 All right, if you see big bright lights, you can be in one of two places, either the studio or the football ground. We're in the studio today. Arjun Pandit is to my right, Ishwak Ahmed to my left, and I'm Siddhantani. This is for 20 grams and we're talking news again. I League specifically and the controversial game between Real Kashmir and Minerva Punjab, which was supposed to be held on Feb 18th in Srinagar. Now, if you remember, Minerva Punjab decided not to travel to Srinagar for that game, citing security concerns and which sparked off a chain of events. Of course, legal proceedings were initiated because this is a tournament that's been scheduled in advance and they have commitments to go and play these matches. The home team, Real Kashmir, maintained that and also the AIFF maintained that the situation on the ground was in fact conducive to playing football. However, the second team did not show up. Now, yesterday, in a complete U-turn, the All India Football Federation has sided with Minerva Punjab. They have said that the match will now be given in light of the prevalent situation and circumstances in the country and in Kashmir in particular, will be replayed anytime after March 6th at a venue that's feasible for the AIFF and for both the clubs involved. I know you guys are here. We'll keep you waiting for a couple of minutes because... Time to speak on this, though. We did a little bit of fact-finding before we started this conversation. So, we've spoken to Shameem Mehraj, who is the owner of Real Kashmir FC. We've spoken to Ranjit Bajaj, who runs Minerva Punjab FC. And of course, we've spoken to Sunandodhar, the CEO of the iLeague and a senior functionary of the All India Football Federation. So, let's hear them basically summarize or react to the order or the decision that was passed yesterday. It's just vindication for us that, in fact, the first people to accept our stand were the security forces who first cancelled the second division match immediately after our match. And then, immediately after that, Real Kashmir also kind of agreed with our stand because they themselves said, please postpone the match to Delhi or East Bengal. So, their counter-argument being that... And the third now vindication is by the executive committee who says the same thing that even though Minerva Punjab asked for written assurances and all they wanted was some written assurance from the home team, it was not provided to them. So, all along, we've been just saying that if we had got some security assurances, we would have gone, which we got, we didn't get anything. So, I'm going into a place where we don't feel safe, it's not right for my players, as simple as that. We feel very vindicated. And I think all this could have been avoided if, I think in the beginning, they wouldn't have, Real Kashmir wouldn't have made, and yes, they wouldn't have made an eco issue. Because it's not going to be an eco year. And if their standing was at, you know, all the 15, 16, 17, everything was normal. But on the 28th, when East Bengal's match was there, then it was not normal. That is true. How can you say 14th was the attack? And that means if 17th was our match, we were supposed to be there on the 15th. And we were supposed to practice on the 16th and do a press conference on the 16th as well. And that is one day before the match. And 14th, the attack happened, 15th, the whole Minerva was closed, the airport was closed, everything was closed. How are we supposed to get there? It was a beautiful 17th. Yes. Then because they hadn't booked the tickets. AFC. AFC, yes. That's okay, it's a, you know, they are at the end of the Champions Club. Yes. And this is the least we can do to accommodate colleagues. They say, okay, you do it on 18th. But then first it was about, you know, not playing as a tribute to soldiers. So, you know, respect. Then it went to a different tangent. Then it went to something else. And then what was the ugliest part is the, you know, hate speech that started about some of our players, you know. Yeah, picking on individual players and their social media accounts and this and that. Yes. And, you know, that's what we told them. So, we are ready to play. We'll be very happy to play, but only in front of our home court. Why should we, we denied this voice? Although we have lost the title only because we played away. So we don't want to, you know, finish that way. We want to end it here. I mean, that's the least we owe to the fans. So, Sandeep and I both have conveyed to them. If he's told, yes, just follow the rulebook. If they follow the rulebook, there is no, you know, condition for a rematch. It's very clear. Why did they force us to go to the field then? Why did the match, the minister asked us to wear the uniform. Why did he check the lineup? Why did, you know, then the referee shook our hand at the end. But again, our purpose for God, we want to play, not politicize it. Yeah. Or, you know, go into name calling and stuff. So we are there to play. We are not into pulling anyone down. We believe our purpose in Kashmir is higher. We play to be. I mean, the love that you have got from Kashmir, from the rest of the country. It's unprecedented. So we just want to, you know, build on it. Build on it and keep that sort of positive environment going for your club and for your fans and everybody. You know, this is impacting also, obviously, Lone Star and who are playing. In fact, in football in Kashmir, that is the most tragic part. We've taken Lone Star to the lead in Turkey. It has taken two clubs a humongous effort, hopefully, and it's worth the right football and see that. And I'm proud to say today that across country, we've got the highest home game attendance. At the end of the day, we are all human beings. It has a very negative effect on the team. Teams are turning up. You know, it's not how it is supposed to be tomorrow. We may also