 We made it to Thursday. Thursday is our Friday. So that is why the smiles are extra big today. And this morning, welcome to Run It Back. My name is Michelle. Lou Will, Danny Green, Sean Shirania from Chicago. He and I got the memo. We are ready to go. We had regular games back in action last night, you guys. Wow. The Clippers era has begun beating the Nuggets 111, 102. And Yolkich did have a triple double. Paul George with 25 and 8. As I said, Yolkich with a triple double 22, 15 and 10. Afterwards, Ty Lou said that the Clippers have found who they are and that it was a big step in the right direction. Do you agree? I agree with the big step. I don't know finding who they are this early. I think they still need some more games to get more of a rhythm. This was a big win for them, for sure. But considering the fact, Yolkich had a really, I would say, off night for him. And Jamal Murray is still fresh. We're getting back and finding himself. But this still is a big win. But I don't think Denver is at full strength. But they're in a right direction. I think it's going to take some more time for them to find who they are, because it isn't consistent with, you know, Ruskin off the bench, his minutes. James finding and picking his spots and shooting. Obviously, Jamal Murray wants him to shoot more. We talked about that. So I think there's still going to be some time for them to find themselves. I love the fact that Jamal Murray, I don't even know how this came to be. But he said he really does think James Harden should shoot more. What's he doing? Look, if the Clippers beat me and James Harden takes 10 shots and you go out after the game and say, I would like for him to shoot more, sounds like sabotage to me. I don't think he's genuinely concerned about what the Clippers are doing and who's taking what shots at what points of the game. This sounds like Jamal Murray wants this to be beneficial for the Denver Nuggets. I think it's also the fan and Jamal seeing James being James. It's a different look to seeing James being so passive. I do think he wants to win the game. Of course he does. He's telling James to shoot more, but I think it's just weird for him to see James in that role and less aggressive as himself and with the Clippers. Wait, if you were James Harden and an opposing member of the team said that, would you take it as an insult? Yeah. Okay, so you'd be, this would be something you'd. Depends on how they say it. Depends on context. Yeah. Depends on context and tone, but if I'm James, I'm giving Jamal Murray one of these. What you mean by that? Why are you talking about me at all? Why you care? I kind of love it. It's a nice little moment. Jokic, as we mentioned, it was an off night. Still had the triple double, but he was 9 of 32. That 23 misses thing is the worst so far for him. It's not anything to worry about. I mean, that's just an off night. By the way, an off night for Jokic is still a triple double. That's something. No, he's very good. Obviously Clippers have been playing well defensively. That's the one thing they have been doing since the trade. And last night they showed that they're capable of playing that end of the floor. So I think it's something positive to take from them playing great defense on him and some other teams can look at that to maybe take something from the Clippers against him. But ultimately, I think there is no stopping Jokic. He just had an off night. And watching this game, I felt like he was getting shots that he normally does. And a lot of those were misses, put backs, little bunnies, little jump hooks, shots that he usually makes. I thought this was a bad night. And then once he, he started the game 0-7. After that, if you're a scorer, if you're one of those guys that the team is looking for you to score, getting up to a slow start, you're going to start chasing a little bit, trying to get your easy bucket. And it just wasn't going his way. So this stat line, it's pretty bad. But I just think that was a product of him trying to right the ship and get back on the right track after starting so slow. Shoot himself out of it somehow. All last year we talked about there's no way to defend him. There has to be a way. But what is it? Well, he's such a good passer. It's hard to double and triple him. So when you have the good, he has that many pieces, weapons around him that are that dangerous. It's impossible. The only way to guard him is if you lose those pieces. Those pieces around him. Take them out. Well, maybe they found some. Make him be the primary scorer. Take away his passing lanes. Maybe not trap him. That's stopping them, but not necessarily him. Correct. So you just let him go and then deal with everybody else? Yeah. If you're trying to stop Yoakich, it's probably going to be impossible. But if you go into a game and say, hey, we can live with him going to get 30-35 points, but these other guys are going to have to play under that and limit some of their touches. I think you give yourself an opportunity. So I don't know. Maybe the Clippers found something. That's according to Tyloo. They figured it out. He had missed 13 of his last 14 with the hamstring and ankle injuries. Jamal Murray, though, was back. Shoms, talk to me about the impact he has on his team. I mean, he has a massive impact. 23.6 assists in 29 minutes last night. For the Nuggets, it's just about getting Jamal Murray through the regular season, getting him healthy. We know what he does in the playoffs. 26-25 points per game score come playoff time around 17 points over his career in the regular season. So when the lights are brightest, you know he's going to step up. But for Jamal Murray, what I've noticed and I think it's clear is he likes to be 100% ready and he likes to be 100% on the floor. He took him three, four weeks to manage through this hamstring injury. A couple of years ago, I remember he was pretty much cleared to return from an ACL. But for him, it's impacting the team at a high capacity. He wants to play when he's 100% and he's able to give it his all. We saw last night, even though he played less than 30 minutes, he played at a high level. He's the closer on a lot of nights. So getting Jamal Murray healthy through the regular season, getting him into the playoffs, that's going to be the biggest thing for the Nuggets. Another game last night, Nets Hawks. This one was a thriller. Came down to the wire, Nets defeat the Hawks. 