 Shepard who has a fixation with going after cats. He's caught many cats in the past in his yard and he always had to yank the cats out of his mouth before he put an end to them. All right welcome I'm Richard Hines and today's video is going to be about how to stop dogs from severely attacking or possibly killing cats. Okay so 20-something years I've been doing this I've done thousands of cases where my clients they're calling me in because either the cat is new or the dog is new and that dog will just not stop hunting that cat and in most cases of my cases the dog is not playing right so if they get a hold of those cats it is over it's game over cat is not going to live through it so the cases that I've done in my career been generally very serious so I have a lot of experience at this and for 20-something years way back believe me I had experimented with everything when it comes to aggression in general but the dog training industry in general by the year in real-world dog training is getting worse and worse and worse by the year okay so that's why I'm doing these types of videos now and a bunch of people had sent me this video all right so now what you're gonna do now we got the cat out what I need you to do is you're gonna yeah you're gonna call him backwards and you're gonna tell him the place so recall walk backwards place good down stay all right so now you're gonna work on the final which is to leave it leave it all right Fred so now you're gonna recall him to you that's good now send him to his place that's place good so now what I want you to do is I have clients that I do on Skype that are nationwide worldwide they have this issue a few of them had brought up this particular video and they've been trying the method to stop their dog from hunting and killing their cats right so after trying watching the video having experts come in they just have not been able to even dent this problem so I'm gonna use this particular video and hanging with me because nothing as as simple as it seems or sounds okay so I'm gonna I'm gonna lay this out for you in stages according to what this trainer is teaching on YouTube and a lot of people are watching these videos right so this is the scary thing as well this kid is getting a lot of attention and when somebody like me sees these videos and that many people are watching this is a big problem because it's being taught completely incorrectly right completely there is nothing to this method or or any of that that is actually gonna work I know that for sure because 20 years ago the things that he's doing in the video I did when I was an amateur right so I cleared that up 20 years ago knowing that that's never gonna get us where we want to be we want a complete fix we don't want maintenance management or avoidance okay in anything in aggression so I just want to make clear here to you're gonna see in the video I'm gonna use this kid's video his head is gonna be cut off I'm not gonna show who he is because my intention to do this video is not to call him out embarrass him or try to make a fool of him okay that is not my style so you are not gonna see his head you will hear his voice but you will not see him right because that is not the intention behind this to criticize him like that like to call him out and make him look foolish okay but I really think it's important and people who know me who have followed me I generally stay out of these types of things and let people tell the world what they want to tell them so that's why I'm gonna show here I'm gonna go through this and I'm gonna show my cases of how this is really supposed to be done and showing the difference between the two methods and the results okay it's clear to see so I'm gonna start here and have him start talking to his client on the couch and then we'll go from there and I'm gonna explain each step of why those things are inaccurate don't work and don't try them to what you should be doing how to get the results okay so just remember this is gonna be about aggression towards cats I'm gonna skip into other things a little bit to lead you in there after this beginning to give you more in-depth understanding and knowledge to this as he starts saying things to his client I'm gonna clear that up for you okay to go off of what he's saying so here he's on the couch and he's talking to his client and then we'll go from there so what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna we're gonna grab stacks we're gonna get him in here and I'm gonna go over some of these really key fundamental principles of obedience that really helps with this and I think the most important thing for you as a dog owners to realize that we can't tell a fish not to swim and in this case it means like I can't take that prey drive out of him but I can certainly give you the fundamental obedience to manage the situation okay so I have heard him say this in the few videos that I have seen of his and he has said the same thing to his clients for dog to human aggression and dog to dog aggression right okay so obviously if you know anything about dog training and you've done this industry right really well and you really understand dogs what he just said there to his client is ridiculous okay so huh so when he says to him he's not gonna be able to deal with his prey drive right that you're gonna have to deal with that you're gonna have to live with that that you're not gonna be able to take that away from him so meaning the trainer the kid is not gonna be able to help this guy if he's reading between the lines he's gonna give him methods to manage the dogs aggression towards the cat right so this is big bad red flag news to me if the owner knew better so I'm gonna give you some examples here right because you would never ever hear