 Hey everybody, Michael Stubbs back here in the McGuire's training garage for another installment of shop talk and today I've got a very special guest with me. Bricklin. You are the lead product developer Dude for the product we're gonna talk about today, which is hybrid paint coating. That's the one Paint coating but it doesn't say ceramic anymore. It says it's hybrid polysiloxane. Why doesn't it say ceramic? There is no ceramic in the product so we don't say ceramic But it's a paint coating. It's a coating without ceramic. Yeah Okay, so you're used to SIO to ceramic coating. Yeah How how is this a coating if there's no ceramic in it? And what does all that mean? So technically if it's a coating, okay, there is a measurable thickness on the paint surface That lasts you can actually measure this amount is on the surface of the car as opposed to a wax or a synthetic sealant They'll it'll be on the surface You'll see the effects of wax the protection the beating Okay, but you can't measure the thickness on the surface with the traditional car wax Okay, but with this you can yes with this in fact we know that While the product was being developed and we're playing around with it here Is we're getting to know it ourselves if we lay a tape line down? We apply this product to you know, half of the hood of the car. Yep, and then we let it cure Featuring true cure cross-linking. Let's get to that in a minute. Okay, Brooklyn But when we let it cure we pull that tape line you can actually feel the ridge of it There's that kind of you will see a difference. You will feel the difference for sure So it has that that that's okay without Ceramic, it's correct. What it would talk to them Tell me about this true cure cross-linking technology. What's this all about? So the way that this product works is once you've applied it to the paint surface. Okay, it will bond Cure to itself and to the paint at the same time It takes longer to cure to bond together into the surface And that may gives it that durability. So we've got a measurable film thickness of a Chemical basically this hybrid polysiloxane. We'll get to that in a second Measurable film thickness of something that cross-links to bond to itself Slowly and very tenaciously and then also grabs on to the paint with that much more Ferocity right it grabs up. So you've got more of it there. It doesn't break apart It's a little bit more resistant to Exfoliation I think you guys like to call it rubbing it with a towel and weather chemicals Everything in the car could get exposed to this will be more tenacious like you said in bonding and protecting chemicals yep Acid rain. Yeah alkaline washes. Yep. Absolutely. How how how extreme we talking about here extreme I mean, we've used the washes. We've used the wheel cleaners. We've used chemical cleaners You've used wheel cleaners. Yeah on so our hot rooms chrome wheel cleaner as a pH of light 3.5 it's very acidic right and the hot rims wheel entire cleaners very alkaline. Yep So what you're saying then is that that measurable film thickness right that the sheer volume of this that is on the paint super thin Yeah, it's there. Yeah, super thin relative to the average Joe Yeah, but but relative to a wax for a sealant. There's a lot of it there Correct now we can actually measure it and the way it bonds to itself cross-links and holds on so tenaciously And also to the paint. Yep, that gives us great durability. I mean, there's a lot of it and it holds on really tight It's resistant to some exfoliation up that wiping it with a towel kind of thing that would break down Lesser waxes and sealants and stuff like that over time. So we're not talking about a ceramic coating We're talking about a hybrid polysiloxane. Yep coating now This is where the chemistry comes into play here And that's why you and this this team that we have that developed these products are so good at what you do because Chemists that are doing crazy stuff here, right? Luckily, we have as you know an incredible team of chemists. Yes that We can give a challenge to come up with a product that a consumer can use Okay, that will be a coating that they've heard about guy that will give you incredible protection But it's something you don't need to do with like an installer. We can offer this to a regular consumer Okay, so you can get all the benefits of a Ceramic coating and here's where the chemistry comes into play because ceramic that SiO 2 thing that everybody's so used to hearing about And this doesn't have it polysiloxanes basic silicones and SiO 2 from a chemical standpoint, they're all pretty closely related to each other, but Now we're able to put this into a package that anybody can purchase and use themselves at home And get what that incredible water beading that film thickness that durability All that stuff and I'm very easy to apply package. Yeah, when we give the challenge to the chemists We don't say you have to use this We say here's the goal create something. That's easy. That's long-lasting. That's gives you great protection They go away into the lab. They play with their chemicals in their little toolbox and they come out and we go Well, that doesn't have ceramic in it and then they'll tell us proofs in the pudding right use it Test it. We'll show you what we've thrown up against it That's why we've done this. Okay. All right. So why why have you done this? It's an aerosol. Yeah Who's got coatings in an aerosol? This is a little you we wanted it to be easier