1-14, 1-13. But Trey Young misses the final shot. We'll get to that here in a second. There were big shots from Bridges and Trey down the stretch. 43 lead changes in this one. It's the most since the NBA actually started tracking that back in 96. Bridges finished with 32. He was 12-19. Trey Young with 30. But of course, the final play of the game. We're going to look at it again because Trey misses it, but he thinks he's called. He should be getting a call for a foul here. And I want y'all's opinion on whether or not he was actually fouled. I got to get it. I don't see it. I don't see it. Maybe the bump. I think his speed and the inertia was taking him out of off his balance, but I don't see contact there. It looked like a pretty clean play, a great defensive play. And that point in the game, referees, I think, are not going to call unless it's very blatant, depending on who you are. I mean, Trey is a superstar. But I didn't see anything significant enough to where you make a decision as a referee at that point. Yeah, it's marginally at best. I feel like for the game right here, I would like for Trey to go get a straight up shot instead of a little foul bait. Yeah, not even leave it in the referee's hands, especially with the reputation that he has is just going at referees. Just go get a bucket. Who's going to stop Trey Young right there at the top of the key from going to get a bucket if he just really puts his mind to it and decides not to even worry about going to get a foul. And so I don't know, it's debatable, but it didn't look like much to me. No, but it did look like a heck of a flop. I mean, he flew all the way to out of balance. That's pretty good. So that's what, yeah, don't even put it in a position where it's questionable. No, don't, don't, don't, don't. Look, they lost in the first round last season. We all remember that right now. They're nine and 11, which puts them in the 10 spot in the East. Would you consider, I know it's early. Everything I asked from here on until March, I'm going to say, I know it's early, but is it disappointing so far, Lou? I would say so. You know, this team was built to win. They're not in a rebuild. They're not built to be a 500 basketball team. You know, they brought in Quinn Snyder, which is the proven coach that knows what he's doing. You get rid of Kevin Horder and, you know, you put your chips in Dre Hunter's hands. And so this is a team that you go out and get Dijante Murray last year. So this is a team that's put the pieces in order for them that they felt like would make them successful going down a stretch of seasons and were built to win. And so for it not to be coming into fruition for this group, I would say they're off to a disappointing start. Yeah. I mean, I agree because the expectation is to get better each year. Right. And I don't think, I think they've kind of been, they've made a lot of moves. They've made some trades. They've gotten some additions to help Trey, get off the ball some. They got the pieces they wanted. They're not rebuilding. They brought in pieces to win and be a playoff team. They were in the Eastern Conference Finals, not a couple of years ago. And since then, I feel like they got, I wouldn't say progressively worse. They've got, they've kind of just saved. Like plateaued a little bit. Do they need something else? Like if you had to. You know what I think? As a fan of this group and finishing my career there, stability is needed in Atlanta. Oh, okay. You know, they've had a lot of turnover in front office. You know, this is probably Trey's, I think it may be his fifth coach in his short career so far. And so they need some stability and with the roster as well. You know, you kind of got to have an opportunity to get, to know what you're going to get out of the teammates that you have. And so stability is what's needed for this group, I think. All right. I'm glad you brought that up because we do want to talk about Trey Young Shams. It's obviously not his best season shooting a career low. He is on his fifth coach. And he has a bit of a reputation, unfortunately, for having weird relationships with some of the coaches. So so far with Quinn Snyder, what's it looking like? I think last year when Quinn Snyder came aboard, it was a fork in the road. Like Trey Young, all eyes were on him. How is he going to handle Quinn Snyder coming in? A lot of coaches have been through Atlanta. And so when Quinn Snyder came in, he's getting eight million dollars per year, five year deal. That's not just a coach you're just bringing in and just testing out. That's their star coach. And they want to see how he would behave with Quinn Snyder. And by all accounts from everything I heard, he spent the summer refocusing, refreshed. And we know how Rocky last season was with Trey Young and Nate McMillan. And I think what people on the Hawks have seen now is a guy that's fully focused, fully bought in someone that's comfortable around Quinn Snyder. And I think Quinn Snyder has enjoyed spending time with Trey Young. And I think both their relationships so far has been pretty, pretty on point. Like they, they're building a relationship, they're building a level of trust. And Trey Young finally has a coach that he can look at. He can respect someone that's that's thought of as a superstar head coach in Atlanta, but eventually the wins are going to have to be there. I'm curious, Lou played with Trey, Danny's played against Trey. So like as a teammate of Trey, how do you view this potential relationship? And as a competitor against Trey, how have you guys perceived just how his career in Atlanta? I would, I would like for Trey to just embrace Quinn. Quinn is a coach that knows what he's doing. He knows X and O's. You know, he's going to put Trey in a position to be successful and put them put them on spots on the court where scorn is going to be easier for him. And so I would like Trey to Trey's total buy-in. And I've been there with him and he's had some trust issues with coaches in the relationships as well. And so he's probably a little apprehensive. And that's fair. Again, he needs some stability. You know, when you bring in your fifth coach for a guy so early in his career, it's hard for him to really buy in and trust somebody. And so Quinn is the guy. And so I would like for him to embrace that, embrace not being on the ball as much, playing the two, getting used to that and see what happens. Yeah, his numbers will