me tell a client in for anything that we're working on right that we're not gonna be able to change the dog because he's got drive or he's got desires strong for something right if you know what you're doing that is ridiculous right that doesn't even make sense so here just let me give you a little so I'm gonna show you Rocco and people who know my channel will know the German Shepherd the protection dog Rocco I'm just gonna use this one tiny example okay now anybody who does working dogs for a living like I do imports the highest level of drive in dogs right and what do you hear in the public and online are you sure you want a dog that comes from working lines with drive do you understand how they can be so overwhelming right and and little nutty because they were born and bred to build drive in why so we're picking dogs for us with a lot of drive and prey drive right prey drive gives us the ability to teach the dog all sorts of skills right of drug detection you know search and rescue bite work to protect our homes the officers on the streets prey drive we want a lot of hunt and prey drive in our genetics so these are not random dogs we're picking these specific special dogs with these genes that are breeding prey drive to prey drive to make them very right difficult for the regular owner of a house pet right you got to have skill and understanding of dog psychology to be able to handle one of these working dogs it has a lot of drive okay but it's easy when you understand how to do it and I've owned thousands of them in my life so them fully trained trained for people big time working sport dogs with big drive and there's no such thing as we cannot control it curve it stuff it right if you know what you're doing so gonna give you a little example here of Rocco dog I train comes from Schutzen German working lines big time prey drive that you need to go after cats so they're equivalent but here I'm going to show you the protection scenario because it's the same right cat hunt human cat right so Rocco's genes were developed to protection protection protection protection prey prey chase things attack things right so that would be me saying right off the bat what won't be able to control his drive so he'll just be a lunatic and we'll have to deal with that of him being a biting lunatic right that makes no sense whatsoever so here just watching Rocco he's high level protection dog that I taught him he loves the bite it's a passion for him but we made him extremely stable reliable no nonsense and he has to control his drives his hunt right of not to go after people me in particular right when he is not told to he has to act normal shut his drive off turn his drive on when we ask for it so you're gonna see Rocco here a lot of people have seen this if you follow me this year but it's just an example of taking a very high driven dog that loves to bite that we can turn him on easily shut him off I can go pet him there's no nonsense he doesn't try to bite me while I pet him right because we shot his drive okay and when she tells him to go back on and sends him to bite me he does it exactly everything what he's told when he's told okay here's example okay so just an example of you're taking one of the most driven dogs that has a lot of prey hunt drive and balancing it and keeping it under control and completely in check and he's a great dog with perfect balance he will not bite anybody unless he is told or the owners are attacked or the house is robbed right you can have parties around this guy he has parties with a hundred people he socially loves people he plays with people right so we have created him to be the perfect balance but this is the exact dog we're talking here we're gonna show you in a second that this kid is working with that attacks cats we're dealing with the same drive that is making that dog attack the cat in the house as this protection dog that we're dealing with here so the three things I like to teach dogs for this type of stuff is very basic the place command the recall which is the come command and then the leave it command all right so you just heard them there those three things the place command the come command the leave it command those are his bylaws right the the core of how he goes about things so I'm gonna give you the three things that you never do when you're dealing with aggression in any form or in this particular case in this video we're talking about dog-to-cat applies to all so here are the three things that you never do the place command the come command and leave it command right so we're gonna go through that now and why it doesn't make any sense in this and what's the proper way to go about this right and the flaws will start showing in the system of those three things as shortly as we start going through the video so remember that no place command meaning bad place no come and no leave it okay but he's saying he has three fundamentals he teaches every client bed command come command leave it come out so the three things I like to teach dogs for this type of stuff is very basic the place command the recall which is the come command and then the leave it command absolutely do not do it so let's go here we'll start with the place command which is his first fundamental I'm gonna give you an example here that this was on a TV show and this trainer here in the video is using the bed okay the place command to try to stop this little bully from destroying pool toys and floaties right he's obsessed he has a strong instinct he just has to do it so the trainer is starting this all completely wrong from the start anyway this is not gonna work even if the dog held the bed okay so we're gonna go here in a sec so he's gonna put it on a bed while they're having a pool party because he