 Hello. Hello. So I like is. Is this one that I thought you had said you wouldn't be able to attend are we disrupting you from. For a second. Okay, got it. So we will plan to discuss J. So to be right. I think that was on the list. Yes. I've got to look at the agenda. Sorry. I haven't, I haven't opened the agenda yet. Do you have an update from Dan and Tara from Google on this as well. So only if you're unable to attend is it sensible for us to discuss Google summer of code today should we delay the discussion for another time. Well, if you want to discuss that I will stay. Okay. All right. Thank you. Helpful. Right now. Another on other fronts. Okay. So want me to share the share the notes as a screen or do we want to. Oh, I'm on the host. Maybe I should make you the host mark. Hey, hello everybody. That would be fine if you find if you need to drop off. Yeah. Okay, so you've got the powers. Can everybody hear me okay. Thank you. So how about, should we assemble the agenda. I'm going to go ahead and share my screen and we can start working on assembling the agenda and share this screen. Got it. You should see a copy of the agenda. Yes, we can. Okay, super. So topics. Got Google summer of code 2021 planning. Good one to have discuss while all legs available for us. Other topics that we need to discuss live stream sessions with Darren Pope is that one that Alyssa you'd like to discuss. Promoting, et cetera. Any other topics that need to be on the agenda for today. I think I was just going to give a heads up about the, the Jenkins is the way ebook. Oh, yes. All right. Boston as well. Boston. Okay, good. All right. Any other items that we need to put on the agenda. And then for me, just the annual report reminder. All right. Okay, so let's put that CDF and your report. Oh, like, do we need anything on the, we had discussed at the end of your blog post for the Jenkins project already handled or the one we discussed yesterday, not handled. So, yes, and so you have market, it would be nice to discuss. Great. Okay, so how about just some cup again. Perfect. Yeah. All right. Hey, so shall we talk to Google summer of code 2021 planning first. Yeah, so I brought this up at the TOC meeting last week. And so Dan Lawrence and Tara Hernandez are both Google employees and also Tara was involved in in Google summer code as an admin last year. So Dan reached out to them about us applying under one application versus multiple. So it looks like they're, they are willing to honor all of the slots that they've given Jenkins in the past. We just have to make a note. Under the anything else section that CDF like we are going to be including Jenkins and Jenkins X under us under this application to remind them, you know, of the allocation that normally Jenkins gets. Yeah, to be seen whether we can ask for this location, because we still to prepare this approach ideas and to on board mentors. Right. Okay, good but but Jackie I think what Jacqueline what you were saying is that there was a risk previously that Google summer of code might see CDF and say hey you haven't had a large number of projects before. Jenkins has a bunch of project ideas and a bunch of mentors ready and they said no we won't give them to you. And what you learned from Tara and from from Dan was they will honor that so long as we remind them. Yes, exactly in our inner application so excellent. Okay. Question about doing this under the CDF org is who will handle actual org admin duties. I don't know we'll have to ask somebody to take this on last year it was also Tara so we can we can also ask her if she'd like to do that again. So, for Jenkins, we have three contributors who really much and can be important means it's a car and me and market. I'm not sure what is our total capacity would be because everyone has other commitments as well. So should we should should I say here in the notes all like have have been or willing to or have been org admins in the past. I think I remember Cara saying that she would be happy to be like an org admin for the Jenkins and Jenkins X. And then I think last year. On the driver's side, it was Jithin who participated and I believe from the spinnaker side, it was Roslyn. I'm sorry. I interrupted. No, please finish I interrupted. Yeah, so these individuals. Will they actually be org admins or mentors. Okay, sorry. I believe they were mentors and I believe Tara was actually the one that was the org admin for the CDF. I think Tracee. You're looking to call correctly and me as a backup. So, I definitely remember that we used to all fight for admin slots. I can definitely I can org admin but I would like to know who the other org admins are going to be that will. I don't know what to say this but I'm going to just say it straight that'll that'll influence my decision whether I can do it or not, depending on who's doing it. Yeah, I don't think that's defined yet Marty. Okay. So are there are there. We know about the need for project ideas. The request has been launched. Yesterday. It needs more promotion is that. There's a lot of channels that Jacqueline or others could be acting as voice for we we tweeted about it yesterday we. We use LinkedIn. Mark, I also included it in the continuous information newsletter. And I think this, I think I saw the blog yesterday so I can always send it over to Roxanne or newsletter editor and also include it in the CDF newsletter that goes out in January. Jackie, would it be worthwhile to do a to cross post the blog and CDF blog. Yeah, yeah, I can make that submission. Yeah, I can just send it to Roxanne. I'll just send her the link and ask her to cross post and to also include it in the newsletter for next month as well. Okay, so is it Roxanne that is handling the blog post for CDF. Yeah, the blog