 Good morning to you, Karibu Bak, to I-245 TV. This is why in the morning, hashtag WCW and strength of a woman where we get to celebrate women and highlight what they're doing in the society. This week's strength of a woman, we get to highlight Sharon Jepchichi, who is a civil engineer and thriving in the male-dominated arena. Karibu Sana, Sharon. It's good to have you. Good to have you too. It's very cold. Thank you for having me. It is cold. Where? And it's raining outside here. It's raining? Yeah, it is. Oh wow. Sometimes to kick up and then you have to join because of the soundproof studios, so you ah it's a lot but thank you for making time. Coming from the farming community, we are grateful for the ring. So, some of us are afraid of rain. Tulea, can I rub it? I know. It's understandable. So, it's okay. So, who is Sharon? Well, first, my name is Sharon Jepchichi. Sharon is a young jubilant and vibrant youth in the society. I am a civil engineer, calm politician and I am an part of an action group called Community Outreach and Action Development Kwaad Kenya, which is a group which we tend to do a lot of mentoring, a lot of triplanting, the green economy and generally anything that is upcoming in the society definitely we normally have a lot of things that emerge. So, we cultivate and take in anything that will be beneficial to the society. Let's just start right from the top, like let's just hit it right, the bull's eye. How did you end up at civil engineering, I mean, if we go by the common myths in the society that women can't do these things, women can't be architects, they can't be civil engineers. So, you end up in that field. How did you end up there? Yeah. So, you find most male dominated spaces are finance, engineering, construction, a medicine and others, even politics. So, starting from where I stand in, I mean two male dominated spaces. First is the civil engineering part, famously known as construction or Tom Django. And the second is the political part. I'll start with the civil engineering part. So, growing up civil engineering was not really one of my dreams. I wanted to be a pediatrician, but along the way I started developing the passion for civil engineering, the construction part, the architectural part and to be honest I was among the few girls, we were I think five girls in our class which tells you that by the time we were doing this course not so many ladies, till now not so many ladies have ventured into this course. So, civil engineering, yeah it's tough. Being an arena where there are so many men, we are out there and you might end up maybe you're one of their leaders, but now you're leading men. There are so many challenges, but before we reach there, I got into it through friends who did the things that I did, but they are male. Wow. No, politics area. I'm a leader since way back primary school. Growing up I've been on the forefront of each and everything that students do, class prefect, tukandika nusmekas, tukagroups, high school, forefront leadership also, scouting, class representations, community representations. Back at home I'm a leader in several youth groups that is and politics has been of interest and I actually vied for mca and they resented and they resented concluded elections and I was the only lady amangist for men. Yes. So, yeah. Where? You damn found it? Yeah. Yeah, I know. That's a lot. That's quite a lot you do. Yeah, it is, it is, it is, it is, but it was quite fun though came with a lot of challenges if I may I highlight some. You find, wow, women in politics, women, I salute all women in politics, the likes of Kenabo Shole, Sabina Chege, we saw yesterday that she was appointed and you saw how she has risen from, she was a nominated MP then along the way chief she rose after ladders. Yeah and all the spaces she's been in are male dominated and we've seen them being bashed here and there as they rise but irregardless they fought for what they believed in. So, me being in this space also I encountered a lot of challenges challenge number one for women especially young women in in this political era we tend to get the the aspect of who will marry you now that you are in the limelight but irregardless I fight, I fight to let people know that there are so many misconceptions and so many what's the word so many things that's around politics and women specifically women in politics that isn't true you find we're just leaders like any other leader like any other person who's in any department or leadership only there that we are women so with the sense that while at it we tend to fight for women rights maybe we fight for community proactiveness we fight for what we believe in as a lady I believe that as a lady I am equally equally as that man who can rise and be do whatever so what are some of the challenges you have experienced in those areas you've you've been thriving in so in civil engineering the biggest challenge I've been experiencing I have been a site supervisor for quite some time before I left and did some other things and sorry site supervisor is like wale uko kwa sites una supervisor kwa kijenga yeah yeah construction site supervisor so while at it you find we call them operatives you call them watu amkono those people barely take directions or instructions from female especially while when you're young and they are older than you it's tough but you have to to believe in yourself first believe I can do this then secondly be affirmative know that this is one what I want to pass it to you no one and believe that uh if if I've said this you know should be a yes should be a yes stand on your ground and possess possess that leadership qualities whereby if you just walk in be yourself each and every time you don't have to impress anyone you see when you walk in today and be grace every day be grace every day be grace you don't have to to do whatever I want you to do so you find along the way I will fall into your path so it takes time for you to calculate that into them but eventually they fall into place secondly in a in this other field the biggest challenges I