 And start then I'd like to now call the June 2nd, 2020 Longmont City Council session. It's a regular session to order Can we please start with a roll call? Of course mayor Bagley. I'm here Councilmembers Christiansen here. Thank you councilmember Douglas fairing here councilmember Martin Here councilmember Peck here councilmember Rodriguez here Councilmember waters here mayor you have a quorum All right, great. Joe, let's go ahead and say the pledge My favorite part of the online web meetings Council councilmember you dog will fairing. Do you want to start us off, please? Sure, I'll do it like with my my class right hand over your heart. All right. Good good ready begin America Mind my pauses Well done. Well done. All right quick reminder by the chair anyone wishing to speak during first call public invited to be heard item 7 Will need to watch the live stream of the meeting Instructions for how to call in to provide comment will be given during the meeting which I have now lost But anyway and displayed on the screen at the appropriate times during the meeting comments are limited three minutes per person and each Speaker will be asked to state their name and address for the record prior to proceeding with their comments There are no approval of minutes. Do we have any agenda revisions or submission of documents? All right, good sign city manager report. Let's move on to COVID-19 update emergency items for consideration Oh, sorry councilmember dog will fairing Trying to unmute myself. So Actually, I had sent it I had Maria sent an email and it was later this afternoon So you may not have had an opportunity to see it, but I did want to bring forward a statement to To receive approval and adoption In regard to what has been World nation events that have That have hit our our nation and our community as well So I have a statement of solidarity in response to the killing of George Floyd and the protests that followed So I would like to bring forward the statement for approval Can I read it? You could what we'd like to do is put it on the next agenda and then we'll go ahead and vote on it Well, I would like to read it before we vote on it. That's fine. We can do that Okay, so I will do that. So the recent killings of George Floyd Ahmad Aubrey and Brianna Taylor by police officers launching a nationwide movement of protests and sadly riots Have weighed heavily in our hearts and minds We condemn the brutal death of George Floyd and the killings of so many more black Americans because of racial discrimination By the very people sworn to protect us We reject the actions of these officers of these particular officers Who took it upon themselves to be the judge jury and executioners? We recognize the trauma communities of color historically experienced due to ongoing police police brutality In effect exacerbating continued fear distress of law enforcement. We are a nation of grief Breathing over the loss of such lives of lives such as George Floyd Ahmad Aubrey and Brianna Taylor in just these last few weeks as you your elected officials It is our responsibility to address Instances of injustice We must make a commitment to lead with compassion and the resiliency needed to build a more equitable community Long-on City Council is committed in prioritizing racial equity and dismantling Systematic systemic racism that divides and destroys communities. We support our community members efforts to participate in peaceful protesting We stand in solidarity with these protesters and encourage the community to remain focused on the purpose of these demonstrations Which is to advocate and fight for racial social and economical justice so So that's that's a statement. I'm open to revisions But um, I asked that we adopt this. All right, why don't you go ahead and make a motion? Do you want to make a motion? Yes Just say all right, so she's moved all second Councilmember Christensen Yes, I I second that I think that's a wonderful statement. I read it earlier and I think Well, it certainly reflects my view All right, Harold, can we put this on the agenda item for just the next meeting rather than regular meeting? That okay. Yes, we'll get that done. It'll be a week from Really weeks from today. All right, just as long as we get it on quick councilmember waters Thanks, Mayor Begley. I didn't know that we were gonna get an email for a proposed council statement from Any of our council colleagues and I and I don't want to have dueling statements I think councilmember Douglas fairing statement is is very eloquent But I have but I do have my own statement I'm gonna make I'll wait to the end of the meeting and I just want to say it now I don't I don't mean it to be dueling messages. I just feel an obligation to not be a Silent ally at this point in time I'll wait to the end of the meeting and I'm and I've no doubt I'll get behind the Collective statement, but but I feel an obligation To to be clear with this committee for I stand and I'll choose to do that at the end of the meeting just so everybody All right, thank you, let's go ahead and vote all in favor of Placing council member redargo fairings statement on to the next council meeting to be voted upon and accepted by council say I I Opposed say nay, right the motion carries unanimously. All right anybody else and that by the way council member Edogell fairing. Thank you very much Well stated and I look forward to voting and supporting that All right, Harold COVID-19 update unmute Harold Harold unmute Yep Wrong button The city managers comments are gonna have three things tonight First council voted last week on changes Regarding the housing authority and I just wanted to let you know where we were on that So the housing authority on Thursday did vote for me to be the executive board member. We've started working on that Just to let you know we placed chick Tracy Francesco in the office in the housing authority office to work with Kathy and Karen you may have Remember Tracy from the work that she's done on the mobile home program that we've had in the work that she did In replacing mobile homes not only through federal funds, but working actually with Eric who's on tonight in terms of Undocumented individuals and making sure they had the same access to housing that others did who qualified for that so we have a lot of I've worked directly with Tracy on that issue Karen's leading the Residential and organizational culture piece. She's doing that in conjunction with Michelle wait Carmen and Ellie Bertha Kathy's taking the lead on financial development in the programs there Just so you know Friday. I was there and met with as many of the office staff as I could and then had to move back to the Civic Center to do our afternoon calls with the entire organization. I'm gonna be spending more time there Michelle Carmen and Karen have they were at Aspen Meadows this afternoon they've also been meeting with many of the Managers of the facilities and having conversations as we continue digging into the situation And we're gonna be touching base later this later this week so I can get briefed and we could move into the following steps So I just wanted to let you know We've been actively engaged In different areas at the housing authority since you all voted on on that last week second thing Then I want to talk about is a Short COVID-19 update today because we also have Mike Butler here I know there's been some questions that have come to council via emails And I wanted Mike to touch on those and so Mike and I Michael do most of the talking and I may jump in for some commentary But at least where we are today you all may have know that may you all may know that the governor has extended The safer at home orders For until the end of June. I think they call it now safer at home in the wide open spaces Colorado or something like that Specifically this had a lot to do with outdoor recreation and recreational activities They are asking for feedback on guidance regarding swimming pools and team sports And so I have staff working on that so we can send that into the state Once those orders are issued We're gonna really need to look at the impacts to our facilities to determine what the next steps will look like Specifically we've talked to you all about our budget issues. So we're gonna be evaluating really The numbers and what we're allowed to bring into facilities and what that looks like from a financial component because We also have to be very mindful that we don't Increase the budget deficit that we have once we have some of the once we understand those orders and what that means So we're gonna be digging into it as we get more information As you all know the Restaurant expansion process we talked about what we were able to do internally That seems to be going fairly well. I think we have nine applicants that have come into the system We have around four or five that are through the process which is in the process is going pretty quickly in terms of that action And it's really great to see you can design these processes and the test is how fast people go through them I know Sandy was talking to me about some jurisdictions. They've been in there longer and haven't turned anything out Kudos to Don Michelle judge Legal everybody that's in there in terms of pulling them in the sit in the process and pushing them out So that seems to be going pretty well We're still trying to understand How all these orders potentially impact the 4th of July fireworks, but we have Got more clarity and we know we're going to be canceling All other events through July Which does include rhythm on the river and the 4th of July at Longmont Symphony concert just based on the amount of people that are coming into one location in the grouping so I'm letting you all know that we're going to be getting that out to the community via press releases and Then we're also doing the same with other concerts that we have And now one of what I wanted to do is introduce Eric Ozimba from the community foundation He has a presentation of for the council on the strongmont fund And when we talk about everything that's going on and I think No matter what it is one of the things that always amazes me is how well Longmont can come together during times like this And how well we work together and what Eric's going to talk to you about is really a testament in terms of Bringing folks from multiple organizations from throughout the community together to really work to benefit Our business community and the grant processes that we were talking about Eric. Are you ready to go? Hi, I'm Harold. Thanks so much and Thank you to mayor and council for allowing me to present I Yep, thank you very much Don or Susan for putting that up. I appreciate it very much I just wanted to give a special like acknowledgement to Susan and Don for actually helping get these meetings set up and helping me look a Little bit better as far as getting the presentation up there So regarding the strongmont fund This is just a brief update that I want to provide you and of course you can ask any questions You want at any time because that's our world the Longmont community foundation. So if we go to the next slide I don't think I can go to the next slide, but one moment. My mouse is being bad Thank you very much So just a brief recap about the strongmont fund the city's economic