 Most companies that sell products make money by selling them to consumers Pyramid schemes typically make money selling overpriced difficult to sell products to their own distributors Who are typically aspiring entrepreneurs hoping to build a business? Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of the procrastinators podcast I am the best guy ever Faro best guy ever because we're talking about Egypt today, of course And we've got mr. Mummy hippocrates What was that entire intro? I don't know you're a mummy now for this episode. Okay. Hello, it's me. Yes Ben Anubis dead. Yes. Welcome to the Luxor hotel Where you gotta you gotta die and go to hell? Rhymed because I am a genius And uh, oh, you know that did you know that in Egypt pharaohs were all buried with their pets? That's what Tom Oliver is. He's one of these Pyramids weren't made by the Egyptians are made by aliens who were worshipped as gods in the past Google the Anunnaki. It's all fucking real You know before we get into the actual topic. I just want to relate an anecdote that my Spanish teacher in high school Mr. What's his face? Mr. Oh God, what was his name? Mr. Sub they called him mr. Bella. Mr. Cibella mr. Cibella Legitimately believed that the Incan Ziggurats were made with some kind of advanced lost technology that used sonic waves to love to levitate stone blocks in place I've watched ancient aliens. I know exactly how all that shit was made I have a question about that. I have a couple questions one one Why is it that they they have like the skills of like a level one a tier one minecrafter these aliens? It's gotta be some sonic some sonic nonsense. Yeah, of course We make up for our lack of technical ability with our creativity. That's why you know given the tools We can make crazy shit aliens. They got the technical shit down They're just not very creative right they make a big giant like 3d triangle and they call it a day That's true. There was a there was a lot of sonic powers back then. There was a real sonic mania. Yeah Sonic boom back in the day Relevant to our friend hypocrite here Well, all right. Let's let's begin everybody. So our egypt theme episode is about pyramid schemes. Yay Boy, I understand it was the was the was the process of Worshipping alien skygods. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Okay. Let's let's check over our buddies over at Urban Dictionary to see what they've got to say on the situation Okay, here we go pyramid scheme This is definition number two the best scheme to ever set up once you learn to never underestimate I hate this already the stupidity of the human majority. Just make sure you don't get caught though Oh, I regret reading that. That's fucking fedora. I know I know right? Yeah, let's okay. Let's try another one Here's the top definition. I should have just gone to this one Um a fraudulent business model illegal in most places in which participants are paid to recruit more Participants rather than commissions on sales frequently passed off as multi-level marketing by incorporating sales of an Unmarketable product or service into the scheme in such cases participants are usually required to maintain a monthly purchase quota to qualify for payments All right. Well, that that's really it. That's that's the one Now Version of like a zombie plague Multi-level marketing is the is like is like the the softer gentler form that is supposed to be a correct term if you will Yeah, that's what your schemes call themselves to get away with being pyramid schemes, right? And and give you described it as like a similar to the zombie outbreak But it'd be like the zombie outbreak if like in order to make more zombies you couldn't you didn't have to just touch You had to like convince them like no you got to understand like being a zombie is great You're really gonna want to you're really gonna adapt to our life style $49 protein powder you too can have this amazing zombie complexion Eventually there's gonna be so many of these people in the thing that there's no one left to recruit and they're like well We're gonna just starve. There's no brains to eat. We're all And they all fall over that's a fair point It's interesting that you brought up protein powder cuz just the other day I was I was coming back from the gym and I happened to stop in I think CVS or whatever And I was getting my my gigantic five pound box of protein powder in the things and like as I was buying it This dude's like hey hold up their friend. Oh, and this is like just like two days ago I have I got something for you and he runs out to his car. He's like don't leave and he runs out to his car Wait, was this the guy who worked there or just no it was he was loitering in the in the lobby I think he was like buying something legitimately, but he happened to see an opportunity and he dove on it when he saw me buying protein powder He's like oh, this is actually kind of sad He he so he gives me like he comes back with like a pamphlet and like a little packet of some substance He's like here. This is like the best protein powder ever. We grow it in like Greenland. It's new. It's fancy He was actually Greenland what the fuck it might have been Iceland, but what are those and he was like? No, it was Ireland Ireland some it must be some soy protein then if it's ground It definitely was but then like he was stumbling over the pitch He had clearly just learned this and had like internalized it yet So I don't think this is really a pyramid scheme as much as just like a sales pitch in general But it was interesting. It was it was a similar sort of situation I just happened to find myself in and needs to say I threw it all in the trash as soon as he was out of my eye Why did you even wait? Why did you wait? I? Be right in front of him to send a message, but that's the thing in order to deal with these kind of situations I make it seem like I'm on board and then immediately throw everything away once they're gone so that I don't to deal with the social ramifications of rejecting someone You just like mmm. Thanks. This is some good information dumps in the trash. Well, I'll look all this over and get back Let me pass this off to my secretary dumps into garbage can I'll be back soon