 So, what we're going to do is to discuss solutions to the gaps that we have identified earlier. So remember game listed six gaps, right? So if we flip those gaps around, they can also be the domains of solutions, right? So now we're going to have a discussion, a World Cafe discussions on each of the solutions that we're going to bring forward. And if you actually notice the solutions also are the topics for the flagship programs that's being launched. Now on your name tags, there's a color, right? If you can go towards the flip chart where your color is, right? So please all stand and look for your color for the flip charts. And within each of those tables there will be a host and a scribe. The online participants you can join and it will be facilitated by Dr. Pakde. Pakde will have instructions for you. The questions to discuss. If you look at the screen, how can we emphasize inclusion and equity as integral to the success of this particular solution for policy makers rather than treating them as mere add-ons? The second one is that what strategies are required to transform inclusion and equity from words on paper to genuine substantive aspects of this solution who holds the responsibility for implementing these changes. So those are the questions that you will need to discuss and you have 15 minutes for the first round. Online participants, please join. Dr. Pakde will facilitate the conversation with you. I think maybe we just continue with our own discussion. As you can see, they have seven groups that are divided here in person but for online participants we are only having one group to have the discussion. So the way that we will be doing it is different than what the people that are here in person are doing with the cafe discussion. But I think just to get us started, as you can see from the screen that Agus is sharing. So these are the two key questions that they would like us to discuss or think about basically. So the first question would be how can we emphasize inclusion and equity as integral to the success of this solution and who holds the responsibility for implementing these changes? So these are the two key questions that the organizer would like us to reflect on. The way that we will be doing it is to make sure that we have a clear understanding of what is going on and what is going on and what is going on and what is going on and what is going on and what is going on and the way that we will be doing this is that because everyone is coming from different background and we are not dividing into group one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. The way that they would like us to do is that think about these two questions and depending on what of the seven question that you would like and you can answer them. So what it means is that we have like two key questions that we can consider and then you can reflect on these based on whatever topic that you would like to reflect on based on the seven themes that they have or what Agus have shown before this. Let me see if I can also share the screen so that you can see the group. So this is the seven tables that they have in person. So what the organizer would like us to do would be that with the two questions that you have just seen, we can actually decide what topic among the seven topics that you see here that we would like to reflect on using the two questions that they have shown just now in the slide. And the way that we would be doing this is that we will be giving you about 15 minutes to decide what question that you want to answer. What table that you would like to pick in order to answer the questions that you have just seen. Please click on the join the board from Agus in the chat. Then you will see the solution Cafe Jam board. So what you would like what we would like you to do is that the two questions that you have seen you have about 15 minutes to put together the notes on one of the tables or all the tables if you would like to I just quick check in should we come back together or do you still need more time to answer the questions? Looks like quite a few people have answered their answers Hopefully someone can keep an eye on them. Maybe I suggest that we now come back together because we have about 15 minutes left and then we also have to report back to the plenary the outcome of our exercise. So can I please ask that we come back together if it's okay? I hope that the silence means that it's okay. Can you actually hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. Okay, thank you. Yes, I also see that I think let's come back together and thank you so much first of all for the inputs that you have provided on the different topics. I just want to thank you for those suggestions from my side because the next activity in the next session when we come back together Isabel will be reporting back on the inputs from our participants. So maybe I would ask Isabel for each of the cafe tables that we have here. If you have any question with regards to the input that we have seen in the sticky notes so back to you Isabel. Yes, one moment. Okay, so I think I understand most of them and they're really cool answers. One question I'm not sure who wrote it on cafe one governing long time climate change adaptation measures. Someone's put bridging capital could be a practical strategy for long term. Would you be at someone whoever wrote that be able to just expand a little bit on that? That would be useful. I tried to find out who wrote that but I don't think I could but just could someone who wrote this note elaborate a little bit on what you have written here. You've put in a chat. Yeah, if you could just write a couple of sentences on what you mean, that would be great. But what I've taken from most of all of these cafes all of the comments that you've put are very similar and all relate to ensuring participation of all stakeholders all members of the community to ensure that these inclusion issues are addressed not just in the policy design but throughout the whole process to implementation and the practical level as well. Yes. And also people have put about talking about who is actually being impacted by these and that's the same for quite a lot of these cafes these topics. Who are we talking about and what are these either the positive impacts or these unintended negative impacts as well? So who is it sustainable for and who are we talking about? We have much longer until we have the report back. We have about 10 minutes but of course if everything is clear on your side, Isabel we can also have we can also end the sessions and then we just wait to report back but I just wanted to make sure that because you will be reporting back that the notes are clear for you. Thank you. Yes, I think so. In the next 5 minutes I'll just quickly review again but they all seem very clear. Thank you guys. Thank you so much everyone and also thank you to Isabel who will be reporting the outcome of this exercise. We can actually have a bit of an early break but then we will come back together in the plenary. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Please have a quick break and then we'll come back together. Thank you. Okay. Thank you very much. Can we start switching tables now? Yeah, this table can you go to Andrew Andrew's table can you come down to Leonie and then this table you go down to Karen and then Karen's table come down here and then those in the middle the middle one goes to the end the end one goes to the front and then the front one goes to the middle. Okay, apologies. We really need to wrap up now because otherwise we will be here forever discussing we need to report back. Okay. Can you all please start bringing your flip charts and lining up lining them up in front according to the numbers that we have here. Okay. I'm sure everyone is excited to find out what were discussed in each of the group. So please come forward if you want to listen and look at all the different flip charts. Again, so let's be reminded ourselves why we're doing this. We're trying to look for those or develop those guiding principles that we have discussed earlier so that when we look at these solutions we have very clear guidance on how to ensure that they are equitable and they are inclusive. Okay. Now let's start with our online participants. So my name is Isabel Malin and I am a researcher at SEI. I'm in both the Summonet project and a little bit on MTT as well. So the virtual cafe we looked at all six or seven of the topics that was proposed and I guess one of the key takeaways for us was looking at no production and participation of everyone involved. So from stakeholders participation of everyone in the local communities we've got the technical and social team as well. So this includes ensuring that there's free, prior and informed consent and we also looked at the question of who. So who is the sustainable pathway actually sustainable for in cafe six or who is this new technology actually benefiting. So ensuring that there's no unintended negative outcomes. And we thought that this essentially comes from comes down to communicating and ensuring that there's full participation to avoid silos particularly between technical and social teams that this will then ensure that there's inclusion in all of these topics. I hope you're able to hear me. Thank you very much Isabel and our online participants. A big round of applause. So let's move on to the next group. So maybe let's start from this side. So who will report on other solutions? Who is described for other solutions? Go ahead. Hi everyone. So my name is Kain Su and together with Dr. Ching Nehra we facilitate other solutions that we haven't really discussed today. So we have a few things but our highlight would be that all the solutions we discuss about people dimension is really important. So and we haven't heard enough about focusing on the behavior change of the people and this is not an easy process and we discussed and really demanded is through a few approaches like for example incentive structures where people are giving social, economic and political incentive structures but this has to be well coordinated between ministries and related stakeholders and also we must be aware of unintended consequences from this kind of measures and one more important thing is that through education like for WEC water climate energy we can also add it to curriculum since the very young age through this we can gradually encourage behavior change of generations coming generations and methodological approach such as right based framework and gender transformative approaches and we have already maybe seen some of this in like coming up Asian environmental rights framework and to encouraging these kind of approaches we can encourage behavior changes and that's from highlights from our group. Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Kang Su. Table number six will be reporting. Yes, good afternoon. I am the Mekong Sintang fellow on Jesse Component and my group focus on two ranges renewable energy transition and our discussion focus on inclusion and equity like what can we make the renewable energy transition more inclusion and equity way so our approach as to I'm going to highlight us as to change the channel to change the motivation channel to lot people think about why do we need to just the renewable energy and then so that another option we change the motivation channel so another that we also think about the multi-channel communication which make sure that to inform all stakeholders about the decision making about the motivation about the information about the renewable energy and then one last one thing that to also keep in mind about the inclusion and equity renewable energy is to keep user in mind this is one of the approach that raised in our team and this is also important to think about the bottom-up approach with the public or we the Andrew sir want to transition to the renewable energy we advocate with the government counterpart with the private sector but it also important to let the local community to own it to be a part of the renewable energy and infrastructure so I think this is all the highlight from our group discussion thank you thank you very much so valuable table five so our team is the topic is enhancing effectiveness and civil okay so the topic of table five is enhancing the effectiveness of civil society policy influence organization in the short words just CBO or CSO and my name is Tine from Summonet steering committee young member and together with sorry Pat sorry Pat, thank you and from the table discussion we learn a lot from the senior researcher and senior advisor first we want to know about effectiveness and how microphone how to make the organization at the local level at the very grassroots level effective so we come with first idea is respect other people opinion and do no harm this principle that to make sure that even in the group of different opinion we still respect the partner we still respect the local partner and the researcher especially do no harm and respect the local people opinion oh hello and the second one was to be inclusive and make good networks and to also recognize that they are both formal and informal connections that we can make long term that are useful and helpful towards achieving effectiveness and one of the things to be inclusive and make good connection is maybe we come with informal connection because from the experience of many