 Good afternoon pastor David. Hey John welcome everyone to a random moment with pastor David unfiltered on Tuesdays We like to discuss current events and on Thursdays It's more teasing out what you're going to teach on Sundays, but today pastor. It may be it's not so much a current event But in conversation with you yesterday We were talking and you mentioned something interesting You said there are two kinds of pastors and I wanted to see if you can share a little bit more About this. Yeah, I was speaking actually about something I had read something that had been posted that I thought was interesting and and Basically someone had posted something that sounded like this is not an exact quote, but Sounded like there are two kinds of pastors those who teach through the word of God and Those who should get out of the pulpit, you know, and so we were talking about that because of the value that we place on being a Bible exposer and there are quite a number of men who seem to not understand the purpose of a Church the purpose of People gathering together and they confuse it apparently with some kind of social exercise or some kind of political rally or some kind of Counseling session or perhaps encouraging people to forms of self-help or whatever and they take the Sunday morning sacredness of a pulpit and They make it into something. It's not intended to be And so yeah, that's what we were talking about a little bit yesterday It's that there are pastors who are called pastor who don't actually really understand what the call of pastor is There are those who don't understand that that God has given some to be apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers in order that they might equip the saints for the work of ministry and the way that you equip the saints for the work of ministry isn't Filling them full of the latest political rhetoric or who they're supposed to vote for or how they see the last days Shaping up and all and giving their opinions and then trying to bolster them with With statistics that they have found somewhere by googling things They're not actually given Bible studies and there are many churches that don't there are many who on television today who I I personally could not sit for 20 minutes in one of their quote-unquote Church services because Jesus is not the center of what's going on. It's the very often it's the pastor talking about his exploits or those whom he knows or Places that he's been or those whom he advises or you name it But it's not a solid Bible study and at my age, especially I don't have time to Kind of like pick and choose through what's being said as to what is scripture and what it's not and what is Opinion and what is just solid Bible teaching Solid Bible exegesis where you get into the scripture and determine the meaning of the passage There's a lot of what is called Isegesis today, which is reading into the passage that which you would like to see there and then using it to bolster a point That you've come to in a presupposition. There's an awful lot of that today. So yeah, we were talking about that Somebody responded to that post by saying oh All that Bible teaching does is creates division And I thought what a what a very uninformed way to think Bible teaching is naturally going to create a division in the sense of you know truth from error is going to be Revealed right there's truth here and there's error there The truth is going to naturally reveal the error and so yeah if you want to say that But this person who wrote this long diet tribe against teaching the Bible and then citing to quote misquote and quote scripture to bolster their point That that caused me great concern because this person thought that their thoughts were valuable enough to actually Write out so all could read them when in fact They were so uninformed and so just wrong I began to wonder how many people Agree with this sloppy thinking Where you say That that the Bible is not important to be taught and then you start trying to quote the Bible to bolster the point That is not to be taught Wherewithal shall a young man cleans his way by taking heed there to according to thy word That word I have hit in my heart that I might not sin against you And God tells us you know to to obey him to do those things which he commands and And the the call of the teacher is to to present and clarify those things so that people can hear What God says and rightly understand it because it's been rightly divided and that's where the pastor teacher comes into the body of christ and This blatant ignorance of the things of God and then to actually put your opinions out there for people to read and be influenced by Is a tragic condition in the church today john And so now that's what what used to be called the lame and that's a person who doesn't have Pastoral or elder or deaconate position, but it's there and so Yeah, I was looking at this post and I was reading the quote and I said, you know, there's truth I've been saying that a kind of thing now for many years I've said if you cannot teach the word of god get out of the pulpit It is not a place for you you're influence people for eternity and just this last sunday When we're looking at jesus is speaking to his apostles these are the men who are to take his message Throughout the world and he says if you're if your hand offends you cut it off if your eye offends you pluck it out If your foot offends you cut it off It's better to go in lame Or to go in with one hand or to go in with one eye to go into the kingdom of god Then it is to enter completely whole into into hady into geena into the The lake of fire and so that's that that's that's talking about getting rid of the things That offend getting rid of the things that would keep you from entering in so be careful what you do Be careful what you see be careful where you go because When you're taking the wrong routes and doing the wrong things you're going to end up in the wrong place, right? Where'd we get that idea from from jesus himself who was speaking to his disciples and saying to them You need to you need to realize the cost of discipleship is very high You yield yourself completely and you follow completely Where do we get the instructions in following if it isn't from the word of god and if we have pastors who are more concerned With who's the next president then where you're going to spend eternity with those pastors out of going to politics And a real pastor ought to take over the church To lead them to heaven because that's really what i'm supposed to be doing. Well, jesus was so blatant about Dealing so harshly with sin Where he's using remove your hand or pluck out cut off your hand pluck out your eye Then i'm wonder how much more is the warning against those pastors who are on the pulpit And not being used well, you know if if you cause one of these little ones who believe in me to stumble It would be better for you to have a millstone tied around your neck and cast into the deepest portion of the sea of galilee So jesus took it very seriously And that's why he would tell and correct the scribes and the Pharisees And all who would come in opposition. That's why he he called them false guides That's why he said that you're like whitewashed tombs. That's why he spoke so harshly towards him Because he said these people are sitting in moses seat You know With authority giving out his law He said so the things that they say when they're correctly interpreting presenting those things do but the way that they live do not follow So no from the very beginning of the in the old and in the new there are there are warnings about bad teaching false teachers and all And the sign that we're living in the last days the sign According to matthew 24 Is deception and so pastors who are in the pulpit and are not preaching god's word but are actually I don't know collecting Spiritual scalps or bodies in their church. I don't know what their purpose is honestly don't I don't know what their purpose is. I don't know why they're there Go into politics or go into some kind of public work that you can do your good things for people and help them It's not that we don't need people to be influenced and inspired to do right But I don't go to church And I and I never have so that I I might walk out knowing who to vote for I just don't I I I think if I read the word of god and I vote my conscience And I'm in a church that teaches god's word to help to form it I think I'll do just fine, but there are there are numbers of places now that I could point to That are disappointing in and grieve my heart and I'm certain Grieves the heart of the lord in many ways also Not that I'm speaking for him, but that was part of what we were talking about just yesterday And so it's important that we take those especially the pulpit pastors take the pulpit very seriously because literally pastor it's Eternity's in the balance And and so well pastor. Thank you for sharing that that was our conversation was interesting yesterday And I thought this would be a good topic for our conversation today And so thank you pastor for sharing and I want to invite our church family to our church services tomorrow Evening wednesday evening at 7 p.m. As you're continuing chapter 4 of Ephesians We'll be looking at verses 7 through 10 tomorrow We're looking at the gifts that god gave to the church and interestingly enough We're looking at verses 7 through 10 tomorrow as a as a preliminary But we move on in the verse 11 following in the purpose of the word of god being taught And why did god give? pastors and teachers to the church and all of that then he calls he calls pastors and teachers apostles prophets And evangelist pastors and teachers he speaks of them as as Gifts of grace that god gave to the body of christ And so we'll look at those those things soon. It's a two-part in that chapter And then shortly after that you'll be on your way to israel going to israel Yeah, I'm excited looking forward to it and we'll even try to get some things out here done for the church family as we're out there and Talking, you know, probably one of the greatest gifts pastor at the church is I mean I'm sitting right here pastor, you know, so I was waiting for you going to stay there You're not a gift to the church Oh, thank you church family for tuning in God bless you. Thank you pastor David for your time and we look forward to seeing you soon God bless you