and then Oscar the crash comes out. He said that You said I could go home at five. I don't want to come down. He's like, oh, this looks like a real good money-making opportunity Incidentally, I did look at the nutrition facts only 21 grams of protein for serving My other thing has 25 grams of protein per serving so fuck it fails on it's probably got like essential oils Oh, yeah, something or like electrolytes Yeah, I'm sure I'm sure some amino acids. It's a super food that is protein Yeah, what is our angle on pyramid schemes because I don't think any of us like it I know I think some of us have experience right yeah tell stories. Yeah. Well. Yeah. Yeah Well this this Jackie Suggested this topic to me and I thought it was great because I have personal experience with as she does too She's known people that have been involved in it and and then I went and I did some research And I there was this there's this blog called not quite fairytales blog Which is a girl's personal account of getting like deep deep into the fucking MLM rabbit hole And it's oh multi-level market and it's apps. It's it's a it's a pretty gripping read and it's absolutely Disgusting the way it all the way it all goes down And then there's a documentary called betting on zero that is about this investor called Bill Ackman who is um He's he's gone. He's going after have you seen it Tom? I watched that it's funny because like I watch this like three days before you brought up this topic So I'm prepared for this. Yeah, it's it's because he basically he invests tons of money in the idea that That or a company called Herbalife will fail because he's convinced that the company is a pyramid scheme So the movie is basically his quest to like out Herbalife as a pyramid scheme So the business will fail and he'll recoup a huge amount of profit on his investments. Interesting. Yeah Anyway for me my personal experience is that I was almost recruited by a vector marketing to sell cut-coe knives That's what happened to me This is when I was this is when I was pretty freshly out of college living at home and Desperate to find a job and they prayed on me because I was weak and I didn't know any better Yeah, I think I was on Craigslist or something and I saw an ad for vector marketing and I you know Responded to the ad and they said coming for an interview. So here's here's what happened I went I drove down I put on like a suit or some shit and I drove down scared scared shitless because I really need this I really fucking need this So I go into the waiting room into the lobby in this office building and I wait for my turn and I go in and I and I talked to this smug the smug clean-shaven bald guy. He's like a youngish guy and he's just smirking He's like he's real fucking confident in himself and he asks me like he asked me like some bullshit question And he gives us all a pretty he gives everyone in the room a presentation where like oh this knife is so sharp It can cut a penny So you take the knife and you like ooh you you cut a penny into a spiral and like this is what you're supposed To do and the idea is that you go around door to door being like hey I want to sell you some knives you go in their home and you cut a penny in front of them You're like ooh it's so sharp and cut a penny and they're like okay But the thing is you got to buy the knives from them to then go out and sell them So there's no they're not hiring you to do anything You're buying product from them that you will hopefully then go on to resell So like they profit no matter what just by bringing you on board But I didn't realize this I was so desperate for a job that I was like this This is my fucking ticket out of dad yelling at me all the time for being an unemployed asshole so um So I was and I'll never forget after the interview went down I was waiting and the guy come he like calls me in his office, and he's like Ben So after after talking to you for a while and reviewing your credentials We have decided that yes, you are qualified to work. Yeah, and I was like I was like really relieved I was like, oh, thank you. I was like I'm really grateful It's embarrassing looking back on it because now I know what was really going on, but I was and so I went home And I was like mom dad I'm gonna sell knives and and Looking back. I don't know why mom philosophy physics Right and looking back. I don't know why they didn't be like then this is a scam Like they should I don't know why they didn't just do that But they were like, um, are you sure about this? Are you really sure about this? And I was like mom dad? What do you want to do? You're always telling me to get a job. Here's here's a fucking job. What more do you want from me? God But at some point considering I was like, I gotta pay like a hundred and sixty dollars for this knife set Like I can't fucking spare that and also it doesn't seem right that I need to buy product to work for a job So I ended up so like the fact yeah my lack of money ended up my lack of money got me into that situation But then it also Stonewalled me from getting any further into it so I couldn't go through with it Years later. I was again jobless and I responded to another ad for some other company They'd said they'd give me an interview and I went to this office building It was a piece of crap in the middle of nowhere underneath. It was underneath a karate dojo But yeah, but I went inside and I waited around and it turned out that this interview was not even one-on-one It was basically a group presentation and this was not Quite the same. I didn't have to buy in to do this But basically I would just be selling insurance policies on commission, which is pretty much the same thing It's no risk to the company. They're not hiring you for anything You're just selling their product and they'll give you a cut if you're successful So it's basically another multi-level marketing thing, but this time I knew what was up so at the end I was just like I'm out I'm out peace and That's that's my fucking story. How about you guys? Well, Ben, that's cool, but I prefer people who succeed at multi-level marketing I want to hear I want to hear a champion who's who's made world the world his bitch Someone who really had