post and the newsletter yes. Okay. And now now for the larger CDF, I guess, I guess this is Jenkins advocacy I don't have to worry about the larger CDF promotion, Jacqueline I assume you'll take care of that. Yeah, I've been, you know, I've been going around to the TOC into other meetings and letting them know about this and, you know, asking people to just also figure out what they want to do for for Google summer code. So people are aware like the stakeholders from last year are aware. I think I just have to keep pushing on to see if they're going to do anything about it and so I just, yeah, I just don't have an update on that. I haven't heard. Are there other questions relative to whether we whether the Jenkins project works under the umbrella of CDF or not funds was one that we had a discuss discussion on our payment management last time. Is that something that needs further discussion today. Not from my side. So, so budgeting. I think we can figure it out. Okay, all right. It's not an immediate issue. Good. Okay, so we have number of students we can decide how this particular money distributed quite easily. Then there are travel grants. I'm not sure that they will be pleased to please mentor summit next year. Yeah, anyway, it's definitely something. Great. Excellent. Okay. All right, so we know about the need for mentors and that's part of the part of the launch that happened yesterday. Any other topics on Google summer of code. Okay, next topic then live stream sessions with Darren Pope. So maybe you could highlight for us what, what this is and if, if you're not comfortable, I can certainly describe it but share with us what what's happening here and how it can and how it can and does help. How you're muted. Sorry about that. So, thank you, Mark. So feel free to jump in and add anything you think I might be missing Mark. But, so Darren Pope is a developer advocate for a cloud beast. And he has started a channel right now it's a live stream channel and the first one I think was the first one that he did or at least it's the first one that I was aware of is was the one that he did with Mark. And it was talking about the LTS. Mark is currently on YouTube at the moment. And on that video Mark went through a lot of really good information about LTS and some of its status updates. So what I did last night was I added it to the continuous information newsletter because I was working on it last night. I also thought might be good for us to include it in the CDF site. So what I want to do is so it's a good video wanted to see if I will work with Darren to see if we can get a blog out of it. And then we, we post that on CDF as well to promote it. And then there was another video that I found out last night was Darren interviewed Marky and Gavin as the newest members of the governance board. So I also added that to the continuous information newsletter. But it might be worthwhile to to cross post that to or get that information on CDF if Jackie thinks it's appropriate or if it's too much. It's fine too. Yeah, I think just send it to Ruta Roxy and since she's the one managing the newsletter and the blog. And then if she has any, you know, concerns she'll raise it to Tracy. So, yeah, it should be fine. Okay. Jackie, any, any feedback from you how did the session go for you was it net positive net negative insight. I thought it was, I thought it was net positive I really liked his format. It's very free flowing, but you kind of have bullet points, and he'll let you know how he's leading into a bullet point. So they'll be like banter and, and then you know you're going to get into a bullet point because he'll use a certain word. I liked it so well I told him that hey anytime you ever want me back I'll be back. He actually sent me an email and I'll be going on next week as a plugin maintainer and talking about plugin maintainers go so I really enjoyed it. So maybe that'll be a good opportunity to get more plugin content maintainers in the future. Yeah, that was the that was kind of the idea was to, we're going to highlight a series of plugins that are up for adoption. So maybe generating some interest in that I really, I really thought it was a, the format's good and I think we can really utilize what this is. Great. Thanks. So any questions from the group to Alyssa or to others about about this concept or how it's how it's working. Okay. Anything else from you Alyssa before we go on to next topic. I think I'm good. Thank you. All right. The Jenkins end of your blog post. So, I think this was one where Markey you and Oleg are working it together or how about you share for us, the status of things that we coordinate. Yeah, the, I'm still working on a document I got sick a little bit yesterday so I wasn't able to do it I'm hoping to have the Google Doc out this weekend. And then we'll get that the goal would be to Oleg would you say to have this published by before Christmas. So like before next week. Oh, I mark it looks like we lost Oleg he just dropped off. I think the goal is a good. Oh, no, I hadn't. Last year we published actually after January one. So, so before Christmas sounds really great, potentially a little aggressive. Okay, we that was just something we were just kind of throwing around so if we wanted to sheet for the, the, I think the fourth of January is kind of when everybody comes back from holiday. And I don't want to buy a shoe in terms of, of what you choose as your publication date you and you and Oleg can work it out whatever whatever you prefer this is, it was a very successful blog post last year and I, I think it's a great story to tell again this year. Yep. So I will, I'm going to tentatively shoot for the before Christmas. That'll be a tentative, but the stretch will be for the fourth