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So it's like you keep chasing the money you know without realizing okay what really why am I at this job you know and what really is my purpose. So I think it's half and half but it's still more money driven. Okay. Isi, let's hear your thoughts. Well this is such an interesting topic because the youth of Nigeria like Jennifer said kind of various because we keep talking about the youth standing out as money driven but we also have others who are the older generation who have been quite money driven and for us to dissect this we need to understand that being money driven is it has a negative connotation and this negative connotation is that your interest is more into your interest is excessively all about money basically and if your interest is all about money basically that means that all you're thinking about is how do I make more money not because you have a higher calling of what you want to do with the money like Mary said you are just going through the motion to accumulate more wealth without you looking at your wives while you're looking for the money you just want more money so irrespective of your values that's where we have individuals who are you know they go into money rituals they do all sorts of things in the name of acquiring wealth so being money driven has a negative connotation now let's take it to being purpose driven to be purpose driven has a positive connotation and that means that the individual is interested in making an impact giving people something that is higher than himself it has a higher calling basically and one of the characteristics of being purpose driven to be purpose driven you have to be able to achieve something with a goal and is measurable and being purpose driven you have to be resource you have to be basically born oriented, intelligent resourceful, curious a problem solver and ultimately God conscious now do we as Nigerians have all of these qualities yes we do we have all of these qualities whether we are doing it negatively or positively that is essential that's why you see that when they say the thief is going to steal what does he do he will pray first to solve a problem and the key thing is are they intelligent about it in some ways yes they are so it still brings us to the concept of the mindset of the average Nigerian youth what's the idea behind the average Nigerian youth what drives them what motivates them what makes them want to do things maybe go the fraudulent way or go towards being purpose driven which is the higher calling what drives them during the ensues there are a lot of purpose driven Nigerians believe it or not but again we saw vis-à-vis individuals who were money driven who must have caused the mayhem during the ensues let me give you this example based on what Jennifer stated earlier about the older generation before I go on again there is this lady who was right in front of me and the another lady who was older was walking behind this woman and her money dropped I expected this lady to actually tell her all my picking this lady is about she being a 50s or 60s who was walking right behind a lady who was probably in her 20s and also this lady to mama to call the young lady and say my picking tell your money will drop what did she do she picked the money and placed it in her pocket now that's an older generation not being sincere irrespective of the values you expect an older woman to have irrespective of whatever she believes in at that particular point in time she will say find this keeper God dropped this money for me I have picked it up so we have the mindset of the Nigerian youth generally a bit should I say the Nigerian youth has a lot of work to do as individuals as a collective body and how do we do this we have to pour the fact that we have to talk to the individuals or the Nigerian youth about what and where we want to go what do we believe in the society right now is all about survival, survival, survival the Nigerian youth if you look at it from the money-driven perspective all you are thinking about is survival how are they going to survive this generation this generation that we found themselves currently in yes again we also have those who are purpose-driven so yes it's a two-way street we have those who are purpose-driven and yes we have those who are money-driven now does it tilt towards those who are purpose-driven or money-driven more it's going to be based on statistics which I do not have thank you thank you so much if I break down okay thank you so for me and this is me talking about Nigerian youth in general so now let's go back to the stories that we've heard about all of the rituals I remember there was one time, I don't know if it was I think it was 2021 between 2021 and early months of 2022 there were so many stories of rituals boyfriend killing girlfriend finding missing body parts things like that and that's the angle I want to look at one of the angles I want to look at it from tonight we see that a lot of Nigerian youth that I don't know if I should call it under some sort of societal pressure to make money because everybody wants to drive a flashy car they want to use the latest apple products they want to leave la vida loca go on vacations and whatnot and this also applies to the ladies as well the girls are now going to the extreme to do also we're talking to your daddy about BBL and why people are getting BBL and talking about how some people are doing that in the form of investment this is because they want to do things that are going to end them money that they know that they will not sit in an office to do some sort of business so everybody is looking for the get rich quick scheme to make money out of so if we're looking at it from that angle I know that and I do not even say this with any form of what now I know that there are people out there who actually walk actually walk so hard to make to make good money clean money right and I appreciate and respect those people the whole lot but then we keep hearing the stories of how people are going to the extreme to do all sort of things there's the pressure of oh I want to be recognized when we talk about the achievers top 30 achievers in 2023 they're talking about the people that are making boards and whatnot even going to come to