cannot be out there with everybody or he will just run havoc and destroy every floaty if you're swimming on it it'll destroy it so he has to be maintained and contained because he cannot be free they know he's gonna go destroy and grab the stuff so the trainer thinks that the method to this and the answer to this is to use the bed command bring the dog out and put him on the bed and teach him how to be on the bed while he's out in that environment to control himself now I want you to think about something for a second because obviously most people trainers don't think about these things are you gonna maintain him the rest of his life on that bed what are we doing are we trying to avoid the issue keep him on a bed as long as he's on the bed he can't destroy things or are we trying to fix the problem and not have him destroy the toys and the things meaning once that's fixed he can be free to roam the pool area while people are on floaties and have a good time with the people and not have to be stuck on a bed right so right off the bat the method is incorrect and this is what we call the band-aid effect the band-aid effect is trying to get a dog to redirect itself or hold itself somewhere so that they don't misbehave doing the things that they would do if they were not on the object the bed meaning that the owner and the trainer cannot control the dog right so they have to be on a bed or else they won't be able to stop them from doing what he's gonna do right so this is what we call the band-aid effect it's a superficial artificial kind of concept right to keep him from what he would do so you're not fixing the problem you're band-dating but he's gonna do it the rest of his life right so if he ever gets off that bed he is gonna destroy the objects just like he did right there so the moment he got a little bit emotional he just broke off the bed where they were trying to keep him and he grabbed it and couldn't help and shook it right because it's the wrong concept you're not trying to stop the dog from doing what he would do you want him to go do what he wants to do and fix it so he doesn't want to eat the pool things anymore not avoid it and keep him from it you're not teaching him you are only maintaining him for the moment so what that means is for the rest of his life he would have to be on that bed if he did it well he would have to hold himself on that bed every time they're out in the pool area and he could never walk around freely unless he was on a leash because you know he's gonna go after all the objects the rest of his life because he never was taught how not to do the behavior he was taught how to do a bed command which does not fix eating the objects right simple to understand but all trainers and behaviors do these concepts right it just baffles my mind how that is not understood right so of course if I went I'm gonna go straight to the objects I'm gonna do a bed command you'll never see me do a bed command for any behavior I'm not gonna avoid anything we go straight at it we get it done right so here you're gonna see the trainer we're talking now with the cat video back here and he's having the owner do the bed command right to keep him there and hold him there so that when the cat comes out and the woman sits on the couch far away I might add not even close to the dog's range right to hold him on a bed so he cannot go and react to the cat the place command is basically a targeted area like this bed here that we have set up so it could be a bed it could be a cot anything other than the ground and what we want to be able to do is say hey dog go there because what that does is it initially takes away and decompresses that pressure of him going like where's the cat so now what you're gonna do now we got the cat out what I need you to do is you're gonna is already better yeah you're gonna call him backwards and you're gonna tell him the place so recall walk backwards place good down stay good place stay all right so now you're gonna work on the final which is to leave it leave it leave it good alright friends so now you're gonna recall him to you then here the trainer kid has the owner put the shepherd on the bed when they bring the cat out the cat is so far away in the room right that it's irrelevant even right that the cat's even in the room so they're holding him off from engaging with the cat trying to teach him how to hold his bed command okay and again that's we're working on a bed command and controlling himself we are not working on the cat problem okay the behaviors are not linked he doesn't have a chance that cat you cannot fix him going after the cats okay period so right here they're doing tell them come to you tell them go to bed tell them stay tell them leave it right all in one shot to maintain him on that bed did not interact with the cat that's far away from him right none of it makes any sense has any relevance all right now I'm gonna show you one of my clients dogs that we that I worked with and this pitbull here mango now let me tell you that this guy's cat aggression is as severe as it gets right this guy when I tested him the first day and I took him on a leash and into the rooms with the cat because the owners weren't sure mango was new to the house the cats have been there if he was playing or he was trying to kill them so they had them separate that aggression that he had towards those cats was off the hook right he was absolutely out of his mind and he was gonna do anything fucking fighting to try to kill these cats right now just as an example because I did not film the first day I you know it was too much to do film and handle him so just as an example I just want to give you the look of what it looked like when I had mango and he went after those cats for the first time