encounter is you see the society has this passiveness where women cannot sit in male spaces for example if men are having a instance we all know that a lady is maybe supposed to come serve and go come maybe take directions and go but now we find I'm in a space where I'm supposed to sit amidst men amidst older people so you find the men might even ask you are you married oh wow yeah they will are you married I'm like no I'm not married so they'll tell you so why why are you here really yeah what does my status have to do with but that is the challenges we undergo out there oh wow yes you have to be married maybe to be in these spaces and if if at all you're married I have a friend who's married in politics they tell you we don't want people's wife here oh wow so what you they don't want women so we try our best to fight for our spaces there and if you've seen women who are in this higher positions they might have done quite a number of things quite a number of achievements but they are not seen but if a man comes today and just does something sure it will be seen or if you you as a lady does something this other person as a man does something which is similar the man's effectiveness will be so impactful more than the women's activity or project so with that you find we tend so much to show off in the manner you find we as ladies trying to force things in the omone to onekani you get we are trying our best to be seen so if we would have spaces where the female and the male were just on a certain bar where it doesn't matter who you are or what gender you are it would be nice but women are thriving out here believe me they are and I don't know if you've noticed this so many women right now are being appointed in lucrative positions talk of chief executive officers managing directors even small small positions that we've seen male being given those positions now women are thriving in that in them what do you think this is it's because we as women when we are given our subjected a project or an activity we do it to our at our best our we do it to perfection unlike when it is given to a man you had you had you had given the story of how you ended up as a civil engineer probably do a recap on what is civil engineering about you know probably I'm assuming that I understand and there's someone out there who doesn't yeah so civil engineering it's it's civil and structural engineering so civil and structural engineering is basically construction and in this construction we do both we do road construction building construction bridges airports anything that entails constructions it also covers the architecture parts the survey parts yeah that is civil engineering dams oh yeah that's why they say after god it's a civil engineer oh wow given that you had already given us the story of how you ended up as a civil engineer um and you've told us what you are doing as um as of now site super site supervision how is it like it is enjoyable it is fun with the sense that today you've been presented with a I'll call it a drawing it is an architectural drawing so normally people get to see the 3d part of it you just see ahi in yuba image image shoravizuri but now it entails a lot of things so when you given I think you've seen the layout how detailed it is then you go to the site this is just bare land shrubs and everything but with this piece of land and shrubs and all that you're supposed to create a life civil engineering we have uh dead loads and live loads so we work so much on the dead loads so I'm supposed to create a building out of this and I'm it's supposed to come out as precise and exact and accurate as it is on the plan so executing that from scratch to the last finish part is the most enjoyable part the most enjoyable part then seeing how your your operatives your co-workers beat deadlines how you bring together your brains to just see to it that this client is satisfied is so much enjoying so you um the architectures draw a plan yes you actualize the plan yes do you do you like do you find in our civil engineers that draw plans yeah civil engineering is basically an umbrella of all this as a architectural survey we have the quantity survey as we can we can do all of them but you see you can't be jack of all trades at the same time so you have to you have to just find your niche see what you're best at and perfect on it then once you if if your niche is a architectural drawing you will now perfect that and you will work with someone else now you want you can't come do this do that do that it won't it won't go well so some you have to work with other people so how many years did you school uh 2017 2021 yes four years that's four yeah four years i thought people stay longer in school so uh i've done two courses i've done computer science which i never finished then i who i jumped into civil engineering i started from the diploma level and now i'm in second year in the degree level so diploma took you four years yes because of kovid and all that yeah so how long do you expect the degree to take you three more years so that's like five years it takes five years yes are you in any of the bodies like um we see the way we have for us in media we have mck blah blah blah so are you in any are you in any of those bodies so in engineering we have engineers board of Kenya which is uh which uh a civil engineer preferably will fall under we have others like the quantitative service board of Kenya and uh so me i'll fall into the engineers board of Kenya but unfortunately in Kenya to to get the engineers board of Kenya certification you have to have a degree so if you have a diploma higher diploma you can't acquire that certification you must have a degree to get that engineers board of Kenya certification by the moment i'm registered with national construction authority uh yeah national construction the nca yes what does that do national construction authority uh supervises all constructions in Kenya kiyonam jengu iman imianguka ama kosa nihaw they never went for proper inspection but now they register people as contractors so i'm registered i'm