complete. We're not going to play, but that's not how it is. We've got so much love across India, from Kerala to Kolkata, you know. And even when we played East Bengal, you know, we had about 200 fans there. There are about 400 fans at the end of the game. Everyone hurt each other. Yeah, that I believe is the real football, the message there. So that way it's quite negative. But again, we should not lose the fact that whatever someone else may be doing will affect football in Kashmir. And that's why I hope that the airs are also understand that we should not become hostage to someone's whims and fancies. Okay, so that's an unsurprising set of reactions, I guess. What do you think is the U-turn of the AFF? Well, I used to think that when a team came to the field, everything was going as per the rules and I think the match commissioner on match referee report must have been that a team didn't come to the ground. So I think it should have been a straightforward decision. There were some such things in the past when we were talking. The most important thing is that we were talking about 18 feb earlier. When everything, even the match commissioner, everyone was there and the conditions were also worthy of playing. And at least they did pass. Exactly. Whether it was worthy or not, but the people who pass are clear. So later on, what exactly has happened later on? So as Sunandho must have explained to you, we will hear him saying more about it. And so let's, in fact, why don't we just do that? Let's go to Sunandho for a minute where he's actually explaining the process that the AFF went through. The thing is that obviously we were following the regulations and the regulations stated that the match commissioner's report and the LOC, that is the host team and the host association's report, if they say that the situation is conducive to hold the match, we'll go ahead with the match. And our people were there, match day minus three. And they were there, they roamed around, they spoke to the local administration and everyone assured that the match can go ahead as per schedule. And that was informed to Minar Baba Punjab. So as far as we were concerned, the new assets, the match was on schedule on 18th and Minar Baba did turn up. The matter was referred to the league committee. The league committee met both the clubs, both the clubs' version. And then the league committee felt that this is a decision because as per the regulations, if a team doesn't arrive, there's Article 22C, which, you know, a team can be taken out from the tournament for this particular year and also for the next year. And so the committee felt that whether that could be too harsh sentence, given the situation out there. Right. So they said that it's better that this matter is referred to the executive committee. Right. Since the executive committee wasn't due to meet anytime soon and we wanted a decision as early as possible, the executive committee felt that by circulation among the emergency committee members we can reach a conclusion. Emergency committee members felt that, yes, the match could have happened as per the reports that we have with us, but given the special situation that was there, the sensitive nature of the situation that was there. And since we want to make football a political out here, hmm, it's better we don't have, it's better that we have the match sometime later. Right. So the whole sort of politicization of this, of the situation seem to have come from one party, which is the visiting team in this case. And it seems like with this, all the decision making there will be no repercussions on that side for politicizing the whole scenario. Is that? Well, the thing is that obviously it was a special scenario. We have, we have in the past used Article 22C only once. Right. Remember 2012 when Mohan Bagan had moved out, refused to continue in the second half, 32C was implemented and then we went through a long arbitration process and it was proved that AI was correct there also. So, but the situation out here was definitely different than what it was there. And the ground realities were different. And I think that was what the emergency committee looked into. And they took their calls. In fact, the Delhi High Court also, also sort of heard this matter, but said that the court was not, is not really required to intervene in this scenario and the AFF is best positioned to intervene with it. In a situation where the visiting club did not come, they also said that we won't go to play the match. If you want to take our three-uncle, then take it. That time he said that. I don't know if he said it or not. The statement that he gave, he clearly wrote that we are not doing a match forfeit. We are just saying that it is not safe for our players to go there. No, sir. If you get a tweet on social media or not, because I remember that time we had shown him about it, he also said that if you want to take three-uncle from us, then take it because for us, security is more important than a league or a match or three points. I also heard that. So the conversation went off into many different directions. This was also the most difficult thing. If you take the issue of security and only talk about it, then it's okay. Maybe you can agree on that. But with security, then that thing went somewhere else. Where did it go? A lot of places. I think there are some players who have come with it. And when we talked to Ranjeet, the same question that you were talking about on social media isn't that in fact politicizing football and doesn't that have repercussions then based on how global sports bodies, what their rules are? I mean, as we were saying, if you score a player's goal and he gets his shirt off, and there is a message written on his banner, anything, then action is taken against him. Similarly, if a club does that, whether the club's owner is on their personal handle or the