partners formed the cobin 19 business response funds With the goals of capital communication and education and really where the Longmont community fits in Fits in as the capital piece if you will we are the partner to hold the grant funds Any private donations and facilitate the strongmont fund granting process? The funds are comprised of city funds Dda funds and donations from the broader community And I'm proud to say that currently we have about 275 thousand dollars in grant funds available that will Cover quite a bit of I shouldn't say cover quite a bit of need because there's a ton of need out there But I'm really thrilled with the amount that we've seen already in the generosity in our community so far We go to the next slide Is that not the next slide? No, I'm sorry. I just talked about this forgive me. That should be slide three Well, let's go to the next one. Sorry, is the screen not changing for you. No, it's not changing Yeah, I'm on pause for some reason one more time. I Can keep talking to so the eligibility we're getting back to the slide three there, but Eligibility for the grant process was that you had to complete a business assessment There you go Maybe had had to be a non-home-based business with a physical address within the city of Longmont Locally owned and operated 25 or fewer full-time equipment FTE employees in an operation since January 1st, 2020 or before Next slide, please You need to possess an active city of Longmont sales and use tax license and be in good standing with city permits licenses fees as of March 1st 2020 Experience closure dramatic reduction and operation or loss of revenue due due to public orders related to the COVID-19 public health crisis Grant reporting is required of all entities that receive funding and in fact, I'll talk about two cycles of reporting that we will be Throwing out to the community later on this year Next slide, please So just a brief application Summary we had 179 applications submitted $1.6 million in requests is just phenomenal the amount of money that people have requested and the average request is about 9135 you might say that we were allowing people to apply for $10,000 But there are some people or businesses in the community that actually did not request the full amounts of tents That's why the average request is $9,000 next slide Apologize for the vibrant colors here, but essentially you get a sense of who applied for the strong month fund This is kind of our before survey if you will this this information was collected during the Application process itself and our hope is is that we would be able to match this with the post survey information So once we get those reports we can kind of link up and see you know, whether estimated customers are post Kind of safer at home if you will number of full-time employees and gross revenue, etc If you can move on forward Susan Thank you And then we did also ask the applicants to identify if their minority owned veteran owned women owned or locally owned and operated Obviously, they have to be locally owned and operated if they're to be applicable But of course we had some that did apply for that, but they did not fall into that locally owned and operated For that green slice of segment. We also asked within the mighty or minority owned if you can go to the next slide season What identifying minority they identify with and you'll see here a high chart of 47% or 48% Hispanic Latina Latinx Asian American African American a nice diversity as far as the applicants that we receive from the strong month fund application Next slide, please And just briefly the committee of eight members made up of the community We were able to corral and hurt them and get them to do a really quick review The deadline for the applications was May 20th, and we were able to review applications within a couple of days They each got a segment of the 179. They didn't review all 179 themselves. We actually parse them into cohorts and They made recommendations for the first round of 23 recommendations or roughly $230,000 Six were non-compliant with the city regulations that eligibility requirement that I told you about earlier But they do have until Wednesday at five to fix their issues We anticipate the Longmont Community Foundation anticipates the checks for the first round We'll go out later this week. The second round will follow shortly and two progress reports that I alluded to Earlier due August 31st and December 31st, and we hope to get some Some data to share with you as well as the rest of the community and that is it for my brief report Thank you very much, Eric Do you have any other than just a hearty? Thank you for acting so quickly to help our local businesses very impressive 23 is a big number Given given the time and the resources available. So thank you. You did great. Thanks All right, if there's nothing else Make it make sure that we get on record that councilmember pet give you two thumbs up So we're good All right, and mayor Yep, and I just wanted to also say I know anytime we've Kept one of these situations. Eric's always there to jump right beside us and work through it So I wanted to give a personal thank you to Eric and and the work he does He's always there to help us fight through the sticky situation. So thanks, Eric. I really appreciate all I really appreciate it too Thank you for the comment All right. Do we have chief butler here is is it his turn now? Yep, it's chief butler's turn now. All right, and let me just preface I think I speak on behalf of everybody that this is this is of utmost concern right now given councilmember redogal fairings comments and proposed motion the emails and the concerns and Right now. I know that there's a group of citizens on main street. I'm actively Protesting etc. So I'm we're all anxious to hear what you have to say public safety chief butler All right. Thank you mayor. Thank you city council. I'm mike butler. I am the public safety chief You know what happened in minneapolis last week You know, I haven't been able to come up with good words To try to figure out how to describe it how it makes me feel Um, I can tell you that people within our Police department are just kind of shaking and hanging in their heads those who those who are um Hired to protect and serve the community um Or something like this to happen Is it's beyond it's some level comprehension. We all saw the video. It's incredibly hard to watch Um I'm not sure what else to say about it. It's it's just moved all of us and And none of us I can tell you in my conversations within the police department None of us can figure out how that how how could somebody do that? And you know, you got to understand too folks that Um, this is my profession the profession. I've been in for 40 plus years We work with a lot of people within a police department that have been doing uh The service of providing police services to our community for for decades And it's kind of it's a black mark for us. Um And and um, it's again and I've said for years that The actions of one police officer can upset the equilibrium of an entire community. Well Seems like yeah, these actions upset the equilibrium of an entire country And so here we are And I know there's a way out of it. I know that we're going to be able to work through it But I also wanted to come tonight to talk a little bit about what's going on in Longmont And this is I don't know what kind of time I have here I could I could talk for hours In terms of what we have going In terms of what we've done around hiring practices How we train How we supervise the culture how we what kind of culture we've developed The expectations our officers have in terms of what They do and don't do The architecture of the organization Um is a piece of this as well in terms of of ensuring that our officers Feel good about their position within the organization So um, and then the other part of this of course are our certain policies use of force policies And what we do with with that Um And so I'm just going to start and I'm just going to spend a little time on each of those areas and then I welcome questions. I welcome comments Um any concerns you might have Some of you have written along with our police officers So I I'll just I'll just start with recruitment and hiring practices um So we we we reformulated our what we call it our profile that we look for in a police officer A while back and we're always refining it. It's always something we're Kind of trying to up the ante in terms of the kind of people we're looking for But longmont has the reputation perhaps more than any other police department in the state of colorado of The difficulty it is for anybody to become a police officer in longmont because of our screening and and the serve in the screening criteria that we use And so and the other thing I want to say about that is You know, we have a lot of police officers who want to Move into longmont from other cities from not only around the state from around the country And I will tell you that about one out of seven out of eight Of those what we call lateral entries people are currently police officers Don't fit our profile Because it is so different Then then in many other places We really place a tremendous amount of emphasis on people Who want to be a police officer and their capacity to connect? And their capacity to develop relationships This job is all about that We don't hire lone cowboys lone cowgirls. We do not hire people um Who just want to kind of be by themselves? And work by themselves. We want to we want to hire and who don't want to connect with the community We we hire people who do want to connect who can develop relationships Are very predisposed to doing that Our motto is policing and partnership with the people And so those people we hire Um Are we want them to be able to work in partnership with the people? and the kind of The way they do their work the way a police officer does their work is that they are assigned specific areas Of the community and that and that assignment lasts for a while and their responsibility is to develop relationships with Uh, whatever exists in our community whether it's businesses whether it's neighborhoods whether it's churches schools Whatever that might look like and so they are that is their That is their role and that's somewhat of their assignment And so we're very very particular about who we bring on And by the way, we have citizens who participate in our hiring processes We even have high school students that sit on our hiring panels To determine whether or not the person that they see as a high school person Um, if they want that person as a police officer and so the other part of this that um, some of you might know about is that Just about everything that we do within the police department. There's community people from the community involved Uh, whether it's strategic planning whether it's hiring promotions transfers to other assignments All kinds of different kinds of work that they're doing They've been involved in our strategic planning process Our strategic one of our strategic planning processes included over a thousand people the vast vast majority of them were from our community and And it took about 18 months to do that process And so we wanted who we were How we were are and what we do and how and what we do and