 Time here from Warren Systems, and I've been reviewing this switch for a little bit longer than expected But that works out better for you fold disclosure up front. This was sent to me by ingenious. They said hey, Tom What do you think of this? So well, I started setting it up plugging in set up some v-lands on it And it's PoE switch. So I powered some cameras off of it and Yeah, so far it worked really well actually end up testing it for a little bit longer than expected It's been plugged in and running at my house for probably well studio I should say more specifically powering the cameras that my studio in my house for about two months now and Haven't had any problems. So too long didn't watch it works fine Specifically what model is this? Well, this is an ingenious ECS 2512 FP this has eight two and a half gig PoE ports and four ten gig SFP plus ports as VLAN support Mac based LECL support PoE plus plus with a 240 watt power budget and that's all eight of these portraits right here Supports leak aggregation all the usual features. This is not a layer three switch though. So there is no routing functionality It's just you know VLAN aware switch LLDP where switch if you want to set it up for phones and power those or power cameras or power access points off it Good for all of those and it supports SNMP monitoring So it does have some basic monitoring functions as well as can connect to the ingenious cloud So we're gonna go over the basic settings of this switch and already, you know, it's worked out so well I haven't had any problems with it But we'll show you what the web interface looks like on it and then we'll attach it to their cloud interface and give you an Idea how that works. You do not have to attach this to the cloud This is a switch that can work independently with its own Web interface and never have to be attached to a cloud. It's an optional feature So we won't spend too much time on the cloud features It's actually just more or less reproducing most of the web interface into the cloud We'll talk about the VLAN setup because the firmware on this was updated all of two days ago on June 19th, 2022 And because of that the interface looks a little different than when I first got it There's been actually a couple different firmware updates on there So if you were to go through their documentation as of today in June 2022 You will realize that that documentation is well still shows all the old settings on there in terms of the way They used to lay it out. 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We talk about on this channel and now back to our content Now we're gonna start here at the product page the cloud managed eight port 240 PoE plus plus multi gigabit two and a half gigs switch with four SFP plus uplink ports and I want to note that the cloud manage as I said the beginning is an option Not a requirement. These do not have to be connected to the cloud System that ingenious has it has a local interface taking a quick closer look at the switch and a product itself though It's pretty basic not a lot to look at here We have the eight ports that are front that are two and a half gig and the four SFP plus ports and the one council port And there's a little reset button buried in there And if you notice when you look off to the side of the switch here, it is not passively cool But has two fans in there that are not that loud I wouldn't want it sitting on a desk next to me But it if it was it was not really that loud and it certainly by far not the loudest thing in my rack Standard power connector on the back now We will be covering the cloud interface, but I thought I'd start with the local unadopted interface There is a default password that was set. I did change it if you don't change it It bugs you to do so so do change the default password now Here in full zoom in to make the least your read here on YouTube You have the model name you have the IP address subnet mask it by default is set to DHCP Which is greatly convenient you plug it in it'll grab an address I usually leave things at DHCP and statically assign them via reservations But on this dashboard you have a glance that there's only one device plugged in right now to port 2 using about 3 watts of power We have 2 v-lands to find we will cover how to define another v-lan But I left this one set up because I was testing cameras with it now over here to the config system settings Pretty basic setup here. You can rename it You can give it a system location a system contact Who should you contact if this has got a problem you can put that information in there defaults to management on v-lan 1 But that can be changed by the way the web interface is accessible on both port 80 and port 4 4 3 So fyi those are accessible on v-lan 1 by default unless you change it now It does offer IPv6 then you have all your usual settings here art table system time, which is default to be set from a NTP server just go back up here a couple other options including a couple that I don't know what they are So we have this fit con IP address that both searching for and reading the manual to not really lend me any information To what it was. I didn't contact them on this particular thing I did contact them on what we'll talk about next and you see all the v-lan settings here But we'll jump to port settings because this is where I have a little bit of confusion that they didn't reply in a clear way Here's those ports 1 through 8 and then the SFP ports which are 9 through 12 And then here's these ports t1 t2 t3 t4 all the way to