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He had 17 in the fourth quarter. Brown 22, 5 and 6 and then you get Brunson, drops in 26. Randall with his 25-9 and 5. Look, Celtics 5-0 at home. 8-2 on the season. Betting favorites to win the entire thing. Best starting 5 in the league. And I ask you all that Chandler just to say is this the best team in basketball? I think it's going to continue to change. Are they the ones I trust the most right now? Probably. You see these other teams getting off to a hot start like the Minnesotans of the world, the Houston's, the Indiana Pacers are currently third in the Eastern Conference. Are they really the third-best team in the Eastern Conference? No, but I think those teams are going to fizzle out and when you look at kind of the slow start that Phoenix is getting, the slow start that Milwaukee is having. Yeah, Boston Celtics right now, if I had to pick one team in the east for sure, I'm going with them. They still got to knock off the champs. They still got to beat the Denver Nuggets in a series, which is not going to be easy. But when you look at this team, it just feels like ever since pre-season, this is their time, they have arguably one of the greatest starting fives in the league. I don't trust their bench. When you look at their bench, they really just go three-deep. They go Hauser, they go Pritchard and Al Horford. I can't say that's a championship-deep team, right? So I like the way they started their home, their graded home. That's an unruly environment to play, but it's so early. But yeah, sure, they would be a top team for me. And they hadn't had any adversity yet. I still like Denver as a top team for me. That would be my vote is Denver. They weathered their storm with Jamal Murray being out with their hamstring injury and still looking like themselves, still playing in a great system and giving themselves an opportunity to win basketball games. And you can't say they're the best team in their second in the east, behind the Philadelphia team who's rolling. They found their second star in Tyrese Maxie. They found a groove that really works for them. So the Celtics are in the mix, but the top team, I give them top three. Top three? Top three is not bad. Good. We keep going with these lists and top everything, because Tatum, you know, I told you he had 35 points. Right now, third-best MVP odds. Chandler, I know you guys love the guy, and I think you had him as your MVP. Give me the argument why I should take him over Jokic, Luka, Embiid. Why? Well, again, I think it's so early that this like last year, if you remember last year, Joelle and Jokic, they were in this race back and forth where one was in the lead and one wasn't. And then it came down to literally a one-on-one head-to-head matchup where Joelle kind of dominated the Nuggets and dominated Jokic. I kind of gave him the push, but you can argue he's on the best team. He's playing a lot of games, but look, this can change. The minute he gets hurt and he misses a stretch or the Celtics go on this four- or five-game losing streak, then we're going to be talking about the next guy, who's the best guy who's currently winning. So winning solves everything, I think, when it really comes down to this. You're going to reward a guy that consistently won and they had a great team. The Celtics at the end of this season, they're going to be there. And if they are there, it's because of Jason Tatum. So I think that's why he will be in that race, because they are going to win a lot of games. They are going to get to the top three at least seed in the Eastern Conference. So Tatum's going to be right there. Hard to believe, really, 10 games in here. Okay, Lou, this is a theme that I really want to dive into. So Porzingas had another great game against his former team. He finished with 21, 6, and 3. The revenge narrative. For us mere mortals, we'd like to think that that is real, that you guys really do get up for playing a former team. Talk to me about that. It is. You want to go back, you want to put on a show in front of those fans that you're used to, the fans that supported you throughout your career. And for Porzingas, that's who drafted him. So every time, and it didn't work out, they didn't have a lot of success with him being there. And so him moving on to Dallas and then finding the home in Boston. He's going to want to stick it to the Knicks every single time they play to prove to that fan base and prove to their organization. I was the guy this whole time. I was good enough. It took me some time, but I'm here now. I'm going to destroy you every time I run into you guys. So that's definitely a narrative. It's definitely a thing. For sure. And I had it happen to me twice in my career where I was drafted by Houston. I didn't want to leave Houston. I was a restricted free agent. Cuban offered me a contract in Dallas. Houston didn't match. So to me, I had this vendetta against them where, damn, like you didn't want to pay me X amount of dollars, but then they go ahead and they sign other guys for a similar amount of money. So it just kind of tells you that this team, basically at the end of the day, they didn't want you. You weren't part of their future. So as a player, as a competitor, as an athlete, you take that personally. Every time you go into that arena, it kind of takes over your body that you want to prove them wrong. I feel like it's a natural human thing to want to do that. And the same thing happened to me when I went to Memphis from Dallas. They could offer me a deal. They didn't. Memphis wanted me. When I went to Dallas, I definitely got up more for that game. Chandler's just driven by revenge. You know, I'm here for the pettiness. I tend for time, Michelle. Do you have a memory line? Trust me, I get it. Do you have a team or do you remember a moment where you just were like, this is my focus? Yeah, I was just, I was my first time going back to Philadelphia after spending seven years there was really an emotional game for me. I think a lot of my family came. It was just one of those, it was one of those games where I really wanted to play well. Very much like Chandler mentioned, the 76ers, they offered me a deal, called me back and said, actually, deal is off the table. You're free to go. We're going to go in a different direction. So I literally didn't get a deal offered to me after spending my first seven seasons in Philadelphia. What's crazy too is even with, it's not just the team with me. I know when I left Houston, they signed Corey Brewer and Arisa. I like