 Oh, you did not miss it. Jamie at 63 welcome on in. Hello everyone and welcome to the Paragon, the over prime partners that pop as we're calling it, where we're going to be talking about Paragon, the over prime. And this week we're going to be talking about the history, how they got that name and the recent developments, the final beta test and Xena joining me in this adventure is going to be stunt and neurona stunt. Why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself, tell people where they can find you and that you are streaming right now. Both of these fine people are streaming right now. What's up, everybody? I'm Stump V. As Mangus mentioned it earlier, we have one handsome guy and then there's me and Lolita. Yeah, that's right. Welcome to pop our first episode where, like Mr. Mangus said, we'll be going through a lot of stuff, answering your questions and and having some fun. Going on to you. Everybody, as much of you know me, I'm Lolita. I go by neurona and today I'm joining the handsome guy and the buttercup in the middle and this pop episode Paragon over prime partners. I am streaming on my Twitch and if you want to see Mangus live, he's streaming on Mangus, Gigi on YouTube.com. Yeah, for those of you that are only YouTube streamers, you can definitely watch Mangus every week, but me and Lolita will alternate between our streams every week, so Mangus will always be at the same place where you find them. Links to the Twitches should be in the description. I'll pull them up right now. I can't pull them up right now. I can't pull them up right now. It went away. But yeah, we're going to talk about the history of over prime because a lot of people don't seem to know that it started a long time ago. It was probably actually the first one to start using Paragon assets. It went back in 2018. Yep. You guys want to go over what you know and then I'll just correct you when you get things wrong or? Well, from what I know, Mangus is that way in the past when Paragon shut down. Anyway, let's actually talk about why Paragon shut down. We remember if people don't know, if people don't recall, Paragon had started moving its development team and most of its man work into creating Fortnite. And it ended up with a very low man sourced working force. And that's when they announced the shutdown on April 26th, 2018. I'm pretty sure everybody remembers that date. And that month exactly is when a team and I believe it started off with Rocket Mania. They were working on a project called overthrow and then project prime X. If I'm not wrong, correct me if I'm wrong, Mangus. I will correct you. Rocket Mania was working on the project by himself. It was never meant to be a sustainable game. It was just overthrow Paragon. He was just making it pretty much for his resume, which he did indeed end up landing a job by creating overthrow. He was soliciting donations through Reddit. So it wasn't completely his own funding. He was a bit funded by the community. Overthrow, if you've ever played it was very janky. It was a great attempt for one person doing it by himself. It was amazing, but like I said, it was never meant to be a sustainable game. Then later on, you had team Soul Eve created prime X, which they called a prime dunk royale, which I still don't know what that means. I've got some old footage of it. It was like twin blast hiding in a tree, shooting at rampage, rampage is throwing rocks. I don't know, it was freaking crazy. So, but eventually what happened was Soul Eve ended up bringing in Rocket Mania to their team. And once they did that, they made a pretty aggressive announcement, stating that at the time you had predecessor fault, core was still kind of around. They made a very aggressive statement. It said they don't think anybody is doing these Paragon remakes right. So they're gonna do it themselves. They said, we're not gonna do prime X anymore. We're not gonna do this prime dunk royale. We're gonna merge with overthrow. And that's how the name came about, is a portmanteau between overthrow Paragon and prime X, over prime. And the team Soul Eve name, I believe you have that pulled up, the story behind their name. The team Soul Eve name was that they decided, they said, let's put our hearts and souls together and let's get this project done by Christmas Eve from Soul Eve. And if on Christmas Eve, we don't have it all done, we all go our separate ways. That's how it came about to be Team Soul Eve. And I believe after that, Netmarble, because they needed, of course, anybody could just say, hey, I'm just gonna sit here and develop a game, but the manforce, the money, the raising that is needed behind that, that is exactly when Netmarble FNC reached out and collaborated with Team Soul Eve to bring you what is now called Paragon the over prime, previously called over prime. No, we don't get money for being partners. We get some nice videos to create content on well before anything goes. Let me mention anonymous gifter, anonymous gifter coming in with the hot 25 gifted. Thank you very much. Nice. Stunt is frozen. Either that or he's creepily staring at low right now is what it looks like on my screen. He can give us a blank so we know he's a lot of stunts. Are you with us? Come to Slimming, I can give you money. Just come to my house and I'll give you a five spot. So after that, after that, after, no, Netmarble was the big turnaround for them, but before that they had peer to peer, they had over prime, they were putting it out for free to the community, but it was peer to peer. You had to download it, which was a crazy ass process. People will tell you like, oh, back of my day, that's how we did games. Like, well, back of my day, I didn't have a fucking computer. I was smoking weed in high school and chasing girls. I didn't have any computer skills. I went downloading fucking video games. So I had no idea how to do this download process. So I made a video on it and how to do it. I ended up taking several people and walking them through the process and now Stunt's camera is down. So now, Narono, on my screen, your name is now Stunt, but anyway. Oh no, I'm supposed to be the Buttercup. He's a beauty guy. So what, and then what happened there was, there was peer to peer, you had to open up, you had to like, basically host a game on your own PC. So you had to have a pretty high power PC to host a game. A lot of people absolutely hated that. It was free, but like it, it was the kind of free where people just didn't even want it. But then after a while, they did create servers for the game. They created new maps. They had a monolith map, then they made a legacy map, and then they made a three lane, a one lane ARAM map that was 3v3. And that was really fun. That was a ton of fun. And it was around that time that they did their 3v3 ARAM map that they did get picked up by Netmarble. And that's when things completely changed. They completely shut everything down and said, okay, we're seriously going to make this game now. So we're going to take everything else offline and work on that. And that kind of brings us to where we are today. What about the name change? Let's talk about that because I remember the first name was Overprime. Their heroes were called differently. Remember Scott? I don't remember all the names, but then they adopted the original Paragon names. Where did that come from? Let me know if you can tell us a little bit of history. Well, the original reason that they weren't using the Paragon names is because they wanted to do a Netflix graphic novel and they couldn't use, they could use the assets, but they couldn't use those names in something like that and like the graphic novel type thing. So that's why they were using those crazy ass names that they got out of a 1930s baby book. And but after like, obviously they had been in talks with Epic about using Paragon, the actual name and logo. So that's why they were able to change them back and they should be able to still do this Netflix graphic novel. In the future, I would think, using the original Paragon names. Yeah, absolutely. If you guys check on, if you guys are part of the Paragon Overprime Discord server, if you go into the facts, you will actually come across a fact like that, that they are in the works of releasing. They have their own lore, by the way, and they are going to be working very soon on a Netflix series in regards to Paragon, the Overprime heroes with the original Paragon names. I think that's fucking cool. That's pretty awesome, man. I haven't seen any other company do that before. Oh, here we go. We got something back here. There it goes. Can you blink for us, Sons? There you go. Jesus Christ. There he is. Just as I was starting to move the names around and everything. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Can you raise your volume a little bit, Sons? I have a problem here. It looks like you've been ducking under your desk for a minute. I was ducking somewhere. I can't really say. Can you hear me now? Yeah, we can hear you. Nice. We can do a Verizon commercial right after this. So awesome. But yeah, that's basically brings us, basically brings us to now because they got the Paragon name. Now they changed all the names back. What I would like to see is them change the ability names back because some of these ability names are trash. Yeah, such as. Well, what's the most recent? Let's talk about Zena for a little bit here. She's a hot topic. Let's talk about her ability names, for example. What do we have for ability names for Zena? I don't know what her ability names are. I can look it up real quick. Do you guys know off the top of your heads? Not off the top of my head. Off the top of my head. I don't want to. I have a voyage. The Lavoyage. Lavoyage is where she swings her physical damage dealer at the enemy. It's it's a sword. That's the Lavoyage or Lavoyage. See, I'm fine with her names because she's new. She's a completely new character to the Paragon universe. So they could name her abilities whenever they want. It's when they take make it rain and call it howitzer's showtime is what I'm like. Oh, come on now. Oh, shit, that's loud. We're actually comparing. We're actually comparing the names of the abilities now to what we originally know or kind of like seem to be wanting something around that idea. But that's why you say that Zina's names, ability names are now are OK because she's new. But definitely how is your showtime? I believe you have a lot to talk about how is there in his showtime? So she after your famous YouTube video of him coming out of the sewers. Oh, my God. He wouldn't just come out of sewers. Do you guys suppose that these name changes or or the renames are probably they didn't sound good translated in English? Maybe they're probably not their own language. Like I keep going back to howitzer, but our 2000 rocket is how we've always known as Q. And in over prime, it's called super powerful missile. Like super powerful missile. Like, come on, guys. Oh, yeah, yeah. The actual does brings it up in my chat. The thunk being called Pew. You. Pew Pew. Pew Pew wasn't supposed to be the voice line after face. She comes along and she says, Pew Pew. That's that's the sound effect from face. Actually, it is, I believe. Yeah, maybe a big difference. Oh, yeah, that's crazy. Like being called Q. Speaking of Xena, though, have you guys played Xena? Yes. I have laid my hands on her. Not one time. I have to be yo, I'm about to get banned because I need to play and play or something. So I've let her go for now. I was when we were talking, I was mentioning this, that it's very interesting when you have a new hero come to the game and it is not broken. Yeah, she's fairly balanced. Whatever their testing team is doing, they're doing an amazing job. Like to have Gadget and all these other heroes be extremely more powerful than a new hero that comes hot off the press and to be as balanced as she is. Yeah, obviously, if you give Xena to a really good player, they're gonna wipe the floor with you, but that doesn't necessarily mean she's broke. So, I mean, my hats off to those for the team itself, they're doing a great job. She's not broken or broke. I believe if we run a poll here in the community, I'm pretty sure there's a lot of people saying otherwise. There's a lot of people saying, man, I won V9 the whole team with Xena, he is fucking broke. She's too overpowered at this point. Is that what you really think of her? Like, she is a broke-it-all? Like, her man, her la-viage, she hits hard, especially if there's a certain build that people are putting on her exactly like how you would build, I don't know what the exact card's here, but man, I went against Xena, not one time did I go against Xena at any game and she shreds me, no matter who. Like, I can probably do some damage with her with a carry, probably Sparrow or maybe Murdoch, but by man, that woman, that warrior, it's hard. She hits hard with all her abilities and she's got to an escape means too, so. I just think that there are characters that do the same thing as Xena, but they do it better. I think Grux does the same thing as Xena, but he does it better. I think Fing-Miao does the same thing as Xena, but does it way, way better. Like, Fing-Miao has got to, he won't talk about broken, Fing-Miao. A little broken, but yeah, I don't think she's broken anyway. I think she's pretty well balanced. Of course, if you get ahead in any game, you're gonna run rampant, you're gonna run rough shot over the enemy team no matter what character you picked, but especially like a melee bruiser type character, they are very oppressive when they get ahead because it just seems like there's absolutely nothing you could do to escape them. I will say her kit is freaking cool. Like, I dig her kit a lot. Like that charge up, charge thing that she does, like you charge it up and it deals higher damage, it goes longer the longer you hold it. That's super cool. We haven't seen that in a Paragon type game. Are you talking about the fly high where she like swings them, stuns them, and like pulls them in the air? No, the right click. The right click. The right click because she gives her a farther distance. And the interesting thing is you don't have to time it where, like her distance where it ends, you don't have to time that with any of the heroes. She just slices through. And the fact that if you get a kill off of that, and it brings it back almost like a fake mouth alt or used to be like a fake mouth alt is crazy. Yeah, I think that's the leaf through time then that you guys are talking about. I'm reading here through her ability names. I believe that is leaf through type, her R and B still. Yeah. See when you say right click for you, I got to hold my controller and look, okay, I was supposed to right click. Yeah, see that's different. I play out of control. I'm going to address my chat real quick. Got Fred Anderson says, isn't she only OP because three lanes have 80 C's in them? That is so common right now. People are taking 80 C's freaking everywhere. And Eric Kilmonger says, wait until they put Wukong in the game. Yeah. You want to see overpowered? Yeah, absolutely. Well, see, I mean, like I said, when they come up with their own hero and it's pretty balanced, I'm pretty sure they'll figure out a way to. I think that did a great job with her. Kong. And she has a I don't know who they hired for this, but she has her own voice lines, which I did not expect. I figured they would give her like, I did not hear them because I haven't played her. Yeah, she says she's like through time and space. She looks good on you. I just figured. So yeah, now you guys were talking about the trend of taking a carry everywhere. You guys have seen definitely the carry support, the carry, me sitting here all the time thinking, okay, so people are fighting over carry. Maybe those two people want to carry. So they just end up two carries in a lane together and then you have another carry in the off lane. Like, I don't know, what do you guys think about that? Because I remember back in fault, I used to say, hey, we don't want to see a Decker carry or a Muriel carry. And now like you can take any character, any hero and build them in any freaking lane you want. Especially that phase, man. Especially