come. It's only a matter of time. But the fact that he's building this relationship is very important. And I think Quinn can teach him how to lead the right way with this group. Like Lou was saying, they need more stability with their, not just the coaching staff, but any more time together, but with their players. You don't know who, there's a lot of inconsistencies. You don't know who's going to show up which night. And I think the more that Trey becomes the leader, they expect him to be, the better the pieces around him will be and more consistent. So they'll have maturity as he matures. Why trust issues? Like what's, how does that even happen? Just anybody who comes in, you're just sort of apprehensive? Yeah, because you're, because you're buying in, you have a coach put in a system, boom, end of the year, he's gone. You have a new coach come in, now I'm the guy. And new system, same thing, no success. He's gone. Keep going. And so it's, and so after your third or fourth experience like that, it's like, Like why get attached? Yeah, why get, why get attached or why buy in? Like this dude's probably not going to be here long. So why would I care? And the losses probably can, yeah, if you're losing, if you're not winning or getting better and you're putting your faith in a coach of like, we're going to try this and it doesn't work and you're losing, you're not getting the results you want, then it's like, why would I trust this? Exactly. I don't know what you're doing. Nate McMillan was on the fringes of losing that job. And then you go to the Eastern Conference Finals and it's like, well, we have to give this another shot, even though the relationship between Trey and he, between Trey and Nate, it wasn't there, but you have some success. And so you have to try this again. And then you start that, that next season and we're back to square one. You know, you're not having success again. And so then Nate gets fired and now you bring in Quinn. And so, listen, this, this, this young dude has had, he's been through a lot in Atlanta and he's trying to do the best that he can. And but, you know, so from an organizational standpoint, they have to put him in a position where he had, he knows what's going to be the infrastructure moving forward. Fair enough. On the other side of things with Kilbridge's last year, average 26, he's around 23 right now is, that's not a crazy margin. I mean, we're trending up, right? I mean, three points. Yeah, we get, that's, and it's early. Make that up in a couple of games. Yeah, I don't think it's still above 20. Like he's still, he's still can score at a higher clip. I think also the fact that his teammates are playing better. They have Cam Thomas in the lineup now, he's playing, he's getting some more shots. Guys are healthier. And Ben Simmons was there earlier, you know, Cam Johnson, they have a plethora of wings that can do a multitude of things. So having those guys and being able to trust those guys, then what he, it's probably him being more team oriented and trying to buy into that instead of, you know, because we know he can go out and get a bucket. So if he wanted to average 26, I think he could, but he's more of trying to build these younger guys' confidence and build some chemistry with the group he has. Look, they're sitting at ninth right now. I always wonder this in all sports, when you're a team that's sort of stuck in that purgatory middle area, not bad enough to bottom out, not good enough to be at the top, what do you do? Well, that's a personnel question. You know, from a player, from a player standpoint, our job is to go out on the floor, compete and give ourselves an opportunity to win basketball games. As far as what do you do moving forward to get off of that slide? That's a personnel thing. That's something that the front office is going to have to address moving forward for this group. If I put my GM hat on, I think they have a lot of pieces, a lot of similar pieces, and I think you use a good amount of those to get the superstar you want, or what you're missing. And that could be a pure point guard, that could be another big man, but you have a lot of 3 and D wings that are valuable and you can use those guys to pick up a really good piece that you think you're lacking or need. That seems to be the theme. It's like too many of the same when the team is stuck. It seems easy enough to fix. Everybody's trying to go in a small ball and it's kind of experimental right now and it's not working for some team. Can we just, this is my favorite. We're going to just show a video. It's like a resume video, a loop if you will, because we had a couple games last night, Desmond Bain, a career high. He heard y'all 49 points, smashing his previous, that was at 38, second player in franchise history to record at least 45 points, five rebounds and five assists, and of course they defeated, I mean it was the Pistons, but still for their sixth win of the season. How about Joel and Bede? Fitty, 19 to 28 from the field, 11 of 13 from the line, sixth career, 50 point game. It's first career game reaching at least 50 points, 13 rebounds, seven assists and of course they defeat the Wizards. They improve to 13 and seven on the season. Love it. Who had the more impressive game? I mean it's a good problem to have. I'm going to go with Desmond Bain. All right. We've seen this from Joel before. Sure. We've seen Joel get 50, 60. We've seen him get 50 a couple times. Desmond Bain to put it up and this efficient, his first almost 50 ball was pretty impressive and I had him in my top five shooters just other day so he's making me look good. I like what Danny said. This is Desmond Bain's first one so I'm going to give him the edge, but if you look at it, they had identical stat lines man. They both were very efficient. Desmond Bain's missed 11 shots and I think Joel missed 10, one guy had eight assists, the other one had seven. They had identical stat lines but this being his first one, kudos to him. I give him the edge. Yeah it was pretty good. I mean you know because Memphis was mad at you guys yesterday so it feels like just a nice circle. They got time man. They got time. They could turn around. That's going to happen. Here's the thing though because if you were flipping through channels and you saw the final score it was Sixers Wizards and it was close. The fact that Embiid had to have 50 for them to win that game, you would think that that would