club's own handle, then first let's see what Ranjeet had to say about this. Not from Minarwa, only from me. It's a very different thing. Football is my passion because my job is something else. My job comes first before my passion. Passion is a very small thing. My job is that I train the Indian Armed Forces. In fact, one of my students this year itself in January has lost his life in the same place in Kulwama. So this is a thing which is very, very close to my heart and all my views. So typical time of football is a different thing that I don't have my personal view. And my personal views are very strong and I'm allowed to express them. No, no, that's fair enough. So why wouldn't you just leave it at that we don't have to play there? You take your point and do whatever it takes. No, that was a mostly different issue. I never said if you don't want to play at that we won't play them there. That the issue was that somebody who's trying to say that I want to play for the country and on the other side is loving Pakistan is not going to be okay with me. That was the issue. That was a different issue than not wanting to play them. Yeah, that's why a lot of these issues got... Also, it's been touching on a pleasure. We won't have much of an invitation to come. Fair enough. Yeah. We were there for two weeks. That's the different thing. We were the only ones to play. So that doesn't come back. We didn't want to go there. We went there even for an invitation to come. So I reached to the bathroom. The point there was security and that was my personal view because this is my job. I do it for a living and that's what we do. We know why is that's what it is. Business, football, that's what I show. So I'm wearing that on my back. We've been making our courses. That's what the problem is. It's not going to be right now. All people... And it is also my thing. Not even one step to see. We are not going to have 50 accounts. So I don't want people saying that this to get to two different things. Fair enough. They are different things. But yet, even when you are tweeting from your personal account, you are saying that you are saying that Minerva Punjab is not going. Or it's not okay with this. So are you, for example, concerned about any repercussions about these kind of political statements from AFC or FIFA or anybody? No, not at all. This is the kind of thing that... This is where the country is on the rise of two different opinions. And where some people think that this is okay. Whether some people think it's not okay. I don't think it is okay. And every other out there are people saying that. We are a very, very nationalist club. If you want to comment that. And we play for our country. My club is open because I wanted to use players from my country. And somebody who says that I love Pakistan and I love Pakistan. It is not okay for me to have a play for the country. And that is my personal view. It's my right to have a play for the country. See, I don't really like personal point of view. Because I am very attached to the club. Yeah. I mean, you say it like you feel. Yeah, so it's not. I never had a play. So I'm not going to be political. I mean, sometimes political and say, okay, this is not... I shouldn't be controversial or I shouldn't say that. I should say the right things at this time. No, it's not what I want. And that's right. It's just that I'm not going to be able to just talk to myself because people think it's not right. See, I'm going to stress my opinions. Some people sometimes think the opinions of themselves. But I'm still allowed to have my opinions. Absolutely. So I have to give Ranjeet the credit he's due because one thing is true that he doesn't mince his words. What he has to say, heart and sleeve, passion, whatever he says, he says it. And it doesn't matter who he is against, who he is with, who he is with. Brother, before coming to this show today, I have fought with my parents. I said it in anger. That doesn't mean that I'm right. Heart and my sleeve and passion aren't with me, are they? So saying it and saying it's intent is a very different thing. Okay. Now what is this nationalist club? And you're saying I am tweeting from my handle and you're saying my club is not tweeting this. Yeah, I'm sorry. And first you have to give due credit to him that he doesn't ignore you when you call up for these kinds of conversations. He's out there telling you his stance. I am saying I don't agree with that stance one bit because at the end of the day, you're the owner of that club. And if you're projecting yourself as the owner of the club, how are you putting out political messages if you're getting fined for putting up something under your jersey? And honestly, the problem is not with him. He committed a mistake. But he's not taking the risk of making a mistake. So the problem is there, brother. This is the problem. So what Arjun is saying, I will agree to some extent. But see, we said that first, you remember the last chat we said, safety issue is one. Not going because of what has happened there is separate. Safety, we have issue when teams go to play, when Iraq war was there for AFC cup also. I remember he's been solvent and other teams went. And it was very bad situation there. Nobody dare to say we are not going to go there. Even genuinely concerned from players by whether we should talk to each other, brother, what are we going to do? Whether we should go or not, genuine concern. But nobody can say that we are not going to play. Now, nobody from the any club in India have guts to say that we are not going to play there. Even though advisory is there. That means travel advisory is there. Body, AFC means guts to say to AFC. So we are not going to go to represent a continental club championship or something like that. Firmly, ma'am, Mr. Bajaj to some extent, I agree. He felt like that. Players are not safe and all that. Fair