 Why don't we begin? So it is 7.02 Wednesday, September 22nd. Are you recording, Jack? We are recording. Okay. We are recording. All right. All right, great. So welcome to the Allington Housing Authority regular board meeting. A roll call. Metropolis. You're on mute, Nick. Here. Joanne Preston. Here. Got to lenient here. And be a relevant dealer. Here. Okay. Then let's begin. What will public petition makes this a patient guidelines. We get section already that again. So interim executive directors report, Jack. Just as a reminder, our staff are continuing to adhere to the town of Allington mass mandates. And notices are posted each development informing residents of the town's guidance related to this. In regards to the flu clinics. We're very grateful that the Allington Council on Aging conducted flu clinics at Drake Village in Winslow Towers past month. Additionally, the flu clinic schedule for Cusack Terrace and Chestnut Manor had to be canceled due to supply issues. The Council on Aging has informed us that the next flu clinic will take place on September 30th, 2021 at town hall. Notices from the Council on Aging indicating the schedule and the schedule change and location change have been posted at Chestnut Manor and Cusack Terrace. The Council on Aging has indicated that transportation will be available for those that need it. The fire pump replacement and building in full prepare project at Winslow Towers is moving, it's continuing to move along well, and we're nearing the final phase. The property manager Lynn Sullivan has continued to communicate schedule changes to residents. We hope to have a start date for the fire pump replacement project within the next week. This should not affect residents but if it does, it will be properly notified. There will be a bathroom project for Winslow Towers and Chestnut Manor community rooms is currently up to bid and the bid should be coming in, bids closed at the end of this month. The balcony resurfacing project has begun at Chestnut Manor. The property manager Katelyn Roberts has been communicating the schedule for residents as well as following up with residents that still need to clear off their balcony. I think the residents that have adhered to our guidance include their balconies and will continue to work with those that have not. We hope to have a start date for the roof replacement project at Cusack Terrace in the next week or so, and we actually will be meeting with the design team contractor in our project manager from DHCD tomorrow. We hope to have someone who is very soon. As soon as we do get confirmation related to when the project will begin the property manager cable Roberts will notify the affected residents where they can partner in the duration of the project. Katelyn and the maintenance representatives met with USAC Terrace residents this past month to discuss the project answer questions and provide detailed guidance related to that. The Creative Placemaking Committee met this past month with the DHCD and the design team to discuss the project and tour the property at Drake Village. All parties were excited about the policies about the possibilities at Drake Village, and we hope to have more news about that relate more news relate to that soon. We are very excited about the potential opera funding that the Housing Authority could receive from the town of Allington. We will continue to work with the town to ensure that our needs continue to be communicated to them as they continue through their process. We hope to have more information related to this at the October board meeting. We have scheduled a meeting with the residents of Menotomy Manor in October for them to be able to discuss capital needs in order that we can continue to engage and receive feedback. We plan to do this at all the developments throughout the course of the year we feel that this will assist us as we begin to review and formulate our capital improvement plan for next year. In regards to Verizon, we are aware of the letters that residents receive from Verizon indicating that their service wind on October 26, 2021. We have expressed our disappointment and concern related to this letter to the select board and representative Garbley's office. Also, there seems to be a misconception being perpetuated from Verizon that switching to fiber optics would be an easy fix. Before we decide to sign an agreement with Verizon, there are multiple factors that need to be considered and addressed. These concerns include but are not limited to considering the health of our residents given COVID-19 and the invasiveness involved in this project, considering the cost of this project to the Housing Authority as well as considering how how the switch from copper to fiber optic will affect our residents life alert systems and ability to connect with emergency services during a power outage. To address our concerns, we have scheduled a meeting with Verizon representatives on Tuesday, September 28. We hope that they will consider reconsider ending services on October 26. However, as a precautionary measure, we will also remind residents that RCN and Comcast provide services in our building. Additionally, this past week, there were some some issues with the with the office phone line which was not which was not related to the Verizon. Letters that went out. It was a cyber