in the house when I had him on a leash it looked just like this German shepherd going after this dog I just want to give you the comparison of how crazy he went with serious vicious aggression towards those cats so what we did we worked him for a week or so had a muzzle on him because you could not have him around the couch without a muzzle on he was absolutely gonna destroy them so muzzle e-color for sure no option or the cats are gonna die okay so it took a good week or so to get it under control putting mango in with the dogs right so that we can get it under control and get him to be with the cats close range today is going to be the first day we take the muzzle off and no leash and have him loose with the cats to see how he does mango's curious like what crazy cat just jumped right in my path it had that choice and had that right there trying okay so here with mango we never did a bed command we never did a come and we never did a leave it okay no such thing so the objective is to get mango to walk around the house freely without a leash on and the cats being able to be out on the couches walk around the rooms they're not going to be chased assassinated right mango has to do this himself with no human at no hey look at me no hey come here right so we want that freedom of the dog being able and the cats to walk freely in their own house and we don't have to get involved because we have it done okay so here we go again we're gonna talk about this it what would happen right if the owners weren't around and then we're talking in any scenario of aggression and you were doing superficial things like go to your bed come to me look at me right what happens if you are not there to do that you know that the dog is going to kill the cat because he never learned how not to kill the cat or touch the cat in that way right he was just doing place go to your bed come to me leave it look at me right none of that works when it comes to aggression because reality is are we going to contain the dog all the time and have to have one a leash his whole life and not let the cats in here right because the moment we're not around to go go to your bed come to me and leave it the cats are going to die common sense right so you have to be thinking in the end I have to make sure that if the owners aren't around and the cat and the dog accidentally or even by accident if you were in the beginning stages of this that the dog is afraid of the cats and no way know how would he even think about going the cats because we've made him afraid of the presence of the cats that's the ticket that's the key in the beginning right avoidance behavior in the beginning because reality is we're not always going to be able to go out bed sit and leave it that look at me right because that means that you actually never fixed his aggression or even worked on his aggression you were working on superficials to be able to manage it not fixing him so one day when they get together and you are not in the room we're not home to go bed leave it look it right the cat is gonna die because the problem was never resolved it was bandated by doing superficial things that have nothing to do with him killing the cat everything was done to manage it and keep him from misbehaving and trying to do the bad thing so he was never able to learn to fix his hunt and passion for trying to hurt the cats right so this is the understand this is how it works it's the only way it works alright here's another case of mine on YouTube of a German Shepherd that is a cat hunter and killer two-year-old German Shepherd who has a fixation with going after cats he's caught many cats in the past in his yard and he always had to yank the cats out of his mouth before he put an end to them they just rescued this little kitten you just saw and they're just fostering in the meantime until they can get at a home but they got a blockade the cat somewhere because tyken hunts this cat all day long he wants it badly so today's session is taking care of tyken letting go of the fascination and fixation of this kitten okay so he's had like seven cats that the owners he's gotten his mouth and shaken they run out and they grab the cats out of his mouth right I'm pretty sure it was a few they said that actually he killed so he has a serious thing towards cats okay so the difference between this dog and mango the pit bull took a few weeks because his aggression and his personality was so tough and insane right and to curve it took a little bit a week or two this German Shepherd way different personality temperament easy to correct and discipline so this here I'm going to show you was all done in one day right unlike mango that was done in a week or so okay so here this is how I go about right from day one we put the dog into the problem no bed command no look at me no ads and we put him in the problem and very shortly the same day we have him not hunting the cat avoiding it and not wanting to mess with the cat in one session so now with the cat there but she's so tiny that I lose her frame right so now he's gonna avoid the look so now what we do you're gonna go inside a whole but Titan you're gonna go tire so he can't reach right we see that there right we see the look and then he turned back away all right we see how the calm the cat is yeah because she knows he right now he's not hunting mode all right cuz he's done so there's no energy right now from him to her sit so she's willing to just sit up there and think she's safe but she feels okay right you see how we just did there and then from that perspective I know you can see it when he just walked down there he started licking those lips so bad for stressing being near that cat and as soon as you got a foot or two past the cat he stopped licking his lips