the hustle the hustle they need to make it work Exactly like to be honest I would kind of like to know some insider stories from people who have risen up in the ranks at least a little bit Become that recruiter guy. I that's like I serious. I seriously recommend The the not quite fairy tales blog it is it is horrifying like the girl in it like she does You know she manages to sell a little bit just from her own like just from her own like get up and go like going around and look In front she becomes like a complete fucking slave drone to this company her whole like Facebook and social media presence becomes Dedicated to tweeting about it to tweeting about it and tweeting about products Posting selfies of herself talking about how grateful she is to have this job and how wonderful her life is now that she's got this job Even though she's like hundreds of pounds in the hole for the entire time But they're just like fake it till you make it girl You got to tell people how great this is but like that's so evil. It's really evil like they're like They're like fake it till you make it But really like they say that under the guys like show people how great the product is so they'll want to buy it But no really what they're doing is fake it till you make it tell people how great this job is so they'll be duped Into fucking signing on and becoming you're duping yourself into not letting the reality of the situation phase you yeah And of course of course she eventually finds out that this like super with it successful together girl that recruited her She was just faking until she made it to she wasn't making any money either. Nobody in the chain was making any money They're all they're all in the hole the people that are maintaining their high rankings are literally buying the products for themselves and keeping them Keeping their quote-unquote business afloat that way. It's um, it's a nightmare Some of the most evil shit out there, man. That's that's not how capitalism is supposed to work It's purely parasitic you succeed you succeed in an MLM by duping people into doing into falling for the same trick You fell for yeah once you realize that the products won't sell that's the only way to make it work So what I want to know is did the girl ever cross that cross that evil bridge and become like I mean I know that she was advertising it for her Did you ever willingly like acknowledge it like I am now duping people and you know what? I've got to do it if I want to dig myself out of here. Did she ever get into that place? No, not quite there was this kind of thing where like she got her like step sister to buy some makeup at a kind of a shitty Price and then she like couldn't refund it even though the girl changed her mind But she wasn't like no, she didn't like act. She did recruit some people but she didn't like No, no, she wasn't too like clearly there are worse people Sure, but the funny thing is even in a situation where you're doing this like the human beings are crazy adaptive You can get yourself in the headspace where you don't think you're doing anything wrong with this stuff Wait, no, I changed my mind because she did the fake it till you make a thing and she did recruit people So yeah, she absolutely duped people never mind. She was just as bad as any other others what I'm wondering is if like We could call these people evil and all that but I'm wondering if they're not more helpful to think about it that like Their perspective has been fucked up and we need to see the light, you know Yeah, because they they've been told by people they think it was successful that this is how they did it And so they're just following the blueprint that they've been given same if you go to any job And they're like this is the way you do it and then you do it you have no proof that that works You just take them at their word That's true until you learn as you go until you're just like wait They're fucking me over and then you screw you think it's a legitimate job and and like any any talk of like Oh, well my products aren't selling this stuff is not good It's like that's all like you're being negative you need to work on your attitude You need to have a positive mind You need a positive mindset to succeed in this industry But a positive mindset is just like buy everything we tell you to buy Yeah, it's all that business talk that I feel like there's a whole set of human society that is The businessman and it's so weird and alien that they get in their heads that the way to To succeed is is to be this way and I think it's really just dumb people following a blueprint like he's saying like They don't know what they're doing, but they know that it makes them money. So they just keep doing it until you know They get really rich They smart people generally don't go down that road But when they do they rise right to the top because they know actually how to do it better There there are rich people in these pyramid schemes But they're only at like the very very top that have like just lucked into a situation where they have huge networks of people underneath them Wouldn't have like the president's group or the fuck it was you got like this like diamond pin And they were like they did these huge big presentations or like hundreds of people when they're like they Showcase these guys and then it's like you just have to keep going. I have like 15 sports cards now Urban life's the best. Yeah, everybody was like cheering. It's all that if I can do it You can do it right fucking bullshit What's what's evil about this is that so in like normal capitalism the whole idea is you like Generate a product and you give it to people who you know don't have the skills or whatever to make themselves or the time They've just got other specialties and then you you do an equitable trade where you both gain and that's where that's where society Progresses, I mean, you know in this kind of system. That's like through that trade That's where all the great stuff that we have in America has basically come through this process But like nothing is being created in this system. It's kind of like it's kind of like the banking system only that actually lending money does sort of allow growth in some ways