t8. I thought they stood for trunk port I did message them. They said no it didn't but they didn't say what it stood for so I still don't know what these ports do or what they are They don't seem to need to be changed or anything to Do anything they don't show up because I right now have port one is set to auto And it's connected at one gig and this one set to auto and one gig which is accurate in what they're connected to These just say link down all the time, and I don't know how to get them to link up Maybe there's some feature. I'm just not aware of but the manual nor the person sent me the switch could answer exactly what that did and I Was leave it at that now it does have port isolation mirror jumbo frame support LDP settings are here local device remote device. This is actually kind of interesting there's an option in the Cloud platform to add more than your standard phones for the LDP which I thought was kind of interesting That you could do that So if you have something that you still want to be assigned auto through LDP Which it uses the MAC address to determine if it's a phone device and automatically assigns that you can look up But more details of how LDP works It's a standard protocol, but it's kind of cool that they have that as an option But I only seen that in the cloud not here locally now. Let's go down the list here power supply And you can set the budget total power budget You can set it to be less than and I don't know why you would but you can and guess you want to make sure that this Can be not overdone not that it should be overdone if it supports 240 it should stay at 240 Maybe it's just for sending some of the warnings. I didn't really Get a absolute clear answer on that now for this here It's kind of interesting because you can go to the POE port settings and you can edit for example This is delivering single and we can say priority low medium high great state on or off or Use or defined and set a limit for that particular port where you do want this to use any more than this particular amount of wattage so You can set it to six watts. You could say don't use more than 10 watts on this particular port So it gives you a little bit of fine-grained control over that and for anyone wondering or wants to read the manual leave a link to it But this is how the manual looks total power budget. I don't know the total amount of the power switch can provide on all ports Consume power displays a total amount of power. That's it. It doesn't tell me exactly What that does otherwise there's a little bit of documentation here about it But it doesn't really give me more information of why I would set it lower now before we get to the VLAN settings I'll have mentioned that it does have this option in here, but it's not on the spec sheet It does offer static routes for layer 3. I didn't try these I just found it odd that they show up here because well when I look through the book and I look through The specs on the site. It didn't say it supported this So I'll work under the assumption that this is just there for looks and doesn't actually do anything I didn't realize I spent a lot of time trying to configure Things that don't appear to work in here, but yeah, it does it picks up this route right here for the DHCP gateway, but yeah, kind of odd the way that works But we do have other things like IGMP snooping in here as well And then we'll go down to QoS. I Didn't do a lot of testing on there, but it does offer QoS options on here So that that wasn't the list of things that it says it can do setting the Ingress or e-grace for rate limits and storm control on the different ports, but let's look at the VLANs now All right, so let's create some VLAN settings. We'll zoom in a little make this easy Walk through the process first give it a VLAN ID 1-3-3-7 We'll call it testing I'm way to apply This creates the VLAN Part in terms of like the tag and the virtual ID Then we actually have to start doing all the other parts that are a little bit unclear other Documentation and there's a couple of ways to do it. You can click this and just type in the port Our trunk port is one so that's our port where the tags are coming in make sure you check the little box next to it Then you can click here This is where we're going to untag in on port 8 you can click the edit or you can click the ports And they'll tell you would be an untagged port no problem Enabled and then we hit the checkbox here Then we click apply if you don't click apply and you click to another screen It will lose those settings now as I said just to give a brief intro here this right here And we had to set these as untagged to let the ports come in on VLAN 1 and then we have on the camera We'll close this one here on the camera because we want the trunk port Which is port 1 to bring in VLAN tag 60 and we want it to bring in VLAN tag 1-3-3-7 then we want those VLAN tags to Be coming out of ports 3 and 4 from my camera and port 8 for our testing device here kind of gets you an idea It's a little confusing, but we're not done yet to actually activate so those ports work Then you have to set the PV ID of the port so we go to this other page And now that we defined it and have the port set We're going to go over here, and we're going to click edit and we're going to change it to 1-3-3-7 Access type all you can actually get more granular here I'm not going to get to every little detail about it But you get the idea that accept type all or in this case We're bringing it down to only this particular VLAN It's just a little