senior researcher from our table they share that sometime informal meeting informal connection is even more important than interestingly have influence on the policy maker and the researcher of the mediator also need to know have the tactic to approach the right person in the right time for influence the policy so it's important and need to be very strategic and there's also a third point about meaningful engagement for this one I think it's I don't know Tan do you have an idea about what they wrote yeah the funny story is I chose the group first and Paribhat is the second person chose the meeting but we still understanding we had a meaningful discussion can I engage okay so meaningful engagement is the big big keywords so people on the table also discuss about how to engage people how to really make the local people can let the the voice of the local people be heard so it's very important question how to be how to engage them or like the approach of the researcher we approach them in the beginning of the process in the middle process adjust the result we just need just come to the field just to collect the data and just have the result it's not engagement engagement is more meaningful and need to process a first building and really have to listen to the local what is the issues that they really want to bring to the policy maker and researchers need to understand the only way that's the only way they engage with the researcher and policy maker because if it is not come from the localist the policy don't work and the researcher result doesn't come to effect to the people thanks Tan and I also think the third point and links with the fourth point about open mindedness which I think the linking of the two is like being respectful when we open minded we also have to be respectful I think a few panelist members also mention about that in terms of trust in terms of making sure that we don't always think our own thinking is right but also respecting other people's diverse opinions as well because that can be helpful when we do our work as well would you say that is right Tan maybe one more final point one final point so actually we have many other points like the strategy in identifying issues is quite similar to engagement how to make people engage so we need to identify the issues that is really relevant and that the issues that can we need to be strategic that if the demand can reach at the policy level or not we need to be realistic about the demand and the trust sorry I have to cut you at this point because we still have several groups to report and what we are looking for really is a key highlight so maybe in one sentence what is the key highlight in one sentence I think Dr. Juan said it best we have to be effective we have to have money under the table thank you very much I hope Dr. Juan is not serious about that alright table number four okay suggest the highlight please okay and tell us about yourself hello everyone my name is Medina I'm from Thailand I'm a Jesse fellow under MTT program in today's topic we talked about the Jesse revolution and leaving no one behind as a cornerstone of the resilence and preparedness in WEC so first thing current start off with what is inclusion and inclusion so first the first answer would be the awareness and engagement by the decision in the decision which means that we have the meaningful participation and prepared so we know terms and protocols and that sometimes we don't even know what they need and what is it what is inclusion and what is sorry yeah so the second issue is the addressing power imbalance and the third one quickly and third one would be the resilence and preparedness and fourth one is the leaving no one behind and this we focus not leaving no one behind but more on the focus on the people who has been left behind already and the fifth one is the cross-sectional coordination and balancing the trade-offs which one of the fellow as talking about 13 ministries and thousands of regulation and conflict of interest and that is already in the complex of everything inside already and then moving on to the next session we talked about the strategy or the solutions that we are trying to address the issues so first thing that we talked about is helping people on the ground and trying to help socially and economically development of the poor and also improve or implement the nature-based solutions into the policies and then organize the policy dialogue with the multi-stakeholder and the third one not the third, the last one would be having a meaningful communication-based research to collect data to set the strategies and priorities Okay, that's all. Thank you. Good. Thank you very much, Medina. Can I ask table number three? Good afternoon, everybody. I will present the... Can you tell us more of yourself first? My name is Tan. I'm from Vietnam and in the MTT program I will present the summary of the number in the group three about the roles of water storage management options. In the participant in my group they discussed and gave some solution here that you can see but first one, like when you in the past, the nature basing that they have their own solution and now we like so many people come and do some human activity and then like may be destroy the basing and then we can back to give or find a solution for that. And so the first one is in open corn can if like correctly the community they use a solution like underground water bank to like store the rain water for use for different purposes rather than like and to manage and other issues. And the second one is the monkey check is a natural solution like to regulate the water reason from different area and the third one is not here but like mentioned by our team is like water like is a common term is room for water like in may you know in development city urban planning is quite common especially in the development city and so when we decide the city we have to prepare somewhere else that get flooded during some cases and that's we call room for water and some strategy here that we we get here it's just like in the case of community point that for example like for water supply purposes we try to we can like increase the water efficiency like you know we have water demand and water availability if like water demand increase and water availability it cannot reach that demand so now we can like reduce the water demand by increase the water efficiency and the second one is like we can use some we should input from the community because the community is very important to like manage and operating or everything in management of the point here so we should get some information from the community and the third one we we highlighted it's a power balance because from