how we do it Uh to be a reflection of the voice of people in this community And so we spent a considerable amount of time Uh making sure that people's voices within this community count in terms of Who we are and what we do and how we do it And they are constantly working Right next to us on an ongoing basis. I know I've I've talked to council before about about that level of transparency They're always walking the hallways. They're always working with this in some form or fashion And so that's a big big big piece for us the other thing that in terms of their involvement And I think you're all aware is that we have a citizen review panel um any allegation of misconduct that comes through That is investigated by our professional standards unit is reviewed by Uh five community members and those community members are selected by the city manager I have nothing to do with that And and so those five community members Make recommendations regarding the fairness the objectivity Thoroughness completeness of an investigation Then they also make recommendations in terms of should the case Be sustained Is there is there enough evidence to show that the officer is responsible for that misconduct? Or should it be not sustained or unfounded or exonerated? And so our citizens Have quite a bit of input into who we are again what we do But our hiring practices are critically important The other thing I want to say about that is that We do a tremendous amount of research and background investigation Determine if any of our applicants have ever used violence an ounce of violence to try to solve a problem And if they have they're rejected. They're immediately rejected the other thing that I want to say is that um The average age of the person we hire is somewhere between 30 and 32 years of age As a police officer And so they're not people just right out of college. They have life experience. They've had other jobs We've hired school teachers We've hired ministers. We've hired social workers And so those are the kinds of folks that we tend to kind of gravitate towards The application process in long month And so but if there is any kind of violence in our background We reject them And so that is very very clear for us So Maybe I'll just stop there real quickly and ask if there's any if there any questions around what I've said so far The only comment First of all chief the the question had you not said what you said was going to be one What are we going to do to assure that what changes will we make to make sure that the george floyd situation does not happen here and two Um If if the answer is nothing, what have we done to make sure it doesn't happen? So thank you very much But I did get so we we got some emails today Asking where can they find the information on the citizens review panel? Is that online somewhere? Well, I I don't know if I'm online, but if if you want to refer those folks to me I can make sure they get a copy of Of that information You can refer him to dawn and michelle because I know when when we did the recruiting the last time Um, they put that notice out And could you could you email it to me because uh rather than I just If you give it we'll have dawn and michelle send it out to you We'll email it to the entire council great dr. Waters You know, I would just signal like we would all like that and We all want it. We all want it. Yeah council member your local fairing I have this it's the summary of your um the diversion program summary And one of the things and I did respond to a constituent who asked what are we doing? I know in our own personal experience The core team had actually helped with an incident with my son who's um diagnosed autism And uh, it was It was it was the game changer For him and I had the opportunity to share that I do not throw Comments out lightly in regards to justice and racial equity Unless I truly believe in the work that that they're doing and I truly believe in the work and the um that you're doing with grip with our students Who are at risk for gang with our students who are at risk with mental health and disabilities and how the police interact with them We've had even though they've been very um strained You know instances with my son um, we've had very positive interactions with law enforcement and helping Talk him off the ledge and help and help us get the resources we need So I truly thank you and I would really like if you could Del explain more about those. Sure. I will those are Programs, you know, they go ahead. Paulie has uh Go ahead. Paulie. Sorry okay, um I know chief. Thank you for coming tonight chief butler and talking. It's very very timely. Of course, we're all in a state of rage and disgust and anger So it's very good. I I have lived many different places and I've experienced A few different police officers. I mean police departments and I know that we have a good police department in contrast to Some that I've experienced and I just wanted to I know you could talk about this forever But I just wanted to point out that long mon is really unique in that we have uh, the police department has started the angel initiative which, um Helps get people off of drugs. It started the restorative justice which works with the court system to Make sure the people who? teenagers who make a mistake don't get stuck in the Justice system and in just going to jail and ruining their lives. They get a chance to Rethink it and make things right. Uh, I know that you have um People who come around with you who when you realize there's a Mental health issue you have somebody there who comes with you. That's incredibly helpful you have a homeless team who works with people who are homeless who try to get them to the right resources and uh, you really I know you've worked on opioids since I mentioned that to you years ago and you were already on it and um, you've done work with Not hiring people as you say who already have problems and making the part of the police force and um, you really I think this is a really excellent example of community policing that really you will There's a commitment to Serve and protect and I want to thank you for that All right, so um You get on a couple of things there that I think are important The programs are kind of results of some of our philosophy and policy you know, it's For a while I've always I have I have felt that our criminal justice system is way too prominent in our society and our communities in terms of trying to In terms of its responsibility for solving social and health issues and and so You know, I For those of you who have spoken with me in the past at length, you know, I'm not necessarily a fan of Trying to pass ordinances to fix health or social issues Whether it's at the city level the state level national level, whatever that might look like I don't think we can pass laws and stiffen penalties and And think it's going to be an insurance policy that's going to protect us from the human condition It just doesn't it's never happened And and it won't happen in the future And so what we have to get good at is having great conversations around these social issues You can get out of the one-size-fits-all Quick fix kind of way of seeing here's how we fix this particular social issue Because we can fill up the jails uh Or we can we can arrest people and we know we're not going to be able to arrest ourselves out of these issues. So We did our best and we're still doing this to try to minimize um The enforcement role or in the invoking of the criminal justice system within our community by putting programs in place like restorative justice like the angel initiative like lead the addiction uh, the heart deal the The the model that we work with for folks struggling with addiction as well and like the core program um The co-responder program and of course there's a program called rewind for kids That operates as well out of out of the city and so We're not done yet But we put a lot of programs in place that we believe are more effective than than the enforcement aspect of things And so and so there's a lot a lot more I could say about that but if you have questions But I just you brought all those up holly and that's fine Uh, but that's why we're doing those things is because we do not believe the criminal justice system is the answer And so when you look at this country and you look at what's going on with police departments around the country And I'm familiar with a lot of police departments. I've been asked to do a lot of speaking around the country over the last few years around this The vast majority of police departments are still stuck in the enforcement mode They're kind of designed and geared for enforcement and so and so when an officer goes into a neighborhood And and and and I will say this that oftentimes when when we encounter these social or health issues Which by the way are is a significant part of any police department's business Um, unfortunately the the communities the economically disadvantaged the socially marginalized or disenfranchised communities Don't have as many options And so they don't have options for treatment for addiction. They don't have options for treatment for mental health And so when they call the police the police come And their role is enforcement And they and a lot of police departments around the country if you want to talk about police reform How to figure out how to get out of that how to how to move forward in terms of just their role being only in enforcement And and so because these are the very communities. These are the very neighborhoods and communities That really need police in a different kind of way Not just to enforce and so so when we walk when we go into a neighborhood or a family or a certain part of the community Many people know already that we're not necessarily there to just enforce the law That we're there to figure out how we can bring different kinds of solutions to the table And so that's there that's out there in our community already not everybody knows about that And sometimes long month by people who don't know get lumped in to the whole Police phenomena. So I know that johne has a question. Go ahead johne You have to hit the mute button There you go. Thank you. Uh, thank you mike for showing up tonight. This is really informative, but I I do have a question as to how what the disciplinary action is for police officers in longmont for example the accused officer who Actually strangled uh, floyd It it seems like he had a lot of disciplinary actions along the way And at some point the question is why is he still on the police force? um, what is longmont's protocol? for disciplinary action um and Would that policemen have been on the street? if he were Without without without hesitation absolutely not and we do have several checks and balance systems in place For for that and so if if there is an officer that Has a propensity for committing allegations of misconduct. They don't last long. They just don't and and by the way, I know that some things have come out about unions being a detractor for uh police administrators to be able to discipline We don't have that problem in longmont and and I won't go through all the circumstances But over the last couple of years herald knows about these cases. Um We've been able to terminate five police officers. Um, not for anywhere thing