hated them when I left Dallas and I went to Memphis. They got Harrison Barnes. I had like a personal beef. They're the nicest guys ever. I love them now. It's hard not to take it personally. But you take it as an after you take it personal where like, damn, they wanted this guy instead of me. So you try and bust his ass for sure every time you go back there. Yeah, this is a big thing, Michelle. And if people say it's not their line, they're full of it. Even like James Harden, like when he went to Brooklyn, I mean, he has a lot more breakups than we have. But when you go back, you want to show out. You want to prove them wrong. Absolutely. I went on the Harden thing, though. I wonder, is he the one that's mad or should it be the teams that he left there about? I feel like they have the bigger... That's the point. It's going to be everybody. It's going to be a lot of emotion in the building. He's probably going to want to have something to prove. He's going to want to have a great showing. And the fans are going to want to have a one-up and get a win. And so that creates great environments for great basketball. And it goes both ways, right? Like when they go to Philly this year, not only does James Harden obviously have stuff to prove, but like Tyree's Max, he's going to try and go off. Joelle is going to try and say, look how much better I am without you. It's all beef, Michelle. Every single time you leave a team. I love it. And yeah, I agree. If you think you're not fueled by that, you're a liar or you're dead inside, either way. On the New York side of things, the guy that we've talked about, or maybe we need to talk about a little bit more, was RJ Barrett. He was not playing last night, had a migraine. So they're 0-3 when he's not on the floor. Is he not getting the amount of love that he should be getting, Chandler? I mean, we talk about everyone else, but he seems to be the piece this year so far. Yeah, he's not. And you know, he's in an unruly market where they're going to rip him apart if he's not competing at a high level. And even this year, he is. You look at his stats. He's ever been 23 and 3, and basically 50% from the field, 50% from 3, 85% from free throw. Not only is he playing level and putting up numbers, he's being efficient. I think that's what he's struggled at throughout his career, where he takes these long mid-range twos. He has these high, you know, 4-for-17 games. He hasn't been great in the playoffs. And now this year, it's kind of showing his value of how important he is. They can't win a game without him on the floor. And that's just kind of how this Nick's roster, I think, is built, right? They have to be all hands on deck. They have to be healthy. They have to be healthy. They have to be whole for them to have any sort of chance. And you can see the glaring hole when R.J. Barrett, those 23 points that defense, the way he can provide the versatility out there, it's a huge hurt for them when he's out. I love that. Considering last year, he just got crushed every year. Now it's a completely different story. Before we move on, I want you guys to tell me what exactly I'm looking at, what is going on here with Josh Hart. Huh. How's that work? Make it work. You know what's crazy? I watched, I even tweeted about this. This is, this is so heads up. This is so crafty. I think he low-key landed and traveled before he got it off. Yeah. I'm definitely traveling in this scenario. But the fact that he got that off, threw it off his back, then caught it, and then hit the three, that was a really, really good fight. Innovative. We gave you some love for that. Yeah, that was brilliant. Give you some love for that. It's kind of fun. It almost looked like a glitch in the system. I like it. Moving on to Cavs and Kings. Here we go. Kings defeat the Cavs, 132-120. Mike Brown with his 400th win. Deirdre Fox finished with 28-6. Yay, welcome back. Donovan Mitchell, 22-5. Okay, Mike Brown, his first two coaching stints with the Cavs, took some heat in Lakers. And now it seems to be, have found his place in blossoming. What has he brought to this team, Chandler? Oh, he's just brought this new level of excitement. He's brought the energy. You see these clips from him in practice, kind of doing the wind sprints with the team, getting on the lead. Turn a jet, son. Yeah, he's hilarious. And this guy has been the perfect guy to kind of give that city and that franchise hope. And he did that last year with low expectations. And now he's got a year under his belt. These guys, Fox and Sabonis, they're a year older, a year more mature. But Mike Brown is the perfect guy for the situation with his personality, with defining this culture that he's bringing to there where they're tough, but they also have fun. And you can tell, when you watch certain teams, you can tell these guys, they like their coach. They're playing hard for their coach. They're giving it their all because they don't only respect them, they personally like him on a level off the court. And that's so important, man. Oh, it's huge. So important. You can tell guys when they don't care and they're just there just to be there. These kids on the second one of the Kings, they love Mike Brown and they play hard every single night. They're not going to win every game, but they play hard every single night. I like the idea that they like their coach. I feel like I'm noticing that more and more when I watch the sports. Look, Lou, you got a president after the game. It's a beautiful piece of furniture. A lovely throne. I'm assuming in your house, you've got 20 of these. I want you to. What do you think about it? My home is throne-less. But this is interesting. Listen, I mean, they are the Kings. They are the Sacramento Kings. So I'm going to say this throne is appropriate being as that is the Kings. Any other team, if you're the Cavaliers or you're the Lakers and you get somebody thrown, they'll be a little weird. But the Kings, it's acceptable. And this goes back to what Chandler said. They really like their coach. He's built culture. He's created a working environment that these kids, they really enjoy, and his team really enjoys. And so kudos to him. Shout out to his 400th win. They're celebrating him. I didn't know 400 wins is like a milestone. I didn't know that was a thing, but... That shows you everything you need to know about how much these guys like Coach Brown and what he's doing there. Because only, what did you say, 30, 40 of those wins are in Sacramento? Only, yeah. Only about 38 of them. What are they going to do with the 500th win? This is just a grand gesture. Was there a crown in there too? I don't think so. This was a grand gesture. No, he had like a mask. This is showing him, we love you, we respect you, and congrats. We got to start getting all the pieces. We get the throne. We get the crown. Then we get some armor. A little challenge for some. We got to get every 100 win. We got to put a piece together. 