power balance between the men, women and from majority and minority and this is some highlight from my group the room yeah the next two tables that will share their highlights is table number two good afternoon everyone for the group two as well as technology for the future for the horse can you tell us more about yourself yes for the next for the Dr. Leonie Pearson but for me my name is for the entity fellow for the next technology to be inclusive for the for the design and department next two way construction with technology and inclusive next the target group company of next four two everyone is the responsibility for the government donor private sector yes for the thank you for the group two okay thank you very much and then the last certainly table one okay my name is and good afternoon again so you have been listening to all a lot of solutions and practices in the morning and until now so my group is just I just pick up one highlights approach where you focus on citizen science approach so the approach is what the solution is we think about one is that we want to focus more people because we have been discussed about the people awareness women awareness on understanding climate change so this is the area that we are going to we should do and second point is the connects with state order private sector company NGO think tanks, policy maker especially government and also citizen in their village and also focus on the flexibility adaptive because like you haven't mentioned a lot of policy but you think that it could be work well in the maker region but you have to be aware that each villager they have their own adaptive in terms of climate change so we should we should think about the flexible adaptivity which let people doing let people working for their own as local people to think about what are the methods that have been done to adapt to climate change in their own local methods and also we focus on the roles of government especially the authority local authority the function, the institution in the play which they should because they have the budget because the government have a budget allocation from the government to the local so they can use it to gathering people to work on that and also the last one, the roles of community except which I haven't mentioned earlier if you want to know more clarification, I can ask to detail on that thank you very much Samyang, thank you very much now we're going to show to you how we have visually summarized all of this different discussion that we just had I would like to introduce Desiripam Tofu Collectives or Tofu Creatives to show the summary okay, thank you Albert while you've been discussing we've been listening and illustrating so just to walk you through it a quick visual journey of today's session so for the first group the emphasis on local understanding of issues and citizen science and investing in people and for advancing technologies and equitable inclusive access and everyone is responsible and for water storage management options, consensus building flood water storage, underground water banks for the JETSY solution having a regional vision beyond SDGs having cross sector coordination and addressing power imbalances and for the KBPIOs having a transdisciplinary approach having money on the table having respect, do no harm and looking at benefits for all for the just renewable energy transition having a multi-channel communication the importance of vertical governments and stakeholder inclusion and for other solutions the highlight was on behavior change visibility and the focus on local and traditional nature based solutions so that's a big picture of today's solutions cafe, thank you everyone thanks for that misery now any comments or reactions to all the discussions that we had so the focus was on inclusion and equity with regards to each of the solutions and then you have identified some principles some actions that we should do together to ensure that when we implement these solutions they will be inclusive and equitable any quick reactions comments that you would like to share at this point okay go ahead go ahead only one small thing jumped out as we heard across all the groups is i think that food for thought as we move towards cocktails is that there are some of these ideas that seem to be about the questions that we will ask in our organizations as KBPIOs there were some really good ideas about how we would answer those questions what kinds of research we would do and with whom there were ideas about how we would operate together issues of trust and respect and then what didn't come out but i think is implicit or will maybe come out on reflection is what do we as individuals own in this so what agency do we have what power do we have in our own role as professionals to take all these forward so that was just my quick thought very good addition Cynthia we grew up across to Cynthia so let's think about our role our agency in all of the solutions because certainly we're not actually telling other people to implement this for us but actually this is the thing that we need to go together now can i invite our online participants if there are other reflections can i share is there anyone from our online participants okay i think that's quite clear alright okay now you might be asking what's next right after this what's going to happen so can i invite kuncia ni to tell us about the next steps thank you very much everyone can i request everyone to give big hands to the organizers and also the thought person for these sessions it's really fantastic to see how we can really engage with colleagues working from different sectors different backgrounds and interests in very short moment i think about an hour and we could really come up with so much and also good idea on how we could be more inclusive and you may wonder why we decide these sessions in such way because it really replicate and represent the beauty of having people from different backgrounds and coming together working on different politics but what is really common issues and also common concern we have here as a whole network or alliance is really how we can make sure in any knowledge productions, solutions recommendations really come to participation and inclusiveness and each topics that Dr. Tanaporn presented earlier focusing on AI or water storage or this or that is really representing the need for different sectors and different specific some of them quite technical but all project, all topics we need to ensure that we have people who are part and we have really make sure that we consider how to engage them really meaningfully not only to just how many that we have to tick box but really truly participation truly engagement truly