 Welcome to Toffy TV. It is the matter preview everton vs Southampton in the Carabao Cup. I am joined by Michael Cosgrove in the studio. Good to have you Michael. Southampton Carabao Cup. This is a cup we've got to try and win surely. Don't surely. Don't get me started. Any cup is a cup we need to win to be honest. For me this game is as big as the game we've just had at the weekend. Southampton, I don't think it's going to be up for it. I think they've got bigger things on their heads in terms of trying to stay up. So for me it's something we've just got to go all out for. Get a really strong 11 in. Bring in a few players. Don't get me wrong for looking forward. But I think we need to put a good 11 on the pitch and make sure we get through to the next round. It's vital. Less than a way. A weight. Which is a tough game. But if you're going to win anything. If you're going to have some game. That's a tough game. If you were playing Leicester in a league game. Would we be saying we should be beating them? Or we've got a chance of beating them? I think for us now the way we're set up. I think teams coming at us is probably better. So the Leicester game I probably fancy a little bit more than this one. Because I think we might be a little bit more complacent for this one. Yeah, I think what I've found so far this season. By my dealing great on it. All of our better performance has been away from good. When we're on the counter attack. We're quite obviously a counter attack inside. I think we haven't been able to transform. Transfer that. Transfer our away performance into our home performance. I think once we do that. I think the home results will get better and better. So you're right it could be that. Less than will attack because that's what they do. I've never been better on the break almost this season. The way we play show. Yeah maybe that leveling up. But we've got obviously that in the future. What does it help us to draw getting done before? Does it particularly help us? I suppose it is the way it is. I think we need to get a strong 11 on the pitch. Bring a couple of plays in. We've got something to prove to try and get into the 11 for the weekend. And go at them. And let's just get a good performance. Get a few goals in and then keep the momentum going now. That's what it's all about. It's that way of momentum. It's what it's all about. We started the season up to the West Ham game. I know how others feel wasn't really disappointing. That's all talk about that one. For the West Ham game obviously our first defeat. We played well at Arsenal but we're beaten. The win at the weekend has really picked everyone back up. So if we can get this win. We've got a couple of wins on the run. When we played these at the start of the season. They just kicked lumps out of us didn't they? Let's be honest. Mark Hughes style. But they've got plays you can hit. They've got plays you're dangerous. Danny Ings has started. I think he's being reasonably good for Southampton so far. The mean is not bad in midfield. They've got big lads at the back. So they're a threat of set plays. I like Cedric the right back. I think he's a really good player in bats. Bethan Redmond. He had plays probably there key man. So it'll be a tricky game. I'm not sure what team Mark Hughes will put out. Whether he'll mix it. Because like you said he might be thinking well. You know we just lost the game at the weekend. He'll be tuning up walls at the weekend. So they might be thinking Saturday's more important to them. I don't know. For us changes we might do. I don't want to see Mark Stechlenberg coming. I really don't. What I would do if I was Mark Hughes. I think I'd just leave the back four. I'm not saying he will because he may bring. I don't know whether. I don't think she'll be full. Bains could be backing couldn't he? Bains probably coming for this day. And maybe Mason Hullgate will come in at the back. I don't know if he'll come. I don't know whether I'd just leave that back four and just go let's build up some momentum. You've got a clean sheet. Let's build on that. I agree but I do think for Bains in particular I'd have them backing for this game. I think we'd need to keep them a little bit fresh. Keep them involved in and around the squad and playing some minutes. He's not going to let us down. He's not a top off is he? Exactly. But the sense of back part. It's a goalkeeper. He can play a few games. Absolutely no worries with that. The sense of back here I agree. I just think they've got a partnership. That's the main thing. Individually are the best defenders in the world. Probably not but together they're starting to form a real good partnership which is vital. So to keep the triangle of the goal in a two sense of back together to me definitely I'll keep that in as much as we can. If we can get a nice little lead or something 20 minutes ago you might want to take one off protecting for the weekend or something on stage first. What would you do with John Joel leaving me? 100%. He's developing in the team. He's a young lad. He's developing whilst playing week in week out on the Premier League side. Is he the best defender in the world? No as you have the potential to get better 100%. But going forward to get great crosses in is willing and to be honest on that pitch for us there'll be no one that wants to win more than him and I think that comes across whenever I watch him. That's the biggest thing I feel with him. It's that will to win. No, I'd stick with it. I'd probably just put Banes in for the reason of keeping just keeping him fresh because he might get in. I mean you're moving into midfield and you're looking at who will come in. You think it's Snyddling? Probably a player. I should have met him. Maybe for Ghana. Tom Davis. Split. Opinion. Now we've never had the proper conversation. So where are you in the Tom Davis argument? For me the Tom Davis one I don't understand how