 Hey guys, it's Nate, AKA the Foot Accountant. Welcome back to a channel. Very big, very important video for you guys today all about icon trading. This is gonna be an investing icon trading guide that I'm gonna put up for you guys today. A lot of people have been asking me, how do I trade with the icons? What is the way to trade with them? What do I need to look for? What do I need to know? And how do I know if an icon is a deal? What do I sell at? What happens to icons during promos? Stuff like that. I wanna make this a one time guide with all the information that you're going to need to trade with icons on FIFA 20. So that is my goal for this video today. It's probably gonna be a little bit longer, but that's okay. There's gonna be a ton of information in here and we're gonna go through so many different things in regards to icons. We're gonna look at the base overall aspects of icon trading and a lot of the little nitpicky things as well. Because this is one of the most fun ways to trade on FIFA Ultimate Team in my opinion. I think this is one of the most fun ways to make coins on this game. Obviously, as you can tell right now, I don't have a ton of coins. I have some stuff on my transfer list, so I won't be able to buy an icon as a part of this video for you guys. But I definitely know my stuff. Last year, one of the things that I learned to do was trade icons and I flipped tons and tons of icons. If you really wanted to go back, you could look on my Twitter and scroll down and all the icons that I posted flips of, it's just a very, very fun way to trade and it's very profitable as well if you had that high coin amount. So, I wanna get into this and basically what we're gonna talk about, I'm gonna kinda go through just some questions and stuff and we're gonna rattle it off and just start going and try to cover everything in this video, okay? So, I wanna ask the question first, why would you trade with icons? If you're somebody who maybe has 500K or more, that's where I would start to look at icons. If you have over 500,000 coins, that's where I would say you're in the icon trading zone at this point in FIFA. Icons are a great way to make money because they fluctuate a lot, they are rare on the market and they have high demand. These are some of the rarest cards on the market because they're just not packed that much but they also have a very high amount of demand because people want these cards for their teams. They have great statistics. Basically, at this point in the game early on in FIFA, these set of cards, these icons, have very, very good statistics, a lot better than some other gold cards that we have in the game and some of them just perform differently. Icons just feel different in game. I haven't used one this year but in years past, Icons just have a different feel to them and just has that stigma to them. Just the legend, you used to watch Hullet Play, you used to watch Vieira, you used to watch Rush or Trezeguet or Van Der Sar play and you just have that, you know, you've seen them on TV, they've since retired but now this is your way of connecting with that player who is either on your favorite team or was it a player that you enjoyed watching back in the day on FIFA Ultimate Team? So that's where like the icon trading demand comes into play. People know these cards. People, so many people have watched Pirlo. Pirlo is a new icon. Newer icons that have been added to the game in the recent year have a lot of hype. This is a card that I would say is probably good to trade with if you're on the lower budget, like maybe 600, 700,000 coins. This could be a card you look to trade with the baby Pirlo. A lot of people are gonna try this one out. So what that leads me into next, what icons do we wanna trade with? We wanna trade with icons. It's just kinda like when we invest in lower tier gold cards like SBC fodder cards. You notice a lot of the cards that I have here on this transfer list are of good nationality or they're known to be overpowered icons. Vieira, a very overpowered icon in FIFA. Hullet. Van Der Sar last year really got popular because of the green link that he gives to VVD. I think he's popular this year as well. And then popular nationalities. You have a French Tres Gays here. And then good statistics as well. Keen is known as being a very good CDM in this game as an icon. And here he is, the middle Keen, at a pretty reasonable price for an icon. And then also the brand new icons that I mentioned before. Like guys like Rush, guys like Ian Wright, guys like Pirlo, Zedan, Drogba, Kaka. Guys like that, Pep Guardiola even on a low budget icon trade. Guys like that are going to be easier to sell when you're flipping icons on the markets. And they're gonna be in demand more than some of these other cards. Now, you saw this filter that I set up here. This kinda weeds out some of the very lower tier icons. If I go to the very lowest tier of icons, you're gonna see a lot of these guys in here. I'm not gonna recommend you trade with these guys in Zaggy, Layman, Schmeichel, the baby versions of these cards. I really wouldn't touch these cards because there's not a lot of money in these, to be honest. There's really not a lot of money in these cards because not very many people want them. And there's no icon SBCs this year with the icon swap coming out soon. We know about those that are coming. So there's no demand for the floor of icons because you can't put them into SBCs like you could in the past. So