 Hello and welcome to another edition of stump the chumps This is your pal Al here. I have a distinguished guests here from the town of town or village We're gonna get to a fight already town the town village seat. We're gonna start already here That's why I'm sitting in the middle of these two guys Here we have Ted Baker from from messics and Ray Reynolds As you can see we're missing Our good friend her but his father passed away earlier in the week and I can't be with us But in the immortal words of her the show must go on so The number to call here a 6239 6 6 we're gonna be asking the questions about the the town village and all the general vicinity of Essex here and You'll be calling up what we're gonna be showing you a film here That's screwed up at the beginning because of technical difficulties We had a hurricane in Essex the other day remember that one right the other day anyways Kevin Maloney, Kevin. Thanks for joining us Okay, my name is Leo Knox and the question I have is what year did IBM move to Essex Junction How many people worked on the assembly line and what are their names? I'm Steve Bortle from the Essex VFW first question was Train going from Essex Junction to Cambridge with what year did the train go off the tracks and Underhill second question. Who's the last post commander of 40s now and camp John? 40s now I'm Michael Vian and I have three questions at all for our people the number one question is What is the oldest house today existing in Essex Junction? The second question is relating to sports and When was the Essex Junction varsity football team? Formed and the third question is who was their coach Okay, my name is Susan Vaughan I'm a member of the ladies auxiliary here at Essex Junction And I'd like to know in reference to a question that was earlier asked about Murray's tavern Before it was used as a tavern or a restaurant. I'd like to know what the original use of the building was Question number two is when did the grandstand at the fairgrounds burn? And question number three is in reference to a question that was earlier asked about five corners I'd like to know when it changed from four to five corners, and I'd like to know what the fifth road was Oh My name Steve Vutan. I'm from the Essex Junction VFW for 6689 and I have a few questions What was the last three in Essex Junction to be paid? Question number two The last show that they had at the grandstands in Essex Junction before it burned down. There's a show there that day and the year that Robinson Gas station left the five corners where the Chittenden Bank is now Another question Where did teach-outs get their start? What part of Essex Junction? In the name of the hardware store that was located right across from teach-outs same years And what was the the last year that the girly shows are at the Essex Junction fairgrounds and the name of the black headliner That was there for so many years There now how do you like them bananas folks? That's the beginning of this month's edition of stump the chumps now It's up to you as I want to thank our participants in these opening questions It's up to you to call us here at 8 6 2 3 9 6 6 With answers to those questions or more questions of your own to challenge us and to question us with some more on This month's edition of stump the chumps from Essex Junction Pones are ringing already as you can see the participation was was excellent up there at Essex Junction Ray you get any Lemmy Adam line one well hold on one second Hello, you're on the air How you doing, Bill? I've got a question for the gentleman here I don't believe Lincoln ever stated Lincoln it and if he did I want to conclude that evidence that he did That's the rumor that he just called the Lincoln in because Lincoln had stayed there one time or something You didn't hear that from me. I bet That's what rumor is the round-tall one of the way. I'll see now. You get what was he dragged into here? Yeah, and it's not why do they call it Lincoln it? Why do they call it the Lincoln in? Well, they want to get it after a famous man. I Know a Vilmer built it Hey More complicated than that that I don't know Okay Was there we had something in the in the discussion the other day about the Lincoln in the front of the Lincoln in what was the construction Well, it was a big lawn where the gas station there's an owl and Really, you look beautiful It's too bad. There's purely de mirrors is the one that Bought the Lincoln in and changed it and put the gas station in there That was originally with a show gas station And that was done by pearly de mirrors and then pearly still owns or his wife I guess his widow still owns the Agway Gas station today wasn't there rumor. I heard rumor that they used to ice skate out in front of the Lincoln in There's that when it was yes, yeah, that's correct. Yeah, I did Okay, then well, thank you, Bill. Oh, he never stopped there. All right Thank you. Right Yes, you're on the air Hey, hi Not right off the