that phase. She's meant to be a caster in mid lane and now you can play her support and she is all cracked. Let me tell you. I think the ADC combination, all the ADCs are pretty powerful. Even if you take all the ADCs and Sparrow being among them the weakest, she is powerful in another lane if you play it right. And just like any other parry zombie or even in Paragon, for some reason the ADC is going into solo lane against a melee hero, it's unfair. I've seen it so many times with Murdoch, it really is unfair. We had a game, I played about an hour ago, maybe two hours ago. They had a Sparrow off lane. Wraith as the support, Twin Blast as the ADC and Gadget mid lane. It was so fucking impressive. We had zero chance. I was happy I had five kills at the end of that game. That is so oppressive right now. They, I don't know what they need to do. I don't know if they just need to directly nerf ADC's early game damage. It's been a problem in all these games. It was a problem in fault for a while. ADC early game damage was just through the roof. It was definitely a problem in predecessor of their very first beta test. ADC's like four shots early game and you're dead. And so like, I don't know what is up with these companies and not knowing how to correctly balance ADCs. Maybe ADC's is just harder to balance than I think they are. I think one thing that could help though, especially with the off lane ADC meta is if they made minions hit a little bit harder so that when they poke you, the return damage they get from angry minions actually saps their health a little bit. Angry minions. Angry minions. I'm sorry. That's over the same kind of aggro. Angry. Angry Tears. I think there are a lot of effective solo laners between Feng Mao and Kuang. Like, Sevrog is a great player. I mean, Sevrog is a great hero. But if you don't know how to play Sevrog, solo lane is definitely not for you. I've seen some great Sevrog players. And I think when it comes down to ADCs going into solo lane, your only counter now possibly is Xena if you can play fair or more safe. And Kuang or Feng Mao, because of that shield ability. Yeah. The thing too is it used to be like, the reason to take like a tanky character in the off lane, that's the reason most people want to take a tanky character in off lane is because it gives you a tank on your team and that's a good place to put them. And sort of the, it was always a hard early game if you were up against a ranged as a bruiser hero. But it seems like in over prime, they get so far ahead that there's no coming back. Usually in a MOBA, if you're taking a hit like that, if you're putting, if the enemy team is putting a ranged character, a ranged squishy in the off lane, they're gonna pay for it late game because they have no tank. In over prime, like that late game gets there pretty early and like all the ADCs are at full build and they're just shredding any tank that tries to come at them. It's a problem. It's something that they definitely need to look at. From, you know, taken from back from the approaches that, you know, for example, fault head went through. I mean, I personally have no problem taking a, for example, a decker or even a gadget, you know, gadget shreds right now. If I take her against anybody, any tank, any crux, any set rock, any fangmau, that is very nice, I believe. And I don't know, people just in general, people in over prime seem to be wanting to take every single hero, build him wherever and however. And if you look in the Paragon over prime net marble site, you will see that they have categorized every single hero into like groups. You have your warriors, you have your supports, you have your tanks, you have your damage dealers, you know, but obviously we always see that cross pick, that cross pick where like I said, you could take your phase, she's supposed to be a mid laner. You know, if she's supposed to be a caster, you take her into the support lane and man, she does a lot of damage. Like I play a lot of phase and I can 1v1 a kite anytime. The jungler I can 1v1, I can 1v1 a sparrow. All you need to do is link to that, you know, enemy and that flash, that burn, that lance, it's just fucking nuts. So I'm not sure what they want to do after, you know, this brief break that they're gonna take and then to relaunch. And again, we're gonna get to that in a little bit here. Maybe, I don't know, tweak some characters, balance some characters. We don't know that yet, but we do wish that from them for sure. Yeah, I mean, I think in my opinion, I enjoy phase being a mage. I do enjoy phase being a mage over a support. I have a lot more fun playing her in mid, to be honest with you. She is very fun. Yeah, but I do remember. I'm getting bored. I mean, yeah, yeah, but how many times, how many times would you want to link to your teammate to save him and yank him out? And again, we slower yank here because it's been used a lot often to yank your teammate out of a fight. I mean, I think that just adds to the ADC problem. If you add phase to be able to link to the teammates and get out, you're just adding to that because these ADCs are really powerful in this game. So phase being a mage in mid, I think it's a good counter for a lot of players. Faze a little too strong right now though. She is. She is, her blind man. She shreds half of that health, no matter where that health bar is going. In my opinion, I think it's gadget and then phase for mid. I mean, I don't know if you guys agree, but first gadget and then phase all the way it comes down to how powerful they are. I'm really excited to see that the tournament starts tomorrow and then the EU tournament is tomorrow and then the NA tournament is Sunday. I'm really excited to see what people take because gadget's going to be banned out. If they leave Murdoch up, that's a fucking mistake. Why do we know that gadget's going to be banned out? What's that, decided? If they're commenting when you go ahead and do that. Yeah, it's not decided. It's not like in the rules that gadget can't be played. It's just that gadget is such an oppressive mid laner and still so good in team fights that she almost always gets banned. Nobody wants the risk. Like everybody wants to have gadget on their team, but nobody wants to risk the enemy team getting her. So I think we're going to see a lot of gadget bans. I want to see how people fare with the other mid laners. Like I want to see in this tournament, if they've just only been grinding gadget because she's the best and then they end up without a pick or have they been spreading the love and learning other heroes that they can play? I've seen quite a few Howie picks where even if you go into a quick match or a casual match, I see a lot of Howie's being picked over a phase in mid, which is very interesting to me. Or even a gadget. I mean, absolutely take a phase against a Howie. Even when you go into competitive playing and you play against players who understand the game, gadget is the first to get banned. But when you're going into a casual play, usually picks are Howie, Gideon. Yeah, people just want to have fun with their old Paragon papers, yeah. Yeah, I haven't met a gadget player yet. Maybe once or twice, if anything. Well, I don't play her just because she is so dastardly OP and I don't want to I want to have fun playing the game, not just wreck people by hitting Q every fucking four seconds. And I think Ray is an amazing hero in this game, too. His kid, but he doesn't get as bad as much banned as Murdoch or Revenant do, for some reason. I think Revenant should get a ban if any of the ADCs. Oh, what are you, Murdoch? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? Because of my personal experience against any Revenant, I'm always being shredded. Oh, really? It's usually Murdoch, yeah. Not like I'm not saying in any casual game where you run into like newer player who's trying out Revenant maybe for the first time in their life. I'm talking about an actual Revenant who knows how to play Revenant. Man, that that guy could be deadly. His kid is pretty impressive. I do want to say, though, Ray is a hero that I will always hate. I hate it more than I want to get stunned by a Decker across my face because that ability Rewind is just fucking nuts. You know, I can't. I can't with Ray. Yeah, no, the fact that you can go into a portal and still get Rewinded by Ray. Yeah, that's just it's OP. It's crazy. I've had it happen once to me. I've had it happen there in our game. I was saying, imagine going through a portal thinking you're all done and that and that Ray we won. Oh, yeah. You're right back. I didn't even know that was a thing until yesterday. That and Kalari can actually dash through a portal and still get you. Yeah, she starts her dash. Invisibility, just being an all. Do you think out of all the kids, it's probably like like the whatever kid, like whatever part or. No, that's not a long as time ago. I think Ray's I think surprise, surprise, his ultimate should be a basic ability. And I think Rewind should be his ultimate ability. I will say today, I played with Dapper nice and I played the ADC for the first time in forever. And he was really good with his phase pulls, pulling people back. I know that's not a Ray three wine, but it's kind of the same thing. And it confused the shadow of me constantly. I would think I was about to get a kill and then you would pull them up like, oh, fuck, where did they go? It's the same way with Ray. That's the thing with Ray, too, is like if you have a bad rate, that they're going to be saving people more than killing people. But if a good break like on the enemy team will frustrate the dog shit out of you, he's a frustrating hero. But yeah, I definitely agree that. Rewind should be his ultimate. And being able to go stealth for a little bit should just be a basic ability, I think. Rewind as an ultimate. Wasn't an ultimate supposed to be a damage dealing ability rather than just an ability? It doesn't have to be. But it's still just an ability right now, too. Your whole team goes are actually people around you or your teammates around you going visible and that's it. But that's pretty powerful. You just become a Kalari. That's about it. You become a Kalari. Yeah, that's true. I mean, if we compare it to phase, her ultimate isn't to pull you, even though I've seen players that abuse that a lot. Like, I know with phase first, but I know I'm drifting from the subject, but with phase and just because I played her a lot in Paragon of the Overprime, you get to pull the enemy so many times that it really gets frustrating. Even though hooking to the enemy will cause more damage, I believe linking them back and pulling them is more frustrating here. And I don't know, would you guys say, like, you'd want phase pull to be the ultimate, for example, rather than her actual alt that she has right now? No, because to be effective, it has to be done more often, I think. That's to be done more often. I think phases, the ultimate is pretty balanced where if you just pop the alt, you get attack speed and damage, like a lower damage. But you have to link somebody to get the damage, which also, it makes it great because if you detach from the link, that damages leaves. So it gives people a chance to run off or run away or do all that other stuff. So I think if phase is pretty well balanced in the sense that you don't need to add any more things to her alt. But you did say phase is pretty well balanced. I think she's struck. No, no, I mean alt-wise. Yeah, alt-wise. Alt-wise, yeah. If you don't do your thing, if you add more stuff like another pool or someone else to that alt, it's perfect. You get to pick. You either, you get a health regen or you damage a player where you're close enough where you can get wrecked too, if you're in a team fight. A lot of people in my chat are requesting to bring our old kit back and just make her a sheer trade-up support. I don't know, I like her as a mid laner, but... I like her as a mid laner, yeah, that's okay. Again, it just comes down to preference. If they like playing support and they enjoyed her as a support, I mean, I would agree with them. I think I got bored of playing her as a support, which I'm enjoying that she's a mid laner now. She's a mage. A lot of people said that phase was one of the weaker supporters back. And again, we say back and fault just because it was the most recent mobile that we all shared together. People, for example, would rather go with steel. And again, let's go above that topic of steel. I don't see a lot of steels. And I remember you mentioned that to me, Mangoes, who were playing casually the other day, and you were like, why don't you pick steel? His shield, his kid, is this pretty insane? I said no, I think he's very weak right now. But his shield actually serves a purpose. You kept putting a description that it shields you from projectiles, and yet in other games, everything went through. This shield actually prevents you from everything. His steel is incredibly strong right now. I've been seeing him, as I've been watching people do competitive play, steel is being picked more and more as people have come to realize just how freaking strong steel is. Not only do you get a support in the early game, once he actually gets a little bit of gold, you have a tank for the late game. That's just the best of both worlds. And nobody, nobody will watch a steel run up to them and then huddle up in a group and charge at your team. Hell no, they see a steel coming down, laying, everybody fucking scatters. Like turning the lights on, the cockroach is running everywhere. Fucking steel is that light. The enemy team's a cockroach, they scatter, because they don't want that, they don't want that dunk. They don't want that dunk on top of their heads. And here's another question for chat too. How do they feel when they play these heroes? Like when you play Chimera and you're swinging away, you feel the heaviness of his swings. When you play steel, you feel the heaviness of his attacks. Like, it's interesting how you can feel that through the way the game is developed, but I do like that a lot. When I play Chimera, you know he's a tank, you feel it in-game. Sound effects combined with the hit-stop animations really do lend a lot of visceral weight to a lot of the melee attacks for real. It's nice. Same for Rampage, I believe, yeah. I only got to play Rampage and that's how I felt. Holding that rocks, tossing across to an enemy team. That is so satisfying. That is so satisfying. But what is one character that you guys played so far and have indulged, enjoyed and yet to come back and pick him again? Enjoyed once and then never came back to him? No, and came back to pick him again. And you just were like, oh man, I'm enjoying this character so much I want to pick him every game. That's a toss-up for me. Stunt, what do you got? It's between Rampage, Xena, and Fengmiao. Oh man, that's a good try. Solo lane, nine out of 10 times I might pick Feng if I can't get Xena now. But before Xena, it was Fengmiao and Rampage for jungle. Right on. The Faye for me. I absolutely love the Faye in old school Paragon. I freaking loved her in predecessor and I freaking love her in over prime. The Faye is just my girl. I don't know what it is about that hero, but for some reason I'm on the Faye. I'm fucking laying it down. Oh man, I thought you were laying it down for Gadget before just because they stripped her down and gave her a bra for 10. Yo, I like that titties out Gadget. Don't get me wrong. That's just a cherry on top, Debs. All right, you heard that, Debs. Give that man a nice skin for Faye. Yeah, I ain't that superficial that I'd pass on the Faye just for some titties. So now again, you guys have that tourney coming up for tomorrow, right? And you're going to be cast in that tourney? Yeah, it's a two-day tourney, right? You never said you're a hero, well? Yeah, see, she just changed the subject. She didn't like the answers, Wiki. My hero? Man, how many times have I went against you guys? Have you guys not been last by my face before? I was going to say, I figured it was Faye's, but you never stayed it up front. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, everybody knows. I run Faye's a lot, guys. I believe everybody should run her. You know, go in 1v1 pits and play Faye's. And you don't like Faye's phrase, right? It's an anime version of her. Absolutely not. She is deadly. She is deadly. I'd rather take her as is being a caster with her kit and how crack she is on a support role rather than play her on a mid lane role. I'm not sure. I really like to poke that enemy hero, the enemy carry man. I just like to poke the enemy carry to where they actually have to bring in Rampage to be a support and I would still take on that Rampage. I'm telling you, Faye's is cracked right now and I really hope if the devs hear me now, do not play with her kit. Keep her as is. She's pretty cracked on support right now, but I really like her. Another topic of the week. Let's talk about something hot that just happened this week. Let's talk about the little event that we had called Paragot, a partner team versus a dev team. What do you think about that stuff? I think that was pretty hyped. I think that was pretty hyped. So the partner team consisted of me, Mangus, Lolita, or Norona, Ego, and you can go watch the full gameplay on all of their YouTube channels, including Windus, who was obviously spectating the game and he has some really good footage. And we didn't plan on playing the devs just to beat him or look good or anything like that. Obviously, we wanted to win, we wanted it. But this was another way of showing the community that we're always asking questions about how the devs react to the community and how important is the community to the devs, where these guys in the middle of everything, in the middle of a stress test, in the middle of a global test, put away everything to come out here and play two games with us, which was amazing. And the communication, everything from John Snow to Bumblebee was extremely, extremely respectful, friendly, just overall, like, it proves how these guys are towards their community, how much they care for their community. Oh yeah, absolutely. When I contacted Bumblebee and John Snow. Obviously, you're playing the top player in the world. What did you think? We lost it. We lost it, though. Guys, we lost it 40 minutes on a second. Let's forget about the first thing. Lasting 40 minutes is a good enough win for me. Shit. Imagine beating the devs in a game that they created. Ouch. Oh man, that would have been something lit. I wanted to. I mean, end of the second round, guys, I was saying, let's at least, we had lost our first, right? We got annihilated, let me be honest. Oh god, yeah. On the next one, I was like, guys, it's 30 minutes past. Let's try to keep these devs in the game as long as possible. Let's farm up, gain up the levels, right? Catch up, and let's keep them on their knees the whole time to where maybe they'll just get bored and got things to do and just, you know, freaking surrender. But that did not happen. We lost it 40 minutes, but man, it was so enjoyable to go against the team of developers who've created the game, who know the game, who know the ins and outs. And I think they were just trolling us at one point. We got them, they're just a piece of cake. They invaded us, their team, the way their team moved in altogether, the synchrony, their warding was amazing. And again, I say next time after I played the devs team, guys, man, warding is so important. And I think it's something that is very underestimated. I don't think I've went in one overprime game so far since the launch of this test. And I've realized that people actually are warding correctly. You have your support, you know, she picks up here, she picks up one ward at the beginning of the game and then it just goes. And then they're fighting the whole time. I don't have the spot to carry a ward. Orders are so important. I remember in that team against the developers where we could not even move in the jungle if they wanted to take the spirit, if they wanted to take all prime. The moment we went in to try to go around, they knew exactly where to place the ward and we just caught caught. And we had to turn around and not be able to, you know, because obviously they were way ahead of us, but their gameplay showed us a lot on how, you know, this game could be really competitive as opposed to a lot of people that I hear oftenly say, man, this game is too easy because I can close my eyes and hit my CCs and I don't think this is competitive enough for me. I believe this game is very competitive. I played a competitive match and I'm pretty sure for you guys who have been grinding competitive and ranked, this game could be very competitive. It's just, you know, the matchmaking system, when it hits on point, that's when you're gonna start to see, you know, people of your level in the rank and that's where competitiveness starts. I mean, let's not forget how professional mangoes is. He was playing ring around the rosy. How about bubble bee? With the decker? I didn't even realize that was bubble bee until afterwards. I sent him that video. A lot of people in the chat, I got some good suggestions here. A ward slot like we had in Fault, that would be nice to have, especially with all the bushes. I would also like to see an item or a magic power item, a physical power item, armor item that has a ward attached to it, an active ward, so that everybody can pick up a ward that they can keep in their kit for much longer because the warding is so goddamn important and overprime specifically, which is why I think Wraith is so good in the game because he has a ward on one of his abilities. And another thing that I know a lot of our community members have told me on the side too is having the ability to put quick cast on each hero in the settings. Whereas when you put quick cast once, every hero ends up getting it. If they can separate that where we can choose which hero we have quick cast for and which we won't, it would be perfect. Yeah, that'd be great because I have to change every fucking game. Yeah, yeah. And then I have another community member asking, saying I understand that they support their community, but how can they disrespect their original so bad? Well, again, here's one of those subjects where yes, we all come from one common game that we enjoyed back in the day, Paragon. But at the same time, we do need to, we need to realize that games that, you know what I mean? You are gonna get changes from this game. Again, everybody comments on overprime changing the name to Paragon. Well, it's a move they made for their search engines and for their crowd. They did mention in their own videos, if you go back and watch the live feed that no way, shape or form, are they claiming that they're gonna be the original Paragon? They know that their game is gonna be different. They know that they're gonna have their own abilities. So it's kind of hard to answer that question when people always ask for like the original, we fell in love with, but I mean, it is what it is. We can't, you can't really... We can't expect to have the exact same thing that we exact same hero kits that we had in Paragon. We can't expect to get what, you know, people, you know, that played fault. There was a big community that player based on fault that we cannot expect to see exactly everything in here. And to be honest, personally, I'm enjoying the changes. Yes, there are certain, you know, some few tweaks that they need to do and some balancing that they need to do other than that. I am enjoying taking my favorite character in a different lane. I like Fasement as well as I like her support. And I think she's playable in both. Yeah, Fred Anderson in my chat brings up a good point though. They do use like Paragon is back as like their tagline, like they really do use that. And it's definitely 100% just for marketing. And then, yeah, but yeah, that's a good point, man. Maybe they shouldn't be saying that. It's again, it comes down to what different people say it might be marketing. It might be clickbait. It might be because search engines when people are looking for a MOBA, they go to Paragon first and they search it. But, I mean. I don't know. My thing with games is like the worst score that a game can get is a