300 wins. Good Lord. It's going to be fun. Shams, I mentioned the De'Aaron Fox of it all. Yeah, he was back. Great to see him out there. Big game. I mean, how important is he to have him out there? I mean, they're one of the best offensive, not the best offense in the league with De'Aaron Fox in the lineup. And so he's flourished without Tyrese Halliburton there. They make that trade a couple of years ago. And they built the entire program around De'Aaron Fox. They have D'Amato Sabonis and Keegan Murray. I mean, around those three guys is really where they're building their future. And they have draft picks. They have all their picks. They have multiple assets. Salaries where I think they're going to be a player over the next several years. If they want to bring in another star player, bring in another player with those three guys, they have the ability to be competitive in that space. But clearly they built the entire program around De'Aaron Fox. And he's risen. And what he's doing on a daily basis, you can see he's learning. He's shooting the ball better. He's getting to his spots. And he came back from this. It was close to a grade two ankle strength from what I'm told. He came back in just over two weeks. So this is a guy that has shown over his career last year in the playoffs. He plays through a fracture in his finger against the Warriors. And now coming back from really what was close to a grade two ankle sprain in just over two weeks. This is a guy De'Aaron Fox that loves to play. He heals like a Wolverine. It's not nice. He heals like a Wolverine. I know that's quite the talent. Bulls and the Bucks. There you go. Giannis. It just dominates. 118-109. 35 points. 11 rebounds. Vucovic finishes with 26 and 12. Oh my God. Look at this pass. This is one of the craziest pass. That's one of the best pass I've ever seen. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. He's the joker to this team, right? His business as usual, he's gonna put his numbers, he's gonna get going, he's gonna have huge games like he has been having. They're gonna, and no doubt we're gonna get to the Dame thing, he's gonna figure it out. But to me, Chris Milton's so important to this team. I'd love to see him get back to that closing player, more aggressive, off the block, knocking down shots. You would imagine what the way this offense is now set up with Dames based on the floor with the honest attacking, he's gonna get more wide open looks than he ever has in his career. So I think he's extremely key to their success this year. Yeah, and they gotta, it's a clear pecking order in Milwaukee. You know, even with Dames struggles, Yannis says, look, I'll just take over, I'll play great basketball for this organization, and I'll carry us. And I think Chris Milton is in that place where he's seen success at the top. He's seen success all the way at the top and he's had those championship runs. And then you kinda get into that low where the regular season's not as interesting to you anymore. You're ready to play some real basketball. And so that's the only thing that I'm seeing from Chris Middleton. I think he's just coasting right now, dealt with some injuries early on. He's just coasting through, getting ready for the real basketball. Yeah, the minutes restriction, I think he's topped out at 21 in the games that he's played. Which, by the way, is awful, right? Because then you're forcing shots that you normally wouldn't force. You're seeing guys go at the scores table. Right when he does hit one or two jumpers in a row and he's getting a rhythm, he knows he's coming out. So I went through this the last five years of my career, minutes restrictions, they're horrible. You have to do it to prolong your season, to prolong your career, but it is really a tough thing to get going offensively and find that rhythm knowing you're only playing like four to six minute segments. It sucks. It's just lingering that you're coming out at some point. All right, so let's talk about Dame Lillard because here's what's going on. He did miss the two games with the calf injury, but the shooting for him, worse than his career so far, 37% from the field, 27% from three. He's 33 years old. Is this just a simple matter of new place, gotta figure it out or should we be a little more concerned? No, this is a new gym. This is a new gym. We're gonna give Dame some leeway because I confidently feel like he's gonna get this thing going and calf injuries are difficult. You know, when you deal with a calf, you're talking about your explosiveness off the ground. You're talking about constantly shooting, lifting, trying to get through that. So he still probably has some worries there, probably not as confident in his leg as he usually is. So as the season goes on, I think he gets this right. Yeah, and this is Dame Willough. If Steph Curry didn't exist, we're talking about this guy's argued with the greatest shooter of all time. He's a new gym, man. He's chalking up to a new gym. He's getting his feet wet. He's figuring it out. You can even see the way he's playing with us. Other than that first game where he had that look in his eye like he did in Portland where he took over, he's trying to figure out his role and when. It's almost like the clipper situation where it's not just, you don't just throw the ball out there and it works. It takes time, it takes reps. There's offensive systems, there's plays. You don't want to step on any toes being the new guy with an MVP. Like, you're honest there. He knows Chris Milton's coming off an injury. He's also trying to get him going. So this is probably the guy I'm worried about the least in the entire room. His first time in a decade, he's probably been considered the B side guy. Right, yeah, he's option two. Yeah, he's option, he's option two right now. When he can, a lot of nights, he can be option one, but you know, I think he figures it out. I like that option two. Shoms, Bucks missing a big guy last night. What's the latest on Jay Crowder? Yeah, this is unfortunate. Adductor and abdominal tears. He's going to be out two months and this is key, key loss because twofold. This is a Bucks team that's still