be the kind of game where he would be able to get a little bit of rest. Well you got to give some credit to Washington as well. What? They're still pros. You hope that you get rest. You hope that you get rest. It's still NBA and any given night you can lose to any NBA team. Are you shocked? I mean I guess there's some issues. Not at all. Listen Washington, they're going to win some games this year so they have to beat somebody and give them some credit. They're trying to compete at a high level and trying to get this thing going into a direction where they can put some games together and be proud of what they're doing and so they're going to compete and they're going to give themselves an opportunity and so him having 50 and then winning by five points is not a glaring thing. Washington they're pros too. You also have to take into account all these teams have been off for a while. That's true. And Philly was integrating new guys that were unhealthy coming back. Kelly Ubray's first game back. True. Everybody trying to find a rhythm so I think a lot of these games will be close or lopsided guys coming out of their break. You know they're a little winter break that they had. Yeah they did get a little break. Did anybody get to do anything or you just sort of stayed where you are? What's them doing? I think there was some doom. Fair enough. Magic Cavs. Another game we had last night. Cavaliers beating them 121, 111. Donovan Mitchell finished with 35, 7 and 6. How about Paolo Bencara with a career high 42 points. Now here's the weird thing, Danny. The Cavs are only a game off of last year's 13 and 8 record at this point in the season. True. And yet feels like they're not quite the same. Why? That was a hell of a shot by George by the way. I don't know if you saw that. Friend of the show? Give them some love. But I think like I go back to what I said earlier. You know each year you want to get better. Yeah. And they had such a great offseason you expected more. So the expectation is higher for them and they've had some bad losses but the record and the way they're playing it doesn't show like a ton better. They made some great offseason moves. They picked up George and Yang. They picked up Max Shrews. They got the shooting they need and for them to be in the same spot but it seems worse because expectations higher. I think that's the reason we expected more from them. I want to talk about the the backcourt for a second. Mitchell and Garland. I feel like we sort of touched on this a lot last year but are you satisfied with that as their backcourt as far as making a big run? Yeah. I mean they got as much talent as any other group in the Eastern Conference. Excuse me. You know those those two guys can can lead you to a lot of wins. I don't I don't know what's the issue in Cleveland. You know at sitting at 12 and 9 it isn't bad. You know they're over they're over 500 basketball team but I feel like they should be slightly better. Right. I have a high expectation for this team because they got a lot of a lot of really good pieces that they can make a good run and so I don't know what the issue is but I think this team can can do some damage if they get it right. I'll jump in. I know it's like I talked about this on my pile of the chat inside the green room. Nice. But yeah we talked about you know they're talking about the plug at the right way. You got to plug it the right way. Yeah you gotta like only do it the right way. It's the combination of the two. Jared Allen and Evan Mowley people tell him about playing two bigs together then is that the smaller yeah backcourt so and you have I think Darius and Donovan are great scoring and you have Struse but all those three wings to compete with the Milwaukee's the Boston Celtics type of line-ups they're not big enough defensively to guard those table guys and I think that's the issue and also you it makes them slower and you pay to play two bigs at the same time so I think the combination of all those two groups I think is what people are concerned about and that's why you know it's kind of they seem like they're stuck in mud at times and if they get stuck we look at that. The Palo Bencarro of it all though he have you seen enough I mean this is the guy to build around. I've not seen enough really. I think he's good but I don't think he's I haven't seen enough for he hasn't proven me proven to me that he should be the guy right away. They have a lot of good pieces around them though and I think just need more consistency but he's playing well I mean he's also had some games where he hadn't you know played as well as we expect them to they have Franz Wagner over there he's been playing really well too and they have some guys with the bench they just playing out of fast-paced and defensive rating and a top three top five that's been helping to win a lot of games. Do you agree you have not seen enough or you have? I agree I agree just hadn't seen enough of it you know still a very young guy having some success but you know this is a longevity game this is a consistent game and so once we see that consistently I get I give them that but right now we haven't seen enough. Not enough young man uh we're taking a quick break right now when we come back three time WNBA champion. Chelsea Gray joins the show. All right she's a three-time WNBA champ she's been a finals MVP a commissioners cup MVP three time all WNBA all time. The list by the way when we introduce people Chelsea this one's a little bit longer than usual it's a lot going on here very decorated but the three titles you got one with the sparks two with the aces does one stand out above the others? I think this last one stands out a little bit more like we heard so much noise throughout the entire season and to kind of quiet it that way it was different for me right I wasn't playing in the closeout game but like this one was just huge because all the adversity we had hit throughout the entire season. I like that. Chelsea you you win a couple MVPs in 2022 so I'm sure it was frustrating for you to be to miss the closeout game in Game 4 of this past WNBA finals what was that like for you what were your emotions how did you feel having to sit out and have to cheer on your team from the bench for the closeout game? Yeah the competitor I mean like it like you dream about playing in the finals in like that closeout game it's even sweeter to win it on the road I've never won a championship