bat. No Okay, okay Yes Very good. What year was that? Yeah, that seems to be a complicated question exactly what year that was that's that's a bottle of banal for the answer to that one there I think of 64 it was If anybody's got the exact date on that particular thing we did we do know now There's a rodeo. He punched me because I knew and he didn't but that's that's beside the point Find out what the year that the The fire was and I got agreed with with Ted that it was around 64 65 somewhere in that vicinity but somebody's got to know the exact date Okay, thank you. Yes, mate Okay, I got a couple of questions. I'm gonna fire out here that Again totally oblivious of what took place in Essex except for Well, I can't say that on the area. My mother's watching happy 70th birthday today to mom. I'm not allowed to say that You want to say hi to anybody at the quality bake shop? We're not allowed to say quality bake shop. So don't say it on the air Well, I can't say the quality bake shop From the BFW in Essex. Oh, thanks. Oh A new thing added to our To our prize package outside of the hats that have been going so well and the banal that's been going so well We've got the five-year beach pass for the Essex Municipal Beach What do you think of that I think that'll be a big hit. We got plenty of them, too Okay Questions who is the first general manager of IBM? One of the ones I've got and what eatery was located in the parking lot next to whipples and Name the officer who captured a man on the 10 most wanted list. I believe it was in the 50s And I want to know that person's name and who the truck was And also who owned the Essex Publishing Company and One of my sentimental favorites was the business in downtown Essex that gave away combs ashtrays Actually, we're not going to show them to you right off pens Pencils, what else did they give away right? Combs? Combs? Okay, number to call 8 6 2 3 9 6 6 Ted you got any questions for these people out there Who brought who were built the Brownell block and what year okay who built the Brownell block what year? Then oh Yeah, I mean the Ray rather. Well, that's a I'm sorry Bob. Go ahead 1994 right And who built it same brown out Okay You got any questions for him out there, you'll get a small list out there. Well, I got a couple of them here there's a pizza Suzy Wilson Road And what was that formerly before this pizza? Okay, go ahead one more sure. We're out a couple more. Okay, um Well, let's see Duke Duke Hewler It's gonna station up on 15 there and that and what was that formerly? Okay Okay Hello, you're on the air. Hi. I have an answer to one of your questions. Okay about the pizza hut. Yes I'm Suzy Wilson Road. Mm-hmm. That used to be Joey purposes water bed, which used to be read slaughterhouse Before that please Remember is to read Before that history Sounds sounds coming over that one You got another question for us I got another question for you though No, I won't ask it. We promise we won't do this Suzy Wilson Road things starting to get to us nevermind Thanks for calling right Okay Yes, you're on the air. Hey, you're doing tonight. Good. I get a question for you I don't have the answer how someone can tell me gonna one of us alight here then Okay, that sounds good. Can you tell me when the last train left the circus off at the Six five corners and created up to the fairgrounds. What year was that the fair used to come in by train? Well, I'm gonna it's gonna be about 19 About 1950 to 52 that's not about right 1950 to 52. I didn't know what that sounds good. Thank you very much Okay, thanks for calling That was world of mirth Hello, hey, yes That service station that was mentioned on 15 used to be a Sonoco Yeah, but before that before that the dealer is way back He's got his way back machine out now. Let's go back into the 40s Maybe the 30s For But I can barely barely remember being a chicken farm who owned it who owned the Who owned those chickens right big law? Was it was there a name of the Lose chickens Yeah, that was the chicken marm he and I played baseball against each other And you played baseball against everybody Kid we is preparing them kill chickens You got something to stomp us with Oh, yeah, what was the last reported to count them out in the Essex area? We all had the same into that one No, it's before 1900 for my time Well, you got us on that one you get an answer or were you just pulling that one out of your hat Okay, thanks for calling Oh Well, that was a lady lived on the corner where you turn on the Suzy Wilson and She was married to Fritz Kripzer and She was a housewife Suzy Wilson rode in 15. Yeah, that's innocent enough. That's yeah Well, let's back in the 30s and before the corner was taken out there with a house right there in the porch Perhaps a four feet from the from the highway route 15 and Fritz and and Mrs. Kripzer used to set out on the porch as I went by when I was a kid Then they tore the house down to make the road better to turn on