of January. Okay. Great. Thank you. Anything else on the end of your blog post. I assume that you're taking you'll accept suggestions and ideas and topics. Yeah, when I send out the, I'll send out the Google doc, it'll probably go out this weekend. And then, and I'll put that in the advocacy mailing list so people can drop comments and sort of make it organic. Great. Okay. And we got Oleg back. Sorry, I remember that it was exactly this topic. So yesterday, we agreed that we'll sync up with your marquee and started this Google doc. So, yeah, this weekend. Yeah, yeah, my goal is to have the Google doc out this weekend, hopefully Saturday. And I was, I was going to try to hope that we could get this out for before Christmas. And that might be, that's my goal. But if not, I was thinking the next day would be the early January, like maybe the fourth of January is when everybody comes back tomorrow. So usually we publish it in the January. Mm hmm. But yeah, if you get it before Christmas, it would be awesome. Great. Anything else on the end of your blog post anything there Oleg that you need to coordinate or any concerns. We just need to get started and put some content. Excellent. Super. Thank you, Marki for leading it. Thanks a bunch. Thanks, Mark. So, Jacqueline, CDF annual report. Yeah, so I think I think I'll be good then if if Marki's because most of the time I just pull information from the end of your blog. So I think that will be good I can just take stuff from that that Marki puts together. So for the CDF report, Jackie, I'm going to actually send you the end of your blog report will have what I'm also going to send you separately which will just be kind of like what we used last year. It's kind of like the stats of the project. Yeah, that works. We'll also want to link back to your blog as well. Okay. Anything else on the CDF annual report you want to share the dates again just to remind everybody timeline. Yes, so our goal is to publish the week of January 18 through the 22nd. And then for projects, we gave them a deadline of, I think, January 13 to get all of their data points and blogs and all that kind of stuff done. So yeah, those are those are the two, two big ones for for projects. Excellent. All right, anything else Jack. I'm okay. Okay. Alyssa Jenkins is the way ebook status. Right. Okay, so I'm off mute mute. Okay. So the link in the chat window so that is the discussion that we've had with the developer mailing list and mark I'm not sure if you're able to pull it up but the initial the original email shows the a version of the ebook. So, basically, I went to the governance board yesterday asking if we if they would like to have their names in the under as the signers of the this letter. Oleg rightfully suggested it should be my name but I would also like to add and and or the advocacy and outreach sick. So I'm going to move forward with this draft. Based on some of the edits that Mark and Oleg has suggested previously, and then instead of the Jenkins project where Mark has highlighted, I will have Alyssa tongue as events officer for 2020, and the advocacy and outreach sick. If that's okay. I'm a person. Okay. This looks really good Alyssa. Great. Thank you. Yeah, I'll let me know when it's final so then I can tell Roxanne and she can add it to our website somewhere. Perfect. That would be great. Thank you Jackie. And that's it for me. Easy one. Great. Thank you. All right, Mark, you I think you had brought foster 2021 is a topic. Want to lead that discussion. Yes. We'll be having a Jenkins table. Jackie, I need to get with you at maybe some point this week or early next week to make sure that I'm in coordination with the CDF for that. I. Yeah, I need so yeah we should think is we haven't done anything for FOS dumb yet and I know. Yeah, I'm so out of the loop on that one. So I'll ask also Tracy. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just curious. I thought that somebody had gotten like a dev room already. Jenkins does have the, the CI CB. Yeah. Olivier will be doing that. Yeah. Alyssa shared documents with me to go out like how what we did last year to set it up. So that's what I was going to meet with you. I just haven't had a chance to actually tell you so. I'm telling you. So the next two weeks, we are out. We're taking some time off. But if you want to catch me there today or tomorrow, my calendar is up to date. Awesome. So yeah, just let me or if we can wait till the, like beginning in a new year on the fourth, let me know. Yeah, I'll get with you probably tomorrow. Okay. Thank you. Jackie, I think I sent Markey if I'm not mistaken. Collateral that that you, what you use at the booth last year. So it might be just reviewing that and see if you want to update it and then have that available for download. Yeah. Yeah. That would be great. Yeah, I'll forward to you what I sent. Markey. Super. Thank you. Last item I had was to remind that we agreed last time that we would cancel the cancel the December 31 meeting. Any objections to continuing if that plan that December 31, we won't meet. I'm a plus one. Me too. Yeah, next meeting is then whatever that date is in January, looking to see so it would be. Yeah, January seven. Thank you. Something like something like that. And I apologize. I will be, I will miss that meeting. Out for a personal adventure that day. Is it your birthday. No, no, it's nothing, nothing that cool. You're turning 24. That's right. That's right. And I tell my children that all the time turning 24. Yeah. You don't look a day over 23 to me. Keep it up. That's the way. Flatten flattery and recorded. I like that. Okay. Any other topics before we close this meeting. Okay. Actually, Mark, I have one. So I have on my calendar as December 20. December 28th