the the business model of these of these, you know Pyramid schemes that pass themselves off as MLMs by having a quote-unquote product That's for sale is that the the product itself is not anything special and it's overpriced for what it is So it will not sell on its own The old the but but the structure of the way that you recruit people and then you you incentivize these people like you need to Sell you need to sell the stuff at any cost if you're gonna make your quote-unquote business work So that creates the incentive to buy and sell so like the products are designed to be bought by end users They're designed to be bought by the people you recruit. Yeah, they can sell Yeah, so the only people buying the products are the people suckered into it Are the employee the quote-unquote employees, right? They're the ones with with the interest in purchasing the products any system of of trade like this that isn't about Delivering as high a quality product as possible to the people at a minimum has its priorities skewed and yeah Evil it's it's disgusting like what watching the um in the betting on zero documentary They interview the guy who's in charge of Herbalife Which is another company like this that sells like like health health products and stuff and he he's some like he's like an ex-Disney Executive and but he talks about it like he talks with such confidence about how like this business is great because we're bringing Like we're bringing these like great products to people like we're providing a we're providing a great service Like we're bringing important fucking health benefits to the people and we're you know Giving tons of people like an opportunity to make money like we're supporting these communities like the the movie is it's Part of its centers on this like this Latina community this Latino community That's like a bunch of them have been suckered in they've been like tricked into buying these like franchises of Herbalife The only for the products not to sell and they they're ruined and they lose tons of money and it causes tons of problems for them And they're like protesting this company because like we were duped you know by promises of success that we're not Representative of your actual company and meanwhile fucking what's his name the CEO of Herbalife is like yes You know we love the Latina community, you know, they're part of our they're part of us Happy we're happy to give them this opportunity But it's a fucking sham They bring the guy who's who's who's betting on zero the guy they follow They bring him in to have this like meeting with these people bringing the lawsuit against Herbalife all the people I got duped and then Herbalife Hires a busload of people to counter-protest them during this meeting So there's tons of Latino people out there with signs saying how great Herbalife is and they've all been paid to do it To make it look as if these guys are all full of shit on that subject is Herbalife hiring because I could really use some I would totally counter-protest for money. I'm not that dedicated to this cause You know Good going time gone. I was gonna say we're all we're all missing the important question here because we're all morally vacant We need to the question we need to ask is how do we make the PCP a Pyramid scheme so we can all make tons of money clearly that's the question question here I like I like where your head's at Well, I'm actually the head of a pyramid scheme. It's called it's called my patreon It's called patreon.com slash Louis Batten the way it works is you patron me and You give me money and then you get other people to join in and the patron and then they can replace the money You're giving me so you'll you'll be my patron without having to pay You just need to recruit people to do it for you and then everybody can go into my patron Discord chat and they can say hey Hey, I got in here without paying and then everyone will be like like it'll be like fuck it's sick And then the people and then the people down the people they recruited are gonna be scrambling to find people to pay for their segment for their Portion of what they're, you know, you know This isn't quite a pyramid scheme So it's a pretty far cry from it really but like I it's funny to me to think about the way Patreon sort of works and that it incentivizes creators to like patron each other and then just recirculate money Because the whole deal is like does it well? Well, yeah, like there's there's a big culture of like oh go out and patron everybody keep forwarding money to your creators But the thing is or to the creators that you like as an artist But the thing is every time that you patron anyone Patreon takes their 10% or their 5% cut or whatever from the money that's being patron So if you if you if somebody patrons you a dollar and then you're like great All right, let's say ten dollars and then you decide to patron somebody five dollars or something Like and you're using the money that you're making to do that Like you're just giving patreon the money and no more is actually getting to the creators, you know, you know what I'm saying Yeah, like if you yeah Patron gets like double and triple dip on that because like it's the same $10 But they've taken their cut twice out of the same $10. I remember I remember seeing someone's patreon that was like He posted like inspirational quotes and writings and stuff But his model was like my model is like you patron me all patron you and in no, that's the yeah Way like I like it boosts both of us But like yeah only the only person getting paid in that situation is patreon itself. Everyone else the money is just disappearing Dupest thing I've ever heard. I read this like yeah Okay, this guy looks like he's fucking got it because he's got a pretty high patreon number going He's giving that all back to the people but he's yeah, just it's a fucking sham That's why I make a point of not patroning people as a person who gets money from patreon I paid for you hippo. Oh, I that thanks Thanks I'm with you though I have never patroned anyone and will never because I would much rather just pay pal the money directly if I was inclined to do So yeah palace is a better for that although for me to you It would