at home and so I understand and I love that feeling and so I had like 24 to 48 hours where it was hard like just understanding that I wasn't going to be able to play for the rest of the season like even if it went to a Game 5 like I wasn't going to wasn't going to be able to play so I took that time and what's kind of to myself but then I came around the team a little bit more just to see them just to see them and it helped me in and helped them but I turned into a coach real fast on the sideline like just yelling out plays remembering scouting reports like I was locked in from the beginning and then when we won I threw the crutches and everything nothing else matters how's your foot doing now hopefully hopefully it's doing better yeah it's doing well um I had a minor surgery on it to get it all repaired and uh my foot's feeling better so I can't wait for next season I was rings by the grace Chelsea I don't want to be creepy but I was actually sitting across from y'all's bench for that closeout game and you and Candace Parker just chirping at the end I was like this is the show within the show and I just kind of kept watching you too it was it was awesome that's just my own side note I just wanted to share with you uh the usher situation the videos that came out were fantastic um but to be invited to the concert as a celebratory moment how was it how how does all that unfold yeah well it was not like broadcasted so much but I mean you saw it a little bit was that we got caught on stage before this I'm walking up there with a boot not knowing what the heck to expect and they played music and we're dancing so it was a fun vibe but then he came to our area because Asia had called him out a few times throughout the years but it was cool man he's a great entertainer his music is like timeless like you can listen at any moment um it's like we grew up with his music the entire time so it was kind of like a nostalgia with it but like it was super fun and really like get to celebrate it with him as well it's a good party Chelsea you guys became the third team ever to go back to back uh WNBA championships Sparks did it the comments did it where do you guys rank when it comes to back to back change the legacy and the script is still being written right I think uh the comments kind of done it did it first I think we're working our way to like have that legacy of the comments of like the inaugural seasons and like being able to do that um but ask me next year and we'll that'll be the best dynasty you play with so many talented players throughout the course of your career and have so much success but you got to tell me what's it like playing with Asia Wilson how's that she's amazing man like I came to this team three years ago right and each year you just see improvements and I think that's all you weren't one out of like your franchise player like they come in you know they have a target on their back like you want them to get better each time like she's added to her game every second so it makes me look like great like there's passes that make to her and I'm just like I don't know I feel like you're the only person that's going to be able to catch right now so I'm gonna just throw it and she catches this she has great hands she has great touch now she's doing it on both ends like to be able to be in shape like that and do it on both ends consistently um it's amazing and each year she's getting better so it's a luxury to be able to play with somebody like her and she's added to her legacy starting at a very young age and fun right right super fun on and off the court you guys have so much personality and y'all have so much fun I enjoy watching you guys um at the press conference having having a little bit to drink and enjoying that moment who would you say is the funniest person on that aces team man it's like it's me sometimes it's Sidney Coulson it's Asia like everybody has like their own little comedic like time it's hilarious and then like sometimes we'll end up being like a viral hit and Sidney's doing something I don't know it just like it's not rehearsed it's all real like everything is great and um we just have fun and I think that's the that's the time that you don't get back so we just be in the moment she's like a comedian like that's some of those videos out there I'm just like okay this is thoroughly entertaining not entertaining however our dumb ass is on radio and uh you specifically got to call one out I'm not gonna say his name because I refuse to but he was the guy that said that uh the best high school boys team could beat y'all in a game at what point it's the dumbest thing but he's a mouth breather but all of that being said why why do we continue this dumb narrative about disrespecting women's basketball you know I really I really don't know like there's there's this old saying if you don't you have anything nice to say don't say anything at all right like there's a lot of judgment that gets that happens um about our league and about our players around with people that has have never seen us play at all never came to a game um but I I don't understand like what made him say that which is why I just tweeted back dumb ass like it was just it was just like it was just dumb as like it doesn't deserve like more attention and response and it went like crazy and so I I didn't know it was going to have that effect but it's just like dumb people in this world that just does things just to get attention and I feel like that's what he did in that moment it is a different world and I don't think they teach that in schools anymore not to say anything no people just say whatever to make them relevant um coach Becky Hammond I got a chance to have her in San Antonio before she started out she now has two titles do you how do you like playing for her one and two do you ever see her leaving and becoming a first NBA head coach as a female um I said this in an interview like a while I think she's the best coach I've ever had I think she does a great job of being able to hold somebody accountable and be in the moment and enjoy it as well and have fun um that line she's like always like the best of that and I think that's what that's why the players that she coaches just love her and just have so much confidence in her so when she's yelling at us in that fourth quarter like we're just like oh I know it's from a place from love you know and we really appreciate that and