the Suzy Wilson road Thank you my colleague After her She lived there She lived there on that corner and they just she I guess she was brought up around there But she lived on that corner. She married Fritz Kripzer and Teddy and I have a little difference on that on the nationality But Fritz Kripzer was a I have him as a German Swiss but To my knowledge he was a German you I remember I remember Fritz Kripzer with a white-haired and That was concerning with an old German person and a very nice old man And it was hard to call that Fritz Kripzer wrote because it'd be hard for you to say yeah, he wasn't a lot easier Let's get off that one yes, you're on the air Three of you I know all three of you. Do you know I am no keep going he's got a so far Relative of someone, you know And we're not related so some of this isn't gonna be involved. I don't know Is this flip Wilson I know it easy was related sure sure Terrific, okay, thanks for calling. Okay. Bye Okay, we get off that subject fast here, okay, why don't you go raise brought some things in here that you might want to explain here and I would have no questions on these. Well, okay, then fire out your question on those things this This was bottled in ethics junction at one time and I like to probably ask why the location was Canada dry non skid bottle Well, the drugs could hold on to what's better there that the good grips on it was Produced and it was bottled and that's extension. Okay, so we want to know the location of the bottling Plant in in Essex. That's right. Okay. This is my favorite here. The other you like that one. Yeah Another one on that one No, okay, let's go this one. We're ready for lesson this What I'd like to know is probably Where this originally was produced this Where the location of this milk producing plant was and it was in that's extension and a Spot that a Lot of people probably remember Yeah, that it has the original cap on it, too. I think that's a short eyes Ethan Allen People with no fingernails would go thirsty awful fast when they did. Oh gosh, sure what? Okay, so we go further with this Let me get these out of the way before I throw these out of the way. We got another caller here In Essex right now where the Essex beverage is let's go back further or not. Oh, man. He's way back there I'm gonna go back further than that Bakery first or what is that building? Passes bakery and fix your all that we'll have another question for you in a minute on that one I could ask you to be there. That's the old high school. Oh, well, I'm behind. That's the Park Street school now That was your high school right, but okay All right, thank you. Yes, you're on the air Dry bottling plant was on Jackson Street. You agree with that. Yeah, okay That's correct They're trying to give away hats here they I don't think she wants them hanging around here anymore Yes, if you'd stopped interrupting me over there If you get a question to stump us with or it's your husband got one That was there Likely like me over 20 years Then a long time but I can't I can't answer exactly there's a long time when I cut it Well, I think they stoned us you get the answer Okay, boy, that's a bottle of vanilla. That'll be our first one here. Yeah, do you use this stuff? It's good for everything you can polish your car with it Here's a hat to wipe the car down with Thanks for coming Okay Ted fire I'm out some more questions out there Give a couple more Lincoln Hall Okay, who built it What year built the Lincoln Hall? Yeah, poor Ray Reynolds, huh? Oh, yes, well done. Here we go. Here you go, Ray. Now go ahead. You're on Yes, yes Yes, thanks I can't answer it. I don't know I wasn't here. I wasn't here at that time. So I hear the train rack in 1915 Well, you got me stumped. I don't know You know who it was probably a scribe father You know who you're talking to here. No, no, that's always handy, too You guys been there long Yeah, that's another that's good for a hat that's Okay, who is this person? Oh You're not the one to get killed in the 1910 accident, are you? 1911 who was this person we're supposed to know or race bulls in them actually The train actually did we ask about the Yeah, no, I probably do know when I can't And the train the railroad going from Essex Junction to Cambridge BNL but BNL we're gonna say John's very long coming From Essex to Cambridge that was I always do it as a BNL And that's the one that went off the track BNL, yes Thanks for calling What was that train question we had what when the train went off the tracks and under hill? That was asked the knee in the thing there how many years did it take to get that train the rest of the train out of that? We had a discussion about that too. How long how many years it took him to haul that crap out of there? It happened in 1920 Again way before my time my knowledge is still an engine in there between Wayne King's Resonance and And Unveiled there's a there's still an engine in there and that Swamp in there with