it would still lose money because of the the country difference PayPal That's true PayPal's recurring payment function is it would be a superior alternative to patreon But nobody wants to do it and and I kind of The masses need their centralized platform in order to make up for the fact that they have no brains I don't really blame them. I mean I just doesn't I mean it just doesn't have that I Don't know like I can't put my finger on it But there's something more friendly about doing it through patreon Yeah, there's just a there's just a culture now The PayPal is better but patreon just is so much more like appealing I think what it is is that for PayPal You need to be given a link to and then type in stuff for patreon you go there and you have an account You just press a button Really yeah, like it's it's it's one of the downsides It's not to pay that much simpler, but it's simpler enough that people would do it over PayPal and not to mention It's like a far more customizable thing. I'll tell you what what PayPal needs to do PayPal needs to get in this game so I can stop giving patreon You know like I lose like a 10% cut of everything I made through through the combination of like Money being transferred to like the like the like the credit card people who like process the payments and stuff And then also patreon takes their 5% cut so like everybody loses 10% off that shit PayPal already has this technology built in for free They just need to work on their public image and they will now get all the traffic that patreon gets they just need they need a PR Campaign to step their shit up Elon Musk I'd actually know if you still works at PayPal or whatever But they need to get their shit together and organize this and just make it so that they have a similar platform To what patreon does with the like customization and the cute memes you can put and the little descriptions what not and your your your campaign The Needs competition desperately I would well I would welcome it from a corporate monolith like PayPal I don't want them to fucking be Cuz like PayPal is is like a big company. They're so like normal Patreon has the edge of being like oh, we're all into indie art guys You come to patreon and and everyone's like oh well, I guess I will Actually killed the first site to do this cuz patron wasn't the first Yeah, they were running that for a while But the thing is they never got it out of like beta or whatever cuz like only certain people could Where use it could join subbable like you had to be chosen for it And they kept that up for like a year or something and patreon just like fuck that We're gonna do what you did but let it be open for everybody and then eventually I was sad I was sad about that because I actually liked subbable's model better Yeah, it was like model was way better It was the way that my patreon is set up where I give rewards based on total patronage not on like right So like when you donated money to subbable it like built up like your bank And then you could spend the money in like lump sons to get rewards instead of like having like monthly things So it was like a hundred dollars and you pledge five dollars a month once you pledge a hundred dollars total Then you could unlock that reward and claim it. That's good. That's good So but they they got killed because they didn't develop a site fast enough that's the market baby and I assume you guys know about the little bit of controversy that's been going on about patreon demonetizing or you know Shutting down the accounts now there's a lot of sides to that and we don't need to go into it too much But I was actually pretty pretty pretty convinced by the arguments that mr. Patreon man made in the in the video that he made need he did like an interview with The interview that he did with Dave Rubin and it was it was I Felt like I was concerned by the fact that he just said like a lot of the situations like I don't know what I would do I'm like dude you wrote the rules You're the guy you're the guy dude What who am I supposed to ask these questions to the thing is is though like people were saying because like it was Lawrence Southern who got demonetized and she's like a right-wing political commentator and people were like pissed off This is a political thing But if you look at like the history of patreon like banning they've also banned like you know Antifa things and like left-wing stuff too. So it is like they are sticking to their their their terms of service or whatever it is But it still is like a bad precedent I guess about this I have a thought about this I've been thinking about for a while And I only recently was able to to articulate it clearly. So let me tell you let me ask you guys What do you think about this so so common these days when someone is like Let's just say like when when Sargon of Akkad for example got kicked off of Twitter as he was recently You know like people good reasons fair enough It doesn't matter how you feel about it But the point is as he's kicked off the people like his side of the argument says like oh You know that's not fair. This is shutting down free speech You know I mean not everybody's making that point and like he would acknowledge like Twitter's a private company But that's the thing the other side would then say You know the leftists who are happy that he's gone. No Twitter is a private company They can do whatever they want dude. You just have to deal with it. That's you know fuck off And so okay, so that's a fair argument, but here's what I'm wondering about that situation So as time goes on more and more these companies like Twitter are the ways that we actually Communicate in the real world like this this is becoming like just the public marketplace I guess it's like post a gathering of the town square a better example for this is it like Twitter is bad enough But like Google Google is super politically motivated at this point and like that's been made clear Essentially is a public utility at this point like you can't function without using their services So like if not like legally from an ethical ethical standpoint, they should be apolitical and not Mingle in that at all despite the fact that they're a Private company like