that's kind of the thing there. Make sure, it's just like when we're talking about trading with regular cards in the market. Make sure you're trading with cards that are, that have demand, that are cards people are actually gonna wanna use in FIFA Ultimate Team and not just try to trade with baby Makalele, who is a very non-OP meta usable card in this game. So next, I wanna go into how. How do you wanna search these cards on the market and how do you wanna pick a card to buy them? So since on the PS4 and Xbox is a little bit different, obviously on the PS4, there's a lot more cards, a lot more listings that are on the market. So you have a lot more to filter through. So that's why you saw me set up that filter that I did right here. So I put a minimum buy now price of 500,000 coins because most of the icons that we wanna focus on and we wanna trade with because they are meta, they are popular, or they are a good nationality, a good league, easy for making a hybrid in teams. Obviously icons are good for hybrids because they link to everybody, but the strong links from the popular nations play a part as well. Most of those are above 500,000 coins. And I put a max buy now price of a million because I wanna kinda stay in that range because there's a lot of icons that are in that range especially if you're trying to flip icons and make the most coin amount from it. That's kind of a very good filter you can use as well. Another filter you can use is go buy nationality. So you go buy Brazilian icons and kinda set a filter. Okay, this baby Roberto Carlos is kinda cheap so maybe I set a minimum buy now price on the Brazilian filter. Some of these guys are very expensive. Garincha, Pelé, Socrates, Rivaldo. Maybe you set a minimum buy now on this filter of like 700K and then a max of like two mil. If you're somebody who's on a higher budget, you're gonna be able to find a lot of cards that are in this price range that you can filter through as well. So filtering by nationality is a good shout as well but I love this filter. This is just a very easy and quick way to get a lot of icons. So you can basically, if you're on console, on the companion or on the web app, this will minimize the amount of searches that you have to take to get to the 59th minute by a lot. So this pure low was just, I was watching it on my transfer list. Excuse me, transfer targets. So I was just watching this for 600,000 coins flat. Here it got the relist. It's not really that big of an undercut. The guy undercut by 8,000 coins. So not much of an undercut there. But he did get a relist right there. Oh, what do we have here? A bit of 646 on this Mateus and a buy now of 657. That's interesting. This might get bought, you know. Those are the things that you have to kind of see on the icon, Marty. You have to notice, hey, there's a bit on this card for this amount. And this card has a buy now price. How do we know if that is a good price? Or how do you know if these cards at the 59th minute are a good price? And for that, you're gonna use our handy-dandy friend, Footbin. So we're gonna go over here. Let's look at that Mateus card that I was pointing out. We're gonna look at Lothar Mateus, if it would actually load for me. Thank you. The baby Lothar Mateus looks like, according to Footbin on PlayStation 4, he cycles between. And we're gonna look at the hourly graphs for this. The daily graph is important to see how his market trend is overall, but the hourly graph is gonna show you on a day-by-day basis how much his card price fluctuates. So in the week that we sell off, he was between 650, 700, and 640. So 640 to 700. Yesterday, which was Monday, down to 644. 634. So that one for 657 that we have right here isn't really that low. Doesn't look like this card fluctuates a ton. So based on what I'm seeing in these graphs right here, I'm seeing he probably sells somewhere around 670 maybe, 680. If you get kinda lucky on the weekend, especially he'll be up towards 700 for sure. But most of the time it looks like he's selling around the 670, 660 to 650 range on the PlayStation 4. So you have to calculate tax in here. This is the biggest thing with icons is you have to really calculate the tax to know if you're getting a deal. So 600, let's say you're gonna sell for like 670,000 coins, while the tax on a 700,000 coin card would be 35K. Take 700,000 coins, divide it by 10, and then cut that in half again to get your 5% tax. 35K on a 700K sale. So if you sell it for 670, you're gonna have somewhere around, what is that gonna be like, 33,500 tax. So you have to plan for tax. So if you sell for 670, minus 33,500, so you're gonna have to buy that card definitely if you wanna make any profit for less than like 620, 610. You're gonna wanna look around the 600 flat range to make a really good profit on that card. Maybe 620 would be okay. Actually maybe 615 or 610 would be a good place to look for that, because you wanna make your coin flip worth it. You don't wanna go out here and buy an iCometeus, buy it for 630K, list it for 670, and make like 5,000 coins after tax. So that's not what you're going for with these icons. That's just a way to inflate your TP. And there's a lot of beef between people on Twitter that like to do that and think that people are trading icons just to trade their two beef, their TP up. And between other people that think, they're actually trying to trade icons to make money on the game. 997 for Kaka is a fresh, it is fresh. Second owner, tradable. Interesting, you