the beating they're taking four years to get the rest of the stuff out eventually in summer I think that was mentioned for I can't really say Yes, you're on here hello Yeah The train rack how many years it took him to get the wreckage out of that still there Ray was saying that the possibility of the engine is still in there it is and it Rumor has it took him at least four years to get the rest of it. You know the approximate location on that it's right across from Harry Destromes the Fish Hacker It is on way what things come up I knew it was in there. Okay. Oh, you're agreeing with it. Yeah. Oh, okay. I don't know when he's agreeing with it Wow, that's an engine in there. I told you that the other day You think it'll be worth some scrap is it under water or something like that? Is it I would say it's down in the mud and good shit Well, thanks for coming We have somebody online one yet still Hello, yeah, yes What route did they take From Burlington to Essex you're dying. Yeah, what's who the wake-up farm leave? Well, isn't that there today? You can still see the bed down there This north of the airport This part of the airport is an old bed that runs through there that is come in Essex Along the river. Yep. Yep. Yep. Oh my river called road. Maybe. Yeah Right, right north of dual landfill White Street Hmm, okay Then once you hit him on another question there, this could be another it's gonna be another half question here Murray's bar on Near the depot What was that before it was a bar clear back? Yes Yes Yes I believe well, what if I get for an answer? What have you guys got for the answer? We both wouldn't we all went through that Hold on I got a look at my cheat sheet Yeah, I don't know. No, that's not the way. Yeah, I've got a Colonel monohand that's on right. No And I guess the question that was asked on that thing was who's the last post commander at 40th and Allen I don't know. I've got a Colonel monohand anybody's got the What they think is the answer I could lie this Donnie One of our other guests here Yes, you're on the air Murray's time and livery stable who is it's all right right now. That's the spirit give it back to her Who ran that livery stable do you know no I don't but I do know that there are painted murals still on the wall Hmm Huh a most Fisher ran it Clear back clear back. Is that farther than way back? Yes, we're back You're in a story about the the horses and that was that the livery stable with the party for a month No, no no no Well, you must'll tell that story too about the fire stations around in that Visibility you one of the early fire stations Where was one of the early fire stations? I mean early An epic junction you're dying a horse drawn or horses Okay This would be back in this before 1920 and what's there today? Oh, yeah a dress shop We asked the question The last street was in Essex. It was the last street to be paid mine. What guess you're on the air That's great Months his restaurant. No, that's down the street from that building go down the street, right? That's not they it's not that where the fire station was that's down the street where The restaurant was and well, probably I should have questioned a few minutes. What was the name of that food place? That's correct Well, anyone else I got me for a minute. Let me thank this for a minute here. That would be 19 That would be about 1981-82 Should be correct on that one. I make a pattern. I think you're correct on that one. Yeah, I own the building Nothing's fair gonna get my hat anyways here That's a good question Question I'd have to be in the 20s along the 30s Early 30s. I'm gonna guess before that before that. You think so. Oh, yes Who had the story of how they operated that I mean I Do with it Horses were kept back in Lincoln Hall in a barn by Ernie Martin And when the fire was a little blow on top of the Lincoln Hall They'd run the horses over back a man drop the harnesses and the gold man never lost a cell a hole A good tradition a proud tradition Number to call 86 to 3966 Well, we got a money here Ray bots brought some pictures Fairly interesting pictures. This is a good time to do this too late. She's already on it Maybe you want to explain that ray which we're what we're looking at here and well this is a store downtown in Essex and I don't need my son in audience And this is the building downtown as it was then and You'll notice the street is not paved and you'll notice a lot of firing machinery there And you also I'd like to know if anybody knows a reflection of that burn in that window Can you get that on the camera? Can't you there's a burning on the window on your left in that left big window? There's a barn and what was that barn and where is it today now that? Building is existing But it doesn't look the same Where is it? What is it? Well, what is it today? And what is that barn? That's the question Ray? Why don't you give them a little? something on it because What street it's on now? We'll be leaving