shoo if she's the first like head coach it would be legendary you know selfishly I don't want her to go anywhere yeah I don't want her even to answer the phone because they might do a great job of um bringing her there but I mean that what she's constantly making history so um I'm always gonna cheer somebody on that's trying to you know make a legacy and uh be in the history books I know I'm torn on that one because on the one hand I'm like it'd be awesome if she went back coach the Spurs but I don't want her to leave I get it I get it um there were five number one draft picks on the floor during the finals this year so obviously you get that top pick in WNBA that's good stuff if Caitlyn Clark leaves this year and decides to enter the draft like how impactful do you think she'll be right off the bat yeah I think there's always a learning curve when you get silly like now no no matter how great you are in college right defensively I feel like it's the hardest part to like adjust to when you get to the league um so that will be an adjustment for her but there's she can fly out shoot the rock um you have to be on the up on the screen even I think there's going to be times where there's players around her um that's going to draw a lot of attention and there's going to be more open shots for her in the league than there is right now she has a lot of attention on her Iowa um so it'll be interesting like fit and like the players around her is also um a decided factor but I think she's going to continue to get better do you if she asked for you your advice would you would you say stay or would you say no it's time to time to get to work um I think it depends where she wants her career to go but if I was in college and the NIO was what it is now I would be staying until probably like it's like six years you know college college is a great time and you get um it's like you're you're making money you're preparing yourself for after college um it's an opportunity to see what you want to do after basketball so I if I was in that position um I would stay Chelsea your your guys playing style is the most fun in the league to me I enjoy watching you guys play you out of behind the back pass to Asia Wilson early in the season uh Steph Curry shared it a lot of people gave it love Tari's Hal Burton called the best pass he's ever seen what did that mean to you um you know I just was like if I'm gonna do it I might as well just try and it has to be the Asia I was like like if it's a turnover it's a huge miss but like everybody would be like okay that's just Chelsea and so when it connected and she stayed locked in for like an extra couple seconds I was like oh I gotta throw it but I kind of set it up in a way that that was the only way that I can get it could I have made like a jump stop and like pass with the left hand probably but I mean high risk high reward you know so I just tried it and it was one for the history books for sure your style of play who would you say that you you you pattern your game after I think it's a combination of a couple things like I used to watch manager Johnson play all the time like the flair um I used to watch teacher Pinochet out that play for the second monarchs a lot the post-up game from the guard position I would watch the fade away like Chris Paul would do so um I think there's a combination and I just took some things from different people to to kind of make my game I'm glad you mentioned Chris Paul he's called the point god you're called the point god did I did I nail it shut up you know what that was the best I could do uh who's the real point god the god I spell definitely but you know I'm gonna say me okay perfect you were on that 2020 Olympics team is it true that you beat Dremont and a game of dominoes are you a big domino player it is true it is true don't let me tell you any different did you want the money maybe a couple more times but it's very good I'm nice and domino see me at this I need to like the table the square one we was on this weird table like you can slap it down as well it's kind of affected my game a little bit did you did you take some money from him um I can either say yes or no right now any other any other good stories from that time with the Olympics other than the dominoes that you guys shared or had you know fun playing any other games yeah we were um we all had like this players lounge and because it was different we didn't we weren't able to go to different events and so we had to create like moments in time where we were just like just chilling and so we were all at the players lounge they were there to play spades I mean we had unopopping we had just games there was like there was game consoles Xbox everything so we were just finding ways to like spend our time because we didn't want to be in our rooms for two weeks um we weren't able to be out and like tour and go see places she didn't mention Bure no no yeah right Chelsea besides Draymond who are some of your favorite athletes in other sports um I'm a cocoa golf fan I like Serena Williams um but they're great I watched tennis um a lot like if I wasn't playing basketball maybe we would try tennis a little bit more um so I really like those those two play those two tennis players for sure all right before we let you go you and your wife expecting your first child how's uh how's that prep go yeah it was great it's a journey um step by step getting better but I can't wait I've been excited this whole time I've been wanting to I've been wanting a kid for a while so um I was gonna say Danny any sleep when a baby sleep yeah any advice sleep when a baby sleep on the baby I got a three month old yeah make sure you get your rest the first month is hectic stay on pace stay steady stay positive stay on pace it'll get it'll get better just keep that in mind it'll get better wow that sounds daunting when you say it like that Chelsea this has been awesome we appreciate the time thank you so much thank you for having me all right we'll be back in a second that man has a family next that music it can only mean one thing time for the scoop Zach Levine scoop we've been waiting on a little bit of something shams what do you have feel something good yeah Michelle Zach Levine not good for the bulls not good for Zach Levine he will be out another three to four weeks he's got to treat right foot inflammation and so he's going to be ending up missing a total of at least four to five