can learn a lot by getting back here on the 59th minute. Ooh, there's another Kaka, baby. You can learn a lot by getting back here and looking at a lot of these card prices. And basically the way to learn these prices is to add them to your transfer list. This is a fresh Hugo Sanchez for 760. There aren't any open bids, but he does have one up there at 770. So you maybe can add this one to your transfer list, transfer targets, I mean, and watch the card price of that player to learn about that card's price. That's the most important thing of these icons. Adding the cards to your transfer targets or your watch list can really give you a good idea of what they sell for. So speaking of getting a good idea of what they sell for, I added this Vieira. It was the lowest one on the market about 30 minutes ago. Before I sat down to record this video, I added this Vieira to my watch list. It's sold at 1.369 million coins. And I just added this one over here. This Vieira sold for 1.308 million coins. So obviously there's not really a range in here where you could make money selling it for 60K more at 1.30 million. I mean, you're gonna lose on that if you bought this card and listed it at 1.6, 1.36. But it's interesting to know, okay, I know that Vieira could potentially sell overnight almost at 1.4 mil if the card is rare on the market. And this Vieira here sold for 1.038. So while that card was up on the market, you would probably not wanna buy it because you can't buy that card and flip it, but you wanna look for undercuts. And that's sometimes where you wanna leave a lower priced card on the market for as long as you can sometimes. If it's kind of in a flippable range, like maybe I would make 10K on this card. Like if I would make 10K on this Vieira that I was looking to flip. But maybe somebody will come in right after that and undercut by 50K, because it's weak in the sell-off time and they're looking to sell their cards. So they undercut by 50K and then boom, I can buy that card and then list it up. And I might have a 60,000 coin profit on a card like that. So that's a very important thing to look at with icons too. Since they are so rare, they don't sell as easy. So some people know that and they realize, hey, if I want this to sell quick and to get my coins back, I'm gonna have to undercut. And that's where you find the deals on a lot of these cards on the undercuts. So again, use your transfer targets, use your transfer list, your watch list to really watch these icons and to learn what prices they sell for. Use Footbin as well. Let's look at Vieira as I was just mentioning his name. Patrick Vieira, if I can actually type his last name correctly, which I did and the dropdown didn't come up. But Vieira on PS4 1369, as you can see, it was updated 57 minutes ago. So Footbin never even registered that 1.308 card that I have on my transfer list. That one never even registered. But you can look at yesterday, this Vieira was on the market for 1.254 and now he's selling at 1.369. If you bought that card and listed it up for 1.369 where he now, you know he can sell there, that's a big time profit right there. That's a very good flip on a card of this value. Even the 1.275, if you know that he sells there, that's a good price. Let's look at the Sunday price fluctuations. Again, he was down under 1.3, 1.261, 1.286, and then 1.297. So you know that if this Vieira card, if you see him at 1.27, 1.26 or below that, that's probably a very flippable deal because this card is one of the most sought-after icons in the game. There's gonna be a lot of buying power on this card. Once people get the coins to buy this card, you're gonna see a lot of people buy it because it's very, very popular. So that's another thing to take in consideration is the popularity of the card. Now, let's say you find a Vieira, which we're using as our example right now. Let's say you find a Vieira, 1.25 mil, and you know that you can maybe get him to sell overnight at 1.35, 1.36 million coins. So you're thinking, okay, I should be able to make a decent amount of coins on this icon flip. What do you sell the card for? Really, it depends in that moment in time. You have to look at the market because the market for these icons is always changing, and you have to make your card look enticing, and you have to make it look sellable and kind of stand out and look like a good purchase for the rest of the market. So right now, there's one at 1.375, there's one at 1.320. If you bought one at 1.25, you don't wanna undercut this card because you're not making a lot of coins. Your card doesn't have to be the cheapest on the market to sell when it comes to icons. If that one that you bought at 1.25 million coins is fresh, list that sucker up at 1.375. Match this card's price overnight. Overnight's are great times to get sales on cards like this. This Viera as well. Oh, it's not fresh, that sucks. What about this one right here? It's fresh. So this guy knows he has a fresh card. It's the only fresh Viera on the market. So he jacked his price up. Obviously it's listed for two days. I would not recommend that. I would list it for one hour each time or six hours for overnight or 12 hours depending on how long you sleep. But if you have fresh cards, never underestimate the power of the fresh cards. But if you got that Viera, let's say you got them at 1.25 mil and you're like, okay, I'm gonna go to bed, I'm gonna list them overnight. What do I list them at? Or even you bought them