 Sean Welcome to both the county tonight. I'm Andy up where I'm the host of show. I don't call the police I'm supposed to be here if you're watching this when they broadcast it on Longmont public media, then I need to be like hey grandma Grandma wake up Grandma, it's me Relax relax. It's me. I'm just wearing a mask. You're not like at the hospital How are you? You're doing good Feeling okay. Hey, listen you fell asleep in front of the TV again. Why don't you go on back to bed? All right, you know you're not supposed to be up this late. Okay Can we up that woman's dose? And update of a new cast on It's a hard cast. Who's there? Who's there? A pained friend of mine very involved in my self romantic life stuck in a cast Um So I've been having to like live with this thing we're gonna see it for the next few episodes, unfortunately The worst thing about this is that I can't get it wet And so I have to like put it in a trash bag and tape it up and whatever I want to take a shower Which if you know me is like often So like to take a shower doing wrap it up. I feel like sit like this It's like it what it must have been to like take a shower hitler you Was there a hitler you kept I think there maybe was the darkness Well, we have a Whole note from the producer from From last episode Well correction, I guess we should make says Correction from previous episode That billionaire guillotine joke Remember that we love Turned out to be very similar to a joke which had already been circulating on social media We didn't realize we've been beaten to that joke and that the French Revolution was on so many people's minds For the record, of course Boulder County tonight would never support any kind of violence And the joke was of course never intended to be a call for violent action to be taken against anyone Boulder County tonight apologizes to whoever got there first vastness What was Labor Day this week yesterday happy Labor Day to you. We had a great holiday Great question Something we made up in 1884 and listen to this is gonna be a quote might be like this Just know that these fingers wish they could do this It's about to be a quote. I'm gonna frighten you. I'm not like a follower of Baphomet or whatever it is. You like this Labor Day was a National holiday to celebrate the labor movement and the works and contributions of laborers to the development and growth of America Didn't know that did you because when I think Labor Day, I think two phrases I think happy Labor Day, which is Sort of a fucked up phrase. It doesn't make any sense And then of course, I think Labor Day sale So what that means Labor Day sale is code for the people we're celebrating the laborers Have to work on That's what the fuck these people, you know, like 40% of companies have some of their employees stay for Labor Day, right? Remember like during the apocalypse last year We call like our laborers people like the grocery store, for instance our friends at the grocery store We called them heroes, of course Because they were facing a fucking pandemic because we were standing on each other's necks to get toilet paper We needed somebody to do it. They're fucking real heroes from that story But when they signed up to bad groceries, they weren't signing up to be Batman They weren't supposed to be like national level heroes, you know what I mean? It's those those people that we will in our society fights tooth and nail to not raise their pay $1 Those people the heroes the laborers Okay, this says Corporate statism or simply corporatism is a political culture closely related to fascism Where corporations team up with the government to abuse workers in the name of profit I don't even know what that means Hey, you know what that means That wasn't exactly a production level note. Thank you for snapping to my poetry We'll be a little more conscientious with our prediction notes Now What else is going on the weather a little national news again? Oh Remember you guys remember the war on terror? Yeah, the one that we like uh declared uh mission accomplished on like 18 years ago Well turns out That was still going so the war on terror the war on terror rather is over and uh We lost Yep, we lost the war on terror and I think it's now time for americans to realize and maybe admit to ourselves The modern way that we go to war Makes the shit we go to war against stronger Here's how you know We're to war against terror 20 years ago. What's happened in the last 20 years? Oh way less terror, obviously No more terror we get more shit is more happening like where we live and shit out at different level And like uh the war on drugs, right? Did we defeat drugs in the united states? Did they beat drugs or are there like way more drugs? More drugs more drugs. I'm against that particular war, of course. I'm against all the wars So like what's another one? The war on christmas Every year I hear about like oh my god, there's a war on christmas. They're trying to throw baby jesus in the river And like I don't know how's christmas doing Christmas is doing pretty good And as capitalists, of course, it's our most holy holiday Because it's our big sale day And it's got a war against it constantly since I was a child since the 90s We've been fighting the war against christmas And christmas just is unbeatable Us atheists, we're just gonna have to give up Smashing the war Christmas I know I know what you're thinking Andy we're so glad that the war on terror is over. Oh god me too. I'm so pleased But of course there are some like bad sad things about ending the war on terror And I know that you're just as worried as I am about The well-being of our great american war profiteers. What are they gonna do? Where are they gonna go? How are they gonna feed their families? Right? Oh, they've been in this reliable state, you know And uh It's been a thriving industry, of course being at war in afghanistan for 20 years And now these people are having the rug pulled out from under them thrown