weeks with this injury ironically this takes the bulls and Zach Levine right up to January that mid-January January 15 date when all the free agents will be eligible to be traded from last summer so when you think about teams like the Lakers Daniel Russell Rui Hachimer those two guys will both be trade eligible come January 15th um and we we know what what this has been the Lakers sixers two of the teams expected to have interest in Zach Levine and both sides Zach Levine the bulls have been open to exploring trade avenues but for now Zach Levine will remain shelf the bulls are three you know in their last three games without Zach Levine uh-oh uh-oh this is tough news for Chicago I feel for him I think a lot of people forget about Lonzo I think that's a big reason why they've been struggling the last couple years he was the have a point guard yeah and he was the glue guy he was the mediator he you made exciting playing fast a good pass or good point guard and you know DeMar and Zach you know could play off him so without those two now in the lineup the Chicago and they've already been frustrated it's going to be even tougher we'll see how it works out you know now I think this puts DeMar in a position to lead and really have to carry this team as as much as possible and so that's going to be an interesting dynamic but sometimes when unfortunate things like this happen on a team it kind of puts everybody in the position to hide their games up and so like you said three and no since since he's been hurt you know hopefully this team can can keep this thing going until he gets back or they find him a trade partner or whatever but you know much love to Zach Levine hope you get well soon the Josiah Johnson tweet last night by the way if you didn't see it it's go look at it because he never ever fails the internet but it's good it's basically saying that when Levine does get traded all of a sudden he starts walking like Kevin Spacey at the end of usual suspects back to good just like that uh shams miss you love you see you in this studio next week sir have a great weekend take it easy show yes thank you um got a little time right for a little that man has a family maybe a couple please him in there why not um let's start with a little Jordan a good way oh no he stopped time right there did it like oh no slide yeah you can blame that one on the floor yeah you got it you got a point to the floor come get this in the west but yeah this is the one right here he gave him a little you know Jordan push over there too you know a lot of people were upset he's top fans mostly and he said Jordan pushed off we can just speed through this next one no big deal oh no that's a big man hezzy man you don't see that from a big often that's pretty nice not even blocked that one even working on this game i'm seeing you making some moves out there that's nice you know what though you should say something nice here the spurs were in this until like the last five minutes no come on that was not surprising that was a thank you because i didn't expect him to be that close i didn't either Minnesota was going on six to eight point runs whenever they wanted to bear whatever dude also it is coming back from the break too how about a little lot with the second lively one in about three days this is nice that hell hey weak side i'm going to get you every time you thought he had it too he was just he was a hair i'm going to do it he almost got it he was right there and then once he realized he couldn't get he tried to jump out the way it was too late this is when your coach tell you i told you to be in early you got to be listening starting and then build out or this happens cooler body oh my god yeah that's kind of nasty yeah come on oh yeah do we is there a stair down because i do love a stair down it's the best part sometimes was it technical because they usually give those now right that one felt like a long one we're showing oh my oh hold on is this not the second time we've seen walker kessler on the receiving any one of these i think it's more than two i feel like it's been a big man you always at the room trying to protect that you're going to be on some of these highlights but that that was kind of nasty i didn't know we're shocked i still do that this is that's impressive yeah that was good taco what's wrong here that i mean barely even had where are we here where now this is a highlight that shouldn't be this was this guy what are we doing well first of all we're in 1994 judging from the uh you get a family oh it's like you know we're uh what is his team i already forgot all right i mean that seems like come on a little man oh my that seems unfair he didn't hurt himself what was he thinking well i mean he was thinking this is it i'm gonna be a hero he's infamous it's gonna be awesome and it wasn't um around the league we go what do we have tonight you know what we have the in-season tournament new orleans lakers i'm excited yeah so hold on you're gonna be there yes and you're doing like a red tell me about the red carpet loo so the mba is doing a great job of making this an event um this isn't your usual i got an email for my ticket package and you know i was asked to do the red carpet so there's gonna there's gonna be some are you gonna dress up which sweats are you gonna wear no i'm probably gonna put on a black hoodie this time okay i'm gonna go i'm gonna go formal okay i'm going formal when i go formal i do black hoodie you know so yeah that that'll be the vibe tonight but this this should be exciting i like this by the way it's kind of crazy it's the first meeting that we get to see these two teams play each other just so happens to be in this particular game so who's got the advantage man i don't think there's any advantage i think this the i think it's kind of like a we're starting fresh yeah you know i think both teams kind of have the tournament basketball for sure anybody can win anybody can win definitely but i think this comes down to not the stars in this one i think comes down to the roleplayers um and i think that the new linds pelicans roleplayers might be a little hungrier than the late uh oh uh oh it's happening i'm predicting the first loss in the tournament for the lakers and i'm disagreeing with dg on the go with the underdogs i'm not rolling dg this is lost vegas the lights are on laban james listen when the lights are on that man knows who's the who's the goat in the