 All right, so here we are in the second progress and learning video. This time it's with Tia Ma and I'm excited to share her progress with you all. And first of all, Tia, thank you for being here and I'll let you introduce yourself. Yeah, it's an honor to be here, George. So I'm Tia Ma. I live in Gainesville, Florida. I teach Qigong. I teach a trauma informed sort of Qigong, focusing on neuroscience and understanding the nervous systems and helping people who made me a little intimidated with joining a martial art because there's a lot of lineage and grandmasters. I call myself a Qigong artist because I really want this to be accessible and fun. In fact, I say let's play Qigong because I'm trying to try to get the fun in it instead of the overwhelming which I'm hearing from a lot of people they're intimidated. Yeah, I love it. I love it and you have led our group, our business group in a Qigong exercise before and it was wonderful and I don't know if it's uploaded publicly but anyway, you have plenty of Qigong videos on on your YouTube and elsewhere. Let's talk about what you've been learning in your business in a way that I think will help those who are listening as well. I mean, one place is lots of places we can start we can either start talking about what you've been learning in terms of content making or we can talk my light just died. Yeah, yeah, no worries. Yay. Alright, the lighting is back so yeah we can we can either start with talking about how you've been transforming your thoughts regarding content or regarding your productivity anywhere you'd like to start. I'm going to start at the beginning, because I spent a year last year coach shopping. So, I've been a massage therapist 34 years and so this is a big transition for me. I've done Qigong for 27 years but I've never really gone online. I've been in my teeny little room doing massage one on one loving it, but now I'm ready to go larger. So I knew I needed help. And wow are there a lot of coaches out there. I spent a year taking all the free classes they're like so I know for this I know for that. And I did and I was blown away, learned a lot. But they were asking 10 grand 20 grand 50 grand and I'm like who are you people. I was clueless to how I would ever get there. And, and also had a pretty strong sense. I was in the middle of the ocean and I didn't know what I was doing. So it was daunting. But when I finally found a dear friend of mine she recommended you in just November, and I took the Facebook ads class because I was launching a Qigong course. And I saw one video of you and my whole nervous system relaxed. I felt like, Oh, you're not a scheister, you're not trying to sell me a car. And I had the sense, you had a lot of information on business, but you were spiritually dedicated. And that is just such a key for me because my whole life is spiritually dedicated. And I don't like separating out business from spirituality or my money from spirituality. And so you really came across as integrated. And I definitely noticed how my body responded. So that was fun. And then your price tag was a lot more doable. Yes. I appreciate it. Yeah, you know, it's so interesting that in my in my field, there are so many people who think that they can't be credible, unless they are charging, you know, the $10,000 price tag or whatever. There's partly the whole, you know, credibility, esteem thing, but also it's like, well, that's the most profitable way to go. Why wouldn't you charge 10,000? Why would you charge 1000 make a charge 10,000 and still have some people sign up. But it's like, it's like, if you if you pay that those giant gobs of money. It's not like that person can make you do 10 times the amount of work. It's like, you still need the, I mean, well, I think what we both prefer is like you still need the gentle stepping in. You know, it's like, we all have our process, and you can't rush that process, because the learning doesn't get embodied as much so I'm grateful that, you know, your, we get to have a year together where, you know, you get to kind of like, you know, play with business to not just play Chigong but play with business to and then find your way there. So how are you having a different relationship now to your business or how is that I mean, of course, getting from offline mostly to now online is, I mean you've done online stuff for a while, but now you're kind of focusing more on that link part because of the pandemic but but yeah so so how's that how's that shifting your relationship now. It's been amazing so like I said I felt lost in the ocean. And then I joined Master Hearts, and then I felt like I had a map, just how lost I was. And it relaxed me because I'm like, so I took the business planning class, and that was just so eye opening, I felt like you really handed me a whole map. So I understood, and mainly I'm level one. I have a couple things in level to a couple things in level three because I am doing classes, but it helped me understand just where my gaps are, and why I've been feeling scattered. And so I love that feeling to have the map and to know to have an actual checklist of what where I'm lacking and what I've done all right. And so I did have a sense of like hey I am doing some good things. So that was nice to. Yeah. So I'm taking the content class the framework class I did the business planning class, and I did all of the Facebook ads class. Yeah, yeah, totally. And yeah that's continuing of course as you practice more of it you'll you'll have to get back in I'm sure and and then to know that but but so let's talk about let's thank you and let's talk about content. I mean, when I first saw you I already saw. Well, this this girl has been a she's got some good content. I mean she's got the, I mean you are, you are, I feel like