decision. Ma'am, I agree there. AIFF is the Federation. They say but they are the parent body. They said they will decide it, they will take call on it. match commissioner according to Rihal Kashmir, they said that checking proper everything happened, match commissioner took match, line-up was done, handshakes were at the end of whatever it was, there was a system of walkover, 7-minute or something like that, I think. So I think that the chapter should be closed No hard feeling, no hard feeling for anyone. Ranjit said, I don't care, I care for my player's safety, fair enough, nobody is taking that from you, Jai's is concerned, then AIFF was right, match is going on, Rihal Kashmir was present there, then comes the rule, what should happen? And if I don't, as there has been passed these kind of things, Orjun will be remembering that Fransa and Air India, where similar kind of thing happened, why did Fransa refuse to play game due to some technical issue with the refereeing and all that, and then may have been said, let's play again. And AIFF, then Air India did it, what should we play? And they gave three points to Air India, so if somebody is telling me that no I feel like it should have been an example set for other clubs. Opportunity lost in that. Yeah, I think this is it, if match commissioner and everybody is there, if security concerns, it's for everybody. Sir, that's what I'm telling you, now it's done, Minerva is nowhere in the title race, Rihal Kashmir's title race was finished in Delhi, right? So at a time when this decision was given, it's not really affecting someone's title championships, but the effect is that Rihal Kashmir is a team that is going to stay in the I-League now. Now for God's sake, something like this happened next season. Team No Lim, I'm not going there. No, no. And if you say that we will take your three points, so what did you do last season? Sorry, sorry. So the precedent that's being said is terrible, but I also just want to say because, of course, Ishwar, I don't need to tell him, but for other people who are not so familiar with Kashmir, who are like Hartaal or Band or whatever, this happens a lot in Srinagar. From 30 years. Yeah, so if it was cleared that I-League matches will be happening in Srinagar, what decision did the Federation make? Like, someone must have come into someone's mind that something like this can happen, there is a possibility. When you do I-League scheduling, you don't think that something as unfortunate as what happened in Pulbama, and its direct feud after days, if there is a match, then the one who is going will think. I am also saying the same, if you are saying security concerns like this, it's okay, but then your parent body doesn't say, it's okay there, our match commissioners and everyone is going. You understand? Like, so I feel that it was probably feasible to go, but what Ranjit Bajaj and his club actually claimed or is actually sometimes I also was a little bit confused what what exact point is it really that this concern is dangerous there or is it like by jo jo yeh hajsa hoa unfortunate uske liye we are with the with their families and with them hum log nahi jaare. So these are two different things. On paper to security. And then it became a it also became a personal attack against Real Kashmir where where Real Kashmir was being asked to issue statements about a terrorist attack where it is not the prerogative of football club to be talking about in fact it goes against all of the rules about making political statements that all sports people athletes etc etc have to stand to then it became a personal attack against one or two players. The best solidary is that both teams come, there is a two minute silent prayer where both teams do ISL teams everywhere. So that is what sports is about that they would have said we stand with everyone together. Both teams, I don't think they deny it or something like that. So if they go there to play, then every time there is any tragedy of the world, there is a big one, now when the year went by, then the match of Jamshedpur was happening, they had two minute silent prayers for them like all across the world. So here also already a lot of ISL teams have their own, the point being that you can honour somebody or somebody's memory or somebody's contribution without trying to score political points for yourself out of it. I agree. That is essentially what we are. So let's take three angles, the end story. So as far as I am concerned, Minerva or Real Kashmir is not there. As far as I am concerned, the people who have decided that you play the game again, having said when we cleared and we gave you a checklist and everything was checked, yet you have been given a chance to earn those three points. So the point is how will Real Kashmir feel now? Forget about Real Kashmir, we can get to that. How will Real Kashmir feel? What impact will it have? We will talk about that later. But the final decision that was taken was taken in the AIFF's emergency committee. So the iLeague committee gave its report and by the way, we also have this and we will play that clip for you right now where Sunand Dhar is saying that according to all the committee reports on Feb 18th, the situation was conducive to playing football. So then why the U-turn then? Why the U-turn then? What have you got to be afraid of then? What is a guy like Sunand Dhar who is not on this emergency committee by the way. The emergency committee has the president and the vice presidents of the AIFF on it. President being Praful Patel and vice presidents whoever they are. So Sunand Dhar is not on this. When a guy who is the CEO, the head of this league is coming in the press and making categorical statements saying that everything was fine according to us. But what is the meaning of that? One week later you are blaming your own person for that. I don't understand that. I think he is saying