out into the streets And here's the problem with these folks, of course They've been doing the same thing for 20 years. They've been profiting off of our tax dollars to go kill people They don't really try to bother us Just enough there. They've been fighting this war, right? So Now that the war's over, what are they gonna fucking do? They don't exactly have a lot of skill sets Other than like defrauding the government mass murder They don't exactly have a lot of skill set for the modern peaceful economy, do they? What are they gonna fucking do? Work for uber? They're gonna drive for uber? They've bombed more cars than they've driven What are they gonna do? Like work at the palm shop? They're like buy Sean's guitar for $50 and resell it to him for $120,000 You know what I mean? They don't have a skill set for the modern world. That's what I'm trying to say Um And even though we're worried about these people, I want you to know that the government Is worried too. And so we've actually already built in the answer for this particular problem We left behind Billions of dollars worth of humvees and helicopters and equipment This way they have something to fight us with when we declare war on them again in a few years See So don't you worry about the war profiteers. I just want to put you put your little mind to these about dead shit There's another There's another quick note from the producers. Let me grab that for us It's really some war statistic. Let's see Oh, this is from our producer. Mr. Ra says, uh I am strange My mind is tinted with the colors of madness They fight in silent furor in the effort to possess each other I am strange I have approached a degree of love that is so unwise in one world that it is wisdom in another I am strange I no longer have respect for hate For I am stronger than hate. I am contentious of both those who hate and those who destroy I am not a part of the world which hate and the world which destroys I want a better world and not only do I want a better world I seek to live a better life so that I have the right to be a part of a better world I if I hate and destroy I have no right to speak of love Love is greater than hate and I have chosen love above all else in the world No more notes. That was weird Thank you very much Let's let's reassess our relationship with the producers No more notes for the rest of the episode. That was a weird one The episode. Oh my god. This episode is brought to you by our good friends Do you need a drink motherfucker? Because I do Our sponsor This company here Abbott and Wallace Distilling. Oh my god. We love them. Distilling my good friends. They are whiskey and rum distillery. They make cocktails and mocktails. They got munchies They do live music very often. They do public tastings and events You can buy their stuff in local stores But I recommend stopping into the actual place. That's at 350 terry street 720 545 2017 that's their phone number. Remember when you used to call people you just dial in the numbers and then you talk to them That's what you could do with that little combination On today's episode we'll be having an interview not with an inanimate object with someone's hand up its ass but rather One of our dear public servants A city council person who is running for reelection and um We're gonna invite her onto the show now. This is marcia marcia. Please join me Please have a seat Well, hello, so now that we're seated and we have drinks we can take our masks off. That's the rules That's the rules and as long as we um put the mask back on before we stand up Then we're okay because that's what the bolder county health department wanted us to do so that we could you know buy drinks I'm a letter of the law guys. You might suspect Um marcia you have been on city council a while now for a full term I've been on city council for four years minus two months because the election is in the very first second day of november in this ball And um What else is there to say about it? How do you like it? Have you noticed a theme with these answers when you're like, how do you like being on city council? They're like, oh boy Well, you know in in some ways, it's the best job I've ever had and in other ways, it's the most thankless job I've ever had Um, but I think it's a job that needs to be done Uh, and so when I started uh running in the first place I swore up and down that I would not run for a second term Because I didn't want to be beholden to anybody and I wanted to be able to always tell the truth And so I did that and then you know what happened nobody ran against me It helps a lot and you're in my ward. Yeah You know, I like the number of votes to not be embarrassingly low So I'd appreciate your vote. I mean like uh, even if there weren't options, I would consider voting for you You're such a delightful character. Oh, well, thank you. I am a character. I think But uh, yeah, it's You know local government somebody already probably said this in one of your interviews but local government is really where We really touch the people the most And that we do the things that that we need because we can see them I had this adventure during the pandemic when it was impossible to go out and see people and talk to them, you know But Longmont has some very very large local Facebook groups Yeah, large like bigger than my work Okay, and so I did my fix of of working with the public by lurking on that Facebook group You know, I found out that the public Doesn't know how to access the services the government has they're ready and waiting for them And what's kind of services? What do you mean? Well, like getting a hit of money to Make sure that they are they they stay current on their rent Or they're electric bill. That's a thing that's available in the city. I didn't know yeah It is, you know, especially since the arpa pass there is a lot of money available in the city But there always has been they don't know how to get a housing voucher Or if they applied