 When I talked about the fact that you cannot isolate the school and improve the school, I Think we've got to have a new kind of funding We've got to fund people who work with families where schools are and deal with those families in those schools We've got to have churches in those communities that will have after-school study all We've got to have transportation. Let's go pick up the parents on certain days when they've got to be informed In other words, we've got to have a wider structure. You that it because it's the homes It's the families that have that that contribute to the low Performance of the school When I came home from from school my parents had my meal or my mother as I told you my mother never worked outside on My dad was a pulmon porter. He was in and out, but when I came home my mother had the meal on the table I ate she had me take out my clothes my school clothes Get in the clothes that I wouldn't go where the school and then after that then she had me to go to that dining room table and so I get my my homework well now You go into many homes now where there's do you have these low performance? You discover they ain't no table But a child put the books on number one The parents haven't gotten home yet When they get home, they both work it in addition to that It might not be anybody but the mama And she can't do all of the she can't handle all of this And as a result of that the child gets further back and further back and further back and after a while the child just gets embarrassed in School because he can't read and the rest of them can't read others can't read and he drops out Because he's not gonna stay there and be embarrassed So you've got you've got to be deal with that community and the families in that community And that's why we when funding the schools we've got to have funds that are designed To work with the parents of the community now in other words Some of those parents would be able to come In some areas if they had somebody really working with them trying out teachers were costs and notes Those children don't know where that no talk before they get home They don't drop those notes off somewhere because this is the first place. They know mommy ain't coming in now There's no encouragement of that. So you got to broaden your area You got to get more churches surrounding schools involved These churches can open up their education of buildings and use them for study halls many retired teachers would come in and supervisors you could pay some pay a small amount just the The amount of Allocations should be increased to the point that you just didn't put it in the church is in the church Built in the school building you put it in persons put it in leadership Put it in those persons that are gonna work with those families I'm seeing the brother. I'm seeing I I just knew when we broke down the barriers to That many of the education that many of our youngsters would just be running to those schools But you don't run to a school if your mom and papa don't believe in schools If your mom and papa made it without a school and they think you can make it without a school They don't recognize the change that has taken place. I Just knew those things would happen that we would we would just be pushing toward the highest height But it's not happening Like I thought it should and there's still some elements now many of them are I mean you have coal and power for example is Examiner and miss Rice. They're there examples of people who made it But for every one of those persons you see made it There are hundreds right out in this community We're not only didn't make it But they even they're not in the position to even try to make it and therefore we've got to look at where we are And see whether or not The opportunities that the community offers are accessible You need a family where Education is not debatable Parents appreciate it they push it they do everything they can And education is the most critical problem. We are facing following the civil rights legislation Education there are two things working first number one you have a technological age We are now evaluated from here up There was a time we could be evaluated from here down Muscle did things in the past now only it does thing man That's where we are. If you don't get anything in your head You can forget about those muscles unless you put them on display Otherwise, they have a little bad here on the market in the market So education is a very critical day and there and we are not addressing that as a family issue We're addressing it as a school issue And you cannot isolate the school from the family Can't separate these two They've got to be involved. You got to have the whole thing involved. Well, I think I think you've hit upon one of the major problems because These districts are divisive in a measure they they tend to divide people economically they tend to divide people racially and You are right in saying it's going to be it's going to it's going to maintain Some of the division within our city It is probably as difficult To deal with that as it is to deal with metropolitan government There's always vested interests Every one of those districts Got a vested interest. They got business the people Education education is is not the main factor that determines those districts And that's why you got to hit at the main factor main factor is largely economics position Their businesses that would would fight against Uniting in some of those those districts because they are doing business with that district And they feel if they if they're that district they lose that district. They're going to lose their account So you've got a real tough job it's just now The advocates of those districts We'll say you got neighborhood schools And we have this you get the authority for the neighborhood schools near everybody. That's that's what you would get from the advocates of of these multiple districts, but It seems to me you could have that as well if you had a central district, but Uh It's a political problem What are the political problems we have that is it's It's going to be one of the hardest ones to fight Very difficult because people are going to support that system for different reasons Some people are going to support it because they feel they would diminish diminish the The the quality of the school if they make it citywide It's citywide district There are others who feel like Some people some people will lose money. They feel like they lose money that that operates that school if If they centralize it a lot of different reasons Uh But I do think it has it has a tendency to keep us divided Keep us divided now as it used to be even Ethnically, I think at one time it seemed to me when I was growing up It was more divided than it is now because you had Mexican schools and you had black schools and you had white schools and they were built around neighborhoods, but uh, they were still had more uh ethnic uh Definition than uh, we have now. I think you have have a more mixture Even now because there's been a mixed neighborhoods neighborhoods have mixed It might be At the only thing they will undermine the multiple districts is uh Is the mixture of neighborhoods That people will learn to live with each other as a result of those mixed neighborhoods and we want to Unify some of them, but it's still a very hard problem. It's a very difficult problem Very I don't have the answer Very difficult problem. How are you gonna bring about you? I thought it was 17 districts But it's enough of them So I don't know uh, I don't have all the answers. I don't have all the answers, but I know That right here in san antonio. We need to have a A militant movement To deal with this education of our youngsters We cannot continue to have low performing schools in our minority and impoverished communities We can't continue to do that It's going we're going to have to pay for that And the worst thing in the world is to have To deal with an ill-informed group of people That you created or did not allow to develop