anywhere near what happened in minneapolis, of course um And and and essentially with um the blessing of our our internal order police organization So our relationship is good with them and you will find I can't tell you how many times i've talked to a police chief um in other parts of the country and they will say something like I fired the same guy three times um And and because of the either civil service commission or because of the appeal process They're able to come back and get their jobs back That's never happened here in longmont and so it's kind of a it's kind of a It's a real It's a real powerful and a real dynamic in a lot of police departments around the country in terms of Kind of the union protection they have And i'm not saying that's what happened in minneapolis because I don't know for sure But I do know that minneapolis has a pretty strong police union and the officer that was involved in this at 17 or 18 prior allegations of misconduct um That's unheard of um, and I know that that's something that Minneapolis is going to have to try to figure out how to answer In terms of what happened But in terms of our yeah, go ahead. I wanted to kind of jump in and help with this too. So um, obviously we have processes that we have to go through and in many cases i'm the final appeal uh, but there have been cases where I get involved earlier I'm just based on what mike's challenged with and dealing with in these processes and And so yeah to mike's point what he didn't say is yeah, this individual wouldn't have lasted that long I know there's been cases that we've dealt with where it's been swift When we've seen issues But the thing I wanted to add everything that mike is saying is I've I've had the Advantage of being part of three different organizations three different police departments multiple chiefs And the thing that I learned early on And I had the ability to cut my teeth on some bad events um Departments don't get this way overnight This occurs over long periods of time And it's really embedded within the culture of the department and how they approach and deal with people And there are things that mike and I talk about on a regular basis One of those things is use of force And the reason why mike knows this the reason why i'm always asking him about those questions Is because what i've learned is that is a good Early warning system based on the experience that i've had in terms of are you seeing shifts and are you seeing departments approach things in different ways And I will tell you What I see based on our numbers versus what i've seen in other places and what my colleagues have seen It's drastically different in terms of use of force um, but we pay particular attention to that and it's embedded in Things that you may think or that people may think are simple But it's when do you have a high speed chase? You know, we have rules about when and how we do that and it's As simple as some of those directives that really start setting the base of the culture in terms of how you deal with this and those are the things That I try to watch out for in our conversations And it's different here. I've said it. I've said many times The way we approach things is it's different um, do we always Hit a home run and knock it out of the park now we we we obviously know From a couple years ago we make mistakes, but I think the difference is We own those mistakes and we try to make improvements as we're moving forward But I wanted to give some perspectives to mike's answers in the sense that We do have ongoing conversations about this So that we can see if things are changing So we we monitor just an adding building on to that we monitor every single one of our officers um Use of force if someone uses force within our department There's multiple layers of review including my office um and every officer knows That that is going to be reviewed and now you throw in every one of our officers now Where's a body worn camera? It's so easy to go back to that camera to see what happened And does the report that the officer right? Kind of line up with what we see in the video While we didn't necessarily need those the body worn camera does serve as another check and balance And for other purposes as well in terms of use of force I know marsha has a question yes Okay, um, I'm just gonna ask it. Um Chief butler, I think you have absolutely been talking about the wrong the right things here I've gotten a lot of ants of letters that I think have been um Well, I think they've been um Written off of a checklist of bad things that police departments do because a lot of them In my experience don't have anything to do with this police department um But a demand I keep hearing is we need to demilitarize our police department And my response to that is what? You know, I've seen militarized police departments Um, but could you speak to that just a little about the role of of heavy gear and And stuff we inherited from the army and all that stuff in this police department? Yeah, of course so You know sometimes you see these off the our officers wear these vests with all their equipment um on their upper torso versus their belt And one of the things that people don't know is that they do that to to save their backs That it's actually easier on their body to carry 20 to 25 pounds of You know with their handcuffs their their firearms Whatever it's going to be um, but they think it's and they're bulletproof vest by the way Um that it's easier to carry on their upper torso. And so it kind of looks bigger But it's actually something that we use for ergonomic in terms of people being able to Save their backs. Uh, and so just so you know that that when you see that that's that's the case um, and so for police officers who are In uniform on a regular day-in day-out basis carrying that on their hips in their back can be um For many of them It can be debilitating and so we went to that form of carrying our equipment We don't have we have very little Military equipment and log mon. We do have a mobile command center that we use That that's a big big rv looking vehicle But it's not a military vehicle and and so I understand that sense of demilitarization the look that it might have at one point years ago our Our officers were all wearing kind of fatigue Your army fatigues are not wearing those uniforms anymore. We've changed a lot of that up You know and so while sometimes the look of a police officer in a uniform can make them look like someone who's in the military What we don't act like the military And what we do in the community is much different than what of course the military would do So We've done what we think we need to do to sort of demilitarize And in fact, we never got that kind of military Orientation to a great degree anyway, and so that's not who we are That's not what we do or how we do it And so but occasionally I have to I have to talk about swat And I know that that's something that people see as As an aggressive kind of police tactic. Well Our team what it's about is it's a it's a safety measure We have a team that works well together And what I can't discount what none of us can discount are the circumstances that police encounter With people who are carrying weapons and sometimes very powerful weapons And and and so and and are very aggressive with us In that regard and so Our goal when we do activate our our SWAT team Is to ensure the safety of everybody the safety of our officers the safety of the person That might be an aggressive towards us the safety of any hostage the safety of people in the community And and I will tell you in the years. I've been here Our our our special weapons and tactical team have never had to shoot anybody And so even though they have these kinds of They have this the equipment tools they have They've never used any kind of lethal force And I think that's a testament to to the great teamwork And to the great skills that they have and so This is this is a tough area and especially in today's environment To talk about because sometimes people want your police departments to be You know, they want them to be they want them to look the other way sometimes and and sometimes we can't And well, we can't ever look the other way But so we have to activate certain kinds of Tools and equipment in order to get the job done as safely as possible. So that's the best answer I have for you marshal on that one I think that's a good answer. Thank you Tim Go ahead Tim Thanks, Mayor Magley. My thanks. I had my thanks to you for Spending your time with us this evening and more importantly the thanks to you for a literally a lifetime of service in this field and to this community and I hope the whole world is listening to this conversation actually And and what policing should look like in communities across the country. So um, it would be helpful For me and maybe others to have I have two questions The first one is helpful for me and others to have some idea of the variety and the number of complaints That you or herald and the review board deal with during the course of the year, right? Is that a big number small number? What does that look like first question second question? Since you're about to turn the page and move into the next chapter of your life It'd be helpful to know for council members. I think at least for me What what's the what are you going to leave in the letter to your successor? What are the areas for the greatest? Potential for growth or improvement given all the good work that's going on it ain't perfect And if I know you I there's not a doubt in my mind You you're going to leave some recommendations in the areas where That we need to focus and where we have the greatest potential to improve. I'd be curious what those are Yeah, first question tim numbers of cases um I'm I'm happy to say that we don't get a lot of citizen complaints We just don't and by the way, we set up a process years ago It's called somos and somos means we are in in spanish and um Latino leaders and staff from police set this up So that people could actually go to people like if they wanted to file a complaint against anyone in the police They could go to someone like karmine ramirez Or they could go to l comathe Or they could go to the r center or they could go to st. John's church So they don't it's it can be rather Intimidating to come to the police department and say I want to file a complaint against one of your officers so We made it easy for people if they want to file a complaint to do that. I wanted to say that because The number of complaints we get are few we average maybe six to seven allegations of misconduct a year And I I want to say maybe two or three of those are typically car accidents We've had one excessive or two excessive force complaints um in the last three years And both of those were unfounded by the citizens committee And so I think that's a testament to the culture. It's a testament to the people that we have on our force Uh, it's a testament to the training Um And it's but mainly it's a testament to our staff. It's a testament to our officers and the people and the kind of people they are so I would encourage anyone in the community if anyone's watching us to write along with us and and to um And to get a firsthand view It's not like tv And it may not be what you see on the news And I and I