for one eight years ago and they haven't heard anything they think it's still okay, you know, and I'd say, you know You should check in and see if they still have you Because what probably happened is your number came up and they couldn't find you Did you update your address every time you changed couches? And uh, you know and the answer is no. Well, okay, so here's the deal You know If if somebody takes you to court show up If it's an eviction hearing show up It's free to get a mediator from the city to come and stand there with you And make sure that your side is is represented and try to work out a deal Because the worst thing you want to do is have to find another place to live right now We don't have enough places to live And they cost way too much they cost. Oh, they cost way too much and so, you know, my number one mission on the city council is to Find ways to rebalance the inventory, you know, just like walmart does We need to make sure that we've got the right kind of houses at the right price so that people can find places to live and so that people Don't bid the houses we've got out of out of anybody's price range Which is what's happening right now, you know, now most people don't need to live on the historic west side They may think they do but nobody really needs to live there You know, everybody needs an apartment or a condo And it shouldn't cost more than about a third of what they earn well, so If we bid up all of the houses up to where they cost as much as boulder or raise all the rents to where rent Costs as much as boulder. We're shooting ourselves in the foot as a city. That's right Right, because you know what we want to have is we want to have this ladder so that as people have Different stages of their lives They can move around and be in the kind of house that they need, you know And by the time they have three kids a dog and two cats Well, then yeah, maybe they can afford a house with a yard and all of that stuff But when they're just starting out, they don't need that and you know what life is hard And being an adult is hard. You probably don't want that. You may think you want that, but Remember about mowing the lawn You know, you don't want to do that. I didn't want to do that when I was young and you know what now I mowed and I don't want to do it either So, uh Anyway, it was a big deal learning how to Help people that are in trouble when you know, we're doing a really bad job at Making the hell possible to find When it doesn't even occur to a lot of people that it's there One of our main focuses on this show while three of them are affordable housing Homelessness and how we're treating that population and then workforce abuse We have all these jobs that pay bullshit We're expected to pay an incredible rent every month We're trying to see how those things are related and what we can do about them You know, they are all all related even in ways that are different than what People will obviously think so, you know average joe whose house is already paid for And it's been living in long months since there were 40,000 people here instead of 100,000 people here you know, they naturally think that if We build a bunch more places for people who live that they're all going to live their lifestyle And they're all going to have two cars and the traffic in Longmont is going to get way worse What really is true is that if we did that, you know, if we build dense housing in the Inner part of the city not on top of the historic west side or even the historic east side, you know But around that Then all those people who work here and are commuting into the city could could Live here instead And that's not going to they're not going to come here with three cars and drive around all day to make up for not having to do the commute All right, they're not going to do that You know instead they're going to get on their bike or they're going to watch they're going to drive way way less And when they do it's going to be at the time when most other people don't drive Right only like moms with young babies are going to be driving then when they drive And and so this is perfect having urban density And people who work here able to live here makes us have less traffic, which is what everybody wants And yet whenever there's a new building that being you know a permit that comes before the city council Everybody within like two miles of the new development Comes and says it's going to ruin my neighborhood. It's going to make more traffic It's going to you know everything is different and you promised me that this wasn't going to happen I feel like that's a silly thing to worry about. I feel like on the things that are happening in the city I feel like traffic is like not that terrible of a thing that's happening I'm more worried about like people that can't pay their rent because their job pays bullshit during the pandemic and They kicked out of their house to become part of our homeless population, but they all are Related and I don't agree that they're related and that is the whole point because if you have you know what happens now Is is because you don't have enough housing Then the luxury apartments are snapped up by people who who would really like more than that and if you built Um affordable market housing Then those people would live there because they'd rather enjoy the the two hours a day that they're not commuting Then you know and have pocket money so that they could spend And that would mean that they wouldn't be trying to get into the affordable housing because I can't find any other place And that means we could keep people who need affordable housing In affordable housing because this is the other trick about homeless people, you know, there are some people Who are going to be homeless and we have to figure out how to coexist with them But the other thing about people who I'm not sure I agree at that particular point Well, we can debate that but I like to make the first point