that particularly right so this is where I want us to look at this conversation from what do you think Nigerian youth should focus more on I hear you say there's money driving you of course I mean money is very important you need money for your everyday life it's absolutely important at the same time it's also important to fulfill purpose because whatever religion it is I'm sure that at some point you know that you have a mandate on earth there's something that you're supposed to be doing and that's definitely fulfilling purpose so there's also that as well but then what can Nigerian youth do better what do you think that we need to change what do you think is there a mentality is there a mindset is there something that some people have probably gotten wrong somewhere is there some sort of I think I would actually come back to this conversation first let's take a break and then we'll come back we'll continue the conversation if you're just tuned in into our ladies night out and we are discussing the topic are Nigerian youth money driven or purpose driven please let's say what you have to say remember you can join the conversation send us an SMS or WhatsApp to 0818384663 you can also tweet at us at wayshowafrica1 with the hashtag wayshow our phone line is now open please call us on 070250077 call us on 070250077 call us on 070250077 call us on 070250077 call us on 070250077 remember to turn down the volumes of your devices that you may be calling us from so that we don't have feedback and we can hear you properly so before we went on the break I was saying what do you think the Nigerian youth need to do better I was talking about the rituals I was talking about the scams we've had a lot of scams in the tech space not just not only in Nigeria by the way when we come here globally we hear there's this 26 year old who owns a multi million multi million dollars and then in two years down the line you're hearing that he's been arranged by the police the feds have got and I'm asking myself because when the stories come out it makes people like me I sit down and I'm like what could this person have created the solution so and immediately I look, start unconsciously looking up maybe I can also do this in this way do this in this way because I don't understand the media also has a role to play the media has portrayed this quick scheme and I think what we can do is self awareness and let people also be honest with the process when you hear stories of these people who have made it it helps sometimes when I go to visit my clients and they tell me do you know when I started working I started working at 17 I didn't have this it brings me back to say okay it's really not doing so bad as you think it's baby steps to where you are going so if we can have more of those stories portrayed it would help because you can't be telling someone that find your purpose you are there driving a Porsche the person doesn't even know your before story doesn't know any backstory the person just seeing you I want this where I want to get but when you are able to talk to the younger ones encourage them it's okay I understand that it's tough where you are but it's going to get better the same way we preach about the country in Nigeria we are able to tell ourselves is this way but it's going to get better because a lot of us are still in survival mode and when you are in survival mode it's really hard to think what is your purpose it's hard because you just want to come out of that that rat hole and then you just realize that I'm actually comparing myself to people that weigh all that you know you see a married person the person has had kids everyone has gone through their struggles but if you are not aware of it if you are not able to call yourself back you will just be moving and I also wanted to say something I wanted to ask that do you think you can be both money driven and purpose driven because I mean everybody wants to be comfortable to some point and I think in that strive as well you can even find your purpose in that journey to being comfortable so I'm just wondering I think you can have a bit of both so you said something at first let me touch on that first so you see this thing called if I hear you correctly talking about someone who is when you go to someone's office and they say at 17 I made my first million and things like that but then talking about mentorship right but I have a problem with mentorship I feel like 85% of times these people don't tell you the truth okay they tell you oh I was 22 when I started my business and I made 5 million Naira and da da da da and when you go back you find out that there was some sort of money laundering there was some sort of they got a head start something like that you can compare someone who is from an elite family to someone who is literally from the grassroots and this is what happens in most cases you find young people in schools like uni lorry, uni lag and so and then you now see these people that they come and bring to them and say oh they are your mentors then you hear the names we know there are certain names that carry within Nigeria and then you hear oh this is my mentor and I'm asking myself look it's okay to have a mentor but is your mentor really guiding you through the right path so that's my own that's just my own problem with mentorship because I find out that in most cases the mentor does not particularly do what they are supposed to be doing they come and tell you the sweet stories of how some of them even have sad stories at the beginning how they worked so hard how they used to track from machines things like that but then when you now dive deep into research you find out that they are setting things that they are not saying to you and you are now working in that path of what it is that they have told you what you are supposed to have learnt from them and you find out that it's not particularly working for me now that's one part of it now you also ask is it possible to be purpose driven and money driven I don't mean to be religious but the truth is that when you are working in God's path for you the money will come so if surely and indeed you are fulfilling the mandate that you are placed on earth to fulfill you will make money from it your talent will make way for you that's what I believe though