right away and you wanna just get it back up on the market and relist it. You don't always have to be the lowest by it now because there's a lot of buyers on the market, especially for a Viera card like this. So maybe I would probably list it up at somewhere around 1.365. Because yes, you know that he sells kind of in that range on the high end, but if this card sells, all of a sudden yours is the cheapest on the market or if this card expires, yours is the cheapest on the market. So having your card be the cheapest or the second cheapest on the market is kind of where I look for a quicker flip on the icons. Now if you have millions upon millions of coins and you don't need that card to sell right away, you can afford to take a little bit more time and let that card sit there for a bit, but you wanna get your coins back so you can flip another icon, right? So having yours be like the second cheapest on the market is probably a good shout. Sometimes you need it to be the cheapest. If you really need to get those coins in and out really fast, just kind of depends on your coin amount and how many coins that you have. And also know the state of the market. If the market, if we're after a promo, let's say we're looking at the team, the group stage promo, a lot of packs were just opened, a lot of cards are entering the market. You've got a couple icons on Snipes and then you're thinking I wanna relist my card, but what do I list it at? Because I know that these people are opening packs and they're getting coins and they're gonna go buy back these cards eventually for their weekly teams. You can afford to list those cards a lot higher because you might buy a whole it for 920K on a fresh snipe during team of the group stage, but you know that he sells for usually somewhere around one million coins, little over one mil like this card right here, but a fresh card heading into Weekend League on a Friday where people panic sold everything before the promo, there's a bunch of packs open and people have more coins. Maybe you list that whole card that's fresh, maybe you listen for like 1.099 or 1.09 flat and try to squeeze some extra money out of that card because people will have more coins from opening packs and the market will be inflated a little bit higher. So that's the situation where you might be able to list your icon a bit higher in terms of you know the market is about to swing in a big up and upswing, it's about to trend up because there was a lot of packs just opened or it's Thursday rewards, that's another thing to think about. So you kind of have to take those things into account when you're listing icons as well. So that's listing icons, that's a very important part because you obviously, you want your icon to sell, you can get a great buy price, but if you don't list your icon correctly at the right price or take into consideration what the market is looking like, you might be cheating yourself out of or listing too low and losing out on some coins. So that is listing icons. So what influences price? We're almost done boys, I promise, right? I'm almost done talking about these, hopefully you guys have learned a bunch already. What influences price? Promo panic as we talked about, even thinking about this foot swap promo is coming up, you're probably gonna see some panic selling on the icons, could be a great opportunity to pick up the cards before the promo comes out and then people are realizing, hey, I'm gonna have to grind for these icons, there really shouldn't be any panic selling anyway, and then them going buying them right back, that's called like a panic sell before a promo, that's a great time to pick up some of these icons and I mentioned it as well, snipes during big time pack openings, either a reward set, so Thursday when rewards are coming out or during a promo sets, when promo packs are opened up for a promotion, 100Ks, 50Ks, Black Friday, whatever, that's a great time to pick up icons as well. You can use a special filter in that timeframe to pick up fresh undercuts on the market. So let's say I'm gonna be down here at my 500,000 coin price range again, 500K and one mil, and we need to go to league icons and then we also need to put the chemistry style to basic, this is another way to filter out icons because you get the fresh icons, now you have to be careful and you have to check, is the card actually basic? Is the card actually fresh? Is it the basic chemistry style real? Or is that card not fresh at all, okay? So that's one thing that you really have to be sure of, you can go and you look, okay, seven contracts usually means it is fresh, but you probably want a second guess and right click on the card and actually look at its price because sometimes it'll say seven contracts like this, but it won't be fresh because people will try to trick you on this type of stuff. People will really try to trick you on some of these icons. Don't just look for seven contracts, right click on the card or click player info, take a couple extra seconds to look at that card and see if it is a fresh one, like this one right here. It has a basic chemistry style, but it's not fresh. It is first owner, but not fresh. So that's something you have to keep into account as well. As I mentioned, those do sell for a premium. What else impacts icon prices, pro qualifier events? The first pro qualifier for the FIFA 19 global series is this weekend, October 12th and 13th. I already know they can only have two icons in the squad. There