seven. A seven might seem good, but a seven is a game that didn't piss anybody off but didn't make anybody happy. And it's a game that's gonna be forgotten quickly. If you make a game that some people are given a 10 and other people are given a zero, if you're pissing people off with your game, that's a good thing. As long as you're making other people extremely happy. I think that's what, that's what their vision is. They have their own vision for the game and they've stuck with it. They've made changes with community feedback, but they've still kept the game a very fast paced version of Paragon. They call it a third person shooter plus a MOBA. Like they don't just call it a straight up MOBA like Paragon did. I think that's what they need to do. You gotta, you can't please everybody. So why try? Piss a whole bunch of people off but make a whole bunch of other people really happy with your game. Yeah. And as we see in this testing session, this testing period has been very, very successful. I think we hit a high of 32,000 players at one point during the testing period, which only says this was an actual success. I've seen a lot of people, you know, for lack of better terms, a bitch about why is this game Paragon? I come here expecting to see Paragon as is. However, it's not, yet this is the same group of people who are coming in and joined their game and they're having a blast. I think guys just give this game a try, play it, give it some time, you will get used to it. You will get definitely used to it. I've seen a lot of people, you know, nah, I'm not gonna play over Prime, I hate it. It looks nothing like Paragon. It's more for brawler, we're fighting the whole time. You know, this, this and that, we're always used to two towers and now there's only one yet to come later on and say, man, it's growing on me. I just, I'm so hooked. You know, I have people outside of the, you know, Fault or, you know, Paragon fans that watch YouTube videos or example, they comment that they're like, man, this game is just so amazing. I want to give it a try. You know, think of that. Think of somebody who hasn't played the original Paragon or somebody who hasn't played Fault for a time because definitely they were the only two games out and that's why I mentioned them and come to the game and play it with a fresh eye. What would you say about this game? This is how you are able to judge it fairly. I love when somebody leaves a comment on one of my videos where they hate OverPrime but they tried it and they have an actual legitimate, legitimate explanation and criticism for why they disliked OverPrime. I love that. I'm perfectly okay with that. That's feedback that I can take and give to the devs and let them know. What I hate is I saw a comment today on a video that said something about, I don't like it because they're not using the original Paragon names. Like, motherfucker, how out of the loop are you? Like, do a search for OverPrime. You'll find their fucking website and see all the original, like people are so out of the loop because they just, they trust what they hear from everybody else. Oh, it's just a brawler. Oh, it's so fast paced. Oh, it's this. Oh, it's that. Oh, you get all your abilities unlocked at first. That's not even true anymore, dude. Like, fucking try the game for yourself. If you don't like it, fine. Let me know why you didn't like it, but try the goddamn game. Don't just listen to what everybody else is telling you. I had somebody argue with me because they had just finished the training in the beginning when you first opened it, not even gotten into a game. Oh, I don't like the game. No, bro. That's a troll. Yeah, that's a troll. Okay, I mean, that's your opinion. I respect it, but it doesn't work like that. I mean, to be honest, I'm one of the people that said I didn't play the first close beta, by the way, guys. I did not lay hands on the close beta. I opened that game. I think I saw it in Discord. One of my friends was streaming it to me and I was like, man, this looks nothing like Paragon. Yet again, it doesn't like any close default. Nah, I'm not gonna even give it a try. Why? I want their original names back. I don't want to have all my abilities unlocked and I need another tower. I complained so much. I was like, nah, there's no way I'm playing this game. And here's another misunderstanding I get from a lot of people who are complaining about the portals. Look, yeah, Paragon Over Prime has portals. The original Paragon had the ramp that went from when you jumped over mid lane from one jungle to the other, right? And people automatically assume when you go through these portals, your whole team are gonna go through the portals at the same time. It's a one-time use. There is a cooldown fray. So I'm not that against it. You know what I mean? It's not, it doesn't bother me that this game implemented portals into the game. I've heard comments without anybody playing the game saying that, oh, the whole team ganks and this and that. And I go, no, they don't. If you play the game, you'll realize one person goes through and then there is a certain cooldown to it before the next person can get through. Yeah, I think the addition of the portal was a good idea. When I heard about it before we tested it now in this period, I was like, damn, I'm gonna have a problem with that. Why? I think people were gonna abuse it. I didn't know there was gonna be a certain cooldown. And I think, you know, everybody's just gonna keep trying to teleport on cooldown and abuse it and be in that lane the whole time. I don't think people do abuse it. They do use it to escape when they have to. Yeah. They use it when they wanna go gank. I think the addition of the teleport was a great idea. You know, and again, it's just by getting used to liking the game. If you go into any game, not fault, not Paragon, not any other game, with a mentality, this is what I'm expecting. You won't be able to appreciate the game or enjoy it. Go in with a fresh mind, guys. Try it, enjoy it. Go in with friends, for example, and then see from a different eye. And I'm pretty sure a lot of you are gonna get hooked. I mean, what are we saying? I'm pretty sure we all know that there's a big player base for this game already and it has yet to grow. And this is only a testing period that we're doing here. And then one thing I wanted to touch on tonight because I don't feel it's discussed enough and it is definitely one of the highlights personally for me of OverPrime is the sound design. It is so important that you have your sound on in OverPrime because you can hear footsteps. You could tell who it is by their footsteps. You could tell like you can hear people attacking the jungle and then you look on your minimap. That's not your jungler, so you know what their jungler is. They're in your jungle right now. I think they did an incredible job with the sound design, especially compared to their last beta test. The last beta test that was a bad, this time it is greatly improved. Believe so too. And yes, sir, go ahead. No, no, I'm saying that's absolutely it. Just the first time I heard the footsteps, I thought, I initially thought it was your own teammates. I thought you hear the footsteps of your own teammates is another way of being aware of the sound. When that grucks came out of that jungle and I saw the orange bar, I'm like, oh shit, it's not my teammate. Anybody sounds like you can, you gotta look at the map, bro. You gotta look at the map, bro. It's a detail that you're not expecting, but you see. I mean, you do hear your teammates footsteps not as loud as your enemy. If I'm escaping, I can literally tell, and I'm pretty sure you guys have tried this too, I can literally tell that I'm still being chased. And again, tweak your sound settings, guys. I don't know, like for me, the announcer voice, I just don't like him. I don't like his voice when he calls it, an ally has slayed an enemy. That voice line, I hate it. I don't want to listen to it. I lower it down all the way. I just keep them up briefly when he's trying to say our tower is getting hit or prime is up or prime is being taken. Other