I mean yes at the beginning it might not be all roses it might be difficult to figure out what you are even supposed to be doing in the first place but the thing is that most of us are so lazy and laid back these days nobody wants to put in the work nobody wants to work because the truth is it's not easy to amass wealth it is hard you are not just going to wake up one morning some people favor or look as you may call it they get it at the snap of their fingers but for some of us it's not that easy you literally to pay your rent you are working you are working so I don't know why I keep wanting to say that you are working so hard to make the money to even feel you are working so hard to make money because I would have a conversation with my friend today and then she said see my income is not even meeting my daily needs anymore divide my transport money by 30 divide the feeding by 30 I am spending more than and it's not because she is trying to live a frivolous lifestyle it's just that things are really tough in the country right now so when we hear things like this some people don't have the tenacity or the resilience to keep pushing to make more money so instead what they do they go to the get rich quick scheme and then they resort to doing all sorts to make money so I think that's where this thing but like you said purpose and money it actually works I agree it works hand in hand but first things first you have to be sure that how do people amass wealth in the first place you have to be creating a solution to something for you to be able to make money that's how business is run right you are either creating you are providing a service or you are selling a product that is solving a problem and that's how you get clients or customers and you are able to make money from it if that is your purpose it means that you are going to repassionate about it it means that you are going to do it with also even when things are tough and on the days when you don't even feel like getting up or feeling like sending that email you will just keep you going right so that's my own I know so I hear both of you and I 100% agree but let me say this so first of all let's start with the definition of purpose so purpose is accumulative effect of meaningful goals and purpose is also having an impact now one of the issues that we have is the fact that people feel like having an impact means it has to be big you have to be recognized for it thank you has to hear about it the entire Nigeria or your state they have to put you on the news and say you paved the way for this but honestly that's not what it is so I can have 3-4-5 people in my immediate community and when I use the word community I'm talking about your streets I'm talking about your network your circle of people and you are impacting them in one way or the other and that is purpose that is impactation somebody feels your impact every day and I feel your impact just because you spoke to me nicely or I was going through something and you were there for me as far as I'm concerned you have impacted me I look back and say Sharon or Michael did this and it changed my life I remember the last time I can't remember the show we were talking about Daddy I think it was about body positivity and I mentioned how my former pastor's wife I was feeling so bad about myself and my health and she called me to the side and had a conversation she watched me from top to down and it changed my life now every time I look back and I remember and I look at myself now where my mind is and where I am right now I can't attribute some of that to her because she had not done that for me I don't know where my mind or my mental state of mind would have been right now and to me that is impact impact doesn't necessarily mean you have to feed 10,000 people that's not it it starts with your immediate environment it starts with your brothers and your sisters it starts with your friends it starts with your colleagues it doesn't necessarily have to be with your entire street they gave somebody you came into money or you've been working so hard I decided I want to start the road I want to fix our streets and sometimes if you look at these things that people do just to be recognized it comes from selfish because you have an ulterior motive now when you talk about purpose and impact there is no ulterior motive attached to it and another thing is you can't fulfill purpose you can't impact life if you don't even know what you're doing a lot of people don't even know what their purpose is and the first step is recognizing what it is waiting it has to be big I was in church we got into a conversation and then he played a video about a guy who had was he ATST I can't remember he wasn't doing well in his school but his dad and his mom decided you know what, you are good at painting why not go into art from art he went into photography My goal wasn't exactly to impact lives of other people. They wanted to really impact lives. Mine was, I want to start making something, something, something, but I will make money. But hearing theirs and I'm like, hmm, then I asked the question, so what's stopping you? And the girl goes, oh money to do this blah blah blah blah, I asked the second guy, what's stopping you? And he says, oh money to do this, money to do that. So he was, walk out, he wanted to, he wanted to walk on people's mindsets and help them become feeds and find their way, I mean in the health sector. While the lady, what she wanted to do was to help the less privileged and stuff like that. And I'm like, hmm, so I went to the lady first and I said, see, I know someone who I went to school with. And by the time she graduated, she took up a boy that she found on the streets and she started paying for his school fees. It wasn't expensive, it was very, and she would post when, oh he just finished his one now, he just finished his two now. Or finally he's done with secondary school, we're trying to get, and it was amazing to see. When I saw that and I saw her, my view of this girl changed overnight because I saw what she did. And I gave her that story and I said, see, you don't need to have an NGO, you don't need to impact the lives of 10,000 children. There's somebody on your street, there's a child on your street who hasn't been to school and they love