a natural when it comes to content creation not everybody is. I feel like I wasn't a natural I had to really start from ground zero and build up the confidence but you, you came to it I mean maybe we could start to talk about video right like, you're very comfortable on video or you seem to be. Well, what's what's that. I mean, and this is this predates you meeting me. So it's like how did you become comfortable on video is one is one question I'm asking. So, you know I teach trauma informed for a reason because I have a lot of trauma. So I've done a lot of therapy, and I've done a lot of communication courses. I'm part of my spiritual practice that I remain authentic. And when I'm authentic there's nowhere to fall. You know there's no like, oh my gosh I have to remember this because I'm trying to portray something. And if I just strip that away and be my authentic self. And so I do feel like it's a big part of my gift to the world is to continue my healing process and let people watch. So I do that with video, and I'm an artist. So I like, I like the backgrounds I like the lights I like playing with that and I love video editing. So once I got into video editing it started being like video is just another color on my palate. So I'm having fun with all that. Absolutely I think people should, and I'm going to put a link, or two or three in the notes of the video for people to check out, you know different places where you check out your videos, and video editing is something that I notice that you do and that's like you do it in such a fun way. What software do you use video editing, real simple I movie, I movie well you know when you say simple, it's not necessarily simple because I mean just opening up I movie. I have, I have a max I movie comes with all max. I open up I movie, it's not obvious what to do. So it's really great that you actually took the time to learn how did you learn, how did you learn I movie just by playing around or watching the way I do everything I just dive in without reading the instructions. And I'm like, what is this do all that didn't work well let me try 15 things until I figured out how it worked. So I'm an intuitive learner like that. I love it. I love it. I mean, I wish more of us were willing to do that and it means that speaks to your, your courage I mean your playfulness with things and so that's really great. So, when it comes to sharing your message now one of the things that people, you know you come from the massage background for examples very hands on. It's like what have to be in the room literally with the client for them to experience change. Now you are moving to where you're transmitting information, of course your presence, you know there's transmission there. So how do you tell us, give us any kind of encouragement or insight for everybody watching this who is also moving from the in person to working online. So that's my first question for you have a second question which is, which is more about, you know, how do you communicate transformation without being in the room is home but let's start there how do you how do you how are you transition from offline to online. So my coach he told me I was really smart. He told me once he's like you people you are very smart and somehow that just landed so deep because as an intuitive artist empathic person is challenging necessarily to believe what I have to offer will help anybody, right. But I'm getting that more and more. And another thing you said is that no matter what you share, you still have a touch of shame after you share it. And I'm like, Oh, cool. I'll post something, whether it's an article or a meme I just made or a video and I'll think it's dynamite and push send. And I'm like, I think it sucks. And so when you shared that I'm like okay it's just part of the process. So I just try and acknowledge the shame and keep breathing stand up do some chigong move through it. But another thing that you taught me in the Facebook ads class is that you're not bugging people. They're either going to look at your stuff or they're going to be bored and scroll on they're not like oh my God you posted another thing. I have to look at it. And that was a serious voice in my head. So I was posting like once every three months, because I didn't want to be annoying. And so when you told me that I'm like okay I've been working on shame. I'm going to scooch that over. And in that very first video that I took with you. I went ahead and for the first time ever I asked my personal audience. Hey do you guys want to like my business page, and I have 300 people like it, but I had never asked people because I felt like well if they like it they'll sign up. And then said you want to sign up and they're like yep. So that was fun. Yeah. And then I love your concept of nourishing and net carrying. So I started just doing fun chigong means. And I did little videos like a chigong minute. And I wasn't selling anything. And they loved it. It was definitely the the furthest reaching content that I had was just like a chigong minute, because there's there's no overwhelm. It was getting people acquainted with chigong. And it kept their attention. So, one of the, thank you for sharing these these insights, one of the things that people sometimes say regarding embodiment work body work of some kind where your, your, your, your clients need to be doing the movements and things like that is how do I communicate. I mean like what I do is work, like ideally I work one on one with somebody. If I can't work one on one with somebody in person in the room, then I prefer to work, you know, one to many but have them in the room when I can, you know, kind of like adjust them or whatever it is to now. You know you're creating content. If you're on a video you can't see the other