registered as a contractor at the same time and i'm registered as a site supervisor i'm let me ask you just a curious question that has come to my mind yes when a building collapses now that you've mentioned it when a building collapses who who who do we blame because for us we will start saying oh when you are in jengai njumba oh when you are in njumba piai njimbaya you know so when a building now from a professional point of view when a building collapses who's to blame this is a 50-50 question i'll talk on both ends sometimes i'll i'll start with the village or let me say the the client perspective sometimes a client who goes to what do you call an architectural engineer goes to the architect requests for a plan after being given the plan anenda na sema anataftafundi wulem chip so akenda kitaftafundi wulem chip and kenya bing kenya wana patapamit through backdoze say anenda ana patapamit zake and he's good to go anenda ana patafundi wakem chip he goes does his construction and two years or even months down the line the building collapses and why does it collapse because it hasn't met some certain requirements you find when we are doing construction we have to do a lot of tests we have to do tests of the soil we have to do tests of the concrete a lot of tests are done to certify or make sure that it is up to standards on this other end sometimes the national construction authority are just negligent with the sense that umona inewe this building is not up to bar but you still go ahead and certify them they don't do regular checkups they don't do regular um they don't follow up you i know you now as grace you know me as Sharon you come to my office ah simi naju agres sila zima niende kwa ground ya ke kwa confirm if the building is going on well so i just leave you do your things and off you go but look at it uh this perspective i'll have you ever seen uh this people uh i'll use the indians for instance have you ever seen any indian building collapsing i'm sorry to use that but have you ever heard of any indian indian owned building collapsing rarely because these people they they follow all protocols all protocols and can we say this is because uh they are foreign in our country so since they they are foreign they follow all the steps that the government has outlined then us since we know who we kujwana we tend to do our shodewak could we say that is the reason i don't know so what's the biggest project you've done so far uh the biggest project i've done some buildings in eldorets and uh at the moment i was attached to a certain building i've been doing survey work in westlands here it's coming up right well so very soon you'll see the work here okay so you've added the aspect of survey yeah into engineering do you mind shedding some light into survey survey we have land survey we have uh quantity survey we have survey is a very broad area but in alimans language to make sure to make sure that this table is flat or to make sure that a certain inclination has been achieved so you find uh like in the roads on the roads we have we have the bumps we have the alignment of the road in the buildings we have normally you find the flow of the when you pour water water flows at a certain direction so basically survey was just involved there yeah um what do you think is the greatest impediment for women to getting into this mail dominated spaces come up again uh what do you think is the greatest challenge for women to get into this mail dominated spaces uh i think the biggest challenge is uh you find most women to start off have been perceived to be housewives secretaries and maybe this English teachers i'm not saying those are bad but you know that is i can say female dominated spaces as the receptionist and all that so starting from way back in primary school you find when we were growing up we are told not even told you find the teacher beating a boy because the boy has failed sciences but a girl who has failed sciences won't be beaten reason being women kitchen of a kwanguka science women instant of a kwanguka English you see it starts from there then uh progressing you find women tend to these can i say career segregation whereby we've been perceived that women can do this and cannot do this mail can do better in this and cannot do this so while while someone is growing up asha g diminish that can do this so the biggest challenge is i think we need a lot of mentorship and a lot of guidance to both genders women and men but women so that as growing up you know i can do this i can i can be whatever a man is i can step in wherever i want to be then once you've grown up we need also to to teach women to be bold enough to walk tall you can do anything that you want you can be whatever you want only that you need to to walk in there with the fact that you will face a lot of challenges you will face maybe sexual harassment you will face discrimination from the male counterparts you will be belittled but irregardless you should know what you want you should stand tall and find a mentor find someone who can see you through whatever you are doing yeah um let's take this conversation a different direction a bit okay when we started you mentioned that you do mentorship in a couple of community development projects yeah please tell talk to us about that so at uh i mentioned about kwaad kenya kwaad kenya is community outreach for action and development so at kwaad kenya we we we mentor girls we've been mentoring several schools and we mentor women in in the community there is this space that has been as we venture into agriculture you find beekeeping who does beekeeping if i may ask you so men have been perceived to be the only people who do beekeeping but now with kwaad we are trying to tell women you can also do beekeeping and beekeeping is a very nice farming activity and we are really championing for women to venture into beekeeping using the modern methods uh at kwaad kenya also we are mentoring at the moment kenya is on the green campaign and we've been doing the green campaign since way back the existence of kwaad so with kwaad