searching for its identity. And so to lose Jay Crowder, he's third highest minutes played so far on this team. He's averaged eight points, five rebounds, 52% from three point range. So this is a team that's trying to search for its proper rotations, its identity. And now Jay Crowder has been a big part of that. He's out for two months and he's played a lot of minutes because they've gone to minutes restriction for Chris Middleton. He's been in and out of playing in moments. He's been benched a couple of times. So like Chandler said, he's got to find a rhythm but no Jay Crowder for at least the next two months. Not to mention this is already a team that's struggling defensively and this is what Jay Crowder does, right? So not only do you want to unload the, you know, these guys getting offensive struggles, it's because they're often probably focused on the defensive end too. Now losing Jay Crowder, it takes an ownership of now Conaton, Beasley, these other guys that they have to start locking up to let these other guys rock on the offensive end. It's getting interesting. And two months, that sucks. Two months is a long time. Guys, we're taking a quick break. When we come back from the hot Houston Rockets team, Jabari, Jabari Smith Jr joins us next on Run It Back. Are you getting fan art already? Lit. It's actually nice. Let's dismiss Jabari for three and the win. A star is born. Well, I mean, the intro was right there. Jabari Smith Jr joins us right now. The reactions from teammates, perfect. We have three Rockets in the house, Shoms. I feel like you and I are sort of left out on the Houston connection, but we're gonna try to make it work, Jabari. Your team is on a hot street. Sixth straight, you've beaten Denver. You've beaten people that you're like, okay, this is surprising to some, maybe not to you guys. What has been the key so far to the hot start? Just togetherness, you know what I'm saying? Like we just coming out with that fight. You know, we lost a lot of games last year and bringing in Coach Udoka. He just don't like to lose, you know what I'm saying? That was his biggest thing, like play the win, play for each other, and that's what we're doing. You know what I'm saying? He's working out for us. Jabari, like you said, Emi Udoka, first year's head coach. What's the biggest thing he's brought to this team and this organization you guys have agreed on? I would say just cultured, you know? Like everybody knows how he is as a person and how serious he is and just his approach to game and his competitiveness. So I feel like he's just bringing that to us, you know, with the guys he brought in, like Dylan Brooks and Fred Van Vleet, just their demeanor in there, how they go about the game, you know what I'm saying? It's just rubbing off on everybody else. It's just working. What's the biggest difference been from last season under Steven Siles and this year with Emi Udoka? Biggest difference. I would say, just it's not as much looseness. You know, I would say it's a lot more strict, a lot more, I'm trying to look for the right word. Structurally, I would say. Structurally, accountability, a lot more of that. You know what I'm saying? That comes with veterans and taking the pressure off of the coach a little bit, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, all of that coming in and just helping, you know, just making it easier for everybody. Bar, you now got a year under your belt, learning what the NBA game is like, finding out what your strengths are, what your weaknesses are over this summer. I know you've worked on your game, you've built on your game. What's the difference between your game this season and how it was last? This season, I feel like I'm just a lot more sure, you know what I'm saying? I think everything was there, but I just think I was just a lot more sure. And still, I started to tighten up. So, I just wanted to focus on like my hand would be able to take bumps. Just getting a lot stronger, being able to guard more positions. And it was just a confidence thing for me, you know what I'm saying? I just wanted to go into the season confident, get back to myself and just trust my work. You know what I'm saying? A lot of hours in the gym, and I just wanted to trust that and just get back to me. Jibari, like you said, you got added a lot more vets, a lot of talent this off season. So, how much pressure, how much motivation do you feel on a nightly basis to bring it? Otherwise, you could lose your minutes, like Eme Udoka, new coach here, he doesn't know all the young guys. So, how much pressure, how much expectations do you feel? I feel like it's more pressure on myself than anything. I feel like I'll bring the pressure to myself just off of expectations. And I'm just not wanting to lose, you know what I'm saying? I'm not no loser. I don't feel like so. Just going into it, just playing with that fight. And it just, everybody's competing, everybody's working to the same thing. So, you know, with people playing behind me like Tari and learning from Jeff, it's like, you always know they're behind you and always know they got your back. So, it's not like people take your minutes to talk about that type of thing. It's just like a learning to grow together type of thing I'm feeling. I'm kind of glad you brought up the fact you're not a loser. I'm gonna go ahead and tell you that right now. Fared in a state championship, you know, SEC championship with Auburn. And then you get to the league and you're on a young Houston Rockets team that doesn't win a lot of games. So, for you, that sort of mental roller coaster, how did you take that? What did you learn from it and how do you learn from it? It was tough, honestly. You know, I'll be sitting here lying here in my face if I say, I was just thinking like a champ and I was all smiles and knew how to handle it. You know, it was real tough on me at first. You know, it was a lot of days where I didn't want to go to practice. A lot of days I didn't want to play. There was a lot of that, you know? And I just had to find that spark, you know what I mean? Find why I played the game, why I love the game and just get back to have fun with it, you know? Because the record and the losses can get to you. You know, it can get repetitive, it can get tough, you know what I'm saying? I don't know if you all been on losing teams or not, but, you know, it's just... Absolutely, you know that. Man, it's a grind. It's tough, you know what I'm saying? So just finding, leading on your brothers, leading on your teammates, because you