attack to the void system that we use for our internet phone to the office. Since then, our IT service has been able to correct the issue and make us more resilient in the future. But just, although it isn't, it's not an acceptable fact that they went down. It was an issue that was experienced by local housing authorities throughout the region. So it was, it was not just us. We are happy that it has been dealt with but and we are happy that we were able to find some additional methods for residents to communicate maintenance requests if something similar to happen in the future. And that's why those notices went out to residents. Unit inspections will be held at the House of Building Chestnut Manor and Cusack Terrace next week. We will be using an outside service again. The inspections will be done according to the local, state, and federal COVID-19 guidance and restrictions. In regards to laundry management service, the board will be reviewing the proposal tonight. We hope to have a timeline related to installation of the new machines from automatic laundry soon. Automatic laundry will also be providing instruction sheets and has indicated that they are willing to come on site to answer questions and provide some instruction and information related to the machines and their services. Our property managers are available additionally on this note and in the interim period while we wait for these new machines to be installed. Our property managers are available to provide change for residents that are having difficulty getting quarters. Residents that are interested in this should schedule an appointment with their property manager. In regards to the grievance panel, we are still in the process of confirming the rotating members of the panel. The members will include a tenant representative, a housing authority representative, and a disinterested party. We have requested each of the tenant associations, select a resident representative from their development. Once we confirm this and finalize the procedures, we will submit the DHCD for approval. And then in regards to the Mass Naro annual conference, which just happened this past week, myself and other housing authority staff ended the Mass Naro annual conference. One of the major themes within the conference was the pursuit of $450 million in state level ARPA money for housing authority capital needs across the Commonwealth. I have added a link on our website to the video that Mass Naro put together related to this. We will continue to advocate for this with our state senator and state representatives. Another theme was fair housing and other related requirements. As a result of this, I will be working on reviewing and potentially updating some of our policies to present to the board related to this, which includes but is not limited to fair housing reasonable accommodations and language access plan. Great. Thank you, Jack. Any questions for Jack? Go ahead. Can you hear me? Yep. Oh, yes. Well, I'm very pleased that the Council on Aging is arranging the flu shot. But this happens each time we still have monotony manner. And I was wondering if the Department of Health, I'd be able to assist with that. The flu symptoms are very important this year because the flu symptoms first of all mimic COVID. So they, but the other thing is that you can, if you have flu and get COVID, you get much sicker. I remember in here, I can talk to this that last time. After a long time when people went out and got their vaccines still that some vehicle came to monotony manner to give out vaccines, but most of that had been done. But I don't know what organization it was, but maybe we could possibly look into it. I don't know. Maybe if you're relative, do you have anything to say on this? Is she there? So doing you're actually, yeah, I am here. I am a little confused on what it is that we're talking about about the COVID vaccine situation. The flu shots. Jack just announced there have been arrangements where they have been done for all the senior residents. I'm not asking about how we might reach out to the Department of Health, someone to see if they could also maybe on site have someone give flu shots of monotony manner. It's very important this year because flu symptoms mimic COVID, but also they can mingle and you become much, much more ill. So that's my question. I remember last time at some point there was some vehicles that came in to give vaccines. By that time, most people had to have them. And I was wondering if you remember what organization might have done that. I do not. I do. They weren't doing it out of the vehicle. They were doing it in the lab skills center. I do not know what company it was. So Jack can follow up and talk to the public health department here in Allington, because I know they've done it in the past. So go ahead, Jack. I'll follow up with the director of health and human services to see what options we have and what we did last year. Great. Any other questions for Jack and the board members? Okay, let's move into the laundry service proposal. Number four, Jack. So in your board packet, I didn't. There were a lot of other paperwork related to, you know, the components and some other pretty small details, but the most important information I did provide was the actual percentages and they gave us two options. One option was 65% of the