 Well, my connection to Tōkana actually started from day one. We had a big welcome from Michael Stiedman in our Porfidae. Very first time I walked through these doors into this marae and onto campus. Right through my undergraduate degree, Tōkana was a really important place for me, not just to connect with my studies but to connect with a community and make lifelong friends. In biology, we're now, I think, 36 years down the road, but we still have students from, you know, decades ago coming back and checking in with us who are now, you know, lecturers, academics, or just working out in the community. We did papers that did have Tōkana, and I managed to staffily avoid any and all interaction with any support programs right up to my final year, because I did a biological science paper at stage one. I worked it so much, I did it three times. So I was in a bio-lab at the beginning of what, you know, was going to be my last semester, and I got a tap on the shoulder, turned around on the mic walker, and he said, well, got these tutorials, come along, see what you think, and then kind of go from there. And so I remember that quite clearly, that interaction, going into the MacGregor rooms, meaning getting my best grade at the university. Notwithstanding that was my third attempt at the paper, but the other two I wasn't really trying. So that was my first interaction with the Tōkana program through biological sciences, but mainly my first connection with Mike Walker. Then when I started at the university in my role as kaiarahi at the Faculty of Science, essentially it was Mike that appointed me into my position and ment with me, so it was a good returning home in a lot of respects and coming back under the tutelage again of Mike. During the early 90s also there was a series of hui held, some held here, in this wharewa Nungarau vals around Māori and Pacific achievement, and Mike started having tutorials, collecting data and taking an informed approach around things that might work for Māori and Pacific students and called it Tōkana. The program was born out of a desire to do better for our Māori and Pacific students. Tōkana is present across all faculties now these days. It didn't used to be though, so over time one faculty might have looked to how it was going in another faculty, their neighbouring faculty, or where there were students who were perhaps doing double degrees or were studying across faculties and from there it has just grown and I think that's a beautiful example of the expansion of its whakapapa. I think that it's grounded in our customs. If we think about these things, these aren't new, the idea that Tōkana me te taina i roti te whakaaro ko tai. So the fact that we can still practice these ancient traditions and contemporary times at a place like this, is also providing opportunities for our Māori and Pacific students as they come through to maybe have their first experience with their culture here too is gratifying in a lot of ways. Many have said over the last 10 years that they had come to Waipapa Tomataro not knowing their wider whānau and hapū connectedness, but through to a kana, they got to meet people who might have had the same tūpuna that had been from the same marae, the same hapū or the same iwi and have also had that crucial initial exposure to te reo Māori or their other the languages of their Pacifica heritage as well. And so I'm super proud that Tōkana has facilitated that possibility in reality for our tōeda. To be able to join such a legacy of success is actually just quite unbelievable really because you meet all of the alumni that have come before us and they're just kind of like people you'd walk by at home, they're like your aunties, your uncles. We have alumni now all across the sector, if you like, in places of importance and influence. Having come from the tōa kana program have been committed to the tōa kana program as students, as staff members and just being around it too. So I'm proud of all of those things. To know that I'm here like 30 years later being a part of the future that I guess Michael Walker wanted it to be. I'm part of the Whakapapa as a student but also as a person that supported the program, advocated for the program, fought for the program and continue to do that. So I'll never not be part of the tōa kana whānau.