know, they're the only ones going through it with you, so that's kind of what I did. And just get close to the family and just know why you play the game, you know what I'm saying? Just play for the love of it. Try to look at your record a lot and just go out there and do what you can, you know what I'm saying? Jabari, the Rockets added some vets to that locker room to that team this summer. One of them being Dylan Brooks, who's become a real thing, to say the least. What's been your experience playing with him from outside looking in with him last year on Memphis to now, you know, being in that locker room with you? Man, I love that, you know, like, people can stay what they want from, like, looking outside of it, but I feel like everybody who's played one of them probably said the same thing, like, just somebody you love to play with, like, somebody who don't care about getting the ball, like, he's just playing to win, like, he just play hard, like, even in practice, like, you play like his game seven, like, he just, it's just something that, that tringles down to everybody, you know, that everybody can, like, feed off of, like, they see how hard you're playing, seeing how much you're talking, seeing just the edge you're playing with, it just kind of, kind of goes to everybody, you know what I'm saying? He, he, he owns you, like, all the time, just a rotation. He gonna let you know, you miss a pass, he gonna let you know, like, and that's kind of what you need, you know what I mean? Not kind of what it is what you need, you need, you need vets like that, you need people who are not scared to speak up and they can show by their, lead by their actions, you know what I'm saying? Cause he don't take no plays off, he don't hold up to his mistakes, he just, just playing to win, you know? They got a lot of other stuff to come with him, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, it worked. So be honest, so be honest, you're saying you're feeding off the things he's doing, things he's saying, as a young guy, what do you think of when he said he's gonna lock up LeBron? Does that, does that motivate you to get his back more? Or are you like, oh shit, he just poked a bear. I'm with him, we're gonna lock him up, let's go. I'm with it, like, you know what I'm saying? When he say that, like he just, he just fired me up, like, yeah, we got LeBron, let's lock him up, like he ain't finna go into it, like we finna just let him come in here and do what he do, like, nah, that's what you're supposed to say, what he supposed to say? That's what I'm saying, so I'm with it. Speaking of LeBron, man, you guys were joking last year about him being old, being as that he played against your dad and I don't know what they're saying about me because I also played against, I also played against your dad. Who has, who has better LeBron stories at this point? You or Pops? I'll say Pops got the best one. You know, Pops seen him when he first, first step foot in the lead, you know, like his first game, it was against Pops. So I feel like he's seen him from the jump and he always said, like, when he seen him play, he was just like, he knew, you know, nobody know how true that is, but, you know, he's seen it, when he, when he said he's seen him play, he said he knew, but I mean, I think I might got a better story. I mean, first time playing against him in LA, he had 48. My matchup, you see on the screen before the game, matchup, Smith, Julia, James, he ended up with 48, season high in them. And Crypto, he hit all the three, he's like, I don't know, I think my story might be a little better. With my dad, with my dad sitting in front row, so you can see all the, all the, all of the whooping I got. That's 48's a lot. Okay, this, this next one's close to my heart. You picked up some yoga in the off season and there's video of you, like you're in a room. I mean, these rooms, for anyone who hasn't done it, it's just a bunch of people. Dude, you're just popping up in a wheel, like it's nothing, no one else is doing it around you and they're not 6'11 either. How have you loved it? Have you found that this has become sort of addictive for you? Yeah, when I first did it, it was so challenging. And I'm seeing the people around me, seeing all the people just breeze through it and like, I'm like, I mean, I'm in there like laying down, like that's a dial, I'm almost like, I need to step out. So it was like, I liked it, like it was like a challenge. And like as I kept doing it, I felt my body, like I felt my body getting more like flexible. I wasn't getting sore as much, you know, like, when you do it for a long time and you stop doing it, like you can feel the difference. Like you can feel like, you know, you get tighter a little bit, like you can feel it. I kind of like just fell in love with it just off the fact that it was challenging, you know, like it was like a grind going in there. I wanted to see if I could, if I could keep up with the person, the person who'd been teaching the class or if I could keep up, it was like competitive to me and I knew it was benefiting me. So it was like just something new to do, you know, and it was like a help with breathing and stuff. It's a lot of benefits to it, as y'all know. Preach, Jabari, I love it. It's my favorite. Sorry, Shams. Jabari, earlier this season you went up against bigger women in Yama, what was that experience like? Like how does that compare to any experience you've ever had playing basketball? It's different, you know, just how tall he is. Like he just, just, I don't think people really understand how much space he takes up. Like he just, like even, like he can be at the nail and his man on the wing, like he's, he's like, he got both of them. Like it's like his arms so long and he takes up so much space. Like it's just, it's just tough. And as y'all know, you can shoot over anybody. So it's not like you can test and shot. It's just, it's just tough. You just take up so much space, you know, like I try to walk into a three. I'm talking about, he looked like he got two feet in the back, he tipped it. I'm like, whoa. Like it's just, it's just stuff like that. Like you really can't, you really can't teach. You really can't get. Like it's just, it's just alien. You know what I'm saying? Like some people say, you know, he, he young, he don't figure it out, but you know, it's, it was tough. Just real tall, a lot of skill. And, and he got a great coach with him. So third teammate, so he playing the game the right way. You know, it was going to work out for him. You mentioned