confusing to me how they decided it needed to be on a couple pages And here's those ports again T1 through T8 that you can also add these two But I don't know what they do as I said earlier in a video So that's how you do VLANs in here and if you're thinking it's easier if you attach to the cloud Nope, it's actually the same. The nice thing is when you look at things like this Table right here. You can kind of get an overview of what ports are tagged and untagged as you stack all of your VLANs on here I'm hoping they will update their documentation But as of June 2022 and I did reach out to them about this their documentation is not 100% great on this that you have to set both of these to get that working now the final couple things I'll mention is it does have under security 802 11x access and Port security options. I did not spend time testing or set up a radius server with this I just don't have the time to go that in depth this particular switch I just wanted to test the basic functions and the functions listed in there Which is as I said why skip the layer 3 that it shows up in there But according to the documentation and a manual it's not a supported function is set up static routes inside of this Now before we log into the cloud interface I want to mention they have this free versus pro license and there's a lot of details in here I'm not going to spend too much time on it because it's pretty well documented here What you get or what you don't get unless you have the pro license and there's a Q&A and there's a whole learn more about Pro features and they go into why you should have a pro license You just get some basic functionality with the free version But I'll also mention like if you want priority support That's part of what they're trying to upsell you on with the pro So if you want their assistance want their support that's something they have I did not see the pricing available in here They have a couple different things that maybe I could Google around and find it But it kind of dates the video because prices are always subject to change But this is what that site looks like in June of 2022 Now this is what their cloud interface looks like right now and you can see I have one of my Switches in there and we're gonna click it on dark mode because thank you ingenious for at least having dark mode ready at the top And easy to get to how do you add things in there? It's actually pretty simple You're gonna go here and click register device You're gonna scan it or drop the serial number in that is really simple to do because the system by default Beacons out to their cloud once it gets online you can block it It doesn't seem to affect the device at all if you do so, but if you do decide to You know register a cloud you just drop this in there and unblock it if you will or just let it get out to the internet And it will automatically start adding the devices in there It does require a password or that you know the password to actually get the access level in there as well So you can't just randomly add people serial numbers because I tested that now once you have these in inventory you click assign to network I've already built a network called Tom studio and we click apply I have good news if you went through all the pain of setting up that vlan It works just the same inside of here because it copies the vlan settings You don't have to do it again when you register these to the cloud that cloud registration We'll have the switch showing up. We're here in the dashboard in a moment All right now that we have the switch online and don't worry That's not my public way an IP but it does tell you what IP addresses is coming from and it gives you this kind of simple interface for Here allegedly renamed the switch. I like that. It's got these little Blink lights right here to kind of show you what it's doing for vlan one or vlan 60 or to vlan 1337 So it kind of gives you an easy overview The uptime is actually interesting because it is the uptime of the switch not how long it's been in the cloud So it did not reset or unprovision my local settings reboot the switch to adopt it It's just simply in the cloud now from there. Most things are pretty much the same I'm not gonna spend a ton of time on here because well I don't have any ss ad's or anything else, but let's go back over to vlan settings And does this interface look familiar if we can click on it? We can name it here So this is so where you define the vlan's and then we're gonna go back over to switch settings And you have all your LLDP settings your voice vlan By the way, this was interesting and as I think I'd mentioned you can add different OUI addresses and descriptions if you want to add things that weren't already in that LLDP option. So I think that's kind of nice that they have that extended features in there Let's go over to Vlan's itself now Which can be a little bit confusing because you can't get to them from where you think you'd be able to under vlan settings You actually go back over here to the dashboard you go to the switch And you're gonna click on details then you can adjust the details of the actual switch And then we have our Vlan settings again like we had over there where we could define them that defines them globally This defines them specific to the switch and then there's our port configuration and there is The option to click that click configure and do all the adjustment on a per port setting is slightly different than the way it looks Inside of the local interface so it aggregates a few different