there's like you know just recently when I watched the interview with mr. Patron man There were like he talked about how Patron exists to cultivate a certain culture and you know he was big jack in his dick about like no We're creators where the creators place and like he was like so for example You cannot sponsor like a porn thing on patreon like that's against our terms of service And I was like hang on I know people right now who have patrons that are about porn and are you know like that's what they do So where's the I didn't even I guess it's just like I think he just means like actual pornography because you can like draw porn I think they're fine with that. I am pretty sure I'm pretty sure I am aware of Like like models and like they're definitely cam girls and stuff on patreon Photographers and like you know erotic photography that is definitely being funded through patreon at least as far as I am aware I have definitely seen such things before maybe they've been shut down But some people would argue there's a difference, but I think it's bullshit I think like at that point like there's no difference between porn and like like why Jessica Negiri for example has a gigantic patron one of the biggest and I only watch her to jack off That's what I do. That's what her content is for so I don't know what other utility it has So I like that seems like a clear case I don't know at least I just think it's dumb to ban porn entirely. I think I think it's it's as valid Because that would that's like I I'm just guessing but that's probably a huge amount of patreon's income is like various porn things Oh, I'm sure it is very Like that girl who makes like the Sikimi chan that's exactly what I'm thinking of yes her every time I think about her I just want to kill myself. She makes what like 50 grand a month or something It's like she makes she makes over six figures a year like easily well There's a decent amount of paid. Okay, but the point I wanted to get to about this was like yeah It's basically this issue of like being it being treated as a public utility like right now There's this whole thing about net neutrality going on right now And I actually don't know the status of it right now. I don't think anything's changed At the moment but but the point is that like we're trying to make the internet be be treated as like again a public utility Like the phones are so right now AT&T cannot say hey we heard that you were talking about big gay dicks on the phone So we're shutting down your account because we are a good Christian company and we don't want that shit on our fucking airwaves Well, they can't do that. You can't you can technically do that. I mean that's happening right now Cuz is that so? Because in the aftermath of Charlottesville and stuff like yeah, you know, you ever heard the Daily Stormer It's like a Nazi website the they were reporting on that and like everyone got pissed off about Nazis And so the the company that hosted the Daily Stormer pulled the site because they're like we don't support this on our platform So they pulled the entire site even though they weren't technically doing anything illegal They took it down and then they went to Google to host it there and Google's like fuck you So now the site's gone and so that's yeah, that that's a great example That's exactly the same sort of issue here like that's that is a private hosting company deciding We don't want to host it but then like for political reasons nobody wants to host it and so there's a denial of service going on like your it's censorship By by you know by virtue of what it is if nobody question though is is this is this unfair or is this fair? I don't know how we got here from fucking pyramid schemes, but we're here. We are ladies and gentlemen I was I was just gonna say we ventured pretty far afield by now We have but I still want to get back at some point to turning the PCP into a pyramid scheme I think it's a very important topic. I think we can do it if we put our heads together Okay, okay. Let's let's think about this. All right. Well, we just will use the product joining the PCP I've got hang on. I've got it everybody Okay, all right the product that we're selling is podcast on the PCP channel what we do is we outsource people like Templates of like images or maybe like the theme song or whatever we give them assets to make their own Sounds like react world. I was just gonna say exactly That's that's where I'm going with this and so we this is sort of a licensing deal for us We give them people that they make their podcast and then they make money on them but they have to pay us a royalty for the usage of that shit and And then there you go Sounds like a great idea, and I no longer hate react world because I see that they were actually geniuses We need to succeed where they failed agreed They were visionaries. We need to we need to corner the market on actual literal PCP and Starting a multi-level marketing a corporation Drugs Brought to you by PCP guys. We've we've this is embarrassing. We've gotten away from our roots We need to get back to gallons of PCP You know and whatnot think about it like this Just just find five people to sell drugs for you and each of them finds five people to sell drugs for them By the time that you go down to two steps you're you're fucking Walter White only you don't die at the end spoilers for Yes, everything works out great for you forever. There's no problems All right, well, I'm down where just where where can we find drugs? We just gotta hit up my boys someone send send send someone send best guy ever's P. O. Box some drugs No, we can't do that because then we're in their pyramid scheme because we're relying on them for the drugs We can't that that'll fucking obvious obviously we're gonna start we're gonna start from ourselves We're gonna start with donations like our initial our initial source of capital will be will be donations It was donate drugs to the PCP pyramid scheme a hashtag PC pyramid scheme Find five people who will tweet it for you And then they'll find five people to eat it for them and on and on Yeah Here's how it works here. Here's what you have to do okay hashtag PC pyramid scheme and then tag tag five of your