that game against LeBron. Everybody has their coming to the NBA moment, right? Was that one of them or do you have something that happened before in your career? You're like, man, this is different. I think mine personally, was the second game of the season. We played the Bucs. And yeah, and Yannis was my matchup on the board. I said, I says a Coupon slip, Junior. I'm going to do it excited. People coming out of drag, people say I'm a defender. Woo, woo, people making a big deal, all of that. Nah, he probably had 40, probably like, he was probably like 16 for 18 from the field. Like it was like, nah, I wasn't. Making everything, don't it? Man, I'm in the locker room. Like, man, where y'all was at? Like, what's up? Nah, man, I think that was my first welcome to the NBA moment. Like, just playing Yannis and seeing how hard you play. You know, you think superstar, you think, you know, chill, buckets, whatever. But like, he crashed him. Like he, he was a problem, you know what I'm saying? And then later in the season, we got to play him again. And I felt like I was more ready for it. It was just, I felt like that was my first welcome to the NBA moment though. Yannis, the second game of the season last year. And I was at home opener. So it was crazy. I got ripped three times in a row my rookie year. You ripped? Ripped three times in a row. Brevin' Knight picked me up full court. Ripped me lay up, ripped me lay up. I almost get the half court, ripped me again. They sell me out. Alan Iverson said, damn man, I meant to tell you, he got quick hands. You know what's funny, Jabbar? You talk about when you see the name on the board. That's like I had, it said Parsons dash Bryant when we played the Lakers. And I'm just, I'm like, I'm like taking a picture, sending it to my boys. I'm really about to guard Kobe. It's just crazy how it comes at you. You watch these dudes your whole life, right? And then you get mashed up with them. It's the craziest feeling ever. And he thinking on the other side, he don't care about none of that. Oh, he was trying to say, I'm about to bust this white boy's ass. He's offended, I was guarding him, Jabbar. I'm sure that's how they took it. That's amazing. So the in-season tournament continues tonight. Yay courts. You guys beat Pelicans in your first one. Those courts suck. I mean, it's some of them do. The all reds are rough. How are you guys approaching it? And when they came to you and told you about this whole format, was the $500,000, did that get your interest up a little bit at all? Yeah, I think you got my interest up. Might not get somebody into it. Might not get some people interest up, people like Luma and stuff, but it definitely got mine. No, I would love that 500K, especially going to Vegas. I'm going to leave half of it there. It's great though, just like the playoff environment. And they told us it was like, just an opportunity to win a championship, but win something, you know what I'm saying? Playing for something. And you can feel the playoff environment in it. You know, the courts make it kind of unserious. I think the courts just too much. But it definitely gives like the playoff feel like in the arenas and you can feel it. You see on NBA, I have to say in season tournament, like this is different, you know what I mean? It's just, I think it's a great addition. I think it's going to work out great. Yeah, I think it's kind of a cool addition. And you know what? If we hate it, we hate it, but so far it's good. You guys get the Clippers on Friday for your next in-season tournament. A team that is, well, it's something. When the scouting report on this Clippers, this version with Harden, how are you guys going into that one? I'm sure we'll talk about it today. But I think it's just, you know, it's just, just, just worried about us, you know what I'm saying? Not focus on them too much. Just see what areas we can improve and see if we can come out with that same fighting energy that we've had these last, these last six games or seven games and just, just, just see, can we put a whole, a full game to get on the road? You know, all of these games are better home. So it's our test to go on the road and see can we do it in like, you know what I'm saying? In the bright lights and just, just focus on us. You know, we're not going to go into it, focus on them too much. Just go into it, focus on us, see what we can improve and hopefully come out with it. Trebar, you obviously got drafted third overall to Houston. There were some chatter that night. Is he going one? Is he going two? Were you expecting to go number one that night to Orlando? Definitely. You know, I definitely thought I was going to go number one. I thought my workout was good. I thought my meeting was good, everything like that. And I thought I was going to go number one. And I thought I was going to go number two. And then it was just, you know, just got me a little welcome to the NBA moment right there. You know, I'm saying how, how, how much of a business it is and how much, how, how you can't take a person, you know, they, they, they pick who they want in it. You know, you can't really think about it too much, but, you know, definitely had a tip on your shoulder and all of that. But, you know, it's not something I really think about too much, but in the moment, I was definitely like in awe. And like, it was just a crazy experience just because you got so much emotion, right? Right. Because you don't get, because I thought I was going to go one, am I going to go two? Am I going to go three? Like, that's how I'm thinking, like, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, it was just, it was just a lot going through my head, but, but, but my name got caught everything left on my body. Like it was just, you know, achieved my life on a dream. So. So now obviously this happens. So when you do play against Orlando or you do play against Oklahoma City, do you have extra fuel playing against Palo and Chet who went one and two? Oh, for sure. You know, it's just always that, you know, we all have been like, you know, I was in that top five range of high school. So I think the competitiveness is just mutual, like just growing up, you know, and just competing against each other, you know. So it's just always there, you know, just going, just just going into the game, ready to compete, ready to prove people wrong. You know what I'm saying? And I'm sure they're trying to prove people right when they play against me. So, you know, it's just a, it's a mutual competitiveness. Jabbar, the other