like What do you have to say j? I'll agree Um, but yeah, that actually brings us to the end of the super chats and the end of the stream That's near seven hours I wasn't this is honest. I didn't say at the beginning because I knew there's no point in saying anymore This was supposed to be a short efab. It's gonna be like three or four hours at most And now we have to like save stuff for later. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff. I have to save a layer because Life is weird You're not allowed to do short efabs Regardless, do you guys I mean you come on the show a lot now? So I don't even know if it's worth plugging. Do you want to do you want to just hang out? I don't know what it means. J. What do you want to do? Do you want to say you have a youtube channel? Do you want to say guys? I know you hate me? Okay, I know I'll watch a lot of the ranks if you subscribe to my channel There you go. What about that? I mean all the links are in the description of people who are like actually curious It's not like a specific number of people. It's like you specifically listening you person who's like thinking oh, he's not talking about me I am talking about you realize you know subscribing is the right reason. I'm not watching one John right now listening to this and work. No, no, no, don't name them because that means That means that everyone is not called john can be like dude. There's a guy called john listening That's like easy to then then I can't manipulate people as well We've got to go specific john. I know you're in work. I know you're listening to this right now I know you know, I'm talking about you specifically No, but then if I'm being manipulative, which like clearly I am Then just to say I'm just picking out all of the gullible people are like, oh my god, that's me. I'm me you that's me They're calling you an extortionist Well, I wouldn't disagree with that And wigs big said I literally sub so you'll watch Lord of the rig You have no choice now Oof said imagine being subbed to j Sorry, you don't have oof's approval I want that approval so much then you just think see what you have to show the memes I'm gonna save them all For the next eFap and I swear to god if we don't get to have them on the next eFap They will eventually be shown it's just that I need rags to be here because if we don't have like Two out of the three hosts that constantly get referenced in them It's a little bit awkward. I want to try and at least make sure the people who made them Have them seen by the people they intended to be seen by you know, you know as you know Even though a whole bunch of them will probably reference j and he won't be here on the next one So I'll just be like hey jay watch it. Okay, and then you'll be like, uh Not right j I refuse to respond to this it's steven f his dad in an s u m o v get er on the line Oh, yeah, that felt kind of uncomfortable, but It it's not sex Like it's never been a metaphor for sex Um, are you talking about fusion? Yeah, because it totally fucking is No, it's a it's a metaphor for love, but like Yeah That sounds wonderful. It's never been it's never been sex That's never been like implied that it's literally sex It's just like oh people do this when they're in love like this is where your mind goes Okay, well then why did pearl cover, uh, steven's eyes when that's a good point I two other characters were doing a fusion Well, hang on We know how hang on but that is what pearl would do though. Like that's the way she gets But why about it's the same it's not about sex It's the same thing that drove pearl to fucking manipulate gana and defusing with her loads of times. Oh my god Like that that those are the same aspects of that character Pearl is fucking weird about fusion Seems like fusion itself is weird Pearl is weird pearl is weird is about rose and fusion and like Paul feels about fusion the way she feels about rose because she fused with Yeah, like to be honest though. I'm not really one to really criticize steven universe too much I see I've seen like some good points by yarr's videos, but like I I tried like about five episodes steven universe I nah Um, I'm impressed that you managed to make those points having seen five episodes. Yeah, not bad I've only seen yarr's videos on it and I am totally not biased whatsoever and saying that the universe sucks, right jay Yeah, it does know I can't yeah, I can't flat out say that it sucks. I'm I just I'm just not really able to say that Yeah, I don't care to say much about it because it's a weird show from what? Oh, yeah, it's weird as fuck. Yeah, but the points that say that fusion isn't sex. I'm not entirely convinced based on what I've seen so I'm sorry, but I have to agree with das. You're wrong jay Um, yeah, I'm gonna say so Uh, yeah, anyway, like the the links to these two gentlemen's channels are in chat if you actually would like to See what they're up to if you haven't already subscribed Like I said, you you guys have got quite high levels of appearances along with metal Alex and fringy. I think they're the five now the pentagon of the appearances with guests that makes sense Yeah, and They will watch steven universe but not lord of the rings. What the fuck? I was watching steven universe for a long time That's normal. I wish it like yeah, I wish it to procrastinate studying for my final exams in school Steven universe is like buffy, but you can definitely skip episodes, but I won't well. I haven't seen buffy either So I might have to now. Well one day. I'll make you The ending of steven universe He has skipped the ending there. So I don't skip to the ending skip the ending regardless Thank you for watching season four episode one. Yeah, I went there. Yeah. Yep. That's yep Um, we're doing it now where season four will go Thank you so much for the kind donations and the um the the memes and some artwork and stuff will definitely be shown next episode Possibly first depending on what guests were going on at the time I mean part of the reason why we brought on regular guests today was to do memes because new guests get very confused at all Of the rhino milk either way It's been very fun ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for watching and um, we will see you next week Hopefully on a sunday or saturday or friday depending on what's happening More information to come in time, but um, yeah, is there anything you guys want to say? Uh next week looking forward to it. That's really all I got had fun today I'm glad you guys came I'll I'll I'll just goodbye. See you guys have a good sleep. Good toodle pip cheerio Toodle pip. Bye