gross income collected from each machine, less clothing claims and refunds. And the other option was 50% of the gross income collected from each machine, less clothing claims and refund. But they would pay us $15,000 to purchase the existing equipment based off of, you know, just just looking at the math that looks like the 65% option would be over time would be the better option. And then, you know, we would have the option to extend that for another five years. And then I can provide some other details just related to it. So when they, so they will, they'll have machines on site, when which residents will be able to reload laundry cards. So they won't be actually sticking a credit card into the machine will be an actual product they'll load funds on to in the buildings they would be able to load, you know, actual cash into into the machine and put on on the card. And if they want to use a credit card that go on the automatic laundry website, and they'd be able to do it that way. And they said that there's a lot of difficulties in actually having the credit card to it on site. So the cash to load on to the card, and then credit card to do that online. It would be so every resident would get a card upfront. But one of the items within it would be that if a resident was to lose that card, they would have to pay will be a $5 charge for a new card. And that's, they said that there's some, some options that we could consider with that. They could either provide the, the, they could provide that card at the machine so they'd be able to get the mission, get the card right there, you know, or cards to be available that just at the office or we could do a hybrid of both to ensure that residents have had access to these placement cards. And then they'll be doing, you know, extensive preventative maintenance, which will include and not be limited to then cleaning, you know, following up with the machines to ensure that they're, you know, they're working as intended and probably a, if there is a service request, the service will will respond to it within 16 business hours. And as it indicated in the actual proposal. If, if a resident does, you know, if they do, you know, request a refund and they're granted that refund, that would come out of our 65%. Same as if there was damage done to a resident's clothing. That refund would come out of our 65%. Jack, are they, and I know we've only got the one sheet here and I pack it. So do I understand they're going to put two washes, two dryers in each facility, brand new machines. They're going to, they're going to replace every machine that exists in the, in the buildings right now so it's dependent upon on the building. So let's look at that. So for instance, at Chestnut Manor, there's currently four washes and four dryers. So they would replace four washes and four dryers and one cod station. So every building would get cod, every development would get a cod station, and they would, we would replace the existing, they would replace the existing machines. And so I don't understand the difference between option, option A and option A simple, they put new machines there, we get 65% of the split. Yep. And with a five year renewal, this is a five year contract with a five year renewal, I assume. Option B, what's the $15,000 option B mean? They would pay us for the existing machines on site. So like the machines that are already in the, in the laundry facilities, they would pay us for them instead of just removing them. They would pay us and replace them? Yeah. They would pay us and replace them. And what's the split after that? 50. 50. Okay. So do we have any idea, do you have any numbers on? Oh yeah, I think that's, that's providing really that contact. So we're, so what, like a, like a three year average that we had came out to about $60,000 that we were able to earn, you know, per year. So I mean, so that that's what I used. Okay, so yes, so you're saying it, we would do better financially to go for the 65%. Yeah, 65% each year of $60,000 is going to be better in the overall. And the machines that we have, they all work, correct? Well, I mean, if they've been worn out, you know, considerably over the over the past months, but they are working. I mean, whether or not some of them are going to break down tomorrow. I'm not sure. So would you go back to them and say, listen, we want you to buy the machines, give us, you know, 10 grand, something to get rid of them so we don't have to pay to get rid of them? We're not going to pay to get rid of them. So that that's that's part of the proposals that they would, you know, take, they're going to take the machine one way or the other. Okay, so option A is they keep our machines, pay us 65%. Yeah. Option B is they pay us 15 grand for the machines, and we get 50% of the split. Yes. Based on your evaluation, you think financially overall, we do better with option A, right? That's my, yeah, that's how I was. Does anybody have any questions to that? Yeah, I have one is, who maintains the machines, they do, right? Yes. So, so we don't do it. Okay. Okay, makes sense. So that's the benefit of going with the services that, you know, all service calls, all repairs, preventative maintenance, it all goes through them any any issues related to refunds, damage to clothing, it all goes to them. And if someone loses that card, who