to use than a traditional coating Usually it's the liquid and you got to spread it. It's it takes some technique Okay, experience training sometimes by putting it into an aerosol. It's easy to apply to the pad This is just our even coat microfiber pad. Yep. Simple as that. That's it and it spreads real well So it's we tailored it for again if someone is interested in coding their car. They're willing to invest some time Read the instructions do a little bit of homework This is an easy way to apply it. It's not all that terribly different really from applying a liquid wax or synthetic See all right, Brooklyn with this one can I can do the whole car We've given you enough to do no matter the size of your vehicle at least two coats a full-size SUV I can do two coats with the one camp. That's correct and enough for touch-ups in case I missed a spot I'm not most likely have a little bit left over to do that. All right That's that's that's pretty fantastic enough to do two coats Two coats. Do I need to wait between? Do they need to wait between if if you want to do a second coat after the initial coat just to make sure you haven't missed any spots We would recommend wait an hour and then you can do the process again Okay, and that'll just ensure you have even coverage everywhere. I mean we've got this aerosol just I'm gonna yep Just a I'm not actually doing this one prime the pad a little bit with the product at first, but then we're literally just I Mean that kind of looks like the way you'd apply a wax to a car I mean a lot of people do it in a circular motion, but then we're gonna cross hatch this and go back and forth That's it small section. Just like you did Make sure you're covering the area. Okay, we recommend the cross hatch to make sure you've gone back and hit everything Now it's and I let it applied it. I let it dry till it cures and hazes over, right? Nope, that would be traditional wax if you do that. You're gonna be waiting for a very long time. Yeah, it's not gonna happen It's not gonna happen around and wait apply it the directions on the box to follow this is not you guys worked hard Yeah, this is not your grandfather's pace wax right this It's at this point ready to wipe off and that wipe off process This can feel a little stickier. Maybe that's gonna be a strong word You'll feel the film. Yes as you're buffing it off You'll do its thing. You don't need to put a lot of pressure. No, it's not like you're wiping away Uh, you know pace wax from the 80s where you're gonna get a a workout from it You're wiping off the film and it doesn't necessarily just wipe off like that. You're gonna work over the area Yeah, and be thorough with wiping a few times flip that towel Look we give you I mean this kid is really really inclusive. Yeah, so I mean it comes with the coating It comes with two towels, which we recommend for the coating removal. Okay, it comes with our M122 Prep that you will use before you apply the coating I want to dive a little deeper into the prep in just a minute, but continue on that'll make sure there's nothing on the surface Okay, and it'll allow you to have the best of bonding because the paint is clean and clear So when it comes to the towels, we've talked about this for for years here at McGuire's is proper towel management this That's really not how you use a microfiber towel with this. It's even more critical, right? So we want to fold that towel in half fold it in half again. This gives you eight unique sides, right? Do your top absolutely so as you're doing that initial wipe and you're starting to feel a little bit of the drag But you can see it starting to come off the paint surface And when it's getting close and it's almost gone flip the towel Yeah, they're fine a little while you don't have to get in a lot hard. It's you're not working hard doing this That's right. Okay. Yep, and you're going to work around those eight sides of that towel. We give you the second towel What do you do with all this the towels and the applicator when you're done with this process? The way the coating works is it'll get on to the microfiber surface. It'll become extremely hydrophobic Because the products extremely hydrophobic so that water is gonna run off the towel It won't become absorbent anymore because you have this coating on the surface That can either be disposed of okay or put in your you know junk towel pile for for general cleaning Okay, don't use it on paint. You don't use it on paint. Yeah, because yep the coating. It's okay. Yep. All right Applications easy, but to get really the best performance out of the product Just like you would with any wax or sealant you want to make sure that you prep that paint properly To begin with what do you really need to do? Anyone that's watched any of our training videos can walk you through the steps on how to prep car paint, right? So that's the same thing You'd always want to wash the vehicle make sure it's clean Feel it. Mm-hmm. If it's not smooth to the touch as smooth as glass you're gonna clay it That sounds very smooth as I'm not hearing a thing. Yeah, there's nothing going on here, right? Once you've clayed the car Compound make sure they're you know the swirls the light scratches the paint is prepped Looks great Once you've done that that's where the M122 comes into effect Make sure there's none of the oils from polishing or compounding You have the clear surface Then that's when you go with the coating what we want to do is what you want to