it even splits opinion. I know it does but I don't understand why. For me he's one of our better midfield players. He's comfortable on the ball. He's energetic. Again another player, a young lad he just wants to win and you can feel that coming through him. But most importantly he keeps the play going. You need something just keeping it going. I think I've seen what you say before on previous videos. Obviously he gives the ball away a little bit more. You will if you're going forward. There's the risk he passes on to you. If you look at him, he's trying to get a split defences. So a lot of time that will be intercepted because you're trying to get it through and you haven't needed it almost. But when it comes off that's the pass that caused the team open. He's going to do that. He could play risk free like Morgan and have 95% pass completion. And then we'd more about that. But that's it. We'd more about it and go south. Listen I'm like you. Is he the best midfielder in the Premier League? No of course he's not. Does he have potential to get better? Yes he does. If in three years he hasn't improved then yes fair enough. I'll accept any criticism that people want to say is he good enough. It may be that as we move forward he becomes a squat player anyway. Hopefully that does happen. We've got better then it's up to him then to try and get up to that level. But after a minute he's as good as what we've got. Garnah look like at the moment while Gomez is out and James McCarty is out they look like our best most mobile midfielder. Now I'm an advocate of maybe dropping Guilfee back into the eight alongside Garnah and trying that with Bernard further ahead but if that's not the way it is it's fine I don't go. He's making mistakes by playing him. I don't mind that. Does he need to do more in games sometimes? Of course he does. I don't think so. I don't know. I think Snadl will come in just for this game I think he'll be back in. I don't know which one it will be for so I don't mind it will be Garnah. I hope it's for Garnah. I think Tom and his age he can handle playing a midfielder. I think Snadl has a really good start of the season. He's another one that I'm surprised he was here. Gobsmacht he was here for the start of the season. He showed a good attitude about him. 100% and that was fair enough. Again it shows what the manager is doing behind the scenes. I didn't think we could get that out of him again. Clean slate time wasn't it? That's what I would hope. I think the majority of Evertonians have done they can't have just gone right let's start again. Clean slate let's go it's years air out let's start again. Some still struggle with Davies and they still struggle with Keane because of the preconcepts that they have of them and they might not change their opinion and that's fine. I think for the likes of Snadl and it's good that he has come back and shown that little bit of desire. Who do you want to see come in then? Bernard. So where would you like to see him play? I don't want to see Towson in up front. Sod him jumping out. These are the plays you want to see. I'd give walk off a little bit of a rest and I'd probably put Bernard either on the right or the left and then switch for Charleston maybe round. What about Luckman? I don't know he's not seen anything yet to say he deserves it. We haven't go with Davies and John Jo Kenny and we've got the right attitudes and everything yet. We're backing a ladw showing us nothing since he's been here. He's got all the potential in the world. Absolutely and I didn't want him to go and I'm glad he stayed but until he shows something when he at least comes on as a sub and when I say show something I mean attitude, forget the football ability but just showing a willingness to want to get stuck in. I don't think he deserves it. I'm like you, I think he's got loads of ability. I'm glad he stayed or at the time I was glad he stayed because I thought once the window passed I thought you know what he'll get his head down and go like I'll show you that I'm a good player and a couple of cameos he's seen him he's come on and just look like I mean my seven year old the first game he come on he was like why is there a little kid playing with men and that was that he said daddy looks like a little boy playing with men and he was right he's just like lost and you're like get on the ball, he's got the ability he picks you up and you can go too often for me he runs into a format with his head down so he just loses the ball he goes and then they're breaking you're like well you know what was the purpose of that kind of thing but I think he's a good player I think I don't know whether I have on chosen to play and I really hope he does play because I think the goal will do him good and see if we can get him another one but I just wonder if Marco Silva is considering using the charles and as a striker in this one as an experiment I'm hoping not for his watches but Towson for me for the way we want to play and the way we're playing I don't think having the explosive pace down the middle is how we play the pace is coming from wide so I'd rather see Towson playing and I'd rather Rich Alison stick to his position for me personally but I'd have no qualms if he was playing down the middle because I think he could do a good job but I don't think that to me saying Towson's not the answer and I'm a massively I think he's everything we could get at the minute I don't think there's anyone better I like Towson, I do I think he's a good player and I think he will score goals and I think he's much better he looks much better when he's got Rich Alison and Walcott flanking him because like you just said I thought against Fulham when he came on I thought we just went up another level because of him I think Dominic Calvert-Lewin is a young lad layer in the game I think he's quick but I just don't think he does enough he doesn't keep the ball he