here. Ray doesn't want to be leaving. No, they're gonna stump me. I want to come I found in our conversations the other night that In both of them are involved here Ray owns a building that that I grew up sort of grew up with and Here comes here comes well We'll get back to the minute and Ted has something to do with it back in the 20s or 30s things When we talk about the Brown building here, they see oh, yeah, right? Well, we take this phone call and we'll get back around 1920 Yes, you're on the air I was gonna say that maybe tip tops down there the picture Speak up a little bit Down by Henry's market that building tip top. Yeah tip top is on railroad Right, that's not the building. No, okay. You stump me. Thanks for calling get them there And I've seen the other pictures and I still don't know where it is Figure it out Mine, too. There we go. Yes. Hi. How are you good the question about the building? It's on Main Street. That's the cross from Henry's market right next to what is now show time Mm-hmm Your clothes, but that's not the exact building. It's not the exact bill. No, you're close Okay, you're getting warm and you're handing them. Thanks for calling. You're handing them at least a hand now Yes Yes, there you go Sorry about that. Hello. Yes Yeah, that building is the one up for work where show time is used to be Hopefully hardware there you go before Ray Reynolds took it over and redid it You know him do you know That I do who we who we speaking to Matt Stevens. Oh, come on Is that a fair one is that his his his father ran a appliance store in The next building where we just spoke of of the old fire station was the fire station. That's right. Your dad run that. Yes You got it Matt. Okay. Thanks for calling. All right, Mike That was kind of an issue. I Want to give him a hand why not? I don't want to throw in your bottle there And a white man He deserves it Getting back to what we were talking about there's a building in again, it was a fire machinery place Ray now owns it and Ray, why don't you go into What was in there when we talked about the fire machinery place and then have Ted pick up where where you They met something you and you're your younger years. I joined me When At the time he brown and when he bought it I want to watch this guy when it was built give the C Brown building story and then when I got back to Where Ted was involved didn't kind of build that building Dr. I don't know. I don't think so. I think I'm not sure I think so could be why they're arguing there We're talking about the C but the old C Brown building which in my childhood was the international harvester Dealer and they'll spend a lot of time there and but prior to that they have a history of this and and again part of it Ted is very familiar with and I guess Reminiscent of I guess. Oh, yes with the building Mr. Brown rented it about 1939. I believe it was and then around 1940 Mr. Brown bought the building and Run the conducted a international harvester business there tractors ram tractors machinery and so forth and until the Year that I bought it and I bought the building from Mr. Brown and from Charlie his brother and 1960 1980 83 I believe it was and during that period of years there was a A couple things in which Teddy wants to pick up what was in that building. I think you got a question there Dad, okay, what do we hold off? We got a we got somebody on the phone. Hold on to that. We're gonna get it in there Yeah, yeah, yes, you're on the air. Yeah, you know what the snorkel station is But on the railroad tracks right there on Main Street Bill Buggies, okay across the street Edvin Cyrus had a drugstore there for a while Yeah, I'm back 10 15 20 years. Maybe that's right Before that it was the post office Yeah, okay in the post office left But what did they leave inside the building? I mean they left something that was rather unusual Yes, it was they leave three employees in there for four years. No, that's not a story Okay, that's gonna story on it when I was the assessor I went up there I'm a top floor and a pig ran out of the other room I said just where'd he come from boy? He's our pet So I told the owner that he was there just in case he Tackled him, you know, that was kind of funny. Was that your answer a pig? Sure I wonder about that You know where that safe is now somebody eventually took it out of there, I bet That's a factual I don't know as far as I say still being there as a building star. I guess it's building still there then There was a grocery store there Yeah, yeah, but I didn't know what you know about me. They let me the safe there They think I heard something about yeah Did you know about the pig? Maybe a nightmare about the sweater So we still still think that's safe sir That they had left it. Yeah, okay. Okay. Thanks for calling All right, right What sweater don't get on now you don't want to get on it. He's trying to get them in trouble here Okay, now you're gonna finish the story about before see