things together like differently but not really that much different so it's just a kind of moving and shuffling around things and by the way We're gonna go switch over to our local interface again And you can still define things over here. So we can so go back over and set our Vlan settings and Vlan tables right here so I can still add more things and if I add them here It'll refresh and show up in the web interface. So I like that. They let you go back and forth between both That is an option. They actually had added to this particular system. It wasn't there before there was an option Somewhere buried in here that they turned on that allow you to locally manage it at the same time Kind of interesting because it's not an easy one to find. I found it once but didn't find it again Yeah, I don't know where it is or if that setting is now gone It was an option. They did have those so it allowed for local management, but I can't find it anymore I'm just being as honest as I can about the way this interface works because it is definitely a bit of confusion For example, let's add, you know, one two three four Another test And we'll show how that shows up once again, you can do it here then we go back over here to dashboard Or I imagine you can probably just go right to the switches And you just want to go to the details and then we can add that other vlan We added there's just a few different ways that they could have made the interface of my opinion a little bit better But I just wanted to highlight that it's possible to do all these things on here But it is also a few extra clicks to get them done and some things aren't actually clickable So we actually got to click on a port. Let's use port seven for this one and Then we can go through and label it set the speed duplex choose the vlan settings So on and so forth, but you still have over here Here's in that other test right here, and you still even though you can do those this interface is still important For doing the part where you set up the different tags on there So if we choose it, we just choose this port right here. So It's very great out. But yes, we want to choose that it's gonna come in on our trunk port And we wanted to use port seven so you click on this little part here and we click eight Then we click that we're gonna click check See another test. What we actually don't want on part eight. We wanted this one important seven. So let me edit that Seven hit the checkbox hit apply and you still have to assign and tag it over here Now that just pushed it down to the switch. So it's still a little bit of the nuance I think they could do a better job on this I'm saying this because I'm hoping people at ingenious are watching me click through these interfaces and hoping saying Yeah, that could be done a little better as many of the audience may be doing as well a few final comments on this switch and things I didn't mention earlier. Yes, I did try some different adapters in the SFP plus It doesn't seem to care what brand the adapters are and I did try this RJ 45 QS FP SFP plus QS FP tech Not a QS FP adapter don't don't get those confused But I've used this before in a couple other demos this had no problem working And it will allow for a 10 gig connection between the device. I also tried these ubiquity SFP plus fiber modules. These work perfectly fine in it as well. It didn't seem to care So it doesn't appear to have any vendor lock in on the SFP SFP plus ports on here other thoughts What about VLAN hopping because that comes up every now and then I did lock down one of the ports with specific VLAN and try To get back to the management interface by statically assigning an IP on the system because this worked and does probably work On some of the other Switches out there that exists. It's a really simple test that should not pass. I think it was a TP link switch I have an old video where I showed it working years ago But no that didn't work on this particular switch now as I said in beginning. This was sent to me by Ingenious I have a full contents ethics policy. This was not a paid endorsement by them They did send me this unit for review The opinions are all here my own and not those of ingenious But I did contact their support as I said earlier in a video and asked them questions about why the VLAN tags or what those T ports are and a couple of other things that I just don't really have an answer to Because it's not in the documentation and they didn't really answer that particular question But I was able to configure it without that knowledge So take that for what it's worth. It's not a bad switch. It's been running for a few months pushing my cameras It never gave me any trouble It went through all the firmware updates that were set to be automatically done when I had it attached to the cloud It did those firmware updates it occasionally surprised me Because at 2 a.m. When I told us to do the updates, which is a setting you can control It also when you're powering your cameras sets off a tamper alarm at 2 a.m. That someone's messing with your cameras That's how I knew the switch was updating but the updates went smooth. It always came back online It just made all my cameras go out that were attached to it briefly because you know They lose connection while it reboots updates firmware. It's a pretty minor inconvenience I do like the fact that it has auto firmware update because we know there's plenty of things out there that never get Firmware updates. It is a easy setting. 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