right because once he gets a territory the cat he knows he's safe but the cat zone is stressing them out so I'm gonna try one more and I'm going to move right so you see there how he's trying to pass and he's trying to avoid right you see there he turned away and he's avoiding the cat right you can see if you stay right there you're gonna sit in there I'm gonna get him if he right right see all the licking the lips there right I'm gonna keep them right there you're gonna keep him right there so you could do that but the only thing here if you do a sit you're gonna put him into a different obedience mind if he's standing without the sit he goes into stalking mind right so then what I would do here but see he's not even gonna pay attention to the cat he get nice licking his lips stressing all right he doesn't want to be near so what you'll do is you're gonna go over there you're gonna turn one more time and we're gonna try to get him as close as we can but we're gonna sit him in here right see he goes the other side we're gonna leave him like sit him in here just so he can't reach stuff sit right but if you do sit now we're going to obedience he's looking right at right so I do we're okay we don't need to sit what we're testing here is without the sit command is by himself with no commands is he gonna be able to hold himself naturally and not stalk it let's see you know with you behind see he's checking there but he licked his lips again but he's holding off the cat because in his hands now whether he gets punished or not hey cat's gonna try to call because she feels right now safe that was almost used but she's trying to jump off that way she likes to run around right so now that we have this done so let's just change position for a second we'll change location so we're gonna bring him on this side right see how he goes the opposite side here we'll be near the cat right right good alright he sat himself now he looks at the cat like that now it was just about to get him but he redirected I see that big yawn he just did letting go all the anxiety alright good so he stared at it he let it go okay so here with tight the objective we're pushing him into that space we want him near the cat and we're even trying to get him closer in but he's taking the other direction to get away right because he was disciplined in the beginning to respect the cat not hunt the cat right there's consequences for that action right we got to save the cat's life if we don't make this dog respect that cat and give him consequence for looking wrong at the cat any behavior stores the cat the cat is going to die okay now here you also notice he's there and he's looking the other way and he's just not right and the owner has a loose leash it's not like we're holding him back right he's not even trying because he knows better so also very important you are not seeing any verbal communication to this dog right and right there in front of cat like hey look at me like not look at the cat look at me don't look at the cat right no it's his in his hands to know what the right thing and the wrong thing to do is naturally without us interfering right because if he was to do it and we go I know you don't look at him right we're gonna do this the rest of his life because he's not learned he's just going oh did you need me what don't I mean just don't look at him right now and then of course we're gonna have a disaster coming soon because it's all being cued by the owner he's not doing it himself knowing it's wrong to look at the cat without anybody telling him that right so it's very important that that is done and this is done in all aggression cases right it's no human going hey hey over here look at me come over here sit sit sit no no obedience and it's in his hands to do his own thing and what he wants to do and we will play to it if he does it wrong okay so very important so we're stuffing him in there tight into that space right I was trying to get him to ride right next to the cat and pass it right but he wouldn't do it he would keep going around so it's perfect so here you're gonna see the cat hisses at mango now a few weeks ago when the cat would hiss at mango that would light him up so it was like a personal challenge and you'd see him he was trying to hold himself off the cats once we started getting it going where he was not to attack him but if the cat would hiss at him at all you would see him go into automatic challenge mode and be like what you just hiss at me now it's on that's it come here cat so today now you see when the cat hissed at him he actually looked and then just turned away and avoided the conflict with the cat so not any yeah yeah perfect no he's turned his head away she has done yeah yeah he totally turned away and again like I said there weeks ago if that cat would have hissed at mango like that mango would have shot for him and tried to assassinate him for trying to bully him and trying to talk back to him right so we have paired in our training that he must take and accept if a cat is gonna warn him right and it's justified because he has been harassing these cats so badly they haven't been able to live in the house right they're terrified of him because he's been such a bully hunting them severely I mean literally trying to take them out I mean it's serious business so we had during that week corrected mango if he gets in the cat space too close to look away and do not get angry back you look away and let the cat hiss at you so not you know yeah yeah yeah oh perfect now he's turned his head away yeah yeah he totally turned away right you do not take issue with it and then go at the cat and try to fight him for disobedience right so that worked out perfect so now we're getting mango to understand right he's free he's