that we gave the report but the committee has taken the decision. So he is clearly saying that the iLeague committee as a CEO, he was ready that time. So his report is here. But later the committee thought that the report was wrong. No, it is deliberately vaguely worded. Keeping the situation in mind. As you say in Kashmir, by looking at the situation. It happened that what Minerva did, I said that I don't like it but no one. It happened that you say anything in the end of the day. The one who is right or wrong is not seeing anything. According to that, I don't think it will be an unfortunate issue. Sir, it will be going forward to see your reaction. If anything happens, any team can say it. Exactly, that is my point. Next time we will call you to the studio. No, I will give you a situation. We are having second division matches right now. So let's see you might come to know that some of the teams may have refused to come. No, take a look at this match. If you say that this match will not be played in Srinagar, this match will be played in Delhi. Now Minerva has reached Punjab. Referee and Referee have come there. They are ready for handshake. But Real Kashmir said that we are not coming. Our Delhi is not being formed. Whatever reason we are not coming. Now you both will have three rounds and if you have two rounds we will show you the order that you have done here. And even as far as this particular match is concerned, which will be played again because also to remind viewers it will be a super cup. And the final standings of the league will be played on the basis of the super cup qualifiers. So all this has to be resolved before the 15th of March. But we will have this stalemate. And Minerva said that they have to play in Srinagar. So they will only say that they have to play in Srinagar. And then they will come there. They are already feeling that they are hard done by the last match. In Delhi versus East Bengal. And the feeling is that I spoke to a couple of people like they are saying that it was our home ground match so we know how to play on this pitch. For the first time the boys are playing in the narrow stadium and it is a very big stadium. So we got a good advantage to East Bengal. So it's unfortunate but that's how it is right now. So actually we are having all of this conversation and we have information from all the parties involved but we still don't know how it is going to resolve itself. I honestly feel that Real Kashmir will say that if you are not playing in Srinagar then I am not coming wherever you will play. And you take my uncle with you. Even then I am saying that I appreciate them if they were playing in East Bengal at that time. They could have refused. They could have refused. The other things like the situation for Kashmiri team to come out was not a good idea. I think that for any team if they were in such bad conditions then the whole league should have stopped. There shouldn't have been any football anywhere. I think no team should have this kind of attitude that we shouldn't go to play. According to the system we should follow the rule book. We are talking here. The team that the team has refused is getting rematch again. We are talking here. I know. I know. See at the end of the day there are three parties involved. Kashmir, Minerva, AFF. Minerva did whatever he did. He is part of a league but the person who is overseeing the league and the person who is supposed to make sure that the functioning of the league is smooth and proper and so that all parties are taken into consideration I feel that there has been a choke by doing this. You are sure given the three points. The person is saying that I am ready to give three points. I felt exactly they missed the plot by taking a decision. For example, the match won't affect anything now. The best thing would have been Minerva's respect was the best way by whatever Ranjit is claiming. I am national. I don't want to go there. I have done that. They would have taken it. They would have taken it. Good. It would have been better for them. So whatever he is saying he meant that and they shouldn't have any difference. The second part is that real Kashmir gets those three points. And AFF is one group. It means for everyone there is one law for everyone. Exactly. So you are not looking for a place for yourself. I don't think it is enough to take three points. I know what exactly it was. But unfortunately... There should be repercussions for that. But maybe what the AFF could have done is that we have given the three points in this special circumstances because things are the way they are. That we will do. That we... That's what I am saying. If they had taken a decision and their concerns were right they would have taken the decision. Mr. Ranjit what he was saying is like right. His concerns were about safety issues. But at that time we went to the match commissioner. We can't penalize them. But we will show cause them but it should not happen in future. So the bragging point was for everyone. Mr. Ranjit could have said we did what we were told. And we are proud to do that. Because like Ranjit himself is saying now everyone... The great thing about India is that everyone is allowed to have their own point of view. Fair enough you have your own point of view. Agreed. So we agree there. I think the common sense would have prevailed. Exactly. This is not a show. If Real Kashmir got three points. The last three shows in fact we didn't get three points. You people will be favourable. Because we all have to tease you. Three points. So the larger sort of impact of this these proceedings on particularly of course football in general but particularly football in Kashmir I want to talk about because on the 24th two clubs, two iLeague second division clubs Lone Star FC and RIFC were present in Srinagar when they reached the match venue TRC they were told that the security