you brown. I'll say it on that in that What was there before see brown? I think you gotta go right into it. Wow. That was a theater and Move movies was you know a lot of Wild West shows and all that and Then they put on plays a fellow by the name of green Bernal came to town with a side show I might say and he used any married a girl of messics and He coached these shows it was put on by different groups methods this church But with two or three on and he called them the minstrels another show was local people Had a lot of fun That was in a couple of them were you Big-time stuff here What was the name of the theater I wanted when it was out there follow them when it was your own bit You know I got a bill mayor has to be a bill mayor. No. No. No, it was a love alley That was the other guess I was gonna have Okay, he's also gonna see brown pencil here and unused of course he's got a pocket full of stuff here And again that was from the the farm all The cork daring during farm machineries and implements I'll tell you how old it is the telephone number was three three five Okay, line one. Yes, you're on the air. Yeah. Tell me where the first jail was Why would I know about a jam? Yeah, I know where it is. Yeah, I do yeah It's a corner of Maple Street where you turn in to go to Parkstown that little yellow green building whatever it is little health there The jailer lived upstairs, yeah You're gonna give him a hand here. Yeah, we'll give him one already. Oh, yeah, that's Dave How many how many cells was in that deal do you know that for a fact you Here on the air yes Haggadourn where was he was across the tracks where bushy is Right now right by that river Yeah, that's where bushy is today Ethan on cream it was there in behind another building and the question is what was the building in the front of Ethan Alan Kramer. There was a it was a business there Matt Stevens. They are there There was this there was it is that where the cream he was cream rain. Yes, that's correct But behind bill bushy's but where in the front where bill bushy station is there was a There was a store. What was the name of the store? This is for a hat now or a bottle banalgar and Essex municipal I was in the front and that's he's now agreement was in behind And and That was correct that's one of the questions I asked and thank you that was it. Thank you You guys gonna fight yeah First A&P and that's extension. Where was it? I almost remember that should I also remember that who was he in the old railroad station? There was a Station agent a lot of station agent, but there was a restaurant in there was run by a certain large man Who was he and his son today is a Looks like his dad and he's a lot of publicity about him in the paper Was he Yes, you're on the air That's correct very good Who was one of the employees that worked there, you know Who else All right, you got it I got it Fletcher was there before Fletcher was there before Have you got a question for us I see us Yeah, there you go now Stephens John Okay, John, thanks for going right Yes, you're on the air About the A&P store. Yes before it where it is now it's over Where the team center next to the Lincoln in and before that it was over across from the old railroad station Hey, pretty good. Yeah, who was the man that run that store? Do you remember that? Who was the man that owned it and run it for A&P or he? We have to ask my dad on that he used to sort bottles there They used to have returnable bottles back then it's very good That's where the attorney's office is today. Yeah, and now who was that man that run that store is the next question I'd like I stole an apple there when I was a little boy Okay, thanks for calling Yes, you're on here Did anybody answer that question about the store that was in front of the eastbound creamery? Yes. Oh, yes, they did my oh Do you know what it was? My do you know what it was? What was it again? No before that. Oh, well, I don't go back that far Well, he's an angel in a cell vestige Okay, so that's just market Happy birthday my I like embarrassing her. That's what mothers are for Anyways, don't tell her I said that Okay Ted you're being quiet again. Give me a couple more questions out there Where was the first piece of cement put out in the village of Essex? The first piece of cement. Yeah, we're old Short very short. Was it a slab to lay out one of the drunks out? No, no, they didn't have many in those days I hear on the air. Yeah, one of the questions was what year did IBM come into town? Mm-hmm 57 What are the parts of those questions where there was a certain figure of the original? Group that was on the line not the office people on us up at the the grunts on the line How many were there that first week? Do you have any idea? 13 is correct now. What's her name? I'll pull it out here. What's it? No way. I don't know it was built by GBIC and And then it was empty for a while then IBM came in but I don't remember the name and I remember it