does it go to? Our people or their people? Their people. Seems like a no brainer. Is there any movement though in the cod? I mean, it charged them $5 for replacement goddess. I mean, it's a lot. So, I mean, so we went back and forth. I mean, the benefit of having them to having the card available in the machine is that, you know, if it's, if it's over the weekend and somebody loses their card, they'll be able to replace the card immediately. Okay. But I mean, we could also consider, you know, purchasing X number of cards for the housing authority and, you know, maybe providing them at a reduced rate or whatever we want to do. How do they load up money on this card? So they would put cash into the machine, like as if, I guess, you know, I keep thinking of like a casino or something like that. But like, you go in, you load the cash into the machine, and then, you know, and then you, then you would load, and it would load on. I see. And there's no way of using a credit card for this. They don't have that type of a device. You can use a credit card, but that part has to be done online. So you'd log into the website. And then you'd be able to use the credit card online. They said that they've had too many difficulties doing it on site related to Wi-Fi. And I think there's been a lot of requests for refunds related to the spidiness of the device, whether or not something that might be possible in the future. But that was a proposal at least. And does this cash machine accept all denominations, one, five, 10, 20? That's a good question. I would assume so by now. That's a really good question. I can confirm that. Yeah, I would just wonder if, you know, if you're going to do a watch for two bucks, yeah, you know, is it only going to take a $20 bill? Or can you put in two bucks, you know? Yeah. I think that's not that that's a deal breaker, but I think it's just something. And have you contacted any of the other clients that this outfit services to get any feedback on them? Yes, I was able to speak to quite a few, even at the conference. And, you know, everybody, they spoke very highly. They included some references with their proposal. Malden was one. I know Winchester's been pleased with them. Jack is part of the service contractor part of the maintenance. Who cleans the machines? They will. They will? How often? They have their own preventive maintenance plan. As far as how often, you know, they clean, I'd have to look into it a little bit more detail to give you that. But they do have an extensive preventive maintenance plan. Now, I don't suppose there's any reimbursement for the water that we're using or the electricity or the gas, right? No. It's just 65% of what they, of the growth. Is that what it is? 65% of the growth. Yeah. And of course, our system isn't such that we could put our finger on exactly what we're spending for watering. Right now. I mean, it's a five year. Is there any way to get out of it? Any way to get out? I'll work with John Greco on the terms in the contract. We haven't actually, you know, I wanted to wait till this until we actually sign the contract. So I'll work with John Greco just to ensure that the terms in the contract are favorable. Do you have any customers there? It's in here. Let me find it. Okay. Sorry. Do we need to vote on this tonight? That was my question. So John Greco, do we need, is this a bid type thing that we have to go out to bid? I wouldn't think so because we're not actually spending money, right? We did go out. They did a bid for this. They did a 30B, 30B outreach on this. So they did a 30B proposal on this. Okay. So then all's we have to do is vote on this tonight. And we can certainly take a vote that, you know, the final contract is agreeable by John Greco, the attorney. So, all right, so do we have any other questions? I mean, this is something that can be tabled for next time just to find out all this other information and just make a better, you know, more educated vote out of it. I mean, I think, you know, we were paying for the water and the electricity and the gas. So it's, you know, it's kind of a wash through here. However, we're going to lose, you know, a percentage of those $2 bills, which is not much given the fact that we're going to get all bring new equipment, given the fact that they're going to manage it and fix it. And I'm sure there's going to be parameters in that contract just like you said, they have to be within so many hours and so forth. So, yeah. So the positive certainly outweigh the negatives, but not that there is a negative. You know, Jack having the option to talk to the other housing authorities and the self-accompaniment didn't seem like there were any negatives. So I don't, I don't think there's a need to table it. I think the need is just to make sure that the contract provisions are acceptable to our attorney, you know. I don't have an exact number of the how many housing authorities they provide, but it's an extensive number. You know, I'd say, at least 50 plus housing authorities he told me the number at one point, you know might even close be close to 100 housing authorities. But I do, you know, you know, I spoke with individuals at the conference and then I also have references from Springfield housing authority forward the housing authority. And it looks like it's going to be a great partnership. One of