we've been doing planting trees with organizations with schools with youth with community and we've done a lot across the country yeah so we've been working with also the green mp and we've seen her thriving so much she might be our next so how did you end up at beekeeping i mean it's very it's not one of those things people do no we are used to seeing people do sanitary towels with women but now here you are doing something quite different so how did you why beekeeping uh you find yes we do also the sanitary part uh and a lot of uh menstrual health training with the girls in several girls schools but now you find uh especially let me let me go back to the village elgiomara kwaad county and wazengisha county but now elgiomara kwaad county there are so many forests there and it's a bountiful county where we have we're very rich and women need to venture into an economical space they just don't need to sit down and most of them they are not only do they do farming they need something else that they can they they can and from so having seen beekeeping as uh thriving and emerging thing at the moment kenya we've not so much embraced beekeeping and like tanzania tanzania is really coming up with bee beekeeping and women championship so we saw to it that since no one is doing that no one is educating women in our society that men no longer need to do this the beekeeping only because it was perceived that it should be placed high up in the trees or high places we can just do it in a modern way and from it we can harvest a lot and from the beehives we get a lot of uh maybe after harvesting the honey we can regenerate something out of the what do you call the honey coms yes economically so how many women have you so far mentored uh we've mentored quite a number of women because we move with the there are these women groups in every community so we approach the groups because it's easy to work with groups than to work with individuals so several groups across all the the the the the two counties elgeo marakwet and vasengishu county um right now the focus is just in elgeo marakwet and vasengishu or you looking forward to expanding it to other counties what does the map really look like uh with kwaid with uh we have several aspects so with uh student mentorship it's across kenya uh with uh tree growing it's across kenya also but with now farming it's so much concentrated on elgeo marakwet and vasengishu county yeah okay so um about tree planting the precedent has been really out there on go green you know green camping and all that and he's been saying there's a number of trees he's he's been looking forward to planting how many have you so far and are you working with any other bodies like maybe the government bodies or other NGOs yes yes yes yes so at the moment uh this year so far we planted uh i think more than 10 000 trees and we're looking forward to plant even more uh we are working we are looking forward to work with schools and organizations and also communities so we want to we want to really try and teach everyone to embrace the green economy our our forests are dying so you find like in elgeo marakwet we have 42 47 catchment areas and uh they are all at stake over dying so the only way we can do that is through kwaad we are championing we are working with the counties we are working with NGOs we are actually calling also for other people to come through even individual best volunteers to come through and to see to it that we really meet the 10 or more percent of the forest cover by 2024 okay then um that brings me to this to this question yeah it's going to sound okay i don't know how it's going to sound but let me just say how do you think tree planting is helping women like um let me just maybe explain the way you've said you see beekeeping gives them a source of income yeah so how does tree planting help them women you are working with okay so you find uh with uh the groups that we've approached we economically they are earning from the tree nasari's they are we've given them seedlings so that they can they can start off and also we are teaching them on how to come up with seedlings for the anasari's so from there they grow the anasari's we buy the trees from them so you find uh when they when they have the anasari's we come by from them they and from them and also the same time they help us uh not not uh they help us with planting you know women uh in the village they're the ones who cut trees for for firewood most women go to the forest to fetch firewood and with that we are killing the forest cover each and every day so with them knowing that if i'm i'm cutting this tree i have to plant more so you see it's a win win they get the firewood they want and we get to to replenish the forest cover yeah so having the knowledge you have across um engineering you know um green camping and all that how do you think you would use the knowledge you have in helping these women now that they have they have a solution in terms of they have trees they are ready selling us seedlings they don't go back to cutting trees for firewood because assuming they buy they sell the trees they sell the seedlings but they don't have enough to cater for maybe buying charcoal or buying greener energy you know uh better means of fuel how would you help them not to be able to go back now and do deforestation in the mentorships that we do each and every time we engage with them we not only teach them on on on planting trees we diversify we even go deeper and teach them on modern ways of farming we teach them on modern ways of tree growing we teach them on modern ways of actually just getting money in the in the recent past women used to do a lot of embroidery and selling them then from getting them they they use the money to maybe buy fuel and all that and we're trying to also teach them on how they can generate money by not cutting trees there is so many ways in every you know it varies from constituency to constituency on their their strengths so you find if you go to this consist constituency they are planting pyrithram you go to this other constituency