is when we need to submit. Some kind of Jenkins content to Roxanne to include in the CDF newsletter. And that's for the January newsletter. Yeah, the project updates a project highlight. And so we kind of missed the vote last time when the last newsletter, but so I have it on my calendar. What was that Oleg. Yeah, maybe there are perils threads, but then Lawrence requests. The updates and the last months I definitely sent one. Yeah. Okay. So I want, I just wanted to make sure that I have it on my calendar and that I have it on my calendar. And I also want to make sure that I have it on my calendar. So it's my responsibility to, to get something over there. I mean, something needy, what, whatever it is that we want to highlight for that month. So just want to give a heads up that I'll be reaching out or at least I'll do an email, just to remind folks what we want. What do we want to highlight for the month. For from Jenkins. Okay. Jenkins has a table and there's a room, all that kind of stuff. Yeah. I think, well, I know that for at least in the continuous information newsletter, we have foster under the event section. Okay. Yeah. I just was saying, like maybe a line that says, like, Jenkins is going to participate in that. And then we, we also add like the link to foster them in the event section. Oh, okay. February 6th through the seventh. And I don't know if, if we'll publish the next edition of the, of the February newsletter in time to also capture that highlight. So that's also the only reason why I brought that up. Yeah. No, that's a good point. I'll work with Roxanne to make sure it's included. Yeah. So is it for my education, is that a place where we highlight information that we'd previously posted in blog posts. Blog post summaries go into that? What sorts of things have you done in the past? Oh, like when you've written that, or is that something we, somebody else writes and I just am not aware of it. So for status updates, it's usually something like five lines, maybe a bit more of these key updates over the months. I'm going to drop also like last, the last newsletter edition and then I'll also add. Yeah, it's. Yeah, I think December was the second time we did it and then November was the first time we did it. So here are two examples of how, what we've collected under these. Program updates or project updates, excuse me. Yeah. Project updates. There we go. Got it. Okay. All right. So it was really short last. Why did it pop up my email? Excuse me. I should not click links when I'm live recording. Should I? That's great. Okay. Yeah. So, and then on the, on the November edition, we highlighted all of the, for example, the 2020 elections committee announcement. So yeah, I think it's, it's a combo of things that we, that you can include. Got it. All right. Jackie, this page, the one that you just said, well, the one that Mark is showing right now, it kind of looks like what we, we receive in the newsletter and the email. It is. So basically we're sending out the newsletter over email first, and then we have the archive as a webpage. So Alyssa, I thought, I thought one of the, one of the challenges or one of the concerns had been, Hey, we want to be above the fold when we can, because we're a big part of CDF. Yeah. Yeah. So Jenkins, we feel that Jenkins is a very big part of CDF. And so Mark, if you go back to the other page, so I guess I was referring to the actual newsletter that, that most of us saw in our email. And it, so in one of these boxes, these black boxes, there weren't anything that was on Jenkins. And so that was a concern that was raised. And so I need to make sure. Yeah. So are you talking about the CDF newsletter specifically, Alyssa? Okay. So the thing is every month we have its theme based. So the, what Roxanne's been doing the past few months on, on the, on the newsletter is based on that theme. She took sessions from CD con and turned them into blogs. Okay. So if, you know, if, if Jenkins is in part of the theme or didn't have content, that is, that's why it's not featured there. So like last week, it was like CD and action. And so we just took from content that existed and converted it into blogs. Okay. Yeah. Okay. That's good to know. Thank you. Yeah, but I did give Roxanne a heads up that going forward that, you know, like I said, I have her deadline on my calendar. So I'll work directly with her just to make sure that we either, either we have something on there or we don't. Yeah. So the, and then the project updates is going to be a static part of the newsletter moving forward as well. So I know Dan Lawrence also bugs the TOC to get updates from the community. So, but yeah, I think that the more updates that you have, I think the better. Okay. So, so Alyssa, it feels like they're the. You, we may benefit by you bringing to us what the theme is that Roxanne's working on for the next newsletter. If she's selected that, and we can be thinking around how do we fit something into that theme? How do we answer that address that theme? Yeah. Me. Jackie, are there themes defined in advance? How far? Yes. Yes, they are. Let me, I was just going to pull up the newsletter repo. Yeah. Here you go. Yeah. So everything is outlined there. Right. That's great. Thanks, Jackie. Yeah. Yeah. So if the, I'll ask her to a reminder. I think they, she's just working with Tracy Miranda right now. I'm defining what next year's topics are going to be, but once she has all of that, she's got up to February. But yeah. Perfect. Thank you. All right. Anything else on the. CBF newsletter. Alyssa or Jackie. I'm good. Okay. Any other topics. We're good. All right. Thanks everybody. I will, I will end the meeting then and post the recording shortly. Happy holidays, everyone. Happy holidays, everybody.