first Which is which is that if somebody falls out Of housing, you know because they were just barely there They were just barely making rent and feeding their kids and getting to their job every day, you know If if something happens like their kid needs to go to the emergency room and you know What or their car breaks down any of those things and they get they lose their lease because of that and become homeless you know, well first of all they're going to lose their kids and Second when they they're going to be really sad when they're on the street, you know, and they're probably going to get sick And after about six months of living that way Become the other kind of homeless who just don't believe there's anything else Because they're hopeless because they haven't treated in the system. Yeah, well that makes sense to lose hope I would lose hope too if I were trying to make the system work. That's that's absolutely right That's what I'm trying to say It feels like the system at large is not incentivized to fix the homeless problem because I think systemically what works for our masters is We work our shitty jobs as hard as we can and we take whatever pays available But like the threat is if you become homeless, there is no help for you So you better just take this shitty job and shut the fuck up I believe the new american dream is just stability. I'm really sorry. That's true because in my entire life I have found stability really boring And uh, I think we need change to stay alive, you know to know we're alive But there's change and then there's change, you know falling out of your grummy apartment Is not the kind of change that makes you feel alive, right? Um, and and yeah You know, I had a big public fight with some people on the staff about three years ago because I said, why don't we build a homeless shelter? You know, there's a homeless shelter in bolder but if you're in that homeless shelter in bolder and Your crummy job that you have held on to by your finger meals is in longmont And then to be in the shelter in bolder you have to be in coordinated entry and coordinated entry requires you to keep four appointments a day a week Which also is going to make you lose your crummy job because you get paid by the hour and if you're not there They fire you and then they take the next person who wants a crummy job, you know, and gas is four dollars an hour They don't usually have a car and they may get a bus pass or they may not get a bus pass They may have to panhandle for the bus pass, you know, so it's it's I really thought earlier in my In my term on council that the most important thing we needed to do is build a homeless shelter But you know what if we build a homeless shelter? That is like hundreds of single moms That can't be given between five hundred and twelve dollars twelve thousand twelve hundred dollars a year My mouth doesn't work because i'm getting old But um, but but anyway that you can't give all those single moms the money that it takes To keep them from falling out of their apartment So it's not just a well, you know the system doesn't care about those people and we can't just build them a homeless shelter You know what it is is we have to choose between about a hundred and fifty homeless people that are living on the streets in Longmont and A much larger number of single moms who aren't living on the street yet So it's it is a hard decision And i'm to will tell you the truth. I don't know where I stand on it right now And what I what I think I know Is that coordinated entry has a lot of rules that are keeping people out of it Yes, they have to show that they've been in town for six months or more Living on the streets for six months or more and evading the police at the same time Of course because in boulder if you are trying to live on the streets The police will show up and take your blanket and kindly ask you to stop existing. Yes We have a new chief of police, so I don't want to be too certain about policies Although I hear he's a really good guy an episode two was largely about that issue We were mostly talking about what they're doing in in boulder in boulder Yeah, which is something that I don't have a lot of authority over In Longmont, we have the core team, which I think is sort of our answer to sending police to deal with non-violent crime Yeah, we have the core team. We have lead, you know, if you are addicted We I mean we have a lot of stuff and not only that if you are camping in an out-of-the-way place Or sleeping in an out-of-the-way place with your backpack as a pillow You know, we don't move you along unless People really complain You know because What if you're like starting a campfire in the alley or something? That's a problem or whatever Well, yeah, especially if it's up against the wall of a wooden building But also like boulder is underperforming with beds for these people and shelter to give them Oh, sure But there's a church in town that is almost outperforming the city of boulder. Well, it's actually two churches I think you're right, but yeah And that's a disgrace. It's a disgrace to our system. It is a disgrace. Although I do want to give a shout out to You know hope Who is the organization that organizes the sleeping areas in the in the churches? You know, there are There's journey church and honestly, I'm embarrassed to say this But I think it's changed recently and so I don't know about the second churches right now Yeah, I don't know what they are either But I'd also like to give a shout out to dj k-wub k-wub That's all I just wanted to give a shout out to you to see like Like a good diamond to show yeah, right And and you know, we have the veterans community project. I think it's important to talk about them a little bit What's that the veterans community project which was is is being built on land that was donated by an evil developer And Right, um, so it was donated to a group of veterans who understands what it is like to have Been in the