they are planting maybe viazi so we try and bring them back to older modes that the the older people used to do and actually bridging it to the the more the most current methods also so that they can evade so much on cutting trees and basically just embracing other things more than just the the things that they are used in the village yeah so how how successful has has this project been you know in terms of saying that you're doing it across the country um to um how successful has the project been in terms of now in one county you're doing pyrithram in another one you're doing potatoes in another one you're doing flowers you know assuming so how successful has this been in terms of ensuring that women all these women are covered across all those counties it has been very successful but i can say 70 successful we still have challenges quite a number of challenges that we are encountering but 70 percent of success shows that it is a good thing so we actually even trying to engage women to to to enter into construction with the sense that we need like things like matufari we need like mawe ballast that is so there are women who are able to that uh to that era or sector where they can go do those excavation of it seems manli but there are some women who can do it and if they can do that why not and i actually wanted to mention certain just to divert kidogo from engineering and all that there is this field field of sports that women in the recent past have not been so much active in it so we find like there is bodybuilding sports there is athletic sport we've seen nowadays women venturing so much in the in the coach you see an athlete falls out after doing the after being done with the tracks and all that they go back home but some come back and become coaches and we know that most coaches are men very few coaches are women but in kenya at the moment i would love to applaud a certain lady by the name karolyn kwambai uh as you are aware she is the only female starter in kenya and i believe maybe across east africa at the moment so you find in many countries uh you know the starters those those people who when you are a gun when you are a gun athletics do you mean this kind of bunduki flying in a pigwa so it is always a man i don't think you've ever seen a woman doing that so for the first time in kenya we have one person who does that and is a woman and also in in extensively time extensively we can we've seen bodybuilding sports recently in eldoret we held one of the major bodybuilding sport and we saw a lot of women thriving in it bodybuilding nili aku beba ma machuma so we've seen so many ladies thriving in it and women embracing uh uh in itwa what we call physical fitness and body muscle is quite an awesome thing so before we come to the bodybuilding sport and bodybuilding my practice is telling me kwa kwa trufgat the hysteria starters very good tell us the social media handles uh my social media handles is jebchesher underscore a instagram twitter and uh facebook is honorable jebchesher sharon ya uh why honorable or is it because of the vying for mca i changed my hand my my facebook during campaign to push my mca ship which i became number two by the way i just missed bias ah you became number two yes oh wow you missed it by a margin by a margin yeah so those are my handles so um before we come to an end almost an end of this conversation you've touched something on spots spot and athletics you also do spot and athletics for women i just gym i go to the gym so you don't have like an initiative for women athletics i normally take part in in women who who who are in sports like recently i was very active in was in gishu valuable games which the women really took part and exalts so nicely in them yeah so i just um i'm just a chair and i'm an observer and i push people i can even push you to gain stats what is the position in your opinion what is the position of women in this era of technology politics and you know yeah as much as we've really advanced in technology we've advanced in we've really advanced in the 21st century as much as we are here wherever we are now we are still women are still falling behind i've had people crying for the boy child they're saying the boy child has been left out blah blah blah but to be honest women we are still behind we are so much behind since we still not on the fourth seven we need 70 percent of women on the forefront by the moment we just have 30 percent of women on the limelight we have 30 percent of women the 70 percent of women are still they're still subjects to others they're still they're still shy i can say that or they've not come out yeah so we need there's a lot of advocacy that needs to be done for for that matter and as if you see the government really advocating for women positions that's not like enough we need to do a lot of i guess civil civic education also so that women and people in the society need to understand that there are positions for them it's not that you need to grow up finish school get a job just a well-paying job get married have kids circle continues there is more to life than that so a lot of advocacy needs to be done a lot of mentorship needs to be done yeah what are your um political ambitions now that you're also in politics oh my political ambition since i was a kid i used to tell myself i'll be the president of kenya 2042 but i look forward to to be a great person in this nation as tapata time yeah we will know when we reach there as tapata time but you will see me more in the limelight how old are you i'm sorry to ask no it's okay i'm 24 oh wow yeah okay i'm old no your knowledge is old it's okay the knowledge you i take that as a nice compliment there you have you have you have a vast knowledge wide broad broad knowledge that came as a by the way when you say when you were talking about political ambition so what are your ambitions when it comes to your civil engineering career with my civil civil engineering career i look forward to to really being doing greater projects in kenya i have a company and so far it has just done a few supplies