the things that will be, you know, that'll be a positive and we'll have a service that's dedicated to if a resident's having issues with the machine. Ensuring that proper preventive maintenance is happening on the machines. And ensuring that residents to have a fast quick action to get refunds and other types of service requests related to it. And as well as that, is that right now our machines are quarter operated. And in order to convert them to a card machine option will be, you know, an extensive cost to the housing authority. I don't have that those figures in front of me at this point. But that would be an additional, you know, cost to retrofit those machines to be able to do that. Yeah, it's just senior housing care. No, this would include Minuteman too, right? There's two machine. The whole portfolio. So it would be, yeah, they would, they would be, you know, managing machines at every site. They'd be managing to see the machines at Minuteman or the life skills center. Okay. They'd be managing that great village. That's great. I'll make them my only question. If we were to purchase the cards that if they were to lose to be $5 we would receive it at a less amount to make it more affordable or would we also be just paying the $5 ourselves and I'm giving it out in case of emergency. I believe it's going to be $5 a car. And I can talk more with the service representative on that to see if there is any sort of wiggle room. I believe it is $5, $5 a car, but they, but they will also be providing us, I believe. I think it's 900 cards upfront. As part of just the kickoff for the project so we will have an excess upfront. When they located check. That's something that we'll be, we'll be figuring out with them, but that's ideally they'll be located within the laundry rooms themselves. I mean, the company itself where they located. They are out of. And while he's local, I just, I guess. Well, he's, well, he's, well he's looking at that up. I just want to add that this these machines are voluntary. I mean tenants don't have to use these machines. Right. And they can go to other laundry centers. So they're voluntary use their headquarters in a West. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. So do we need a vote to move this along? We have a motion. I would move to accept the laundry services proposal. What's it called automatic laundry services. In the 65% option. Based on a review by John. Based on a review by John Greco for the con with the contract. Okay. The second. I'll second that. Okay, we have a roll call. Roll call. Yes. Joanne. Yes. Nick. Yes. Yes. And Brian is a yes. Okay. So we're moving forward with that. When can I start check? So that's, that's the, you know, it's good for us to be able to get this moving because they, you know, there's, there's some, some backups in the supply chain. So, I mean, we were hoping ideally beginning in November, but you know, it could be mid to late November, given their projections, which is unfortunate by the reality of the market. Yep. Yeah, that's true. Okay, number five. Approval for a certificate of substantial completion Drake cottage building exterior of innovations. Jack. So I, so I worked with the superintendent maintenance from the murders and Chris Patrick the maintenance woman on site and they indicated that with the help of the art well through the architect advocates that the contractor has the punch list associated with this is part of the project. So by getting this, then, you know, I'll be able to update that and then they'll be able to move forward. Great. So do we need a motion for this. Yes. We have a motion for this one. Okay, I would move to accept that proposal certificate of substantial completion with DHCD project number 010096 second by Joanne. Thank you. We'll call vote to Nick. Yes. Gar. Yes. Joanne. Yes. The umbrella. Yeah. Ryan is yes. Moving on to number six. Actually, I've been asked to table this one. We're going to table number six. And we can get back to it in a future meeting. Moving to number seven. Approval of submission of community CPA. So this is the preliminary application for monotony manner window replacing project. Yeah. So, so this is the preliminary application. We don't need, you know, any real supporting documentation at this point. So just to make sure that we are able to submit us our preliminary preliminary application before the deadline of October 18. And then we'll move on to the board. Obviously, there's still a lot of unknowns related to the cross to the project and things like that. And that's moving forward with some other, you know, very necessary aspects related to that. But I did want to get it moving. I provided the preliminary preliminary application in the board packet for board members to review. If we are selected for this project, we would need the additional documentation in December, which I anticipate us having. And Jack, correct me if I'm wrong, but you've already got DC HD moving on this with the engineers coming out to look at the windows. And to stop moving this thing forward, right. That's correct. I've been in contact with the HCD is one aspect that I need to finish on my end. And then they'll be able to do that for us. When, when do you anticipate they might come. I'm not entirely sure. I hope within the next month to be able to, I hope before the next board