team in town, the Texans are surprising some folks in the NFL winning some games that people are thinking they have no business winning so far, but they did lose to Atlanta and you did troll them. And then you took some heat. Did you learn any lessons about trolling about football in the great state of Texas? No, I ain't learning no lessons. I'm gonna troll if we beat them again. That's what I'm saying, that's what I'm saying. I'm a fireman's fan. I don't care who getting mad at it. Yes, that's what I'm saying. I don't care who getting mad at it, but it's like, it's like you can't get, you know, if they were the one, I probably would have got something from it, you know what I'm saying? So it's just both ways, you know, so now the Texans are good. See, just try, he can go, he can, he can go, take a lot of them. Like they got, they got a good thing going over there. So, you know, I can say that's my safety. Like how does that work? If you guys are both young stars in the same city, like do you cross paths? I mean, I know your season sort of overlap, but how does it work? He was actually just at the Lakers game we had, you know, he shot like the first shot or something. So I got to sit what's up to him and just tell him to keep going and keep doing what you're doing. Like, like I know the city had before because I know the Texas ain't been good. I know they probably will be mad at that, but the Texan ain't been good. And I know it is just give them hope, you know what I'm saying? They were 5-4 right now, 12-4, something like that. So, you know, they headed in the right direction. They got a great player, great leader to lead them to that. Man, Houston sports on a hot streak right now. Jabari Smith, Jr., we appreciate the time. Best of luck the rest of the way. Also, nice art behind you. Well done. I appreciate it. That's good stuff. Guys, we'll be right back. When we come back, Isaiah said something else about MJ. Yay. We'll talk about that in front of his back return. Run it up, run it back, run it up, run it back, run it up. Yeah, kicking things off with the little you buy in that Tyrese Halliburton is first up channeler. He had this to say about the in-season tournament, quote, I think the greatest incentive for everybody to do it would be an automatic playoff bid. Channeler, you buying that? Why are you laughing? No, it's impossible. You're going to reward a team, 15 games into the season that they are automatic playoff bid. What if they trade half that team away before the deadline? What if it just doesn't make sense? You could win five games or six games, whatever it is to win it all and then go and just win this play-in tournament. Since when is 82 game season and winning a championship? Not enough, I understand. He's saying that this could get the players to play hard and this would motivate them if it's like a younger team that wants to play in the post-season, but this is physically impossible. It'll never happen, so I'm not buying it. Yeah, that's it. It's too early in the season. This tournament's going to be done in December. You're still going to have four months of basketball to play, so to have a playoff bid in December, impossible. Great in theory. Great in theory. The idea of the Pistons winning this and then resting till the post-season, adding some pieces and then winning the NBA championship would be so good. Yeah, not buying it. I like it. He's thinking outside the box. I like where he's going with that. All right, Lou, you're up. Isaiah Thomas said he didn't know that he and Michael Jordan had beef until the last dance document. That doesn't even make sense. Kat. I know that they, I've known they've had beef since I was 12 years old. My wife knows they have beef. Everybody knows they have beef. We are not buying at Z. Why? Why is he saying that? I don't know, Zeke, I don't know. Why is he saying that? Like he's belittling it, like he's making it like it's not an issue. No, like he thinks about me. We have talking points. MJ being the guy in Chicago, you being from Chicago, Detroit beating the Bulls until Michael Jordan finally gets over the hump, learns how to weight train, gets stronger in order to beat you guys, you being left off of the dream team. We have so many talking points and so many things we can reference to this beef. I am not buying. You caught him an asshole yourself, Zeke. We're not buying. Yeah, well said, that's, he knows. Perfect. He knows, we know, everyone knows. Everybody knows. Chandler, Pelicans have lost five straight. They're now four and six on the season. Zion Williamson said that he's trying his best to buy into the Pelican system right now. Are you buying that? This interview, watching it, it's like he was talking, but I could just tell he didn't mean a word he was saying. So no, I'm not buying it. I think he's frustrated. Again, I think he's saying the right things while actually not believing it. He's probably pissed off. He's everything he's went through with his injuries and things. And now he's finally healthy and he's playing. They still got these restrictions and they're not winning. And so no, I mean, it's smart to say. If you showed the clip, he clearly is pissed off and he's not really meaning what he's saying. So that's why I'm not buying it because he's just kind of saying the right things publicly. But no, he's frustrated. I'm not buying it. And he wants to, he wants to win. He wants to take this team to a next level. And for whatever reason, they've had the pieces last couple of years with injuries and different things. They just haven't taken that next step. But no, I'm not buying it. Not buying it. All right, Lou. Denver head coach, Mike Malone, just signed a contract extension. It'll make him one of the highest paid coaches in the league. You buying Mike Malone as the best coach? One of the best? Where are you putting them? I'm gonna buy some of it. I ain't gonna buy the whole thing. I think great coaches are just as, what makes great coaches is the talent that you have on your basketball team. He has the MVP. He has a lot of guys that can play basketball to get them over a lot of humps and get them paid. And so I'm gonna buy some of it. But I like Monty Williams. I like Coach Pop down in San Antonio. But for me, I like T. Lou with the Clippers. But great coaching to me, it goes as far as the talent can get you. So I'm buying some of it. I think he's one of the top coaches in the league. The best, who knows? It goes with your talent. Yeah, I'm buying it. And after watching him at the parade, bro, he was so lit. I'd