military in the united states without a draft where they essentially use you up and You know, some people make it and And get tough and get life skills and all of that stuff And those are the ones that are running the veterans community project. Some people get used up And you know have a really hard time Reintegrating into society. That's right. They're victims of the system as well Uh-huh. Yeah, although I really have to say Victim of the system is one of the things that you talk about a lot before you have held office And so once you get in and figure out how complicated it is and then you don't actually know the answer It's something that you say a lot less So think about that I do know that like a lot of my friends that did go into the military were basically tricked into joining Uh, with promises and whatnot and then they showed they get weeks and weeks of training to become a soldier But they get zero training on the way back out to become a normal person again whose job it isn't to kill everybody Yeah That's a tough line to draw And like our the way that our system is set up at this point We do sort of use up those people and just kind of like good luck turning back into a normal person or whatever And living back in normal society again Yeah, well, so they're building a tiny home village and tiny homes is one of those keywords that everybody who thinks about Low-cost housing says ah, that's the solution Well, no, it's it's not not a good solution at all because first of all They all have to have the same city hookups, you know sewer water electricity and stuff as a whole house does or Or you know a multifamily building does but they're really little So you need a lot a lot of hookups and no through the most expensive part of the building Um, but what they are really good for is if you have post traumatic stress Or a traumatic brain injury, you know living on top of somebody else who also has some kind of a problem like that Is really really hard So the uh, you know and long had that because we have what's called permanent supporting housing permanent supportive housing in the suites right and it it's a former hotel and Uh without a lot of case management in there People start not getting along And and it's a problem because they're all living on top of each other So tiny homes are a really great way to give people their own space while they make the transition from Traumatized homelessness back to Uh a more stable member of society I appreciate your insight on that. It's obviously like a piece of what would help a part of that community But it's obviously not the whole idea. Yeah. Well, you know and if they did that with Um with like the people that are coming out of Afghanistan now, you know, you wouldn't need two years Which is how long the veterans community project Um hopes that people will stay before they're ready to to move on to having their own place and their own job and all of that, right? Um, but the could do that for three months instead of just getting turned loose You know, where's your family? Well, you know, we have um We have a of a transition hostel You know 25 30 miles from Where where your family is and where your friends are and where you went to college, whatever it is, you know And so, um, you know, you'd live there For three months while you're getting your feet on the ground and look for jobs and figure out how the skills you lived in the military transfer into the private sector and And maybe it wouldn't be so traumatic When that happens to people and right now that's happening to a lot of people And right now the united states is still trying to decide whether we welcome the people that You know, save the lives of our veterans In afghanistan or whether we're going to decide that they're immigrants and we don't like them So I you know, I hope we make the right decision about that Um, all I can say is that you know as a public servant who is going to have a job Next year because they don't have an appointment. Um, You know, I'm gonna try to help coordinate call me up You know or send me an email or something But if you're an organization a nonprofit that wants to find a way to host some people out of afghanistan Call me up because I my time is fungible. You know, it it expands To feel the need We I think we hear your heart and I really appreciate where you're coming from on that Oh Yeah, we like that and you know, I mean, it's really sad because I can't really make any noise with snapping my fingers Oh, you have that problem Anyway, I wanted to do a quick segment on the show. Yeah, uh, this segment is called pop quiz hot show I'm already a hot shot. You don't have to show me I know I know but did you ever say I'm gonna be speed? That's it's a speed I'm gonna ask you four questions now these are multiple choice questions They are not intended to be difficult questions. The answers are a d a a And it's just sort of like to touch base and we got a pretty good view of who you are and where your heart's at We like you very much. We're glad that you're gonna have your seat again Some people are All right Question number one What is the job of the public servant? Is it a to serve the public? Or is it be to build personal wealth or is it seen to get us all fucking killed? Unfortunately, we can't do see it's a of course You told me it was a it was a it's amazing how many people think it's be There is almost no way to take any profit from being On the city council and they pay us a thousand dollars a month So You know, so the thing is that if you're gonna really do a good job on the city council You must have already built your personal wealth Perfect. Perfect. Wonderful. How do you get now question two? I don't know if you saw my interview with the mayor I saw a little of he is a big star wars fan and I love to fucking hate him for it So question two What is the dumbest thing about star wars? Is it a Han Solo understands wookie language, but apparently refuses to speak it