real well Okay, have you you got another one? All right, I got one. Oh, he's gonna hit you with one. I want to know I want to know Who the man was what his name was it used to sell papers for the merit for the Berlin free press He was a salesman for the Berlin from free press and he circulated around Essex and Adjoining towns and he was a known man to sell the Berlin free press and the free press In those days of about eight dollars per year And my father always wanted to know why it was free. He couldn't see nothing free about it But who was the man at soul? Sold a subscription to that Berlin free press. Well, I have no idea on that one How long ago was that what year was that? Well, we're gonna talk back into the 30s and 40s Oh for a while time Well, there must be somebody out there. No, that comes up. Oh, okay. No, thanks for calling. All right, but like Thank you. Yes, you're on the air Oh boy, I know what that is All right, Dave go ahead not Dave. Hey, man, I know who it is Oh, you got me on that one my father wrote up and I can't I should know but I I'm sorry I can't put my finger on that but that would be that would be in the 30s, but they I Don't I can't answer and I'm sorry, you know Shouldn't know that too. No, I can't remember. It's too stumps. You got it. Yeah, you know, I don't do three at the end No, I don't think they're cuddling over there. I got one for you all on your own there. Yeah, you own the house What year was that? You own the house was one of the first It was a fallout shelter and you owned it and Where was that house tell them Yeah, who put in the fallout shelter Who was the contractor built the fallout shelter Yeah, that's your house No, he went into it boomed there. Is this a commercial rate. No, I want to know what the contract was But he he's got a fallout shelter and I want to know who built the fallout shelter. That's a simple question Thank you for the time of the Bay of Pigs. Oh, I know who No, no, you're wrong stumped again Yeah Is adding up fast Well, you got to tell me you're calling the stump me you stumped me twice now I want to know about that fallout shelter home the house I didn't I'm not saying it was built for you. It was built before you for the guy of the name of Chudley What was his life that Chudley what? He worked IBM and he was he wasn't scared for himself He was scared for his wife and kids and he couldn't wait to have that building was an awful hurry, but he wasn't scared Who the building was No, I Want to know what the contact was put that in there. Who was it good? Let him off the hook. You're looking at him I knew it Ted was dead out in right ten minutes. Yeah, he can't he can't get over get John commercials We get some of the online one, okay, well, thanks for calling give him another give another shot there before we're done here Well, let's see who was hold on a second. Wait a second Hello here on the air Can I take one of it jewelry There you're on your own. Yeah, well, I started way back my my grandfather worked there and that goes right back Gee, I think what's the late 1800s when it started and My my grandfather worked there my father worked there and it was owned by Drury all those years was Max and Harris was the head of it and then it painted down to a had you boy and then it was sold to Den's more brick company on the Hampshire and then they fizzled out and then I guess that was in it, but the pollution control was the cause of it mainly cause of it for being discontinued because they The burning of the kilns to dry the brick cure the break they had to discontinue it That would be Not really, but I'm gonna move on. I don't I don't know I'm gonna say in the I'm gonna say around 1963 I'm gonna guess it and the guy that built the I used to work with the man that built the the round kiln and The bricklayer built that round chrome the kiln was Gilbert P. Shee and I worked with Gilbert an awful lot during the years and about Beehive I call it a beehive. Yeah, you know the beehive had it was round and had the ovens all around it and and that was I'm gonna say in the early 60s that that was discontinued Correct, I beg your pardon that the whole all the buildings the one not set idle for a while Yeah, a while yeah, then more only then my brick company on the Hampshire they bought it from jury And they then it they closed it up discontinued it Thank you for calling Hmm well don't say anything when I haven't got any calls here herbs not here to yell at you know Nobody's answered that that we only got a couple of sports questions here But one of them that nobody seemed to have the answer to was what year did Essex Junction start varsity football and who was their coach? And you've got a semi World War two sports question that you stumped me Well, almost on me. I got it on the second thing But why don't you I want to know what year the the varsity football program started? What was their coach and then Ted's got the question on the World War two? Sports