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We're calling it the essential credential It's a it's a Predation program through National energy efficiency Certification or council that we're gonna be delivering through UH Manoa outreach college It's for building operators maintenance technicians engineers anybody who is in working in facilities and maintaining buildings It's to build their skills and keep them up-to-date on efficient equipment. So we're gonna be offering it It's a seven module course. So it's the total of 56 hours But for the fall semester, so that's eight hours per module, right? So it's a full day. You are Thursday's sprinkled between September 15th and December 15th Okay, that's one like four months course. Yes serious. Yes serious. It is serious All about energy and it's all about energy equipment in buildings, right? Energy efficiency specifically what kind of buildings? So any sort of large buildings where there's going to be chillers different equipment? Lighting that you have to maintain. So it's a very hands-on course taught by different facility are different energy professionals in the industry Yeah, so it is an expensive course. It's $1,600 per student however, however, Hawaii energy sees the value in this and is going to be subsidizing $1,400 $1,600 right for qualified participants. So what's a qualified participant? It's somebody who has experience and is working in Hawaii on buildings and such as building operators maintenance workers electricians anybody who can have an impact with this and this would make that Individual more valuable to his employer. Absolutely. Yep And because it's a certification program they can put those letters after their name as well You know a thing about it is that this this saves the building money Absolutely also saves the tenants money to the extent that's a pass through so, you know You haven't kind of go going both ways right tenants and the building the owner of the building is happy to have Somebody qualified in building energy efficiency and he's more likely to hire that person Then a person who doesn't who hasn't been through the course right and I would hope that some of the Participants would actually take some of these teachings and translate them into their home as well and save energy Yeah, sure, so I mean it's I mean the technology is moving very quickly right and These guys have to keep up with that a lot of them have been in these jobs for a long time They may not have continuing engineering education This is a good idea to provide that for them absolutely absolutely and we usually offer it once per year So how how if you wanted to take part in this what would you need to do if anybody wants to apply? you go to Hawaii energy comm and Go under education and professionals and you're going to be able to it'll pop up on your screen the application Please apply please apply August 31st. Oh Yeah, that's a week away. It's coming up. Don't fool around. It's a very short application process Okay, does it explain online like when the courses will it does yep happen They're every Thursday starting that September 15th, and it'll tell the exact dates. Okay. Yeah. Thank you Okay, my reaction is good idea good program 200 bucks helps your career good and hopefully is um Hopefully their employers will see the value in it and help to subsidize them further. I'm sure they will We want to build a workforce an engineering force in Hawaii that is Experienced and educated in this area. Absolutely good for everybody. Thank you. Chelsea harder. Thank you so much You came down and made our lives happy today. We're so happy. We're gonna take a break. Thank you Thank you, Jay Aloha, I'm Kirsten Baumgart Turner, and I'm fortunate to be able to host Sustainable Hawaii at think tech Hawaii calm. 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Let me say that again Executive director of Kanu Hawaii, which is a really splendid job to have I like to have your job If you like to have her job Look at Kanu Hawaii dot or g but don't take my job So you won this award this fabulous award it's on the table We should take a close-up of that award I Want an award just like this one with Kanu Hawaii's name on it Okay yeah, for the work that we do on social media and zippies to inform Hundreds of thousands of people across Hawaii about energy efficiency very important So this is this was an award presented to you in front of hundreds of people at the Hawaii energy Clean energy day By Governor E. Gay and Sharon Moriwaki That's really something So what was the project? Can you give us a praisey on the project that led to this this award? Yeah, so Hawaii energy with their funds and their vision they allowed us and requested that we Communicate to people like I said across the state on energy efficiency But in a way that's relatable accessible and relevant to people So using local images and local language just letting people know how they can make Adjustments in their home to save energy. So we posted Over 80 posts on Facebook. We got about six hundred views of these posts and 24 said the right thing and 24,000 engagement so people are actually clicking and sharing our information and so that's pretty important that we got 24,000 engagements across the state around energy efficiency. How did you what what magic language to We just made sure that it just sounded like it was from Hawaii that it was for Hawaii by Hawaii And it really related to people they were able to relate to the information and like I said They wanted to share it and we had this really cute character will the cat And he's doing fun cute things and saving energy and people like that And we're just setting that baseline of vocabulary and literacy. Yeah. Yeah important But why why is it important that people out