than that, I have the effects on high. I like to listen to the birds in the jungle. So I have that sound effect on as well. Ben, definitely, definitely character voice lines are to me very amazing. I was saying something the other day. I was playing Decker and my stun was on cooldown. And Decker was able to tell me because usually if you're looking at your screen time to stun, right? And you just, like it makes that sound effect. Like you don't have it. Decker or any hero will actually tell you, oh, it's not ready yet. Like they will communicate and that's actually nice voice line communications. So again, guys, like tweak your settings, use them. Just like Saber said, footsteps are very, very important. Talk about tweaking your settings if you guys have any problem with controller support, go to low, go to low. Oh my God. She will help you get those controllers set up. The announcer, though. Yeah, they need to work on that. That motherfucker gets so behind in his announcements because you have these crazy fucking team fights. It's like, bam, bam, all the shit's going off. And then like I'm back at the core fucking buying items. It's like, Quadra kills. Like motherfucker, that happened two minutes ago. Shut the fuck up. Yeah, you get the kill. Just killed an ally. No, I didn't. I just got the kill 30 seconds later. Ally has slayed an enemy. OK, minimum 10 says the portal has spawned on the battlefield. He takes a break, huh? Have you guys gone to Pentakill yet? No, yeah, I came real excited. I came real close. Who stole it? Just say their name. Who stole it? Nobody stole it. They got away. You got away from a fey jelly. Got a pit to kill, but the announcer, I guess, didn't count it. That kind of sucked. I counted it in the next game. I think what happened was he killed Murdoch. And by the time he was done killing the other the other ones, Murdoch respond came back in. He killed Murdoch again. I think that's why I didn't count. OK, I counted it in my heart. That's that's another thing. I think if they want to nail the 20 to 30 minute mark for this game, they need to raise those death counters. I've noticed the counter goes higher after a certain certain certain time frame after when you hit 35, 40 minutes is when those death timers start going to a minute, a minute and a half. Well, it depends on your level. Your death. Yeah, I think that for your death and stuff. You need to make it longer because, again, I'm pretty sure both chats have mentioned this, you get into a prime fight, you eliminate the team. You're still fighting prime and they still come back and try to try to take it from you. Let's prevalent now because they nerfed the health and the armor of the prime guardian. But yes, that was a problem at the first. It's still a bit of a problem. Like if you're going for an early prime take, like if you get a team kill at 20 minutes and they try to rotate the prime, they'll be up and trying to steal your prime by the time get that fucker down. Yeah. Paying the ass. It's a new game. We all know they're going to go through hurdles or they're going to go through. They're obviously going to go through bugs, but the fact that these guys pay attention to all of that and they keep us up to date when they fix all of that, like, for example, the Xena and the Countess alt when they all together at the same time, I guess one of the players ends up going through the map and starts falling, falling through the map. Yeah. They're on top of that. They're fixing it. These guys are paying attention to all of that. They're on top of it, but there were more bugs in this final beta test than I had anticipated 100 percent. I'm a I'm a little disappointed with solely with this final beta test because of all the goddamn bugs in the game right now. I did not expect that. And this is their final beta test. Hopefully, hopefully they'll have this shit fixed by early access on December 8th, but. Oh, a lot of bugs in the game. Like that Aurora, when your teammate escapes from using the ice, standing in the middle of that ice, getting stuck in that ice. Yeah. Well, next to a spirit, the spirit, the prize spirit. I haven't had that happen. It's it's kicking you around and there's nothing you can do about it. It sucks. Oh, man. I agree with you guys. And if you guys didn't pay attention for those of you guys who are in the Paragon Discord, Paragon Overcrime Discord server, there is a channel talking about bugs. There is a specific one where you can submit a bug's report. And then another one telling you, confirming, you know, we, hey, we are dealing with this bug today and we are going to fix it. And if you guys are not in the Discord server, if you head over to their website, they actually have announcements and events. Like if you go right now, you will see that they are aware and they have announced it as an update that Xena. And there's a bug involving Xena, Xena's ability or her alt with another hero's ability or alt. So they are aware of that, you know, and again, let's not forget, this game is not out yet. This session, this period is a testing. It's called a final test for this reason because they did all that work, you know, since the close beta, they're releasing the game out. Hey, give this a try, community, give it a try, submit your bugs to us. Then they're going to go back, work on those bugs, work on whatever feedback we as a whole community give them yet again to release it. And again, for those of you who don't know, I would like to include that Paragon the Over Prime is going on a free early access on December 8th. Again, not your calendar is free early access to November 8th. So they're not going to actually leave us for a long time, you know, basically two, two weeks from now, two, three weeks from now. Right. Yeah, yeah, just going to be just going to be a few weeks. Yeah, so hopefully within that time period, guys, keep playing the game. We have until Monday, keep playing the game, enjoy it. Again, expect if you want something, if there's a bug going on and you're just like, no, I'm not going to play the trash asking, let's just throw it out. I don't want to play. It's too bugged for me. It'll take you a minute just to go into, you know, a server, their server channel and report that bug, you know, it's better off communicating like that to a company that actually listens than to just toss the game on the side and trash the game. I mean, I don't want to try. I got stuck under the map because so and so. So definitely they are aware and they will work on a fix to it for next time. Yeah, Fred Anderson in my chat says, do you think they're rushing because of competition? I think that Soul Leave and Omega are both rushing a little bit right now to compete with each other because you got predecessor releasing what appears to be of an unfinished game in early into early access from their announcement. And then you got overprime with their final beta test has so many bugs. I think the overprime rush was to get it out before G-Star so that they could have it as part of their announcements at G-Star was their thing. And I don't think to answer a question. I don't think on overprimes side, it was necessarily a rush. You were the one that caught it, mangoes, when they were doing their live overprime corner that where they had the calendar of the final test. And when the trailer came out for the final global test, the trailer had a secret date and that date said 1208. So initially, they had already preplanned releasing December 8th, unless that shit really hit the fan. And in my opinion, predecessor ended up rushing to make it out there before them. That's what it looks like because these guys already had the date. It was already it was already stamped in their and their their trailers. Yeah, they already had their date, but I think this final beta test just has too many bugs for it not to have been rushed just a little bit to get it out ahead of G-Star. I think that was their goal was to get a final beta test either early access or a beta test out in time for G-Star. And that was their main goal, I believe. That's my theory. That's my tinfoil hat theory right there. We