 Do you have a tendency to overdo it and over-train and is that what's getting in your way of getting an amazing body and great results? You're gonna love this our first caller is Lauren from New Jersey. Lauren. How's it going? Hey guys, how are you good? What's happening good? What what an honor it is to be here with you today This is totally inspiring for me. Oh, thank you. All right So I kind of have to a two-part question First part is I'm actually just finishing up maps split By the way, I loved it. I totally appreciate The effort you guys put in sequencing the exercise. I had done splits before I had never done anything like this that had such You know precise phasing I love the process of it too. So that was awesome and And you know following through with the step counts in each phase and then getting Progressively bigger each time I'm not gonna lie toward the end It was a real challenge to complete it, but I'm proud to say that I completed every workout I hit every step count and I'm feeling really good. I'm just wondering where to go from here. So That I am someone who normally works out seven days a week I have a tendency to over train and over do it, but after doing your program was the most comprehensive program I've ever done I'm just not sure where to go from here. Certainly. I upped my activity level with it Toward the end and I know that for me that that's not going to be sustainable long term And I had really good progress with strength gains. So I'm kind of wondering Where do I go from here? I've heard you guys always preach that less is more You know training the three days a week full body I feel like that would be a lot less than what I'm coming from and I'm just kind of concerned about losing strength And losing progress Okay, Lauren now in your in your question that you sent in you also said you're recovering cardio addict and you Admittedly have a tendency to over train, which I would have guessed because the first program that you pick from us First yeah, that's one of our highest volume like kind of bodybuilder style workout programs So do you want the advice that's the best for you or do you want the advice that you want to hear? I? know Really, I think I really need some tough love from you To hear what you know to hear what what I need Okay, you know to kind of move forward. All right. All right. Here's some tough love Okay, if you're gonna do what I tell you okay if you're gonna do exactly what I tell you I want you to do math maps performance. You've done maps split It's time to move into a program that trains different planes of movement that works on mobility Don't worry. You're gonna still get strong. You're still gonna build muscle. Here's the best part You can do maps performance six or seven days a week So three days a week are the resistance training days the other days are mobility sessions And if you like movement and athleticism You'll love the mobility sessions. There's still somewhat of a workout. It's much less intense But they're gonna improve your mobility and your ability to just connect To different movement and they're gonna help facilitate recovery. I think that's gonna be the best Next step because you just you're I mean map split is literally I mean one of our most advanced bodybuilder Volume-based workout program. So I'm not gonna put you in another Program that's similar maps on a ball it would be great to but I think because you just did split I think performance is gonna benefit your body so much And if you trust what I'm saying and you just do it and don't judge the process but trust the process You will be very very happy with the results you get from that program I'd like to I would have liked to have seen her do anabolic then performance But I can I can concede to performance. I mean, I think I think performance is going to tremendously benefit her But I think what would be best for her her body her personality type and the things that she tends to do Would be to get her out of that you could make the argument that it it's Gonna be very difficult For her mentally to make that shift But personally I would love to see anabolic then performance then aesthetic and then work your way back to a strong or a split Type of a routine that yeah, I I agree. I do like that that suggestion I think that that's probably the best but it will be mentally Difficult again to to make that dramatic shift because you're gonna be learning a lot of Moves and things that probably you're not very familiar with so, you know stick with it and stick to the program and plan as As much as possible and trust it It's gonna be outside your comfort zone for sure and not that it's not gonna be fun It's just you know, look at it as a totally new thing that you're you're there to kind of educate your body And go through the process and the volume and mass performance is really appropriate It's not a super ridiculous high-volume program But it's not super low either though it isn't but the mobility sessions are good and you know what you're buying Well, here's what I forgot to add this too because Lauren wrote in her question and I read your question You didn't just go into map split from beginner. You were doing Mike Matthews You know split routine before you went into that, right? Yeah So I kind of first got into you know I first started kind of seeing the light of resistance training And started doing far less cardio a couple of years ago and I found Mike Matthews thinner than you're stronger I was doing his five-day split program, which was great and knowing my personality I turned it into a seven-day program. Yeah, and then at a certain point I just frankly got a little bored and I and I stopped seeing progress and I was a little frustrated So that's when I found that yeah And with with his pro because I know his program very well Mike's a good friend of ours great guy Really smart guy in his program places a heavy emphasis on you know bench presses and rows and overhead presses So that's why you went to perform. Yeah, and then he's and then she went to split which is bodybuilder It's also very sad. So I see where you're going with