owned whatever the solution that we produce in the future and I want to say again big thanks to everyone for contributing to this session. Personally I have learned a lot and I really appreciate colleagues who contributed either here in kind of panelist talking expressing your view or you talk on the side of the things that really they will reflect in how we communicate and talk with our colleagues sitting beside us and even in the future may email. It will come whoever participate on this online and onsite. I really feel that really owe you so much gratitude for your time and you also your ideas and also even some of the ideas we don't have really the response to the questions but this is really our homework that we will take forward. And in consultation with our colleagues working on this program may come to leadership and think tank network and someone and many others that we are part of as really the inspirations that whatever we do in the future we should make sure that we do a little bit continue what we are good and at the same time challenge ourselves to be doing more and Ellen mentioned very well how we can a little bit more space to extend expand opportunity for research investigations either citizen science that also mentioned by something here or the opportunity for us to engage with civil societies and also in minority and other that some of participant highlighting. This will be also the principle and the idea when we decide the membership of the alliance and also when it comes to our judgment with the futures applications that we will receive by and of this month when it come to flagship studies for research and policies and also lobby respond application for practical solutions these will be taken into a house and I would like to echo through many colleagues sitting in the program community yesterday that when we access the application we are not looking only the best applications not top notch the research publication or anything like that. We also look at opportunity to enhance the capacities in the region that own by the region and for people in the region that is also one of the main issue that I like to emphasize that with that the application that lies to open by end of this month and I see that a lot of really good insights here represented by seven levels from some of it and also for MTG. Let me give a clue how we can be more effective in inclusiveness on each topic and if you have interest to apply and be implementer to fill in the knowledge gap and also addressing the policy demand and practice demand please feel free to take forward on the recommendation here enhancing your applications to meet really the expectation for yourselves, for the partners and also for policy actors and local communities that you will engage with them in the next one year or one and a half year and for component three in particular really learn a lot and how to engage with the colleagues here we will do more next year the meeting with alliance and I think we will actually have probably more participation and let's see how we will decide this but your recommendation, suggestion and also kind of appreciation is really valuable for us for better design and also how to say more inclusive in the future and I would like to invite you to continue kind of observing and also be with us and hopefully in the future become part of our initiative and also our effort and lastly when we come to fellowship I would really much like to say big thanks to all kind of fellows and also all at least us person and who encourage fellows of us here to really represent what we will form all the group members and we will take on this and also look for opportunities for the new batch of the fellows whether we could really place in other organizations and I heard some of the partner at the speakers there seems to be keen also have interest to see and to host or maybe opportunity to collaborate with the fellow or the research fellow in other organization that might also benefit equally not only learning opportunity for fellow but also contributing to the host organizations in long term. So I will stop here and thank you so much for everyone and also for hardworking and deciding this problem. Thank you very much. I promise no where okay we're four minutes over time but we will wrap up in the next five minutes but just right now Shane you want to say something? Yes just very quickly I just wanted to thank everyone for coming but also just to thank SEI for a fantastically organized event today. We can give them a round of applause not only in the policy but also all the back of office work that's gone into today it's been absolutely fantastic. So thank you very much I just wanted to actually address your last question and thank you for all that wonderful information that you've just given us but in terms of the next step the very next step come tomorrow tomorrow we'll have some great discussions around climate and all the other issues we've talked about today so the next step in taking forward today is contributing to the debates tomorrow so I hope to see everyone here tomorrow and joining in. Thank you. Very good, thanks for that Shane. We're not done yet okay so another immediate next step that's going to happen is Karen please tell everyone. So we've just spent the last hour or so talking about inclusion and during the cocktail hour members of the JEDC team and the colleagues here will come with a piece of paper and a marker and ask you what does inclusion mean for you what we'd like you to do is write on a piece of paper what inclusion means for you within this context or within your life we're going to take a picture of that and we're going to upload it into a system and make a slideshow inclusion is critical to this program it's critical to everything that we do and the future of the region and the Mekong so please think right now and when we come up with a piece of paper and a marker don't be surprised we look forward to hearing from you about this thank you. Thanks a lot Karen so I hope you will join so another immediate next step happening soon there will be cocktails later but before that there will be an awarding of certificates for our fellows so the fellows, the scribes who reported earlier you will receive their certificates at 515 and then there will also be an awarding of the of photo story summer net young professional photo story contests so you will see more about this beautiful photos later at that will also happen at 545 okay and last by not least can you all stand up and then can you raise your right hand for summer net and then left hand for the MTT and then fold and then give yourself a pat on the back for wonderful participation to our event thank you very much