are some crazy ratings requirements for the qualifiers and for the pro events this year. But for qualifiers, you can only have an 84 rated squad with two icons. So a guy like this Vieira and this Holit could make it into a lot of teams because they're very meta cards and they are kind of lower rated, but also like their player building game is very beast. You know, people love Holit, people love Vieira. So that's something to watch out for it as well. Some extra, depending on the requirements, if icons are able to be used, some extra hype on icons, they could go extra high, especially on a guy like Van Der Sar maybe, if there's no requirements for a weekend league and Van Dyke got it in form, it's very easy to link Van Dyke with the green link from Van Der Sar. But again, very popular guys like Vieira, Holit, I mentioned Van Der Sar, maybe even guys like a Dragbo or Zidane, depending on who the pros start using, and we'll figure that out as time goes on. But those pro qualifier events can affect the price as well. And then again, you can do tech avion. We noticed back here in the market that there was a couple of people that's trying to do tech avion, 99 contracts in some of these icons. You can do, look at this, couple tech avions right here, a Luis Hernandez baby, it's a fresh, they added 99 contracts, oh that's fitness. My bad, I thought I saw 99 contracts on that one. How many of these cards have 99 contracts? Are there anybody out here, this one right here? This Butra Gueno, somebody's trying to do a little bit of tech avion with it, they threw 99 contracts on the card, 99 fitness, and a basic hemp style. It is not fresh though, you'd have to click on the card to realize, that's a way you can squeeze a couple extra thousand coins out of your icon flips. One other thing as well, when you're searching the transfer market, be careful, be very careful whether you're on mobile app, on companion app, or on the console. Sometimes when you compare price into your transfer targets, it doesn't show you every single icon that's appearing on the market. Look, this is interesting right here. Pirlo, remember that Pirlo that we saw that did not sell for 600K flat and that had a hunter that got re-listed at 592? This one right here has a bid on it at 610. So you know, it just, you just all about having your cards listed up on the market that 592 got bought, the 600 went through for a past hour and didn't expire. Somebody wants a center mid Pirlo and they're bidding on this card for 610K with the hemp style on it. So that's another thing to keep in mind as well, just keeping your cards up on the market gives them a better chance to sell because they're there, especially on PS4, there's a lot of demand. And if your cards aren't on the market, obviously they can't sell. So that's a lot of information, okay? This is like 25 minutes long already. It's longer than I wanted it to be. But the meat of it is, look for the undercuts, use foot bin, but also more than that, use your transfer targets and use your mind, watch and see what prices that cards sell at because that is the most important thing. Make sure that you're focusing on meta OP cards and that you're taking into account the timing of the market as well. Sunday nights, during the week when they sell off, could be a great time to buy some of these cards on undercuts, but you probably wouldn't be looking to sell them right away. You might be looking to sell them in the next day or two as their price kind of recovers if there's some panic selling. And don't be afraid to scoop into the market if you see a card's price getting very low. Like let's say this Trezeguet, or let's go back to our Vieira example. Let's say you see three Vieiros in the market. You have five million coins and you see three Vieiros in the market for 1.2 flat or like 1.21, 1.22, 1.23. You can go ahead and scoop all those up and kind of reset that market price because you know the Vieira sells for 1.35. Kind of list those up. Maybe list one at like 1.4, list one at 1.35 and then list one at like 1.37 and have an opportunity to make one of those cards sell in the next few hours or in the next day just by knowing the trends of that card. So trends are so important. Knowing prices are so important. And then obviously knowing what's going on in terms of the regular market trends as well is so important. So I think I covered just about everything in terms of these cards. I wanted to look at why they're popular to trade with. I wanted to look at how to find them on the market, what cards to trade with, what cards to start with if you're new to icon trading and yeah. So if you guys enjoyed this video, it's very long, the very long how-to videos. I appreciate you guys supporting these videos but if this helped you at all, smash a thumbs up on it. Comment down below if you have any questions. I'd like to help you out here with icons and of course you can always tweet me questions about listing icons because these are hard. These are hard to trade with but they're the most fun to trade with in my opinion as well. So my Twitter link is down in the description if you'd like to tweet me as well. And of course, subscribe to the channel if you are new. Thank you guys for 4K subscribers. I greatly appreciate it. It makes me so happy that you guys are enjoying these videos and subscribing for more of them. Until the next video, I'm gonna peace out boys, all right? It's been Nate, the Foot Accountant. Catch you guys later. Peace out.