personality don't let me forget already. Oh, I got a program them again, right? He's on the football You're not gonna answer that one. I want to know to ask him the question on the on the Well, he wasn't the recruiter, but he was the Selective service He's forgotten already. Oh Ray Collins. Yeah, that's the answer Tell me what Ray Collins with for people that don't know Ray Collins is it was in the in the Boston Red Sox pitcher along at the same time as Babe Ruth and Larry Gardner The famous Berlin the personality that we've talked about before. What was his job Ted in Essex during the world? Go back. He coached you VM for a while And he helped green Bernal coach the Essex high school team when I played he was a tough nut and but nevertheless you learn or a good out one of the other and I Learned a lot about baseball from him. I never could throw him where he told me to but we nevertheless I tried He was quite a guy and his job during the war was oh he was on the gas business oration gas Yeah, I guess he didn't make too many friends on there But it's one of those jobs will never be a popularity club Wasn't he also part of the selective service? Oh, yes. Yeah, he was on that and what did he used to do out in the streets? Yeah, you go ahead Ray. Why? Ray Collins he was he walked with a cane and 1940 to 41 he was after every able-bodied young man for the for the selective service in the army and he stayed in the window, which is now the part of Lincoln Hall and he He's standing the window and if a young man went down the sidewalk of the street Hobble out with his cane and stop him and asked who he was what his name was and where he was from and then within short order he was usually inducted him into the army and That was what Ray Collins did his farm is that he lived in Colchester and he lived The next farm down the hill farm, which is today Amy Ploof But the next farm beyond that is the old Ray Collins farm And he was with the boss Red Sox again and they're guiding the whole group of them. They played together Okay We've got about five minutes to go here. I want to mention That next month her but Herb and I'll be on the film trail again into into Burlington. We're going back into Burlington We've also decided that we're going to do another one of ski show I can't say when and we will do a film version like we did in Burlington The beginnings of the old buildings in Essex also These are future dates that we're not gonna hash around and you're gonna remind me what day we're gonna be next month 15th on a Wednesday same time same bat channel same everything She's got something else on her mind there, too Okay, you ready for You're on here Yes Who was the first boat the Little League in Essex Junction? Well, you're the start and who's the code? Yeah, right She's a lot of water gone over the dam since I came up. Oh It was probably Guessing now, I know the answer. Oh, yeah. Well, you probably know what better than I do. I'd have to guess. Oh Well, he's thinking in there You do you have any idea on that football question on who the coach was and what year that started on that, huh? No, I have no idea Baseball man, huh? Not a Yankee fan. Are you? I Need to be a Yankee fan and a giant fan in the same year He's safe from over here. You really got him stumped. I mean You're actually doing math over here. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's about 58 years ago Which was when? Well, it would be 1956 Oh, okay, this whole thing 1948 and 1948 who was the code? Oh, who was the first code? Richard Nichols, I'll be done. Sure. He was down far when I was his assistant Who we got on the phone here? I'm right here. Yeah, John Baxendale. Oh, John Thanks a lot quick reminder the Winnicki school groundbreaking ceremonies that we're saying is coming on on next I Hear a yep way in the background And that's gonna be some What have we got here? Wellington City Council 7 to 1150 Don't you do anything at a normal time here? Sure There's another call for it all your fans are coming out quickly next After this a new Winnicki school Brown groundbreaking ceremony and 7 to 1150 the Burlington City Council for and three-quarter hours That's hard to read Who are you anyways? Oh Well, I mistook a girl for a boy In that little league you paid for that event. Oh, yeah, I went to see her father and I said I want to This kid to play on my team. I said, where is he? Well, he says that's a girl I forgot now, but gosh Oh Take a guess. We're running out of time. Well, it was in the 50s Who was it? We got about 30 seconds But before that right no, I think it was later than that I think it was the early 70s before girl actually played in the essence junction a little league Now who is this speaking place? It was time to show Myself and Martha Prank out for the first two girls to play an episode okay, we're losing it. We've lost it Okay, but you guys are great. Thanks for college. Thank you. Bye. Thank you. Yes. Thank you very much gentlemen