 I've had people who can squat 300, 400 some pounds in typical fashion fail after eight or nine body weight squats when done in a manner that increases the average lever and that manipulates the timing so more time is spent at the position where the average lever is higher. For example, basically it's the exact opposite of how most people squat. You see most people squat, it's this kind of a thing. I have people go all the way down so that tops of their thighs are just a little bit below the knees, hold this position for a few seconds. And after holding this position for a few seconds, I tell them to start so slowly that somebody watching would have a hard time telling at which point they started, almost like they're trying to sneak out of the start point and they get up to about here and I stop them, I tell them to go back down from there. Now this is about as low as most people go. This is about as high as I let them go and then back down. Now I've done this a bit so I can do it while talking and a lot of people are losing their breath at this point. This makes a huge, huge difference that pause in the bottom and that slow start. It's the exact opposite of what you see most people doing with a barbell on their back during the gym. If you do a squat in that manner, if you're focusing not on trying to make weight go up and down, but on trying to place as much of a demand as possible on those muscles, most people will not be able to use anywhere near the amount of weight that they can use for a squat in typical form. So everything Bill said about the squat, absolutely 100% correct. For most people it is a dangerous exercise for the back but that's because of the way that most people perform it. If you do it similarly to the manner that I just described, you won't be capable of using much weight. Again, I've had people who could squat three, now I'm starting to feel it, 300, 400 something pounds for reps that failed after about eight or nine of those. Again, the difference, it all comes back to when you are going through a workout, keeping the real goal in mind. And that's not just effectively stimulating improvements in the muscles that you're targeting but also doing it without wrecking your joints in the process. Yeah, I think we're right here. And his philosophies of life. I can check him out at Bay.com, that's B-A-Y-E. Let's bring on Drew Bay. All right, thanks. Glad to be here. Aspect of thinking about exercise that's important is differentiating between exercise as a stimulus rather than a producer of improvements. Exercise does not directly produce any improvements in the body. All of the improvements that happen as a result of exercise happen because your body is trying to respond to what it perceives as a negative thing, an extreme stress. That strength to be able to move that weight. Now with every repetition, you're gonna fatigue a little bit so that the amount of force you can produce gradually attempt to move it again. If you were to take a very heavy weight and lower it slowly, and as you approach the bottom, gradually slow to a stop and then very gradually begin to lift it, was what I had previously thought of as a 10 on a scale of one to 10 with intensity of effort became about a two or a three.