himself Is it all is it b the central conflict of the franchise is essentially a question of which big thing to blow up Or is it c Jedi swords don't have a stun setting Or is it d all of the above because star wars is a stupid show for babies I I know it's d and I don't know I don't know which comment to make right because because of first of all, uh, I was 13 years old When star trek, which was the other right answer superior franchise Yeah came out, you know, and um, so I spent three years in love with mr. Spock I'm very tired. I mean, thank you. Love that one Yeah, yeah, I can do that Nailed it. It still works. It works great. Yeah, the only thing the other actual because I've been a science fiction fan for longer than the four star trek, right? but Is is that um, there's really only been one science fiction movie ever made As it's called blade runner And if you have never seen that it's it's a film noir Yes, it's like if star trek went wrong, that would be our answer of the world. It's like it star wars on earth looks like blade runner Yeah, right. And that's I mean except for the rain. I think that's what we're having Yeah I love that film I agree with you actually and it that is also a better franchise than star wars Yeah, and there's like two movies Now there's two of them and they're both good, which is almost as many as star wars Out of their franchise Yeah, uh, great. Perfect answer uh question three hot shot Um, what is the best way to help the homeless folks in our community? Is it a Enact legislation and partner with local charities and surrounding communities to provide resources based on the actual needs of that community At a scale that legitimately impacts them Or is it be have the police take their blankets and then at gunpoint politely ask them to stop existing Well, it's a it's a I have something else, you know to say about that please because I actually believe that the legislation and the funding Needs to be done at the federal level. It's sort of like gun legislation You know homes people can cross boundaries and they're pretty stinking good at it But if you expect boulder county to fund colorado's homelessness, you're going to be disappointed. So, you know um, municipality of a population center needs to have the means to um Give a basic level of care to its own homeless So that we do not cause migrations You know, I I talked to a homeless guy that lives here. Well, a near homeless guy, you know, he's he's a member of the precariat Yeah, and um, well, I think there's a bigger number in that group that people might realize people almost about to be homeless Yeah, almost about to be homeless and that's where he is and he was homeless for a while And he was in southern california when he was homeless and he you know, he worries about me I try to help him, but you know You can't help everybody person by person You know, you can spend a lot of time on it and sometimes it works Um, but anyway, he's told me, you know, if I have to move out Of my mobile home I'm going to have to go back to southern california because i'm not going to spend a winter here. I wouldn't survive That's why it's a real issue we're talking about on this show and I appreciate your candor I think what we're discovering through these interviews is that it is a problem that longmont needs to deal with with our Homeless community, but it's somebody we have to work with our surrounding communities to make sure that we're all doing something That's right. Nobody if if one person start if one community has more resources It's going to shunt all the people to that community instead of Spreading out the resources throughout the county. Yes, that's actually right and you know, the county is just too small Right, so it was I think a lot because of boulder county to give just a completely unrelated example um, that people worked really hard to get this State law passed that says that each municipality or county can um have its own firearms regulations You know, how well that's going to work that is not going to work, you know We live we live on the edge of boulder county and and we live on the edge of way only You know, you think that any Any regulations that we put on firearms are going to have any meaning whatsoever I'm not educated on this subject. I'll give you well, I was it was rhetorical. I know I'll just put it out there Yeah, and but but homelessness is like that, you know You need to get any kind of regulation enacted at the highest level of government possible because you're trying to regulate something Or someone because I don't want to, you know, objectify actual human beings That is mobile Right and and so, you know, you need to have a consistent approach to managing it In that in that case in both of those cases So, you know, we do our best with with homeless people and and I think we have a A lot of pretty humane policies But they are policies That don't come together and form a solution, you know, when when one person Loses it Then they can have a co-responder team talk to them, you know, so that's it's it's a point solution But it's not a general solution So I and I will tell you I can completely confess. I do not know what the solution is I know that it does not involve sweeping them out of the city and it does not involve Building fewer houses or apartments. Yeah I was starting to do a politician. We were talking about the homelessness problem I say, how do you fix this and he goes, oh childhood education Like if only these kids would bring home a straight a report card, they're ruined without homes You know, that might help the homelessness problem in 25 years, but it's not going to help the one we have No, was that vaguely? Maybe it was vaguely So because I wanted to crawl right through the cable And argue with him When I was watching you, there's no reason for me to argue with him They'll be out of office in a few months if I talked him out of everything and into my position on everything There'd be no