books, pay for their school fees. School fees is probably $5,000 and that's because they go to a federal school, a government school. You can pay for it, start there. When she start doing things like that, people are seeing the work that you're putting. As far as you're not doing it, you're not being a hypocrite or you're not doing it for clout. Or it's not high service, do you understand? You do something like that, people will see it and say, oh you're doing an amazing job. They would want to fund you or donate. And sometimes, that might not be the end goal. You don't want people to donate, God will somehow bless you for it. And then the guy who was into fitness and I might see, do you have a space? You have a family house, you do start something. If you can't do that in your house, you can start something. Okay, every Saturday we will start running. I remember then in uni, I just said that everyone just knew me as Jennifer the Fitness. Am I just there working out? They always see me working out. People are always so slim and slender. I said it's work, it's not overnight, it's work. There are some things that I don't eat and there are some things that I eat in portions, that kind of thing. But you want to join me, not a problem. And people started joining me. Ladies from different hostels would come and then we would all work out together. And then somebody asked me one day, are you charging them for this? I said no. My own is, I just want to see the changes and I want this women to be happy with the results that they are seeing. And then towards graduation, a girl who was also working out with us came to meet me. That her mom said that she would buy me my graduation. She would buy them, she would buy my graduation dress for me if her daughter reduces inside. Okay, let's do this. And I looked at her and I'm like, I mean that's a nice gesture and I love that. But the truth is that I can't help you get it. It's all you. Do you understand? I can help you and give you that motivation. But at the end of the day, it's the work that you put in that matters. But tell your mom, thank you. And that was it. I didn't even remember that somebody said they were going to buy my graduation dress. I wasn't now banking on the graduation. So in essence, what am I saying? Take out time to find out what your purpose is. And it's something you need to sit and think about it. Like Mary said, we're literally relevant about that in survival mode. And that's the honest truth. You really cannot find the time to say, well, I won't think about purpose. I'm trying to survive. I want to make more money. And yes, money is good. I want to make money. I want to be rich. I want to be wealthy. But if it coincides with what God has called me to do on earth, then it can go. And that's the honest truth. It's a hard pill to swallow. But until you get to that point, you might not be able to find your purpose. I know, right? Jennifer is definitely speaking from experience. All right, Issy, let's hear what you have to say. Well, basically, the ladies have broken a lot of things down basically. And what really resonated with me in the course of their discussion was the fact that we need a change of mindset. I think whether we look at it from the perspective of the fraudulent money-driven youth, or we look at it from the perspective of the purpose-driven youth, we need a change of mindset. How do we intend to change the mindset? We need to change the narrative. Like I stated earlier, we didn't get to this point in our society overnight. It started from way back basically. And in the course of it, the mindset of the individuals or the youth started to change in terms of social interaction, in terms of the way they communicate basically, and in the way they thought. And this comes from survival mode. It comes from survival mode. Somewhere along the line, they transcended from survival mode into the purpose-driven mode. But before then, there was survival mode. So to answer Mary's question, yes, there is a balance between being money-driven and being purpose-driven basically. So it depends on where you find yourself at that particular point in time, which most times actually stems from survival mode. So yes, it is possible. But however, some people tend to remain in survival mode instead of them transcending into the purpose-driven mode. And that's where you see that we have individuals who are excessively into money irrespective of values or whatever beliefs they have that they are supposed to do in terms of, or impact they are supposed to have in society. So when we look at it from that perspective, we need to understand that, yes, the people, some people do not change from that mindset. So we need to work on the individuals. Yes, very true. And we need to work on our mindset as a collective entity basically. That's where I think we need to. All right. I think you also have a comment. Can we quickly take the comments you have? Okay. My comment is from... This says, Good evening, my dear beautiful sisters, of what are you saying? Hashtag ways are Nigerian view, money-driven or purpose-driven to be honest and to say if you look at it very well, most of them are money-driven and not purpose-driven. Why I said so is that they allow distraction to set in. They put aside their problems, which will make them decent, respected and responsible. Another thing is that they are also money-conscious. I agree with you on that. Money-conscious because they see that their friends have made it and they want to join and they want to join in and make it as well. My dear beautiful sister, Chinelo, made a mention of purpose and money-going hand-in-hand, which I agree. If these youth are focused on purpose more, which can change their lives and make them responsible, then money can come later to me, the two of them go hand-in-hand, I agree with you. I must confess you ladies, look beautiful and good-looking. My name is Daniel Waise. Thank you so much, Isi. Thank you, Daniel. This has been quite an interesting conversation and clearly there's so much to still uncover. But before we go, do ensure you follow us on Instagram at WaishuaAfrika. You can interact with us, further drop a comment and most importantly, follow us on social media engagements. 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