know you're going to be pleasantly surprised And so there's a lot of ways of being able to interact with us Engage with us. We welcome that on a regular basis And anyone's welcome for the next month to call me and I will figure out how to Get you involved. So that's the answer your first question to him um so Here's I have this I have expressed this to some folks, you know here Our police profession in the eyes of many seem seems broken and I'm not going to say It's not unbroken. It there is a brokenness about it and and and these latest incidents have kind of highlighted that brokenness in in terms of what's going on and there's a part of me That says, you know what? I don't want to leave this because I think I can help with that But there's also a part of me the bigger part of me says Good luck to the next person so to speak So that's kind of where that's where I'm landing But you know the the person that is going to be overseeing this Um, actually that person he's an internal person. I don't know how much we haven't put anything out there publicly About that heroes. You want to talk about that fine? So based on covet, we have an interim person right now Just because of travel and everything else and so that interim person is Rob spin low And then we'll move through the processes once we actually can have conversations Um and get feedback So here's my here's my main. It would be my main advice or my thought When you have people Who are have this incredible anomalous authority? To take people's freedom away and we live in a society where individual rights are paramount And then they give police departments this authority To take people's freedom away or justifiably justifiably use force That does something to the psyche of a human being And and sometimes that sense of I can do this and I have this badge and I have this authority No matter how What who you are and what you've what your background is Sometimes that that that can begin that can be a powerful force inside of people and so my My best advice to someone is to figure out how to counter that With ensuring that each one of those folks Have have our can engage And and relate and integrate with the good things that are going on in our community so that they see What's good about our community? In fact, I'm writing a letter right now that I'm just I'm letting our in my goodbye letter at some level and I'm saying one of the things I'm saying is is Do your best to become ambassadors for what is good in our community And and so that's the part that I think all police needs to work on We're pretty good at the enforcement thing. We can we can do that well But what we're not really good at is Not we're we're faceless oftentimes police departments are faceless entities. We live in this fortress like We're we're not we don't personalize ourselves And that would be the advice that and you have to constantly work on that Because the psyche of of a person doing this job can be it can be It can be harmed The psyche can be harmed by the nature of the work and so You have to set it up in a way so that our police officers are Have access and and can see the good what's going on in our community And that's that's a kind of a philosophical approach, but that can look like a thousand different things too And so and to constantly be monitoring them And the other thing of course, I think the big deal in policing Are is found in the people that become police officers your recruitment hiring has to be as tight And as good as it can be in terms of ensuring that you have the right people doing doing that job Uh, and so I'll leave I'll leave it at that Tim. There's probably actually I'm Rob Spenlo and I're gonna have a two-hour conversation tomorrow And I'm gonna I'm gonna let him know a lot of things as well and part of that's just what I said so And to Mike's point I asked the same question And I've got several pages of things Um because he did do that for me one of the things I wanted to point out That's right And this is always a testament and again something I learned in other communities is how does Um a police chief respond to when you want to see certain things Um last community I was in they had an elected police chief So that was an interesting situation Um, I've shown up at multiple slot incidents Mike's called said this is going on. I go I want to go look at it. He's never attempted to stop me um I've routinely called and and said hey, I'm free this afternoon. Can I do it right around? They pick somebody who's available. They don't place me with someone I just go with someone um The openness is also a very clear indication to me When they don't try to match you with certain individuals and so you get a certain story Um, you know, that's huge in terms of how you approach this Um In a lot of cases it's not what you do when you're being watched It's what you do when you're not being watched And and those guys know and Mike knows As I'm driving around I see stuff. I will stop and talk to him In the example I will give you of of what really happens One day one Sunday morning. I was going to get breakfast um and One of my favorite places It's just down the street from where I live in the um Where the old kmart used to be and there was an individual in the parking lot that was creating havoc and um police officer showed up watched it picked up my breakfast Drove around came back watched it another officer showed up They were there 45 minutes Just talking to the individual They didn't have a clue that I was sitting there watching it They didn't know anyone else was watching it And for me, I think I called Mike and said I just wanted to let you know what I just saw Again, it's it's not what you do when you know the city managers with you or he's there It's what you do when I'm in the parking lot. You don't know that I'm Um, and that was for me one of those moments where you just go They get it and and it was neat to see them just having the conversation And at the end of the day everyone walked away I don't think they got within two feet of the individual Um, and that was good to see because that's the culture that he's trying to build Or that he's been working to build and we we've got to continue Again, we both said we don't do it right all the time But I will tell you Mike owns it Can I just kind of reinforce what I what you said Harold at the beginning of that That you've received a couple of pages of thoughts from Mike Mike's going to spend time with his successor or at least the interim tomorrow I think part of what the reason for my question that that that I'm not curious about the direct answer But the community I think also needs to know that Mike that Mike Butler recognizes. It's not perfect There's growth to do there's work Stovie has to be done as far as this department's come There's always going to be opportunities for improvement. And that's what it sounds like Mike suggested to you that's that's what's important to me. Yep All right, councilmember peck No, I just want to say that um, the fact that we don't have very many Resident complaints is a testament to like Butler in the way you manage The organization and the the standard that you set So I don't think you're replaceable, but we can try can we clone you? Thank you very much for all of your effort Uh, and chief I want to echo those thoughts. Thank you very much for your your thoughtful comments tonight and for what you're doing and uh It's it there's so many Scenarios and in situations right now. We live in a very different world and we appreciate your effort to keep it safe We really do You're welcome. Thank you. All right. All right. Thank you everybody. All right later chief Um, I just wanted to say something on top of that. I wanted to thank mike for giving me more time You know his his retirement date was what a month ago made And um with everything going on he hung on and I think you know, that's a piece of this But what I wanted to say to you all is just generally I think what we expect of the entire organization This is as much for the community as it is for the organization Um, and you know when I saw this, um, I was horrified Um physically sick Um, it was criminal The other officers were complicit and those are pretty direct words um But for me it was different because I don't talk about what's happened in my life before But it brought back brought back memories of when I've had to deal with issues Um, but the hardest part was having to explain it to my kids um And it was the hardest conversation I've ever had to have and I have a 16 year old and a 17 year old And you know how many hard conversations you have with them And then trying to talk to them about what is different here Than what they're seeing on the tv And and getting them to understand that because what they see Is what's all over the place And really having to talk to them about what goes on here and my two are fortunate because They have interacted with many folks. They bold with mike at the employee get together. And so they have a different perspective Organizations and departments don't get here overnight They don't get into that position And there were things that you've heard about minneapolis a simple fact a few years ago 50% of the time their body worn cameras returned off and they said it's gotten better. It's at 85% now I mean that's a an interesting fact for me Mike spent a lot of time with organizational culture. We've spent a lot of time with organizational culture hundreds of hours Where mike and i've jointly taught classes i've taught classes with every director i have But what i wanted to let the council know In those conversations we talk about what we expect in terms of how we deal with each other What we expect when individuals deal with the community And now we've added Equity into the conversation. That's the new ad that we're bringing forward It's what you all to know from my perspective zero tolerance for this and I know mike's the same way And to to council member pex comment We deal with these issues quickly And I will tell you and in my career I've had a situation where someone put a swastika on the board or uh A minority employee And I dealt with it that day I've had members of my organization had to deal with um But I don't even know how to describe it um Racist groups that were part of the organization they dealt with it that day um I have zero tolerance for it and what we've said to our organization Treat people like you want to be treated And and we will deal with it if you don't That's my commitment to you all That's my commitment to the organization But that's also Our collective commitment to the community and if people have issues they can call mike anytime they can call me What I can tell yous will deal with it All right, that's a great exclamation point to conclude the discussion. Thanks herald. Thanks chief Let's move on let's move on to first call public invited to be heard Don I don't uh, how many help me get in the queue Mayor we'll need to put that slide up and then take a break for four minutes All right. Let's let's go. Let's uh be back in four, please. All right. See you Thanks doc everybody can hear me. Let's get back to our computers and move on to first call public invited to be heard Don how many just how many how many how many folks are in the queue? Mayor looks like we have two in