there only Facebook people what not know about clean energy and energy efficiency? Well, I think as you know a lot of is changing in the energy world and the energy landscape And it's changing pretty quickly And we want to make sure that the people who could benefit most from energy efficiency and conservation The people really struggling to pay their electric bills are not left behind People who cannot upgrade to solar or buy an electric vehicle that they have the resources and the empowerment to Change their consumption and their behavior patterns And like I said at the very least just get that literacy and vocabulary So that they can take that knowledge and share that with other people either in their office or other people that they live with To kind of just get that conversation started Do you get feedback from them on how much they saved from a given bill of which was much too much to Definitely, and we haven't necessarily gotten numbers But we've certainly gotten people telling us that they were able to save on their water bills and their electric bills because of the Information that we gave them which we absolutely love to hear We've also heard that people take this information to their community associations and housing associations as well as on their workplace We found that engineers who wanted to upgrade Their light fixtures when more of their workplace was educated on the importance of that They were able to get that project approved faster. So everyone knew Chelsea harder was talking about how the lessons that she gives to the Building engineers and operators would filter to them at home now You're talking about how the people at home get these lessons from you and that filters to their places of employment Exactly. Hawaii energy is everywhere. We want to make sure that everyone has this sort of basic knowledge. Could you repeat that? We're teaching people how to conserve and how to save like I said take control and empowerment over their consumption Which I think a lot of people don't realize they have I think they think their electric bill is what it is and they can't do anything about it And we've been able to show them that they can't that's great So this award means something in the sense that it it tells you that the energy world is aware of what you're doing And acknowledges your efforts and success of your program. It's pretty good. You must be a little bit happy about it Yes, now we're thrilled. It's such a huge honor. We really appreciate it. That was a great meeting last week, too Yes, it was so tell us on just one last thing tell us about Kanu What is kind of who I do what kind of other projects you get involved into, you know, build resilience into our community? Yeah, so we are a local sustainability nonprofit And so what that means is we work on local food issues as well as energy independence Civic engagement and waste reduction So a lot of different topics and figuring out how people can make small adjustments and changes and commitments in their own life And how we can then come together and lower barriers for everyone else One of my favorite examples is we were trying to increase local food Consumption and so one thing that we worked on was getting EBT or SNAP benefits accepted at farmers markets So that's the food stamps. Oh, okay. Okay. Sorry. Yeah No, if they're accepted at farmers markets and allows more people to have access to local food Which can be sometimes expensive so making sure that these programs which can be sometimes out of reach for people We find ways to get them in reach If I didn't mention it, Kanu was a fabulous organization Existed for must be ten years almost, huh? And it has reached out into the community in so many ways and done so many good things So it's great to meet you. I mean, I might be less weak But it's it's great to see you get this award and we wish you well in every particular here Thank you so much for having me. Let's see what Ray has to say about all that Well, I just wanted to say, you know Kanu has reached out To people that Hawaii energy couldn't reach otherwise it they had already developed Relationships with people and programs that reached out in and we're able to get people to come Do things and so this was a natural for Hawaii energy when it started looking at who's who's left out of the mix We've got the big buildings taken care of we're doing all the things for government But at the end of the day, we realized that we had to touch everybody because everybody uses electricity and they can Learn a lot about efficiency. So Kanu has really helped with that end of the the effort And I want to make sure I don't leave out zippies They also helped us by putting some energy tips on their keiki menus and tray liners and we were able to reach a 129,000 Customers across all of Zippy's stores huge huge. Yeah, just have some energy efficiency on their table while they're enjoying their zippy's dinner Well, thank you. Nicole Brody executive director of Kanu Hawaii Donald RG. Yes. Thank you so much. Thank you Michael University of Hawaii football team under Rolovich is gonna kick butt this season In case you didn't understand me University of Hawaii football team is gonna kick butt under Rolovich this season So be sure to follow us on think tech Hawaii and you watch it up. I'll be at every game and remember aloha Aloha, this is Maria Mera and I'm here to invite you to my bilingual so Viva Hawaii and think tech Hawaii every other Monday at 3 p.m We're here to inform motivate and entertain you join us Hola, I'm Maria Mera y estoy aquí para invitaros a miso bilingüe Viva Hawaii and think tech Hawaii Ka dos lunes a las 3 de la tarde. Estamos aquí para informaros motivaros y entreteneros apuntaros Welcome to think tech Hawaii dot com. 