need a new line from you. We need a new line from you, Mango Star, that you speak. All right, man, that how it's coming out of the prisoner sewers has just rung in my ear. You made my day, man. You just made my day with that comment. Also, since we're talking about overprime and and and their gameplay and everything, would you enlighten us about you and Jalee hosting the the tournament? I believe you said you were doing the semifinals and the finals and what they can we watch you commentate on these on these players? What's up? I'm not I'm not doing that. I'm not I'm not casting that tournament. No, tomorrow, EU starting at 9 a.m. EST is going to be the EU tournament. We're still kind of working out the details. I can't cast every single game or my voice will. Just be gone. So I think we're going to cast one game of the quarter quarters, one game of the semis and then we'll cast the finals, which will be a best think two out of three or maybe three out of five. Best three out of five. That's what it is. But yeah, that's going to be get through gaming. You can check out their discord. I usually have it linked somewhere. But you're you can look up their website, get through gaming. They're going to have it. And then the N.A. tournament starts at 3 p.m. on Sunday and yeah, we'll do the same thing. Jelly knees and I will be casting that it will not be live on my channel. It will be on jelly knees channel. I will be doing the link for that. So if you do want to check that out live, you can head over to jelly. Twitch.tv forward slash jelly knees. Follow jelly and you can watch the the tournament. I think jelly is going to probably be operating the camera this time. We kind of we messed up last time we cast one of these tournaments and we tried to both independently operate cameras and it just didn't work out. But this time I think we got it nailed down. Should be a good time. There's still plenty of time to sign up. No, there's not. There's not plenty of time to sign up. You want to sign up? You fucking get your shit together and go sign up right now. And I thought there wasn't more anymore time there. Time said for you to sign up with your team by the 16th. But on the 15th or 14th, they only had two spots left. That might have already been filled. Yeah. So I think it's it's that they got full and not that the time out sign up time is over. It'd be a good time for sure. It'd be a good time. It's it's going to be interesting. The last close beta was very interesting now. The last time it was plagued by that fucking or prime bullshit strat that I also abuse the shit out of. But this term, it should be a lot more interesting. I would think since I don't think there's really any cheese strats other than loading three 80 C's into the game on your side, which will be. That's not going to happen because of bands. So yeah. They have to play. Is there a rule in the tourney where they have to actually play true roles? Like you have to have an actual support. An actual. No, there's no rules for that. No rules for that. And where can people watch that journey tomorrow? Which dot TV forward slash jelly knees. There you go, guys, forward slash jelly knees. Enjoy it. It's going to be so anything you guys want to add up here or are we concluding? No, we just want to think think the the community members for coming out because of my movie careers and everything like that. I only have Fridays that I'm able to do this. So so far we're going to we're going to keep this show on Fridays. Just pay attention to Twitter and YouTube. Mangus is going to go live every week on his YouTube. Me and Lolita, like we said earlier, will will jump twitches one week will be me, one week will be her. And we'll keep everybody posted for next Wednesday because next Friday is Thanksgiving. And after eating turkey, we all get lazy and want to sleep. At least you get lazy after anything. I'm busy with my Nutella. Oh, let's not start that one. No, don't start that one. We're not talking about different figures in Nutella. I'll have to run a poll for that. But anyways, guys, we are here to bring you and pop. Our intention is to bring you guys the latest news from very on the overprime as very on the overprime partners. We are going to be we can be your voice as well. You guys can come in here, come to, you know, put down your comments. What do you think of this? What do you think of that? What do you guys want? What do you guys expect? You know, let's discuss it. Let's talk about it, you know, and I hope to see you guys and more games. And I hope to see you guys again when the game launches in early access free through Seaman Epic stores. And other than that, thank you, soft to you. I just thanks for coming out. Thanks for watching this live. Thanks for watching. This is the VOD. If you're watching as the body gets uploaded later, if you'll see, I have a little space on the side now. I'm going to be putting chat there pretty soon. As soon as I get that, I'll figure it out. A lot of people are requesting next. What? Where is that? She just went right. They see it. They see it on my screen. If you're watching me, I said, I said, I said, I said, Zina's titties, that's about where the chat's going to go. Over cities. I think you better. I'll put a gadget over there. Well, I don't want to cover them up. Red partners to I don't know. We'll see. We'll see if we'll see how that goes. But yeah, chat has been cracking me the fuck up all night. Thank you for that. Thank you, everybody, for being here. And thanks for sticking it out to the end stunt. You got anything you want to say? No, I love this community. They're all awesome. And we we definitely love your feedbacks. There's no other way we can. We can go and talk to each one of you one by one. So like Narona said, please give us your feedbacks. We'll we'll pass it to the devs as much as we can. We will try to implement a lot of the changes you guys are looking for. There's there's obviously stuff that we're playing and we're we're giving them ideas. So let's let's let's see how this goes. And like we mentioned in the beginning, if you want to see us get shitted on by the devs of of overprime, go watch it on mango system, windows, menaces or egos, egos, YouTube videos. So and check, check, catch it there. Check stuff in the run out. I've got their twitches and YouTube's linked in the description. So check them out if you want to if you want to watch their their their angle of this, maybe maybe I won't be able to stream one time. Maybe you'll have to go over to watch where their twitch streams. That's what we're trying to do here. We're trying to like spread the love a little bit. But yeah. Is that going to wrap it up, guys? Everybody good? Yeah, we're going to wrap it up, guys. Again, we're going to be live back again tomorrow next week on another episode of pop. Obviously, we're going to make we're going to try to set it for every Friday, however, because next week it is Thanksgiving. And stunt here is going to get lazy after eating so much turkey. I'm going to be in Vegas. What are you talking about? Oh, you're going to be in Vegas. So yeah, we're going to hold the next episode. The same thing we did today is just going to be on a Wednesday. And for now, I would like to thank you guys for being in here. Everyone, if you guys, I appreciate your presence. Don't. Mangus, thank you for, you know, holding this show with me today. We are going to be hosted rating. We are going to be rating somebody in the Paragon, Paragon, the over prime community, and we are going to be rating one dude who is trying to play the game, have not played it a lot. And let's give them, let's give them some support. Yeah, yeah, which I could read, which I can't do that. Way, YouTube doesn't have a read. YouTube does have it. I could redirect, if I pre plan it. But I can't redirect to fucking YouTube. Doesn't let me redirect to Twitch. Come on out. Love you guys in YouTube, too. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Back camera. Do not come close. Yeah, come closer. Just open your mouth a little more. Yeah, I like it. I like it. Bye guys, see you on the next episode!