friends and they have to tag five of their friends and eventually Hashtag PC pyramid scheme will be will be a global worldwide phenomenon and everybody was saying what the fuck is this? This is not a joke everybody. This is real. This is real everybody. I go hashtag PC pyramid scheme tag five your friends and keep it going forever Yeah, I'm gonna do it right now actually good. All right. Let's let's get it rolling The people won't know for a week of what the fuck you're talking about, but No, that's right, that's right. I'm okay. I'm gonna wait I'm gonna wait until the day this airs and then I'll do it. Good thinking. Yes We'll all do it then you should just schedule the tweet So as soon as it goes up it posts and then you're fucking ready. Yeah, can you can you schedule a tweet? You have to be able to there's no way you can't schedule. So I've never heard of such I've never needed to do it, but you can schedule a word. There's no I've never heard of anyone scheduling a tweet You can you can schedule a patron post Okay, here's what you can do if you have to do a workaround you can have a video on YouTube You can schedule that video and then you can associate a tweet with that. That is true that video Worst case scenario you could do that What what what if we made what if we said um Make a make a fucking make a fucking YouTube video. That's uh, just Just the text hashtag PC pyramid scheme. It'll be like an ARG No one will know like just like a storm of videos hits starts hitting YouTube You know tag wait, can you tag people on YouTube? You can't can you know you can't you can put You can put their Twitter name in the title and when it tweets it out, they'll get hat mentioned on Twitter Okay, that's something. Yes. Yes All right, you know you can shoot you can choose you can choose whether you want to be a silver member Who's just who's just tweeting or if you want to be a gold member and be a member of the of the PC? President's Club President's Club You you make and make a video and tweet at the PC people who are gonna make video responses and they got a tag five more Yeah, we're gonna be rich guys Where does the money come from exactly? It'll it'll come it'll come From drugs like once everyone's excited about PC pyramid scheme done. We start selling drugs Everybody will be on drugs and everybody will be asking what is hashtag PC pyramid scheme? They're gonna look us up. They're gonna they're gonna say oh, I love this podcast They're gonna go on the patreon. They're gonna go pay loads of money and that's how we're gonna grow as a channel Oh, and you just make a reward tier That is the PC President's Club. So when everyone hears this one, they'll be oh, that's a good idea include Include them at TP Crastonators in your in your PC pyramid schemes tweet. Yes, please Yes, well, it'll have a hashtag PC pyramid scheme. So yeah, we can search for that. That's okay. Okay Well, I just meant to people I just meant so people would know that it's this is our this is our scam and and we're the one We can get immediately arrested when they figure out what we're doing Yes, this is good. This is good. I like this. I like where our heads at gentlemen. I think we've got big things coming to us Is that it wait? No, no, you gotta link our patreon. You gotta link every way. We don't have to go viral Oh, yeah, of course Oh and make and make sure to fake it till you make it tweet tweet hashtag PC pier Pyramid scheme and talk about and talk about how now that you now that you watch the PCP Now that you're getting all these sweet bonus episodes through our patreon. You're um, you're your your life is so much better You're being paid. You're being paid every fucking minute of every day We are we break rebranding the bonus episode here as the PC President's Club. Is that what's happening right now be the Got it. I've got it the you're being paid in attention. We're gonna pay attention to your tweets Ah Yeah, you gotta find five people who will pay you attention and then they'll find five people who will pay them attention Yeah, it's brilliant. It's it's it's gonna work guys What we're selling what we're selling what we're selling in this multi-level marketing company is mine chair in the public zeitgeist That's right. That's right. We're selling our current age of social media. What is more valuable than attention? Not money. I'll tell you that not a damn thing. Not a damn thing. We'll pay you an exposure. It's This whole this whole scheme is just it's just it's the exposure is just traveling up the line More exposure being paid to your upline and they're paying their upline and on and on until it all reaches us and we become legendary viral superheroes Fantastic, that's the end goal, but don't tell anyone We're doing we're this we're gonna pretend we're doing a public service, but we won't say what that service is the PC public service PS we got the PC PC the PC PS what else the PC PC D the PC be I don't know These are all the sacred words of our viral marketing campaign words of power attack kill These words used by an elite group of online hackers known as the PC Alright, so there you go. We've rolled out our whole whole operation really We've really made a lot of progress. We banged out a whole business model in what like 40 minutes. Yes. Yeah Yeah, and it's not a joke. It's not a joke. You have to do it if you're watching this I'm gonna do this when this fucking video goes live Of course this video will be tweeted with the hashtag PC pyramid scheme Oh, the hashtag should be edited into the video covering most of the This is the first video of the gold tier is is making a video with Hashtag PC pyramid scheme. Yeah. Yeah, the publicly available one to to to get him in to get him on board Yeah, yeah Give him a taste show everyone how much better your lives can be with with hashtag PC pyramid scheme in your life All right. Well that said I feel like we're good. Let's how about we go over to questions now I think we're all set any any final points to make about pyramid schemes in general Don't do them Not right not recommended. Oh, I did just want to say that my only exposure to one was in Welcome to the NHK welcome to the NHK. Oh, there was a Simpsons one too But when that