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I host a show called health care in Hawaii here on think tech We get together once a week or sometimes Twice a month depends when we're busy We get together less often, but we love to see you here to talk about the preeminent health care issues in our state Our programs very very widely. We talked about economics. We talked about health care. We talked about social issues on this program Thanks for joining us Here's the deal I'm Jay Fidel on the host of Hawaii the state of clean energy which is the energy policy forums program on Wednesday That's how we call Wednesday energy Wednesday. We call it energy Wednesday every Wednesday. Are you surprised? Okay, and we and we try to get guys like Jim Albers here from Hawaiian Electric who can tell us what's really going on and energy We want to be informed. It's so important. It's the most important initiative in our state clean energy is major Okay, and that's how we cover it on this show. That's the deal. What do you think Sharon? I think that's great That's why we're here every Wednesday from four to five and we hope you all join us so we can hear people like Jim Coming on our show and co-host Ray Starley from Hawaii energy. Okay, Jim. You've been here today. You've seen this you heard what she said What do you think? We're back. We're live. We're here in Hawaii the state of clean energy. You're talking about Transforming transformative awards for clean energy. These were awarded at the Hawaii clean energy day program on August 16th last week and among them Okay, we not only had Kanu Hawaii a minute ago, but we have if ma and that stands for the International Facilities Management Association. We have two of the most famous members of it ma right here Less and Jen Taniyama. Thank you for coming down you guys You're welcome and you've been walking around like a foot over the ground now for the last week or so with your award Which is here on the table Yeah, what kind of experience did you have when you received this award? I thought I saw you smiling It was an amazing moment. Yeah, we received it from the governor. Yeah, that was something. Yeah, I'm Sharon Moriwaki In that order Okay, so what it was it for was it can you talk about your project that you know yielded this award for you? Yes, basically We we together with the University of Hawaii developed a four-year degree program in facilities management We Jen and I as well as the rest of the members and core of if ma Hawaii felt there was a little hole in the industry That wasn't fulfilled and that is as technology grew as you just alluded to a few minutes ago The people behind it aren't keeping up so VOC programs that Chelsea talked about is a great program for those Operators, but we need the management to keep up with the technologies that are evolving within facilities Yeah, absolutely and every time they build a new building with so many new technologies that go into it So you you have to teach an old horse new tricks, don't you? Well, it's you know like the iPhone 6 versus the flip phone, you know, yeah, there's a little learning curve So are you dedicated to efficiency or are you talking about all aspects of technology in this program? Yes? Yes? Yes, yes, I got my absolutely Absolutely, okay, Jen. How much of what less said do you agree with? 100% I Could have said 125 Right how much of it when he said you agree with well, I've worked with less before and he's pretty good at what he does especially in the efficiency and building operator areas, so I believe Almost a hundred percent of what he says, you know, we have to build a Workforce at every level doing everything from construction to building management Which is Akamai about clean energy we have to have an entire community Transformation and understanding so everybody knows not only knows But they're sensitive to it and they're wedded to it and they apply it in their daily jobs. That's what you guys have been doing Yes, well, he he designs two million three million five million dollar Systems and they're all computer operated And the guy with the rag in his back pocket might not be so savvy on computers and he might Might just keep things running because that's what his boss says but when the boss says I want energy efficiency He doesn't know how to achieve it. Yes. It's an attitudinal thing So that that manager or engineer has to he has to be a self-starter He has to come into work every day thinking how am I going to make things more efficient? Well, I believe like on the facility management level That expertise has to be Given a little boost has to rise Because how is he going to set that example for the rest of his staff? You know, we have the boc programs That's all well and good But if there isn't enough buy-in at management level, we got a problem. Yeah. Yeah So the building managers association Boma they involved with you and Niope and all those Boma is a staunch supporter of us along with other organizations like ashris ashris the Engineers then design air conditioning and we got even the unions involved with us in collaboration You need to do that. Yeah, absolutely. If you get them to buy in then everything gets easier on the other end Yeah, so so what is the extent of the program right now? And what do you think turn the energy policy forum in your direction? What what you know What made them give you the award exactly? I think it's because What he designs they don't know how to operate after it and as he goes back years later He has to recommission Everything all over again to bring back the energy efficiency. Yeah, this way you do it in advance instead It's this way you start out on the right place It teaches him how the right way to begin within college And I think it's something like when I was talking with Sharon well prior to this It's that aha moment. Yeah, when you realize That's right. We want that technical building. We want that intelligent building We want building automation But someone has to take care of it in Jesus. Who's training them? Yeah, I mean, are they trainable or are there? 