by the moment in 2023 i'm really looking for projects to do so i look forward to seeing myself doing in the coming financial year god willing i hope i'll get a lot of projects to do and with that i can be able to see fun women to come and join me sorry to them putting you on the spot in law okay so the company yeah is it what do you supply tenders government what do you do what do you supply uh i supply anything anything that needs to be supplied all trades yes but now it is a it is a construction it is a building construction road construction slash supplies company whereby i take projects for construction and any construction be it building or roads at the same time i take any supply i can supply you anything that you want i can supply schools whatever they want stationary food building materials name them yeah it is open for all so how do you balance now that you've brought in the company aspects you have a company you're running you have a civil engineering class you're doing because now you're in school pursuing a degree you have women you're teaching bee keeping and others you're teaching you're helping to plant trees like how do you just balance all this like i said before just be you and everything falls into place just be yourself don't i don't really complicate things it comes when it is class time though i i have defad at the moment i took a break if when it is class time it is class time when it is work it is work and since i'm not like employed employed i am a freelancer i have all the time wow yeah that's quite strength of a woman so yeah um off to girl girl chick okay no okay question and we always love asking every woman who comes here what five things can't we see in your handbag my handbag a charger earphones have a charger earphones my my would you call a small perfume that that's three tissues definitely and i always carry a piece of sanitary towel you never know who you meet i think those are the things that are so consistent in my handbag oh okay so are you a hils or a flat person i'm a flat friend why i walk a lot around and being a civil engineer in fact today i have tried i should have come here with my safety boots oh yeah because i enter so many places and being a forest ventured girl so i can't do that those places with gully gully shoes so i'm a flat girl flat shoes girl so um wallet or a phone a phone why my life is my phone that's what that i'm worried to their phone i'm i'm worried to my phone you'll find me online i think i'm on my phone more than i am with people oh mm-hmm so what's the most used up on your phone like what up do you use frequently twitter twitter then not bad yeah twitter not bad twitter not bad yeah okay um you are money person or a night all night all why i think i struggle so much in the morning i'd rather i'd rather translate to the morning than wake up and thank you well please i was telling i was telling i was telling my co-host in the morning that today i was working up at my alarm rang at 4 i was working up at 4 30 um i went to shower at 5 o 5 so between 4 30 at 5 o 5 i was back timing so let me ask you another one um um just a game tom tom's mother has five sons and each son has a sister so how many sisters does tom have tom's mom has a son tom's mother has five sons five sons and each son has a sister so how many sisters does tom have just one did you get a mokia yeah no but the five sons each one of them has a sister they're not five no just one sister why see it's the same uh it's the same god is it my mathematic that is not mathematical or something they are five and there is one girl so each each each boy has a sister so the dominating factor there is a sister i have seen what happened there okay so what is red and white in color as a mixture or so what is red red yakusoma and color red and white in color what is red and white in color like red i read yes so what is red and white in color yeah i don't know abode the last one before we wrap up the entire thing so the last one what has for legs but can't work a bed what has for legs but can't work so it's a bed maybe even a bed okay yeah maybe even a bed okay anyway i can have one leg good points good points okay you got me with that relevant yeah i wish i wish i was i was i was asking val this question we will call her next sorry sorry i get to harasa we're done please give us your parting shot that's your camera okay so just give us your parting shot anything tell a woman out there encourage a woman out there who's just figuring out life and they have watched you this morning and they probably look for a source of inspiration okay so that's your camera to every person out there i normally wake up and say give thanks to good to good health and life that is the ultimum to every woman out there be bold be strong believe in yourself believe in you do you never be sweet be have a be a person of your own stance and above all join us join us in in in teaching each and every woman out there in trying to reach out to every woman out there be a helping hand to each and every woman out there tell them that they can do whatever they want to do irregardless of wherever or who they are they can manage they can rise they can fight for whatever they want in this life it's just a step that you need to take by finding what do you want then from there thrive and find a mentor always have a mentor and always always know what you want thank you so much for making time welcome coming it really means a lot thank you so much insights and nuggets of wisdom you've shared with us thank you so much thank you so much all the best all the best in your endeavors have a good day so that was Sharon the future who is wearing a lot of hats she is a civil engineer she is um she is doing projects in the community she is helping women in farming you know there's just a whole lot she is doing but one thing we are taking home today you can be what you want you can do what you want and you can wear a whole lot of hats in male dominated arenas even in female dominated arenas be bold be courageous and be strong that is the strength of a woman