point of that. They couldn't change anything But you know, he and I are like almost neighbors. He lives in prospect Am I living well rich because I eat money, you know, but But close enough to be neighbors You know, but but what he says he said on your show That if we want to get rid of a lot of long months problems and make housing costs less We should just let the neighborhood go to hell Let's see But that is what he said I mean, I like Brian personally, but we do disagree on boy almost everything Because you can't not like him just like we like you but like uh, we disagree with politicians all the time It's our job to kind of like maneuver those things in the community and not make it our real sticking point Question for hot shots Here's another question. This is the final question Average americans are facing an historic financial crisis because of the virus that shut down so much of our society last year true During that same year Billionaires got even wealthier and now have time and funding for joy rides and outer space While some americans are paying their bills on credit cards that literally have the phrase chase freedom on it Oh How can our nation ever bounce back from this crisis? Is it a tax the billionaires? I want you to know that even though I am not a billionaire not even close That I voted for every opportunity to tax myself In every election that I've ever voted the ability to earn more money than you need then You're not paying enough taxes. That's right. And most wealth in this country is inherited wealth So you're talking about motherfuckers that didn't work for a young daddy and shit work for that And so like it's it's kind of a nuanced issue, but it's not about like these bootstrap people are just better and smarter than us That's not what it is We have to tax the billionaires That is again. Well, you told me the answers in advance I try to be really transparent about that, which is my my third campaign priority. I've never taken a test that I didn't cheat on Sorry, I can't agree with you Kids here's a note if you're in school and you're having trouble with school just realize your main job is to get out of school Just learn enough to be able to teach yourself and you'll be fine learn how to learn that's what my granddaddy told me Please the teachers and get out of their way. You'll be fine. Don't worry about college So I Enjoy education and and I know some very fine teachers that I really We honor we honor teachers even though you didn't well I don't I don't think it's dishonorable to tell the kids not worry so much about grades and shit Nobody when you try and get a job in some years, nobody gives a god damn if you got a d in history class, I promise Yeah, yeah, margin any last notes for the folks. She's running for office, but like she's gonna win Well, so yeah, we should throw the party for you now. I'm here. I'm here because you know, I don't have to run a campaign and and I'm really relieved about that because I Didn't know what to expect but uh I don't like to think of myself as on the sidelines for this election. I'd like to think of myself as a wild card There's stuff somebody has to say Yeah, there's stuff somebody has to say like, you know, you're wrong about the traffic Stop trying To keep us from building the housing we need because you're worried about whether you can park in front of your house Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah Because first of all you've got it wrong. It's not going to make more traffic traffic It's going to make less traffic and second that space in front of your house doesn't belong to so Everybody needs to stop Circle of interest and realize that what we have is a really fine city That is on the brink of one of those transitions You know between kind of a small agricultural town and a real city And we've surrounded ourselves with open space. So we have to do an absolutely Perfect job of urban design in order to make it a fine little gem of the city that's got it's like San Francisco scaled down or even Denver scaled down, you know, we want to have all the things that they have because Our children deserve that and you know our well to do children are going to get that Right because you know, their parents don't work 90 hours a week They only have one job or one and a half jobs if it's a mom and a dad that you know, somebody probably works at time and So they have time to take their kid Into regional team hockey and it doesn't matter if the skating rink is down in Superior or Lafayette or wherever it is or up in Fort Collins Because they don't have to long commute so they can just drive their kids around all weekend, right? Or you know, we have a really fine symphony orchestra that's about to lose its venue because The deal was that it it belongs to the school district and the school district is having a hard time giving them space anymore And we have a bunch of other, you know, we have a ballet for children That doesn't have a place to perform and we have Uh, you know, uh a corral like, you know, uh Arias, you know that kind of stuff, right and they don't have a place to perform and if kids Have to be able to go down to the Denver Center for performing arts to see stuff like that Two-thirds of our kids aren't never Going to have a chance to see that they're going to internalize that that's not for me That's not for me. That's right. And so social equity means that we have to build long money into a complete town You know, northern colorado sweet spot the gem Do that. Yeah, but you have to stop believing. We can't Make us seem like assholes. We like you. Oh, well, thank you for coming to meet me today and being on my stupid little show I really appreciate you. I feel like I went over time. You didn't there's no such thing as that They'll do whatever we do I just gave him an episode about me and a monkey Thank you for coming on the show. Thank you for watching the show and uh, you know, whatever, we'll see you another time