doesn't look a threat of scoring a goal and again kind of passes on by it's not his fault at all he's a young lad layer in the hardest trade there is it, you know I think when Towson comes in the experience is that he's backing into people his touch is great he's skillful, alright he hasn't got Lewin's pace but everything else is good about him and I think all that I would say to the young is get yourself in the middle of that box all the time saying Saturday Theo's just done that without looking and he's there and you've got yourself a goal get in them areas because that's what he was doing last season because he was scoring goals with this season cos he hadn't scored in the first couple of games he was coming out of the box he was drifting wide and that was what his game I think was and we were failing if he's in the middle of the box we can put crosses in and we can get on the end cos he's brave finish with a Z finish with both feet for me he's a player that I don't think we need to worry about I think it'll just come naturally in a few games but the games when he wants to score 100% we all left him and we backed on last season and he was let's be honest he was good last season he's done us a job last season but this season he's looked he's looked I don't know whether he's just thinking I'm not getting the game in I want to move on, I want to go and play cos he's 28 at the end he's not even in the 18 at the weekend I think he was the week before he was I think the best I'm getting kind of might have put the lead on him he's just bouncing off him he just hasn't backed the player that got the wrist in he just hasn't got back to what we lost last season so I don't know whether he maybe needs to go and play some games and just get his rhythm going scoring goals again probably a good show I'd be a bit disappointed if we rock up to that and he's on the starting level so he's put it that way I just think at the minute drop down a level get some goals, get some touches whatever's happening behind the scenes it ain't working for him I thought he'd maybe go up another little bit of a level just through having worked with Silver previously but we need them You know what else I think as well I think the other thing is because the team's better now the highlight is deficiencies more so because we've got the Charleston Real's live, we're in a threatened pace we've got Bernard, he's silky and such is great it kind of highlights the things that you and I can't do so to speak, so when he comes on it's like bouncing off and people are getting frustrated I think he's a good sub he's a nuisance isn't he I'd like to see him on the bench and last 15 maybe even 20 whatever throw him on that's what he's like isn't he but I just think for me is that we need to send him in January big sentiment field I think if we could I mean Gomez might come in and be fantastic but we're all right for now then because we've got this and hopefully James McCarty will be fit as well James McCarty's I think the style of player we're playing now but obviously how long he stays 5th or 14th but it's quality he looks like a Marco Silver player pressing in your face physical good he's well built lad he's strong so he could that's what you want you want you want to be able to look and go I feel going to be here oh my god he's out and he's out we laugh to play bladi bladi it's like well you know what he could play McCarty and Gomez today it could be Garner and McCarty or Garner and Gomez and you go well that's good on the bench you know get Jerry Mina back available so you know you're right I think for me I think Baines yeah I understand where you come from 100% believe in Baines Bernard definitely for me he's got to start got to and Towson I think I think more or less it nail on the head but Charlison I just wonder if he'll give him a little bit of a blow because he trucks on heavy kicks and that's always the thing with him isn't he and he was limpin and stuff so I wonder if he'll just have him on the bench just in case we need a spark you know with half an hour to go I think Theo's more likely to be able to to do an hour because he's just the way he is Lachman like you I don't think he's done enough to deserve it Caren Dahl she played very well I wouldn't mind see Dahl maybe playing as the 10 and maybe being out on the left see this is what might happen Guilfee might be the one that sits off as well Bernard left jank down the middle Theo on the right Caren Dahl and then Snidelin and Garner or Snidelin and Davies in the middle with Baines because that's still what you're doing then to Dahl is you're protecting him with senior players anyway you're not putting four in and going try because these will have a good try though whatever side they pick it's going to be a tough one but you're right he's a player who's got loads of ability you can hear him on the show loads of ability in that left foot it's just can we get a bit of consistency out of it but you're right the number 10 role might suit him and who knows you might ping a bit of Kovalin might ping a Kovalin and we're all going Dahl's got to play in the weekend that last day you've got to what are you predicting is Denzy Fancius I do I'm going for 2-0 another 0 if we keep that just bringing Baines on and penalty don't shake you're confident you think we can get that I think we'll get past them and we should get past them but I'd like to see a clean sheet I'd love to see another clean sheet because I'm going to go for 3-0 but our fingers crossed for the clean sheet there you go let us know what you think in the comments section be a lot of big thanks for coming in joining us on this preview yeah do you think we can do it can we set up that tie with Leicester and what changes would you make if any falls tomorrow night against Southampton if you haven't subscribed please do so it won't take a second 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