meeting they'd be able to give us some more clarification. Because it's very hard to have when we have no formal estimate to keep talking to people. I had a couple of things. Nick graciously let me replace him on the CPA committee. And I've been doing some training. I wanted to add a few things to the application. Of course, the Drake village one you have much more concrete information about, since we don't. But one thing I was told for the monotomy Manning manner one is, we're in a category of preservation under housing but only preservation of complicated reasons. So we should mention preservation as often as possible, which I think you have your, you have in your application. The other thing is, they asked for a time. Don't have one so I asked during the training, and they said maybe at the end you could put it's in the planning stage, probably for both of them. It's in the planning stage. And I also wanted to ask. I mean the windows in our house are older. And as far as I know, they're not going to fall out. I, I thought also that the cells or the, what holds the windows in place is older than 1985. I can confirm that the windows themselves are listed in the system. Because I have two people come from the town to look at the gardens and so forth and they said, Oh, the windows look new, but the cells and the whatever you call the frames are not. So that might be important to put in the, when we find out more. Okay, thank you for doing this. Just a few, a few questions. Go ahead. How old the existing windows are, but I think that was answered 1985 you think was either 85 or 86 I have to check. And then how did you come up with the four to six million total cost. So that was based off of our maintenance staff. Yeah, that was their estimate and you know, hopefully we'll be able to get a much better realistic estimate very soon. And then my last question is, is this include doors to this does not include doors. But one of the things, you know, we'll be able to consider to is, you know, depending upon how much the cost of the windows and related components and coming out to if it's under what we anticipated for our own estimates. Maybe per these additional funding sources will will be able to maybe even look at expanding the project. I have one more question about air conditioners there is, are these going to windows going to be able to install air conditioners. I mean, I think that that's something that would have to look into with the architect and make sure that that's a design feature that, you know, would be a high priority. Yeah, I just don't want to ruin a bunch of new windows with air conditioners. I had a question. Often, like in our basement, when you start these projects you're into asbestos. Is that likely to happen in minority manner because the buildings are quite old. And that would need more costs. I think that that's, you know, where that high cost came from is our main staff anticipating some of the abatement that would be involved with the project. It's typically the cocking around the window. If it's that all that would potentially have asbestos in it. So, as simple as it is it's small but it would be costly to remove. One more question. Hold up in getting an appraisal. Is there any way to do it more quickly, I think. So the hold up with the study is that we were still waiting on the state to approve our annual plan. And that I believe that just got that just got done maybe even on Friday this past week. And so that was that was the hold up with the study and then the hold up with the engineers from the state coming out is I just need to take, I need to take a more detailed look at the in this system called CPS which actually has the components and and some of the items related to it to make sure that it's all listed correctly so that they can compare that to the actual market rates and do any of the necessary work so I that's something that's a high priority for me. I was, I didn't realize that was something I would need to do so it's, so I'll be doing that in the next day or so. Good. Thank you. Any other questions on this one so we need a motion to approve this so he can submit it. Thank you Nick second. Second, we have a second. Second. Second by Julian. All in favor Nick. Yeah. When. Yes, and Fiorella. Yeah, and Brian is a yes. That brings us to number eight. Same thing with the CPA application but this is for the house of building roof replacement project. And this one is, you know, hopefully where we want to look. You know, there's there's some more concrete data like Joanna indicated related to this project because the state engineers and some of that. That has already happened to a degree. I think that, you know, it hasn't been looked at since, you know, before the pandemic so we're also going to have to look at that to see if those numbers are going to increase which I'm sure they will. But that's, you know, we have a better understanding of the scope and hopefully the potential cost for that project. And it does. It does seem to meet the, the, the intent of preservation acts preservation component. Okay. So we need a motion for this as well. Yes. Yep. Thank you. Oh, those care. I'll second it. So God moved it. Second it. All in favor, Fiorella. Yeah. Yes. Nick. Yes. And Brian was a yes. That one moves forward. Now we're on to number nine integrative pest management