the queue and I just want to make sure Uh, susan is ready. She had a computer issue just a second ago Susie are you ready? Oh susan susan. Yeah, sorry. Thank you We still want susie also both Hey don uh, my other computer is coming back up, but I am on another computer And I do see that we have two callers. Can you hear me? Okay Yes, I can Okay, so I'll go ahead and admit them Let's go ahead the timer is on and going Let me not going but ready to go Very good mayor. So for the first caller your phone number ends in six three seven I'm going to unmute you if you could please state your name and your address for the record. Can you hear? Hey, yeah, I also Last time I listed my address. I had somebody show up at my house unexpected because they heard me on city council You don't need to stay it. That's not what I mean. We asked for it, but don't don't worry about it Okay, thank you. Um So good evening city council. I'm calling again this evening about short-term rentals Last week I called in about the house behind us and since then we have had to call the police about the noise ordinance And air bnb guests being up and partying past midnight in our residential neighborhood Also, since I last called a house on my street one house over has begun operating as an air bnb This house is a stone throw away From the house behind me and I'm so upset that my neighborhood is being infiltrated by these air bnb Um, my neighbors own another home in longmont that they live in full time. So they are legally Able to rent out the house on our street year round Please reconsider your air bnb rules and regulations They are ruining our neighborhood and affecting the housing crisis And upsetting peaceful neighborhood communities What can you do to support homeowners in longmont? We need real change now. Thank you Mayor, could we get that caller to state her name? I did not catch her name. Could you state your name, please ma'am? Yeah, sorry Yes, my name is pearl spin harnie Thank you pearl. Thank you Thank you All right, let's go on to the second One moment our next caller Your phone number ends in eight two zero You're unmuted Hello, can you hear me? Yes, we can Okay, great Hi again, my name is catherine baylog and I live at 19 1920s bruce av Last week I called in about the house behind me 1883 or apaho Which is the short term rental air bnb that sits in my backyard I informed you last week of what we had been dealing with And just a couple of hours after I called last week into you all I had to call the police because the people that were renting the air bnb were outside partying in the hot tub loud smoking pot at 10 30 p.m I also texted the owner of the house at that at that time Um to ask him to please ask his guests to not be out there the noise ordinance starts at 10 p.m And to inform future guests to please stop using the hot hot tub and be out after 10 p.m As well and I got no response from him I again had to call the police at midnight on the same night because the loud partying in the hot tub and smoking pot Did not stop even after the police were called and they came the first time they had to come a second time Again city city council I would like for you all to revisit the air bnb short term rental laws in the city of longmont My neighbors and I do not think it's fair that we have to put up with a hotel with different guests every single week Partying on vacation in our backyards What can you do to help us with this situation? Do we have to have different partiers on vacation every week in our backyards? Please help us By revisiting the air bnb short term rental laws in the city Thank you Thank you. All right. Thank you. Is there anyone else in the queue? No mayor. There is not All right, then let's move on to the consent agenda and introduction and reading by title first reading of ordinances Could you please read those don? You bet mayor item 8a is a point and reappoint affordable housing technical technical review group members for 2020 And 8b is authorized mayor to sign a letter to the regional transportation district Regarding the retention of fast tracks internal savings account dollars to unfinished fast tracks corridors All right. Do we have motion? All right councilmember peck Actually, I would like to pull the the letter. Was that b? That's fine I'll go ahead and move item 8a a point and reappoint affordable housing technical review group. Do I have a second? Second I can do it. All right. It's been moved by me and seconded by councilmember peck all in favor of 8a say I I I Opposed say nay All right passes by majority vote councilmember peck Um, yes, uh, first of all, thank you, uh, mayor bagley and phil greenwald for drafting that letter to uh, to uh, paul paul baggard um I want to explain that The fast tracks internal savings account has been used as a slush fund for any time that rpv gets out of trouble Over the years and it is the consensus of some elected officials who've been doing this far longer than I have that had that FISA account not been touched We would have and been invested We would have enough money to finish all the unfinished corridors and we wouldn't have to constantly be having this fight So that is the reason for this But I would like to make a suggestion and perhaps an amendment on the letter The content is great. Thank you so much. But the reason that I asked for the mayor to Endorse this letter or to come up with a letter is because this thursday is rtd board is meeting to uh, actually start discussing the budget and the FISA is going to be on that meeting Right away. So even though paul bellard is the interim Interim director He is not really the one who is going to be making the decision as to what to do with that FISA account It will be the board of directors their consensus and their motion as to whether to use it for operating income or Or to leave it as is untouched. So, um I would like to move that Item eight was it eight or nine? I can't see it on my screen. It's eight b eight b With the amendment that we address it also to all the board of directors all the rtd board of directors And paul bellard as just respectfully because he is the director I'll second that. Thank you. All right. I'll pose say I I Actually any debate or discussion? All right Yeah, you said opposed. Oh, no, I'll all in favor say I All right. I All right, that's unanimously Um, all right. Sorry about that the uh, it's been a long day And uh, we're on webex and I anyway. All right. Uh, let's go ahead and move on to Uh We had one more we had a report. I threw a sustainability evaluation system. There we are. Let's move on to that Good evening mayor. Can you hear me? Uh members of council, my name is don berger with planning development services And I have a short presentation for you tonight with an update on the sbs sustainability system And I wanted to go over that really quick And while that's being put up, I also wanted to let you know that in attendance tonight We have lisa knob lock the sustainability program manager As well as david bell the director of parks and natural resources in case there's any additional questions related to the to the sbs So next slide As noted in your council communication staff has been Working on the council on with council on a number of these items that have all culminated in an sbs evaluation system This system will be applied to any variants to a setback from the riparian areas streams and creeks and wetlands And to date we have completed the following tasks We've updated the land development code to require council review or variances to the setbacks We've updated the development code to require that an sbs evaluation be completed We have created an sbs evaluation process for our development review committee Which includes staff from natural resources and from sustainability And we have also finalized the sbs checklist So with the completion of the sbs checklist The sbs has been fully implemented And is ready for use on any variance requests that we receive moving forward Next slide So what remains to be completed? Based on council's past direction We have a third set of code revisions that we need to process and bring forward They will generally do the following things First is that they will add some water bodies That to the to the riparian setback requirements for 150 foot setback from those The areas that we are looking at would include portions of what's called the slew, which is spring gulch number one spring gulch number two dry creek number one in lichens gulch The second amendment that we're seeking is to with the code revisions is to implement the recommendations in appendix a of the wildlife management plan update As you may recall appendix a of the wildlife management plan recommended that the development code be updated And have updates completed to sections 15.05020 and 030 And those are related to the protection of rivers and streams And habitat and species protection Next slide So finally, what are our next steps? Currently staff is finalizing the revisions to the land development code Specifically those that were referenced on the previous slide related to adding those water bodies and making the revisions to the land development code that were Recommended in appendix a that's currently undergoing a staff and legal final review that we hope to have completed here relatively soon With that in mind our goal for council direction as we understand it Is that you would then look at any proposed revisions to the development code At a study session and we are currently trying to make a july meeting for that discussion That's where city council would be updated on the changes that we're proposing to make And be able to give us any additional direction that you may need In order for us to achieve your goals If the direction that we get from council does not require many changes or revisions to the document We are currently shooting for an august first reading then of the ordinance for those amendments And mayor that concludes my presentation and if the council has any questions or Things that they'd like to ask us or direction. We would take that this time I don't have any questions other than just saying thank you. Uh, dr. Waters Thanks, mayor bagley. Uh, thanks don Um, don't uh, you didn't in the materials we got from don a few hours before the meeting Uh, we basically we got uh, we received from don This the slide presentation the deck you just did Uh, but the last slide in that deck you didn't you didn't present in your presentation Uh, it it lays out sES 1.0 2.0 3.0 That's slide Councilman waters. Is that the slide that we presented to the council? I believe back in november that has Yeah The it's small on my sheet. I'm sorry. I have three columns Yeah, yeah Is that still or is this this this still represent? Kind of the phasing or staging of the work and if it does Uh I'm trying to I'm trying to track Uh, it looks to me like we would be in july or august at the first part of 3.0 Maybe not but that's where we're talking about code updates so the The let me get the larger vision so I can read to that polly here's what I was really after done I I'm not trying to ping you on on that thing just You know necessarily on anything but just to understand where we are In terms of what was laid out then in the kind of bigger picture in the flow of the work So I could make