do Really is get that paint looking as good as you can possibly get it or as good as you want it to be This is all kind of a personal thing here. How good you want your car to look what you are satisfied with is Really what's important because we all have different Wants desires and needs when it comes to this kind of thing the more work you put in beforehand. Yes the clear The paint finishes mm-hmm will allow for better bonding, right? Which will give you better durability especially if you've got the bonded contaminants that make the paint Rough to the touch right you got I mean that's industrial fallout You've got road grime and all the stuff that's stuck to the paint, right? The product is designed to really attach itself grab on to the paint Yes, so if you at the very least you want to clay the vehicle to get rid of Yeah, that those above-surface bonded contaminants so that this can get down to the paint and hang on to it To give it the really good job because you didn't make this to bond to dirt exactly, right? It's like life right the more you work you put into it the better off if the result is we tell you We want this thing to really do its cross-linking magic. Okay one week a week one week And that's a lot of coatings require a longer cure time. This is not a traditional wax What will happen is over time that bond will continue to happen We've even seen it as we're testing day two or three after you've applied it We've hit it with water. You see the bead and it's you know a crazy hydrophobic bead a couple days later It's even a bigger be more resistance. So When you put this on your car if you want to test how effectively it beads water Don't apply it in the morning and get it wet in the afternoon to see how it beats. You know you want to make sure The car is in an area or it's the time of day That it's not gonna get wet you're not gonna do this coating and then Afterwards hit it with a detailer. You want to just let it cure. Okay by itself 24 hours before it gets what I mean you apply it you have to drive your car. You gotta go someplace You know you can go about your life But we want this thing to work its magic like a coating again. This isn't a traditional wax Just because it's no ceramic in it doesn't mean it's not a coating But it still has a lot of the same behaviors because the polysiloxanes and sio2 are so closely related They gotta let it do its magic Okay, and it takes a cure time to do that. Okay, all right So you'll actually see the beating improve as that cross-linking and curing absolutely goes through its course cool So for those of you that are used to applying your waxes in synthetic sealants with a DA polisher Don't don't try it with this one, okay We are leaving behind a measurable film thickness and in order to do that We want this very methodical cross-hatch application That's the only part that really kind of deviates from how you're used to applying a wax or sealant But that ensures that you get that nice uniform coating so you get that uniform performance across the vehicle So no DA hand application super super easy So after hand application and the full cure time What can they expect durability wise from the high group paint coat? This would give it over a year over a year over a year. Yep. Okay, so with that simple application You're gonna get a year's worth right more than a year's worth of durability Yep, the water beating the self-cleaning characteristics the ease of maintenance all of that with one Simple application that's pretty and that's the benefit of a coating over it. Let's say a traditional wax Perfect wonderful You know, Brooklyn is you're talking about applying this kind of straight line this back and forth cross-hatch kind of pattern But invariably when people are applying waxes and whatnot right doing this by hand They get a little bit of it. They wipe onto the plastic trim or something We're gonna stain trim if we get this on here. What do you what do you do? No, I mean this is designed for paint But if you get the overspray on trim you wipe it off. You're good to go don't need to sell the car It's not damaged. Okay Just wipe it hurt the surface Stain plastic trim. I don't know like that. So you just said it's designed for paint Yep, so we don't really want people using a glass on the plastic trim and no, it's not designed for it So it won't give you the same effect as it would for the automotive paint So stick to the paint if you get some overspray you wipe somewhere clean towel wipe it off Keep going. Is that easy because we talked about chemistry earlier the chemistry of getting something to attach to glass It's really different than getting it to attach to paint completely different surface. Yes hardness. It's it's a different animal Yeah, so something that's really designed for paint is should be used on paint Not on glass because they just don't exactly it's not gonna hurt anything No, but it's not gonna give you the performance that you might be expecting right exactly Then what do you have to do to maintain it properly? We're gonna know we that's a great question We recommend our hybrid ceramic the detailer. We have the spray wax that you use Yep, right, okay, and then hybrid ceramic washing wax is also a great maintenance tool Okay, that's really all you need. I mean you bought the coating for the coating to perform That's you bought the coating for the coating to perform and that's that incredible water beating those the really high contact angles