update. We took some of our first, I would call both reactionary and preventative measures at the house or building. So we were able to do an inspection and treatment for the entire building last week. Through that process, we were able to have property managers and maintenance staff on site to ensure that we had a good understanding of any, any, any issues within resident in units or in the building as a whole so that we could hopefully. You know, focus on those moving forward and provide education as needed. Related to staff or, you know, even, even the residents as a whole, how we can work together. In regards to, I think in the last meeting I had spoken about a conversation I had with Christine more general, the director of health and human services. I had spoken with her briefly again this past week. And she indicated that there is an individual that they have identified to hopefully help help help us with this. However, you know, given given how busy they are with a lot of different things I, you know, we still need to set up on some dates to talk more definitive details on how we're going to move forward together. Okay. Yeah. Great. Number 10 monotony minute man or tenant association elections Jack can you bring everybody up the board on the events of the election. So, the election happened. Was it the, was it the 15th, I believe, so Wednesday, September 15. Yeah, Jack Cooper from mass union of public housing tenants oversaw the election with the, with the assistance of the women's voters. I was able to provide some of them some assistance in verifying residents to ensure that they were eligible to vote, which the only requirements for that is that they're over the age of 18. In fact, the resident of an ordinary manner to be any member of the household, whether you're the household or another member of the household. So I was able to do that. There was a, I believe there was 71 individuals that voted so it was a great turnout and really a testament to the great work that they did down there. That's a, that percentage is, you know, probably better than any of the local voting that happens in the area so great kudos kudos to them on on that. And that's the election results we we did receive the results from the mass union of public housing tenants. And the election results that were indicated to us are that Jennifer Nandes was elected president, Vanessa Roselle was elected vice president, Martha Kyaga was elected co vice president Lisa her see, secretary and Mary Ann Roselle as treasurer. And went out and also just one other thing was Jack Cooper did indicate to me that the next step in their process, as they before they can. They can get actually certified by the board would be that they would draft their, their bio laws. So he'll be working with them on that so once they've done that I believe then they can, you know, request to be certified by the board. That's good news. Thanks to everybody that helped out with that process it was a long time for managing that we'd go join long coming. Number 11 rule of minutes, special meeting 712 21 everybody the chance to take the post. And if so do we have a motion to approve them. Yeah, I moved to approve the special meeting minutes of 712. The second. Second that second by Fiorella. Nick. You're on mute dude. Nick. Yes. Gar. Yes. You win. Yes. Fiorella. Yeah. Yes. Number 12 approval of the executive session minutes from 712 2021. We have a motion. Motion to approve. So motion moved by Fiorella second by Nick. Nick. Yes. Gar. Yes. Joanne. Yes. And Fiorella. Yes. And that passes and number 13 approval of the regular meeting minutes of 825 2021. Motion to approve. Second. Second. The move by second by Gar. Roll call vote Nick. Yes. Gar. Yes. Joanne. Yes. And Fiorella. Yeah. Now we go on to appointments. I just want to make a note. Anybody in the general public interested in speaking. If you have any other guidelines, please send me a chat directly to me. Brian Connor and give me your name, your address and the subject medialy to speak on. So if you wish to speak publicly. Before the board, you'd have to do that. As far as I have no chats. So let's go to local tenant organizations. Yeah. Jen on Jen Hernandez. I see. Lillian Hernandez is. On Jack. Yeah, she is. Let me on allow her. Brian. They can't select you on the. On the chat. Can you fix that? I'm trying to work on it. I can't, I can't a lot. I can send it to the panelists, which I've already indicated. So it would be just. Just the board plus John Greco myself. Here she is. Is that a, is that a feature on my, my end of it here, Jack? Say again. Is that, is that a feature that I have to enable here on my end? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Can you hear me? Okay. Jen Hernandez is, is on, but, but if they send it to the, send it to the panelists, it would just be myself, you, the board and John Greco. Okay. So let's have. Jen Hernandez welcome on board and thank you for. And thank you to everybody down there. We elected you. Typically on our meetings here. Board meetings. We allow the presidents and associations to speak. And more on a, on a broad matter. And we asked that the, the presidents don't get into the details. The needs of the facility that happens during the meetings with the maintenance staff. There's a particular meeting every month. Where you folks meet directly with the maintenance staff and the executive director. And that's bring up anything to do with issues or, or needs or things like that. And so, I think the meeting is more on a broad brush. And we do allow you, we like, we don't limit your time. So if you have, I know you just added, I know you work. You're board meeting by laws. But you'd like to say we would love to hear it. So go ahead. Can you hear me? Yes. Oh, fantastic. Thank you very much. First, I wanted to say how thrilled I am to have been on the board meeting. And I want to thank all of the residents of monotony manner and its residents to the best of my ability. Secondly, I want to thank all of the residents of monotony manner who came out to vote. It was a great turnout and I appreciate each and every one of you. A special thank you to Rachel, Alicia, Lisa and Jack Cooper, along with the others who helped get the. And on my man, our tenant organization started again. We're excited to get going on the bylaws and we'll be, we'll be back in a minute. And next month, I hope to have a full report to bring to you all. Great. Great. In the meantime, feel free to reach out to any of the board members or Jack or maintenance staff or myself. Have any questions or need any advice to get up and running. And we truly look forward to your participation here in the future. I certainly will. And we look forward to working with all of you. Great. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So moving on to Winslow is Pam on Jack. Yes. Ham Housa. Would you like to say anything? Yes, I would. Thank you very much. First of all, I think the housing authority, especially the office workers need to give a big thank you to the workers that put these windows in. They are fantastic. They've been cordial. They've been polite. They've been great. They've been very friendly. They've been very kind. They've been kind to the workers. They've been very kind to the workers. They've been very kind to the workers. They've been very kind to the workers. They've been very kind to the workers. But I think that there's, I think that there's a lot of problems with the weather, which we have had no control over. Everything went smooth. And I want to thank that wish the housing authority would give them a great big thank you from us. The fair. Second of all, we got the Moderna short. to us here. And next on my list is, are we going to get our money this year for the Tennis Association? Second, we need to know the status of Christmas parties very soon. So if we can have one, we can go around and start calling caterers. And going back to the window problem here, I know there are other priorities within the housing authority, mainly windows down at Monotomy Manor and roof problems with Chesna and also the house building. But we have 44 apartments here in this building that did not get windows. They're the apartments that are back pushed back in on the balconies. And I get a lot of complaints from the people in those apartments. How come we're not getting anything? And I just want to throw out that maybe something could come up within a year that money might be going into get those people new windows or not. And I've been getting a lot of questions. Jack, you've been doing one fantastic job and everybody loves you in that position, but they want to know the status of John Griffin if he's coming back or if he's not coming back. It's been well over the three months since his last extension. I'd like to know that. So a few people to get back to me about that. I greatly appreciate it. Again, thank you very much for your time. And I appreciate the way the meetings are being run now. Thank you. Great. Thank you, Pam. I don't see Sharon from Chesna or Mike from QZAC. Do you see them, Jack? No. And I think if I remember somebody was going to speak on, there was somebody else from QZAC. Was it Ellen Lee? I don't see her on the call either. I don't see her on the call either. All right. And I don't have any general public issues here. I did receive a request from a couple individuals, right? I'm not sure if you want me to just send you forward them to you in the chat. Yes, forward them to me, please. And there were some comments in the chat, but I'm not really sure if they were requesting to be recognized. No, I read them. So the only one I'm seeing here is from Mr. Ward. Is that correct? That seems to be the only one requesting. And I think, unfortunately, we've discussed this over and over and over. He wants to comment on the tenant board member selection process, which is past tense. It was done by the select and not this board. So I really don't see any need to rehash over and over. So if Mr. Ward, if there's anything more pertinent, feel free to reach out to myself or Jack. But I don't think there's a need to rehash this. It's been done. The tenant board member is Fiorella. And we're very pleased with the participation. So, barring nothing else? Do we have a motion to adjourn? We'll move. Second. Second. Second by Gar. All right, thank you. Oh, we need a roll call. Nick? Yes. Gar? Yes. Gwen? Yes. Fiorella? Yeah. All right, great. We look forward to working with the new president and getting the other presidents up on board very, very soon. And thank you for all your hard work, Jack. Keep it up. Thank you, Jack. Thank you, everybody. Meeting adjourned. Thanks.