middle notes or drop it onto my calendar What I might expect to see regarding the sES at key times july obviously Assuming well regardless what the format is Uh, that we'll get an update and a chance to act on ordinance in august um Which would which would partially update that sounds like a land code Yes, that's correct. Um, and then and then what's the next phase? In the next phase over the course of the rest of this year and the next year um, I just You know, we've been talking about this for a while. I just would like to make certain we get this done Well, I'm still on the council and um, and I'm certain that's true for some of the members of the council as well So being able to think about how this applies to a calendar would be real help so Hey don Councilmember, I want to share the screen just because he brought it up for the public councilmember waters Is is this the Is this the one you're referring to yes, yes So on this is the graphic Okay, so I would say that everything in sES 1.0 Is completed The sES 2.0 will Finalize the recommendations in the wildlife management plan So that would come with this last set of land development code revisions That we would be bringing to you. Hopefully in in ordinance in august assuming the july study session goes well And as council expressed at one of the meetings and I I do not remember which one that the Rec the motion was made But council chose to push off The 3.0 the one for public private partnerships and for the riparian Adjacent discussion expanding its impacts or on to other development to a future time and That as I as I read the minutes and looked at that meeting It looked like we would need you to make a motion for us to start working on those next Portions that would cover 3.0 So on just so it's somewhere in 2.0 What you're bringing us in july and august shows it up in Is it in the last is it in the additional standards because we've already approved the standards? so I don't know carol to put that back up again easily hold on Hold on Because we went through the additional waterways The reserve area in discussion Step two is I think what you're referring to don when we looked at the red green and red yellow and green areas and how the supplies and when it applies and And and I think that was in in number two in 2.0 I'm going and that's what we decided to wait on And maybe it's maybe this is just old enough that it doesn't represent But what the kind of current flow is that's what I was just trying to track That Yeah, so so the only thing that is still to be done are is step four under 2.0 The additional standards so the additional standards are again are the items that were recommended in appendix a of the wildlife management plan update Specific code revisions to those two sections that I talked about Okay, that's the last step and we've been working on those since november And with everything that's happened. This is just where we're at. Yeah, okay But we're finalizing those to get those up to you here in july at a study session So we can wrap that up and then and then the right time talk about the broader implications the other legs of the stool the other How to think about the yellow and red areas in the waterways all the rest of it Yes, all right. Thanks. That's I'm good. All right Thank you, don. We appreciate that and we look forward to the next step All right. Thank you, man. Thank you council All right, let's move on to final call public invited to be heard Let's take two minutes and put that up on the screen and see if anybody calls in We won't take a break because if we just sit here patiently for two minutes I suspect no one will call in and we'll be done. Whereas if we take a break it'll take 10 minutes and we'll Be here longer All right, is there anybody in the queue Don susan No mayor not yet. It just started showing up on the screen. It's been about a minute. All right. We'll give it another 60 seconds or so All right, is there anybody in the queue? No mayor not at this time. All right. Let's go ahead and move on to your mayor and council comments I'm not seeing all council, but let's start with councilor christianson. She doesn't wait. We haven't heard from you much tonight Uh councilman waters wanted to speak though earlier so Councilmember waters, why don't you go ahead? Okay, I appreciate the difference Uh Before I I do have a statement. I'm gonna read before I do I've had honestly I've had on my kind of list of items that I think we ought to it to review Here's our ordinance on air bmbs. We continue to hear about it. We get correspondence about it I know it's an issue You know one more thing that we would be adding to an already Uh tough agenda. I just I think we owe it to our residents to review Uh that ordinance and and and not just you know what we're doing with it But how we're monitoring and and enforcing the the ordinance number one number two I know we delayed the discussions about rvs Uh because of safe lots and what was going to happen with this but in my notes on august 6th Or i'm sorry. Yeah august 6th 2019 almost a year ago 10 months ago We voted Gave direction to staff to bring back the rv ordinance for review and potential revision Lots has happened since I understand the reasons for the delays But um, I don't know where we stand with safe lots. We heard that the presentation in february or march It's my impression that rvs were not going to be part of any safe lot proposal And so that still has hangs out there after having given direction We haven't done anything with it and I think we owe it again To to residents whether you're in an rv or or not in a home I think we owe it to folks to to to take another look at what we ought to be doing with that ordinance as well So i'm not i'm not making motions on either of those if somebody wants to pick it up and make a motion We already gave direction on the On the on the rv. It would be giving direction a second time So, um, I'm gonna this I'm gonna make a statement and if you'll just indulge me And i'm just like so many other people i've been in a loss for words To express my reactions and reflections on what has been transpiring today across the country Because the feelings I I have are hard to express Because it's felt like this is a time when people like me should do more listening than talking or speaking I'm meaning public statements About what we've been witnessing and and how repulsive it is This said I just don't feel I can like I I can let this public meeting Come to closure Without without making a statement. It just seems now is not the time for silent allies so with that said Words like horrified appalled outraged heartbroken sad or shocked Feel less than adequate to express my reactions to the murder of george floyd So rather than trying to express those feelings. I just want to be on the record with where I stand On a number of issues or a number of points number one I stand with all who seek justice for george floyd george floyd mike brown riana taylor Ahmed arbery and so many others whose lives were ended by racial hatred and the people who perpetuated On this country I stand with all who are committed to disrupting systems And dismantling structures that continue the stain of racism and social injustice in this country I stand with those committed to creating a more just society in a nation Through hard work collective action Compassionate action and perseverance I stand with those seeking a post pandemic future It's more equitable distributed balanced sustainable generous healthy and fair I stand with long months public safety team All of our first responders and the city's policies and approaches to policing the value prevention Service help safety and the respect of our residents I also stand against abuse of power The misuse of force by police The dehumanizing of people and disregarding of the rights of anyone Especially citizens or non-citizens of color in this country To their life liberty equity justice decency respect health safety and security By those we entrust with protecting these rights in this country I stand against those who have attempted to hijack Pervert and corrupt and peaceful and principled mission to change the system and hold the people in it to count I condemn the lawless senseless destructive violence Some people have perpetrated on americans and their communities I understand my words tonight will change nothing But how I spend my days and my nights as a council member might make a difference Well, I can't do anything about what happens in minneapolis Louisville, fergus in washington dc or any other city in this country What I can do and what i'm going to do tonight is reiterate my commitment to working with others on this council With members of the city staff and all long month community members to make this city more just equitable fair inclusive transparent healthy sustainable and accountable And if every council in every city in the united states does the same It's my best hope that we never find ourselves again where we are tonight in this country Thanks All right, thanks doc councilmember christensen and councilmember martin sorry um Thank you councilman waters. That was a good statement and I also agree that we need to um Uh re-examine the um short term rentals And see how they're going. We need an update and we need to reconsider whether some of the things that we Allowed are still a good idea I do think that I I think uh councilman hodoggo firing for her wonderful uh statement um I think it's incumbent upon everyone to Speak up about this everywhere they can and um, I think most of us know that um policemen have a difficult job They see and deal with things that would Uh make most of us That would cripple most of us But they do it anyway We know it's hard But you still have to be a good man You still are and a good woman um as um chief chief of uh sheriff swanson said from Genesee california who marched with the with the uh things with the protesters And uh threw down his baton. He said when this happens It makes all the hard work that we have done absolutely useless We have spent so much time Trying to get trying to build trust with the community And you can't have a police system or anything any kind of civilization without trust And so then when you spread the seeds of just trust like this Not just distrust, but They murdered this man they murdered him And chief butler has spent many many years building trust in this community Remember two latino men in the 70s were killed on main street were shot to death by um a police officer and instead of exploding the latino community came together with the help of um Navarro mr. Navarro and uh martin marino and dan benavides and a number of other leaders in the community to build something to fight back and Give people a way to complain But all that gets undermined when you have People who so Shockingly abuse their power that they consider it their Privilege to have life and death control over other people We can't condone this we can't allow this to happen the first time I ever saw a hatred I was a little girl and I saw a little girl Maybe a few older years older than me walking up the steps to go to school And she was black. She was very nicely dressed much better than I ever dressed But there were all these adults screaming at her and screaming hatred. It was Unbelievable