that. Okay. I see you're going that takes it because you're She's gonna see a lot of she just sees some significant progress because of that where maybe she'd see a little less progress going to Anabolic yes, it's similar enough even though it's different. Holy new stimulus But okay that being said then this is what I would love to see then I would love to see performance right now Then to anabolic. Yeah, and then when you go into anabolic, I would actually Use the mobile mobility sessions from performance and add them to my trigger days Yeah, so if you like if you like the you know six-day seven-day routine and You and you want to do more I think you you can do more just more of the right things for your body that you'll get the most bang for your buck And what that would look like for someone like you in my opinion would be the mobility sessions from performance And you can go ahead and add those into anabolic when you go into that So I go performance and then anabolic with a little combination of the mobility And here's why you're lucky Lauren because we recommended two programs now We're gonna give you two programs for free, but I you know what I think we're I think we're Underestimating how much she's gonna enjoy performance because she did marathons and triathlons is that correct? I love the lunge matrix. Yeah, I love the process and I'll tell you this. I already have those programs Are you in the private forum because I would love to follow up I'm not in the private forum. Okay. We'll do that. Let's put you in the forum for free I just want to follow up on your progress I think actually because I know you did triathlons marathons. You like functional movement You like the sport aspect or that that aspect of training probably you're gonna love maps performance It's gonna be a lot of fun Training in that way and then once you see how your body responds That's it. I think you're gonna be sold on training your body appropriately. So let's do that Let's put you in the forum tag us. Let us know what's going on Adam gave great advice maps performance to maps Anabolic using the mobility sessions throughout both of them. I think that's great Thank you, that's that's awesome and and I just want to reiterate again, you know I work in the fitness industry. I'm a GM of a fitness and wellness center. You guys have inspired me so much Mainly you've really opened my eyes to a lot of the mobility stuff I had prime and I've you know, brought those skills Into the programming here by encouraging the staff to add more mobility more functional movement Especially into our group exercise program. We have a big Population of active seniors here and they're just loving it I think the stuff that you guys say about making people feel good Keeps them coming back and I think that's what it's all about. So I just Really appreciate, you know, your knowledge your sharing of information and just the inspiration you guys give every day I have a two-hour commute each way to work and you're with me every every time You know what Lauren now that I know that you you are you know manage a fitness department I want you to start to treat yourself and train yourself like one of your clients because I guarantee If one of your clients came in and literally said exactly what you said to me on this podcast Your advice would be very similar to mine. Am I am I wrong or am I right? It's so true. You know, it's some you know, I fall into the camp, you know adherence is never my problem I'm like, you know, all or nothing, you know kind of personality and I I tend to over train and push myself I would never tell a client that of course we always train our clients better than ourselves So try and put yourself in those shoes and you're more likely to give yourself better advice. Thanks for calling. Thank you Lauren. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. No problem people don't realize that The vast majority of people in the fitness industry Have somewhat of a dysfunctional relationship when it comes to exercise. They do a great job with their clients And they would give great advice to the clients. But and by the way, this is so many trainers and coaches fall into this applies to me Yeah, okay. This I'm I'm talking to me one of us heroes Yeah, it's it's so hard, but I've had to do that myself. Like what would I tell my client to do? Oh, it's not what I'm doing now. So it's really really challenging when you're in that position So I know what I know what she's what is that paradox that causes that dog That's like you see that even like with with therapists and people a lot of times doctors. Yeah, they're talking to themselves Yeah, right. We it's like that they're they're preaching this message and they're really communicating their own stuff Oh, yeah doctors and nurses are the worst patients. I think a lot of professions are like that You know, you see that even in like people that are like inspirational speakers and stuff like that Then they're all depressed at home and you know what it is I think what it is is the you know if I if I'm talking if someone's helping me with let's say a Disordered eating the person who struggles with it Who makes this their passion and that's their expertise? Probably will understand how to communicate to me the best and do the best job I really I really believe that so I think that's probably part of it You know like I know how to talk to people with this kind of relationship with exercise because I live it I think more of it is you're working your own shit out I think subconsciously, you know maybe what you're supposed to be doing for yourself So you're you're comfortable with saying it you're relaying it. Yeah, you're not internalizing right exactly But then you still struggle with taking your own advice about it But you but subconsciously you know better because you either have read or you've learned over time And so you do better with communicating it to others, but then taking your own advice is one of the hardest things to do Hey, if you enjoyed that clip you can find the full episode here or you can find other clips over here and be sure to subscribe