40 50-year-old people on the Eve of retirement. Yeah Well, you know people assume that You know somebody who's been in in around buildings their whole career. They know this by some osmotic process But they don't you actually have to teach technology. Absolutely Yeah, and if my foundation is actually the accrediting body for this program Interesting. Okay. So there's a direct tie, you know how we brought it to the program and They have experienced with a number of colleges. There are nine prior to the University of Hawaii West Well, Hawaii is number 10. There's only 10 of these back lower degree programs throughout the United States You think they'll come out here and join the program from other states Well strategically just like pro-haber. We're in the middle of the Pacific I think we're ideal for not only the West Coast Not for Asia. Yes. And by the way, Tokai University is right there on universities, right? They're building a building, aren't they? They're operating. They're already finished. Yes, and they have agreements in place. Yeah So you're West Oahu is really coming coming of age now, huh? Things are happening. Yes I'd like to talk a little bit about what we want to do from now. I mean, please We got this wonderful award and I And Jan we dedicate that to the volunteers that made it all happen because It's really nice for a volunteer organization to get recognized for the hard work. We did met is a volunteer organization 100% that's great. Yeah, and we all have other day jobs and all time spent is purely After hours and middle of the night and on weekends and it's pretty amazing. So labor of love I know it truly is but you know Going forward now what? We're we're now talking Come this fall later this fall two things are going to happen We're going to have the SFP program and it's been funded by Ingersoll ran Foundation very nice and we're hoping to have more contributions from Ingersoll ran So that's really fun the other thing we're looking at is developing an organization where we're going to be meeting with the schools the The people that bring students from the high schools into the college programs the counselors because we need to feed into the program Yeah, so you want to tell them about it in advance when you get them on board early This makes for a better career. It's the same thing with Chelsea Hutter's program in the sense that you take this course you are worth some money in the marketplace Exactly, you're not only here, but elsewhere actually now that I mentioned it the other good thing is we we've done some good educational programs ourselves So we're teaching today's operators and facility managers on fundamentals and really technical areas of facility management like Building automation and control how to read it. How do we even design it how to modify it? We're looking at Solar we're talking about solar and power quality because all of this technology does affect our grid But it can be daunting if you don't know about it. It's very daunting Yeah, it's and you can't make a mistake because there's a lot of money involved These investments are not small investments if you leave them, you know, if you don't make the right analysis You make a mistake. You're wasting a lot of money So you have to be trained and then the real estate sector expects their facility people to understand and know what to do Yeah, and and that's pretty spooky Okay, it's almost time for you to make your summary remarks ray. What have we learned today? Where are we going from here? Well, I think we've learned that Efficiency across the board takes a lot of different people aiming at different things to make it all happen So you've got people working like Kanu with with people in residential areas and apartments learning how to be Efficient and then you've got the the big buildings That if ma is involved in the building off operators course that Chelsea was promoting It's a it's something that has to happen across the board in order to be effective and and we're very fortunate to have less and Jan working on this from the higher level that the building operators Baccalaureate degree that is sort of the crowning blow or the crowning top of what needs to happen and Less has taken all the experience that he has And pushed it and it wouldn't have happened without these two Actually making it happen It's it's one of those things where there has to be somebody who just won't stop Until they get where they want to go and that's what has happened here And that's why the award was given to if ma but these were the guys leading the charge a lot of good people And if my pushing as well, but it took some crazy people to say we're just not going to quit till we get it done Yeah, and so congratulations. Congratulations you guys. It's transformative and you were involved in the transformation of Hawaii How do you feel about that? Fantastic, I think I would really be remiss without saying there's three more crazy people as a part of this group That had the guts to join us in all travels and Charles lovelace the whole president. He's Committed to his job, but also committed to us We have Don Connell or sterile air that there are people put UV lights in hospitals So that we get rid of some of the staff. Yes. Yeah, and we have I think you know Derek Sonoda He's a star that's right Derek was part of the effort as well. Yes Congratulations. Thank you less. Thank you. Chan the mr. And mrs. Tanya For coming down for being involved in this and congratulations on your own. Thank you