building he knows who's the star to show lebron james is showing up he's going to show out big i mean the refs know too but oh okay so that we all had this kind of confusion yesterday with so the lakers will not be allowed to wear the black jerseys because the courts blew and they thought it would be distracting or confusing so they're going to wear the gold what it's okay to have an orange court with orange yeah i don't i'm a little confused that's a very strange reason to not be able to wear uniforms and if that's the case change the court let let the teams wear their i also feel like you're giving the lakers motivation like oh we can't wear what we want but i those they've been playing well in those jerseys too i'm sure this might be a mental thing i don't know if new linds called in a favor i'm still really i'll get them out of those uniforms you mess with them mentally but yeah i think it's strange i don't know what why this is an issue i'm a little disappointed we've seen the court already i was kind of hoping to be surprised this afternoon but that's all right pacers bucks is the other game this is an early start by the way so remember that wherever you are to watch early um pacers won the first time these two played each other 126 124 and that was the 54 pointer from yannis no dame though um how do you slow down yannis in this game lou you don't you know you vote we've tried everything pack the paint make him shoot jump shots he has to he has too many weapons with him now you gotta kind of gotta guard him honestly you know you gotta guard him in a in a way that that's not beneficial for you because he has so many guys around him and you can't really put as much attention on him as you want to and so i expect another big night from yannis and very much like lebron this is a star star show you know and so these guys are going to show up so with that said i i expect holla bird compete as well i mean he's got dame lillard back too i feel like that's a little definitely helpful relief for sure it takes the load off of him yeah um i think indiana the only chance they have is to try to get him in foul trouble and it's by taking some charges other than that is that he has too many pieces around him with brooke lopez chris middleton dame to pack the paint and try to guard their shooters as well it's just too much it's tough but indiana's six stick to what they know and what they're good at that's running and scoring they could try to outscore them and i think they have a good shot at doing so all right let's call this one call the first one what do you have for this i got indiana i'm going underdog okay underdog i like i think this is underdog type of tournament he likes to go against the grass i mean i'm with him though this tournament is about the you know yeah i've been winning so far so i'm i'm going Milwaukee all right so we literally have opposites on every game this is perfect that's fun to work out all right i like it i like it we uh we're taking a quick break when we come back we just want to show you a little luca for fun running back running back running back running back it's pretty important to come out here and get this win and get it in 50 point that's right that's resounding fashion yeah the point i said before the game you know we just can't go around and uh we can see oh it's nailed it that was perfectly handled uh okay they're they're luca had a night i think we say that a few times he also got a little chippy during this game which is always fun to see right here right here hey buddy no and there it is so i okay whatever he's saying it's very irritating to dun um kind of trash talker is luca y'all he's laughing which can't feel good i don't think he's saying much to dun i think dun is one of those guys he he gets upset i swear i was gonna say the same thing i was gonna say i play with chris dun i think this is more of a chris dun thing you know than a luca thing so he just smiles at him and he gets madder yeah yeah luca does that little smirk little condescending antics to get under your skin but he doesn't really say much i have a i don't know if you know this michelle i have a little slovenian uh not citizenship but i played there a while ago so he respects me i haven't heard any trash talk for me and i think lu is such a great player he probably didn't trash talk to lu so we didn't hear much of his trash did he trash talk to you no i've never heard him talk trash to anybody you know what i think i asked but that's what it is i think he does that thing where you he did it quietly like he didn't very and then he smiles which makes people very angry when you do things to them and then you smile on top of it like that's what he was doing right there which i kind of like yeah that'll send me over the top exactly you have a first half triple doubling you're smiling and you're kind of arrogant that's going to send me over the egg that i might lose it danny first week how do you feel it was a lot of fun yeah yeah i hope to be back mind i enjoyed it what would you change uh if the time okay yep that's exactly what's the hour getting up at five a.m is not my my greatest moments you know i have more energy i still have good energy you guys bring great energy i feel like once you're out here it's like okay i'm i'm awake now it's a lot of you can crash right after it's easy i got to talk basketball be casual kick it back like barbershop talk did you learn anything from him i'll learn stuff from all the time play against lu or play with lu or be you know he's a basketball mind he's a genius and he scored basketball genius and you know what i'm gonna take the compliment are you really yes i'm gonna take it okay so you go to vegas we've talked about that any other i mean you're just going basketball or is this like a fun fun uh it's vegas it's vegas you know it's both the end season tournament gave me great incentive to go and so i look forward to watching the games and and and being a part of the experience so i'll see it up close and personal i'll tell y'all about do you cheer when you're at games are you quiet i do not okay just sit very stoically i just enjoy that's what basketball geniuses do that's right study the game just study it make mental notes so you can bring them back on monday because we are done it is thursday it is our friday we will be back here bright and early on monday danny this was a great week brother i appreciate you thank you yes sir