close he's off a leash he can do what he wants and he's not reacting to any of the things anymore that would have really set him off the recall does is exactly how it sounds so when he's out searching for the cat and Tony is kind of running away and hiding you can recall him to you which will then allow you to also decompress that hunt drive that prey drive and basically break the attention of him constantly friend looking for the cat all right so no come command right fantastic yes you should teach your dog a come command for sure in life not for this okay because your dog should be learning not to touch a cat not to hunt a cat period not that I have to rely that he gets loose oh my god is he doing something come right by that time it's too late anyway and if you really want some they're going to disregard the come command right when they're in high prey mode and close they're going to disregard that command anyway right so the difference would be just to give you so you have a perspective let's say which happened to me yesterday with one of my clients they live on a ranch and there was a possum out there and they have these big poisonous toads that we have here they grab one of those poisonous toes they shoot that thing and they kill the dogs and give them a heart attack pretty quick very deadly so they have both on there on the ranch but the possum the dog when he went out to go to bathroom saw the possum an acre away ran to go chase the possum and go get him the owner calls him the dog did turn around because he has a good come command right so the dogs that go through my programs have phenomenal come commands now when she told this to me that's great he has a come command but that's not the way you fix that problem right come is one thing right fixing him going after animals is a different issue they're not the same right so very proud he goes he comes back and I already know what happened after that because I've done this a million times and I know what she's going to tell me next well he came back and then he ran again it went to go get the possum right of course because you're not fixing the possum problem you're doing a recall you're doing a come command so he's doing his come command right he's doing his come command perfectly so what he thinks is you're working on your come command from the possum he doesn't know it's wrong to go get the possum right so how do you fix that you let him go somewhere fairly you know in safe range from the possum and we correct him with the colors right and we don't tell him anything he can stay out there do it right and that's how he gets rid of it we don't do comes and everybody will tell you that does that it doesn't never fixes the problem they always will go shoot for animals he always got to go come come right so now you can't trust like with this woman then she can't trust the dog now to go outside by himself because he just goes in his come is great but he will go get the animals if she doesn't tell him come right so it does not fix the hunting problem and the grabbing the animal problem you got to fix that so he never chases animals without a come command or a no right none of that you have to make that behavior negative on its own so that if you open the door and he goes to New York sees a possum next time he goes oh yeah I'm good because going after the possum is unpleasant and I don't know how the possum does that but he's negative right it's not a pleasant thing anymore going after these animals so some reason they light up right so it's not a come command you got to fix the issue the come command is again a band-aid and come and he goes back come and he goes back and he still chases because he doesn't understand that going after the animal is the wrong thing he's just responding to the command he knows and he shoots back out okay everybody has that problem they're seeing the behaviors differently than what they really are and this is what's happening with this trainer okay so mango again here is how we utilize the come command when we're dealing with issues right of this type we're gonna have him come right down the lane come and he's gonna have to pass the cat right up and tight there right and normally this is dangerous territory because mango again he not playing right so we say come because we want to draw him into the problem right right right to the cat's face and a cat's not even sweating it usually a cat would get up in his but men we're playing danger games but this is the ultimate test for mango cat facing him head on and him tight space going right to the cat on the couch to the other owner that's Russian roulette right and and get right up on that cat and that's the only way he's gonna do it so our come command we're using to our advantage to put him in a uncomfortable spot coming down that tight lane with the cat there on the couch that he doesn't want to be in right now because the cat's been a problem for him right so we're drawing him with that come command to make him go on to pressure and deal with his issue right to see how good he's gonna deal with this if you want to you can move around the room yeah I see he's gonna avoid that that area where you are he doesn't want to be part of that right slinking through gonna go other way stay away from cat right right right what he's slinked through there huh last but not least will be the leave it command the leave it command is gonna be universally used for pretty much anything you do not want him engaged in that's gonna come at the very end when we bring Tony out hopefully we can get him out of his his scared place and we can then say hey stacks leave it and then for him to disengage off of Tony to redirect his attention okay again no leave it command no right you have not heard us say