to me and my parents Explained that to me, but she was protected by police officers The police police officers in a lot of these towns now Are not protecting them and our president doesn't want them to protect them. He wants them to attack the protesters This is not going to make things better when you have chief people people like sheriffs once and from genesey And the denver police officer and many other police sheriffs walk with and talk with protesters That's the beginning of changing things and making things better When you have an attitude that people must be dominated and must be put down and must That's exactly the problem. So I applaud all the people all the police officers and all the peaceful protesters who are working hard to change things We must change things in this country, or we cannot go forward customer martin Thank you, mayor bagley. I'll be brief because it's been my night to have My thunder stolen by other council members, but first to take a load off your conscience Councilmember waters I have been in communication with Joni and erin And in fact, we are revisiting labor this summer the ordinances on short-term rentals and ad use Because of the new insights that we Have been gathering over over time. And so we we are getting our chance very soon now To do that and I want the public to know that that it's that watch for it. I don't have an exact date yet, but we are we are Rather our planners are Excuse me ready to come back to that Um the same with safe lots. I heard from uh, joseph zanovic of hope that Um that the first safe lot is is set to open it Will not have rv facilities, but we will gain some experience with that Everybody's terrified of coughs. I just want to say there's nobody else around here So The last thing is that uh, uh Just to add a little bit Nepali's story because it's an incredibly moving story and a story of possibility I knew Before going into the weekend That longmont has a different kind of police force From most cities and I wanted to do some research On just exactly how it got that way. I mean I've The one of the first conversation the first conversation I had With mike butler was when I was running for Running for office. Uh, somebody shot somebody in my house. I don't know. There was a loud noise. I hope you couldn't hear it I think it was a cat Anyway, um How how longmont Got to be the kind of city with the kind of police force that it has and um, I learned the story of the very unjust shooting of two young latino men and it was actually 1980 so Um, appropriately 40 years ago this august Uh, that will have happened And I asked mike butler the first conversation I had how you hire Police force and train a police force that doesn't act like that And I was very happy that he told us But I wanted to give a shout out and pauli's already done it to uh, el comite Because they came together with incredible speed and understanding and wisdom To know that they were protecting the whole community by giving themselves a voice and Averting the violent reaction That could have happened because of that event and um, I was just astounded that that that could be done Could be done by a bunch of ordinary people who got together because the community the latino community, which was only About 8 000 people at the time Thought they were level headed um, so they got this group of people together and um, and that was the beginning of el comite and the beginning of Of long month as a sane and inclusive Community, so I was just so proud and happy to learn that story. Thanks Uh, let's go with uh mayor pro tem rodriguez Thank you, mayor bagley. Uh, appreciate all things that have been said so far by my colleagues here on council I just want to say one thing as far as a lot of what i've seen in my network of folks Who've been involved in protests all around the country in the deep south and the midwest help in the uh, the pacific west that uh For people like us, it's easy to be able to make statements. We're elected officials We have a little bit more of a a platform that we can speak from But I think it's really important that With some of these folks we make sure that they know that it's their voice that needs to be heard It's the people's voice that really needs to be heard right now Not so much our voices that need to be heard It's more that we need to sit here and acknowledge that We are listening and we are receptive to what they're all saying and that I stand behind them And I will listen And I plan to hopefully Along with uh, my fellow colleagues here make this substantive change that people want to see as we go forward Thank you Councilmember dog affair And so really I want to add to just from my own experience. I've spent the last 30 years studying and presenting cultural proficiency implicit bias systematic Racism institutional racism and looking at how to break barriers and a lot of the work that I do is working with individuals in Changing that mindset and just shift from and I think this goes back to when I heard chief butler talk about feeling You know guilty and just like this I sensed a sense of guilt And it's really moving away from that From that sense of guilt and resentment to um and reacting that way to more of a reflection and using that opportunity for growth and I see that he you he utilizes that philosophy of the growth reflection and growth in improving Um, it's always disturbed me when I've heard people say I don't have biases. I took an implicit bias training Like well, I've taken implicit bias for the last 30 years and I've I train But I still have biases and I still continue my education and grow and change and the person I was 10 years ago is very different from the person I am today and what I'll be 10 years from now Will look a lot different as well and just and just knowing knowing that and really wanting to move our From shifting that mindset from a tolerance towards diversity to really looking at a and being committed to a transformation to equity So that was kind of in reaction to there I do have some advice for people who are wanting to to protest and get involved, you know over the years I've done a lot of community organizing and working with organizations black lives matter movement And you know, there there are steps. It's keeping with the same message of who you're with who you're rallying with and stay with that cause Make sure you have permission to be there in some places You need permits to be to rally in those spaces So make sure you're you're adhering to those those norms and and regulations in in being out there and and also to Keep your keep focused on the message keep a unifying message and make sure that you're not Getting riled up by instigators, you know, there's a lot of people out there who are just looking to make trouble And causing mischief and causing trouble. We see it with the riots and a lot of the people who started the protest were not The individuals who are engaging in the criminal activity So if you're out there and you see this in criminal activity, do not engage with them Call the police, you know report those instances because it deters from the message that we're trying to to bring forward and this was something so I marched with the tucana movement in the late 80s and Early 90s in southern california in trocano park, you know near the coronado bay bridge And I even back then it was, you know, don't get involved with the they're going to be instigators There's going to be people who are going to call your names and try to get you riled up to create problems don't engage and Yeah, it's just Because we after all these years we're still I think when when we look back in history You know or 100 years from now when people look back in history They're going to view this time From the civil rights movement through here in a span that I think will last probably more than 100 years As the civil rights movement it's going to it's going to expand for a long period of time We're in it for the long haul And you know my message is raise your children well raise them to see justice in in our um and compassion and empathy with our Neighbors and friends, so That was all I had to say All right, I guess I just very short and briefly I saw the video of george floyd I was disgusted and appalled and uh the one thing that I keep I keep thinking to myself is um as a society What do you do to change the hearts of evil men people who hate and uh and uh Martin Luther king, uh, I mean The vote equality anti-discrimination he knew what he wanted to achieve legally And um, I think a lot of the frustration we have now is what do you do to really Change the hearts of evil men And so um, I think the best thing right now Let me the one thing I know we can do is condemn it and be quite vocal So I join all of you in condemning that. Um, it's just terrible as we look at the world we're in right now And uh, I still believe that there are more good hearts than evil hearts And so I prove that I'm right. I just pray that I'm right So that said I don't see any other comments uh city manager. I'm sorry councilor peck Thank you. I wasn't going to say anything because I agree with all of you But uh in in remembering what that video was that the murder was horrible But what I really was Frightened by was the look on the police officer's face when he had his knee on the throat of floyd Um, there was no empathy There was no sympathy. There was no recognition in his face At all, but this was a human being no consciousness And that is the part that scares me about what is going on in our society So, um, I think that talking talking talking about this and educating is what we constantly to do And um, you know to erin's point or Mayor pro tem's point Is that uh, yes, we do have a platform. I agree But people need to hear what The leaders of the city think Do we accept this do we not or whatever which Which is not the message that we are getting from the national level And I think for me that is part of the biggest problem Is that we we have more power on the local level To actually talk to people rather than just Giving statements. So thank all of you. I'm very proud of the statements. We've made and I think that we will go out And hopefully bring uh some sense consciousness awareness To this horrible problem we've got in our country Thanks, john. All right herald. Do you have anything to say? unmute herald Two updates councilmember martin gave one of them. Johnny is working on that to bring the the That item back On the short-term rentals Also, I know karen and the group met Our self and welcoming places group met and particular focus was our v's and that's being Prepared to bring back to you all of just so you know, we are seeing more issues and more significant issues Um, and and so they wanted to bring uh get that together. So that'll probably be hitting Um, I'm gonna say maybe late june july Karen's also in her group is also working on the lha stuff. So we're trying to balance those two things, but It is on our radar and um, they're supposed I've got to get brief from the last swaps Eugene No comments, man Awesome, uh, do we have a consensus motion to adjourn? Anyone opposed to adjourning? Whoop All right, I'm in I'm gonna go ahead and assume that's the consensus vote unless I hear objection All right, we're we're adjourned. Thank you everybody. See you soon