Right that makes those beads of water look almost like ball bearings of water on the surface It makes the vehicle almost self-cleaning right right when you drive that vehicle when it's raining And that car is in motion that That rain just gets blown right off the car and it kind of takes a lot of the dirt with it You want to maintain that water beating so if you put Something else on top of it. It does not be like that That last product that you put on is going to give you that surface characteristic And you may actually mask some of the beating correct, which is why yeah, Brooklyn is recommending why we are recommending Using the hybrid ceramic detail spray the hybrid ceramic spray wax and the hybrid ceramic wash and wax Yep, so that you're not putting something on top of this coating that could Mask or hide down some of that. That's exactly right. Simple as that. That's it Okay, you don't need to nor do you really want to put a wax on top of it, right? Yeah, you bought it for the coating but for the coating with the wax the coating is the paint protection That's exactly right and and we've had people for years come to us Put a sealant on my car now what wax do I need right and you don't because they both are intended to do the same thing As is this just to a much higher level, right exactly. I mean and I get it I think we're all certainly at McGuire's when you love your car. You do something to it You just want to keep doing it. It's that it's the male yoga, right? It's this is my workout. This is what I enjoy For this one do the coating let it cure easy maintenance really just keeps it looking great and maintaining and performing its best sounds amazingly simple it is it's Super proud of the lab with this one. I mean they really created a product that Takes that professional technology that they've people have read about or seen about or heard about and make it that anyone can do it so it Takes that coating technology the coating behavior the coating characteristics, right? Without the struggles sometimes the plug a lot of coatings if you don't wipe them off soon enough They they start to they set up pretty quickly you get high spots You have to compound it off start all over again, and you basically we've heard the horror stories of right Coatings that have been put on improperly how difficult it is to remove We had to take all those aspects out of it where it's you know, here's what you need to do Here's how you do it Sounds hard enough to make a coating to give you all the characteristics and the performance that you're looking for But then to actually make it that easy to apply that that sounds like a pretty that's the magic really in there Do it? Absolutely. So Now you can get at home yourself All those benefits and characteristics of a coating and the protection on your paint and something that's that easy to apply Yep, that's right It's almost almost like waxing your car, but you end up with a measurable film thick Absolutely and a coating that's chemical resistant that incredible water beading almost self-cleaning Super washing a car washing the car with a coating on it is an absolute delight It cleans so easily it dries off so much easier. It stays cleaner. It looks great. It makes Taking care of the car just easier in every aspect the outside of it once a coatings on there And it's it's on there the washing the drying everything and part of what McGuire's has been been doing with with way We've been training people for years is to help you Make it easier to take care of your car a lot of people try to over complicate it Right, they think if you're not putting in a ton of work How good can the result be right and we've been teaching people for years How to make it easier to take care of your car and this kind of takes that almost to a new level doesn't it? If I can do it Anyone can do it. That's that's the test at McGuire's Brooklyn can use it Anyone can use it your product developer not a detailer right so Brooklyn. I think to summarize We're talking here about a paint coating that is so easy and forgiving to use that you don't need to be a certified installer To apply it, which means it should be pretty readily available Which leads to this question? Where do you get it any of the automobile retail stores will be carrying on the shelves and then online Won't be difficult to find simple as that simple as that anywhere you normally shop for our products Yep, for the most part you can find for the most part. It'll be there fantastic Brooklyn thanks again for being here today on shop talk Thank you and thanks to you and the team for putting together this amazing product That's gonna let all of you get a really simple and easy introduction to putting a true coating on your car to give you that durability that measurable film thickness that incredible water beating with Virtually self-cleaning characteristics on the paint if you have any questions about this product or anything else you can reach us at our Solutions hub phone numbers on the back of every bottle of product that we make like you're probably already watching this on YouTube We've got all kinds of videos in our library here on YouTube Spend some time perusing those you can learn how to do all the prep work that we talked about earlier Otherwise, we're on Twitter Instagram Facebook. We're all over the place with all kinds of training information Thanks for joining me on this episode of shop talk and look forward to seeing you again really soon You