leave it or anything to help the dogs redirect their behavior throughout this video because it would be detrimental to fixing the problem if you try to interfere okay so here's what happens with the leave it command in life and ask anybody who does that right and for anything leave it leave it leave it leave it leave it leave it so this is gonna be a lifestyle right you're not correcting the dog for doing that you're just going leave it not right now that's what it means to the dog right leave it means that not right now right so of course the dog again in this life is gonna go try it again if you're not around try it again try it again till you tell him leave it so you're not fixing anything the leave it command is a nightmare in dog training right generally so you're not gonna see here leave it right so again you've never heard us say it through the whole video is no leave it don't look at the cat no we want the dog to look at the cat if you want we want the dog to do whatever he wants to do you do not redirect behaviors in dog training because then you cannot fix anything this is the band-aid effect again so ask the people leave it leave it do I have to say leave it the rest of the 10 years I have him yep so if you're telling him leave it all the time for things you're gonna have to do leave it for every single thing he likes and wants right the rest of his life it does not fix especially in this and aggression right because you're not correcting him you're interrupting if he was looking at the cat going and you go leave it and he goes yes did you want something no I just didn't want you to look at the cat right now and then he goes again right or moments later they're gonna do it again right it's not a fix it's an interruption so we I never use leave it in my system right he has to do things and choose things and consequence or no consequence without anything going on and him figuring it out without human help going back to that whole thing of if I use leave it all the time or calm or bed I have to rely on these things the rest of his life because he's never gonna kick the behavior because I'm always on top of him maintaining him and managing him trying to make sure he doesn't do the wrong things he should know how not to do the wrong things by himself so I don't ever have to look at him anymore I can sit in the house and be at peace and he knows how to behave right okay and the example would be here the cats being thrown out in the open for mango that's the game right cats got a move dogs free dogs off a leash this is life mangoes curious like what crazy cat just jumped right in my path it had that choice and had that right there trying we we play it out this is what has to happen but you don't see us here if he goes and walks around checking the cats out at leave it come to me right let the guy explore right I can tell if he's in a dangerous body language we'll correct him if he goes into that kind of thing but you got to let the dog go out and explore it's okay we don't mind that the dog goes out and looks around the cats and they're walking around he's curious right because believe me weeks ago it was just an instant bomb and crash the cats and go through walls whatever he's got to do to grab those cats right now he's just curious so he's just like hey where you going so what what are they doing so I can follow him right I don't mind just don't do anything crazy right you're gonna get corrected so we don't mind the flowing we have to have this to have the naturalness come out of this but you're never seeing us go I leave it redirect him because he's looking at the cats and where they're walking it's different if he's going right that's trouble and we know he's in a bad state of mind and bad things are coming very shortly he's in stalk mode and nothing good is gonna come out of that right now he's just curious and we're good right and everything from there by the way for years years right perfect with him so it works my system works our guys it's time for the final moment where we're actually gonna get Tony the cat out and we're gonna think he's ready yeah I think he's ready I think that you guys worked really hard and I think that you don't think he's ready you got it listen you got a truck trust the process I think he's ready I think he's ready so as I was saying we're gonna get Tony the cat out I'm gonna try this out for real all right so now what you're gonna do is now we got the cat out what I need you to do is you're gonna it's already better yeah you're gonna call him backwards and you're gonna tell him the place so recall walk backwards place good down stay good place stay all right so now you're gonna work on the final which is to leave it leave it leave it good all right Fred so now you're gonna recall him to you that's come good now send him to his place that's place good place good so now what I want you to do is now Christine why don't you just get up and just walk that way and he's gonna follow Christine in the cat tell him to leave it leave it good let him out a little bit let him out a little bit break break good stop nope gotta let him out so we got to do a recall okay so we'll do it again so put him back sacks place so you let him out have him here and we're gonna do that whole process again okay sacks break good let him go hold recall him back come good come back place good wonderful so see how nice that is so those three things with the hey come back to me because I know you're interested and then giving him a job of like this is where I want you to be because Tony's got to live his life to and then you telling him to leave it to disengage him to say like okay I won't go we'll really really help you guys in the future so you're not like you're not completely out of the woods yet