agencies did not have permission from above to allow that match to happen. Now going forward from that other teams who are also slated to play because the second division is also happening on a home and away basis as opposed to playing in a central venue. So other teams are also not going to travel to Kashmir. Next season maybe the AFF is hoping what does it mean? It won't be there. It won't be there. It won't be there. It won't be there. It will be the end of the iLeague next season. So that doesn't mean there will be a difference. Has Kashmir gone or not? How was it? No, it wasn't really a question. But what I am saying is next season and like Ishwak is saying it's been 30 years since this is happening in Kashmir. So what kind of guarantee will you have next year or a month or 6 months that it won't be closed or there won't be an encounter or in some part Kashmir is also a region. It's not like one village. It's a big region. Srinagar is like there is north-kashmir, south-kashmir there is like there is a lot. What guarantee do you have that one day or two days that we will make a window by looking at the iLeague match schedule and two days ago You can't. You can't take that into account. If it's a simple thing that if I am focusing on that match I won't be thinking ahead. There is a repercussion that if you have already done this with Minerva and you have awarded in favour of Minerva then you are just setting yourself up for next season for someone else and do the same thing. And they will turn around and say Bhai, how are we going to do this? Srinagar News is like ninth is a match between Goa FC and Lone Star FC. I have heard as for now match is standing but Goa FC may not come. I will request everyone or my feeling is let's keep sports away from politics. Sports bring people closer. They bridge those gaps despite which community which religion you are from. It heals. I think we should let sports be sports. This is my thing. Yeah, I couldn't have said it any better. I mean sports and politics don't mix but I just feel if you take a look at the three parties involved here that is AFF, Minerva and Kashmir the party where all the glare should be is AFF. Minerva and Kashmir honestly at the end of the day that organization is there to make sure that the right rules and the right format is followed and the smooth functioning of the league is followed in a fair and proper way and the one who wanted to do it you had the chance to set things straight and so that no one follows it in the future. You haven't done it now and I have a feeling that you might face this situation again in the future. That's all. I mean this space for politics is everywhere in every aspect of our lives and in sport there are sort of like whatever politics is happening at a national or global level plays itself out in that limited scenario anyway whether it's within a team structure you know the groups formation, selection all those politics are there in sport. So if you want to talk big then in that same framework in that same context you can also talk big political things but this blatant what do you call it shouting and shouting especially on social media the long term impact I think there is not much to think about it. Social media honestly speaking we think if your tweet got 1000 retweets put a number on it 3000 people a billion people it's an urban thing it's often on our phones we get used to it we keep looking at it and we feel that because of this one tweet it's getting so big that it's getting worse it's not getting worse Trust me on this even if 5000 people abuse me on social media there are 5000 people if you compare it to the scheme of things if the country is there are 5000 people people abuse you on social media but it's different you are an individual your sphere of responsibility is limited to yourself when you are a football club that sphere of responsibility is vastly greater and maybe today you only have 5000 people following but that doesn't mean that the impact of what you are saying or the weight of we have on our channel some senior journalists who get millions of views on their videos we get a few thousand that doesn't mean that doesn't mean that we can come but that doesn't mean that we can come here and say whatever the hell we want so the same should apply to everyone that applies to every walk of life and you agree we are not against no no no against the decisions what should be what rules should be we are saying that this basically in actual sense because basically what this emergency committee has done is we have taken all the information given to us by our own people our people have given us this information but by disregarding it according to the situation the only question I have the only question I have imagine Real Kashmir had defeated Izmengol then brother so sir wait a minute this decision is also after that match timing is also the subplanned of this decision I am telling you that will also happen when Real Kashmir was out of the title race in the beginning Real Kashmir's stand that match is scheduled they have maintained the same stand Minerva Punjab's stand we need security guarantee otherwise we won't play in Srinagar they are maintaining that's what they said they are maintaining the same stand even now when we talked to Ranjeet he is also saying I will play if I get the guarantee from the security agency that it is safe that's what he is saying we will come back to the same situation again so it looks like there is going to be an orate show but the two clubs have not changed their stand they haven't AFF on the other hand has said one thing and then completely the other thing let's hope that it matches we are not doing an orate show on this man people will not see sir I think the best way to end the show because all the things have happened watch this space for more because this conversation has definitely not come to an end