person on the other side of the screen. So how do you maintain. Do you want to say a passion for it or connect connectedness to your audience when you can't see them on the other side of the screen. I mean just share from your own personal way of doing that. Yeah. So you address that also in the Facebook class and you said, get the mean people out of your head, because I really for years when I'm on a microphone or thinking about doing video. I have the meanest meanest people in the front row and there's like 10,000 critics that's what's been my audience. So I'm just I've been, I guess in my head I was preparing for all the hate. Let me just be strong in front of the hate, and you're like just imagine your favorite one client or your favorite friend in front of you and talk to them and I'm like, Oh, that's different. So it really shifted gears for me like yeah, why don't I imagine someone who likes what I say and they smile when I talk. And so that's helped me kind of just practice feeling accepted, which is good practice for in general. Yes, yes, have a loving voice in my head instead of the critique. Totally. That's great. So you teach Qigong you also do other work to which which we can touch on as well. Maybe we could touch a little bit of on what you imagine your business model to be I know it's still kind of evolving, but what what are you seeing as your business model nowadays like what are you moving into. Like, how will you be helping people I mean, it used to be massage or used to be, you know, in person. Now it's online. So, like, for example, I mean you offer courses, that's one thing. But tell us more what you're, yeah. So I think my vision is a school for resilience. Healing from trauma. And Qigong is a tool, writing is a tool, creative art is a tool. Education on the nervous systems education on love language on the enneagram. Like I have a lot of tools I love to share. So I'm thinking of, I don't know if I can call it a school or like holistic training for trauma recovery something along those lines. So a larger umbrella that fits all the information I have jammed into my head and body. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no this is great and that way. You get to bring the uniqueness because, well, few people can actually integrate all that stuff but you can because you've actually embodied that learning and so you're able to share sort of this integration and that's what makes your framework unique. So, are you working with, you're still working with clients one to one, I imagine. And then you're also teaching classes. Is this school going to be like a group program. So, yes, I love that concept of a group program like, I'm really a big believer to an affordable. I don't want to be a big ticket person. I don't want to be a people doing big ticket everything I want it for the people who, you know, are regular folks who, you know, have a little bit of money that they could 50 bucks a month 100 bucks a month I would love to like support people on that front. I would love to do a membership program and of course I'm not there in my levels yet and I'm really practicing not overwhelming myself, because there's so much I need to do still and so much I realize like I don't have in place. So I'm just trying to like let the vision brew and see how all the pieces line up, but I love the concept of a membership program. Well, we only have a few minutes left and I was going to put you on a spot but I think I think you'll be fine with this. I wonder if you can lead us in a bit of Chigong. To kind of complete our time and so maybe like I don't know maybe three or so minutes, we could we could do this. Yes, I'm going to teach a little Chigong that's good if you're on the computer a lot. Oh, great. A lot of us are. Get your feet flat. Sit up straight in your chair. Take a deep breath in through your nose. Exhale out the mouth. Inhale in the nose. And if you exhale out slower and longer than your inhale you start to shift into the parasympathetic nervous system. So rub your palms together. This is a wonderful way to increase cheap and place your pinkies together and pour that she now into your face with your hands a couple inches away from your face just circle, slow circle, inhaling very slow like you're moving through honey. And you imagine light from your hands pouring into your face and switch directions. Good. Place your hands in front of you fingers forward palms down float your hands down. Good. Now look to the left. Keep your chin parallel. Just inhale and exhale back to the right bring your head all the way to the right and inhale to the left exhale to center. Roll your shoulders back three times and roll forward. Good. We're going to finish. We're going to raise our arms up high and stretch and we're going to exhale a large sigh of contentment. Inhale. Let your hands drop on your thighs. Two more times. Inhale. Research is in that if we sigh content, our brain puts out the brain chemistry of contentment, whether we're faking it or it's real. Wow. Excellent. That was wonderful. I'm going to make sure in the video description, be sure to watch at least the last five minutes to see how this is done. Thank you so much, Tia. Thanks, George. This was fun. Your website is tia-maw.com. Correct. Of course, the links are going to be in the notes of the video. So I'm also going to make sure I put the links to your video channel. As you can tell, wonderful exercises for us. So be sure to check those out. Tia, thank you so much. One for being in Master Heart and being your wonderful self there. But two, just being willing to share your authentic growth journey with your audience. It is a blessing to everyone. So thank you. Thanks, Coach. Yeah. Thank you so much. All right. See you soon. See you in class. Thank you.