there's still a lot of work that you need to do but now you're in a situation you have the tools to manage it and you're going to be a lot more successful now instead of just having him run around and be a shepherd now he's going to be a shepherd with structure and control all right so all right so let's just we'll go over this last segment here that he's talking about and when he says the owner you ready right I'm waiting for this grand finale because he hinted in the video that the he had the owners working on this for weeks they didn't just do this today they have been working on this for a while right so when he says you're ready for the finale this is weeks later right keep in mind from the start of and you know I'm waiting for dog off leash I'm waiting for the cat to be out in the room the dog off his bed to be mingling with the cat or some degree we're still the same spot where he's on a leash sending to his bed come to bed and the cats not even relevant in the room so the cat in all this process has never even been worked on the place command the come command and the leave it command have been heavily worked on and he's still on a leash weeks weeks later after they've been really working on this there's no result right there's nothing to show there there's nothing happened there's nothing I I don't know I'm I'm at a loss because there was no improvement whatsoever right because he's being maintained right he's because you know that if he was let off that leash and they know that because when the woman brought the cat in kept that then she just left quickly and bailed out the room so she wasn't even the room right there right so I don't know what just happened in that video I don't know what the hell I was watching to be honest and that was an absolute complete train wreck to me right so just get telling you right if you're looking at something you're really reading something and you know how to look at some I mean most people wouldn't because they don't know the process and they don't know how these things work they're just hearing this kid talk a lot he talks well he really talks a good game this guy but there's never any results at the end of these videos he shows and this is a perfect example right none of these commands have any relevance to fixing that behavior or even denting it and he just proved it right weeks weeks later at the end we're doing a finale now right we're doing a finale like I'm waiting for something great and he's still on a leash and being hooked on the bed and he's not even going anywhere they won't let him and there's been no engagement with the cat whatsoever this is a total disaster and people are paying big money to this kid right and he to work with their dogs with aggression but the concept the technique everything isn't just not there you're so I mean it's a big problem in the dog industry right this is the only reason I'm bringing these videos out and again it's getting worse and worse and worse by the year with all these influx of new age trainers right it's not getting better it's getting worse so you know people spending money all my clients spend on six trainers ten trainers behaviorist thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars and doing things like this right so they've always pleaded with me please do YouTube videos to try to call this out because we wouldn't spend so much money if somebody knew what they were doing right because this is completely ridiculous crazy nonsense right train wreck right this is just so you know and then at the end here he's also saying you know to manage it he said so you have the tools now to manage it so you're not like you're not completely out of the woods yet there's still a lot of work that you need to do but now you're in a situation you have the tools to manage it great so did I pay you to manage it or did I pay you to fix it so I mean I'm gonna now you know that the owner's gonna have to keep this dog on the least the rest of his life right there's no way this guy's gonna be able to let that dog off a leash with the cat walking around not the way they just did the system place bed command come and leave it no way is that happening right unless the dog really didn't care about the cat really that much at all and he didn't want to hurt him and it was just like a little play thing right but if this is a real aggression case that cat's in big trouble this is never gonna resolve itself and he's telling you the other trainer he's pretty sure is his under management and there that the dog the shepherd it's not gonna be a dog that runs around the house freely like that anymore he's gonna have discipline and have to be put in places to be able to control him so he cannot run freely in the house and cause havoc and try to get the cat when you're not looking that was the reference there that he was kind of leaning to oh and believe I try to stay away from these kind of videos and I don't look at people's videos out there I just don't watch dog training videos I can't do it I watch nobody I can't do it right for for these reasons I just don't look at anybody else's videos I don't watch anybody right I just can't do it so there all right so I just want to give you hopefully an education an eye-opener to what is happening in the dog training world these are the things that people are going through these are the people that people are tending to gravitate to and now and follow on YouTube at big levels trusting that these people know what they're saying and it's far from the truth and you know when people start following this it creates trends and these trends you know really create havoc in the industry so there you have it this was a tough one for me emotionally all right so hope you enjoyed till next time Miami Dog Whisper