text Jamie Biggerstaff after, I'm like, yo, this guy, Mike Malone, is a legend. He definitely made a fan in me about him by the parade. I became such a fan, just watching him party. And then obviously you look at everything. I kinda wanna have a drink with the dude. Yeah, I think I will have a drink with the guy. But yeah, I'm hype for him. I mean, like the coaches he said, you throw in Spoe, Mike, the things Mike won, you can't look past that. The way he's taken Denver now to a household name, always a favorite, just coming off a championship. Again, you get rewarded by winning. He's made this franchise a winning organization now, and they're at the top of their game. They do have Jokers, which he's blessed with. Again, you talk about situations for players. Coaches are on the same thing right now. You can inherit a very, very good team, which a lot of these coaches do. Or you can inherit a shitty situation and be fired in three years and just never get your coaching, your head coaching career off taken off. So I think he deserves it. I think he's great. And again, I think he's that personality where Mike Brown, where people like him. People like being around for him. People wanna leave it all on the floor for him. Jailor Raptors Guard, a dentist shooter was upset that the Celtics challenged a play late in the fourth quarter, said up 30. You're not supposed to challenge nothing. You won, it's three minutes left. You shouldn't disrespect us like that. I love unwritten rules. Are you buying that? I mean, it's, I think it's a little, I think it's a little disrespectful. I think it's a little lame. I think the game's over, right? Like you're up 30. So I see what he's saying. But also this is a young head coach. This guy is trying to prove to his team. We're not taking any plays off. We're playing through the whistle. So he's got his whole side of things. But yeah, if I'm a dentist shooter, if I'm the Raptors, I think it's a little lame that he did that when the game so far out of reach. Lou, you didn't agree with that. Interesting, I like that. All right, Jamal Crawford said he would average really high 20s as a starter in the league. Are you buying that? I need more context before I buy that. I just need more context. We old, so are we talking about in our primes or are we talking about tonight? If we go put our shoes on and go out and compete? So I don't know. Obviously Jamal Crawford is a guy that can score a lot of points. I think the only way that the new game, we struggle with the new game is the new foul rules. We were getting a lot of our stuff from fouls being creative with the foul rules and they've taken some of that away. And so can he go out and go get a 20 and go get some 20s? I'm sure he can, but I don't know. I don't have the context. So to answer the question, I'm not buying. Not buying. Do you guys ever think about what you would average if you played in today's game? I mean, if I had a game tonight, it would be ugly. But like he said, if it was in my prime and we were taking average close to 15 points, my career taking like eight shots a game. Imagine if we had the freedom and could unload six to nine. If I'm taking 10 threes, I'm making four or five of them. That's 12, 15 points a game right there. So I understand what he's saying, how the system, it's played different. You're playing faster. People are scoring more points. So obviously that means the guys are gonna average more points. I understand that. But yeah, I think us in our prime getting the rep playing 30 minutes a game. If I'm taking 15 shots, I'm averaging over 20 points a game. I've had a few 20 point averages, few seasons. So I don't know. I feel like right now you can still go and get buckets. Yeah, right? I can get a couple. Right now I don't think I'm making it through layup lines. I hadn't broke a slip. I don't think you are either, Chandler. Thanks, Mitchell. Yeah, no problem. You're sweating, just sitting there. It's weird. We're gonna take a quick break right now. We'll go back, we'll wrap things up with a little prop party and run it back. How dare you. Oh, we got some wizard's fun videos right now. Jordan Poole throwing the ball off the glass for Kyle Kuzma dunk. It's awesome, except for they're down 21 at the moment. Chandler. Yeah, this is corny. Bad optics, fellas. Yeah. Just take the two points, take the layup, get back on D. That's not what you do. If that's cool, I'm grabbing that, bringing it down and laying it. Yeah, get the rebound. Yeah, I'm not being a part of that. You don't wanna do this in that situation. Bad optics. Not a good look. Well, I'm glad you thought that because there's another wizard's video that we can show you right now. I love when a team is forced to play four on five because one guy's doing this all the way back down. What do you, like, what do you do if you're the wizard's and your two best players are these guys? On go. Yeah, listen, they're both extremely talented, right? They're both can go and score points. It's just, I don't see the long game here. I don't know what they're, and I love Zac Leonsis, the son of the owner over there, but these guys need, they need help. They need more talent. They need more vets. They need more players because I don't really see the future here, but these guys, they can go get buckets. Which is, I also, you know, I hate the rip. I hate this. Every single time there's a call, you see players do this. This dude literally ran to the bench to do it and gave up a bucket, which is never good. But yeah, I don't know about the play here. All right, we got a minute to do our prop parties. Chandler, you're up first, go. Okay, let's stay hot. I got the Philadelphia 76ers, I believe. Yes, Moneyline, and I got Mads Moneyline, which I told Conrad I wanted the points, but either way, I'll take Moneyline, it's easier bet. Yeah, you know what? Lou's our Moneyline guy, Lou, what do you have? Yeah, I like to take a gamble. If I'm gonna gamble, I'm gonna take some chances. So I like Spurs Moneyline tonight at OKC. I like them getting a big win on the road. And I also like the Clippers. I don't see this group going 0 and 5 to start. So I'm hedging my bets on that big win on the road for the Clippers, yes. You are in season tournament, are you insane? I got Anthony Edwards, favorite of the show to score 30 or more, and Halliburton to score 20 or more. I like both of these. And then yeah, we've got the courts to look at tonight. I feel like people hate them. It seems to be a distraction. That's fine. That does it for us today. See y'all tomorrow.