lady was doing it and it looked real spooky, so don't do it. It's not good Oh, it's Sato like the main character bought into him. Yeah, they're really sad The way they pray on like vulnerable weak people is like the most evil thing in the world So remember all of our audience, please hash treat the hashtag PC pyramid scheme Oh, yeah, I changed my mind do them do them do them all start while you're young Well, that's what makes our special ours is the one that's not like that ours is really good and remember It's multi-level marketing. It's not a pyramid scheme hashtag PC pyramid scheme That's what they do by the way The biggest repeated phrase in MLM is like it's not a pyramid scheme pyramid schemes are illegal and what we're doing is legal So clearly it's not a pyramid scheme guys. That's our quote. That's our that's our Fray that's our story and we're sticking to it hashtag not illegal Again, were you saying something about this? Only that I've never seen a human being do this in my life. I've only ever heard about it No one's ever approached me to say, please buy some matches or something I Want there was a traumatic event in my life that was directly related to a pyramid scheme So I was at a football game and there were a bunch of cheerleaders and they started climbing on each other's shoulders And it was it got more horrible. It just they formed this triangular shape right in front of me Oh, God, I couldn't fucking deal that. Yeah, I There was there was a scheme It wasn't those crafty sluts. I hate them. How dare they to make that pyramid. That's for sure. They were they had designs It wasn't a pyramid scheme per se But there was another time that I got called by a company that wanted me to come and listen to a pitch for a fucking time share You guys know about time shares a little bit You sort of you buy property and then rent it to other people is the gist I think the idea is that you're renting a property, but you're renting it collectively with like other people So you're so you're paying rent on this you're paying rent on this property But you're only paying for it for like, you know, like one month out of the year or something like that So like you you make money from this or is it just for your enjoyment? No, I Think you're maybe supposed to I just know I'd really like to rent that house. I can't live in it, but you know, that'll be fun The pitch gotta be a money thing It's got some for the person owning that property that sounds amazing because you can definitely charge more than just regular rent Yeah, and then you get it for 12 different people. You're like making twice normal rent on the property you own Oh my god, people with money are so privileged. I hate them all People with money are so dumb. What are they doing? The pitch for the pitch for time shares is like like imagine being able to say I've got a little place in the Swiss Alps cuz like for one month out of the year So you can go on like holiday for one month and just lie Just I guess you can just lie. You can just lie. Yeah, you don't have to buy it to say that nobody Like what I got fly to the fucking Swiss Alps No, but I got but I got called by a timeshare company and like they were they gave me this song and dance about like Oh, we've got a big opportunity for you and at some point. I realized it was a timeshare It was so I was like I was wise so they were like so will you be attending and I was like I'm gonna fuck these guys And I was like, yeah reserve that chair for Make sure not to extend this invitation to anyone else. I'm gonna be there But I think they knew master puppeteer you know I think they could tell from my tone cuz the lake cuz my tone changed and the lady started being like um So and I was like, yep, I'm gonna be there. I'm good cuz I went from I went from skeptical to like full-on Enthusiasm and I think she knew something was off, right, but I did my but I did my best I I own an entire tectonic plate guys Oh Come visit for one for in the middle of the Pacific Ocean for one sixteenth of a second out of each year I own the continent of Australia. Yes, excellent. You're the king All right, let's let's go to our questions everybody. Let's okay. Here we go Okay, here's one that I don't understand why it's here at meaty learner 509 asks on average How many times does the best guy ever say? Sorry, okay on average how many times per day does best guy ever say, haha. Well, all right Pretty much constantly I don't do I say that is that like it? Sounds like the kind of thing you say it's the number of houses very specific Yeah, only two you can't have more than that. I'll give it 20 20 times per day That seems reasonable. Oh It's somebody check in the other the patron one for questions. Oh, these are from the Twitter I actually see a good one here from our at ourettes underscore who asks what the fuck constitutes a good question Hey, that is an excellent question. Yeah, so there you go. Just be like just ask this question and you're safe Yeah, there you go. That's the answer to that one. A good a good question But it is not some meme shit like a good question like actually demands some like discussion to come to an answer a Good a good question is something that like one or more of us is actually interested in addressing. Yes. Yeah, and also Nothing ever to do with favorites Yeah Basically basically a good question is a question that we couldn't answer on Twitter itself It has to be more than 140 characters requiring the answer So we can actually get into it and actually think a little bit as opposed to just being like, what's your favorite anime? That's a yeah, that's I gotta say that what's your favorite anime is the worst question It is the worst question possibly as Like a lot of people ask questions that are like the meme that currently makes them giggle Let's ask about that like I mean someone tweeted here like death grips is online Like I know that's a meme going on right now and I know death grips are cool and all I guess that was a little bit better because it is kind of like a but what are we supposed to what are we supposed to say about that? Exactly, that's what makes it a yeah If the punchline is the question instead of the answer then you fucked up. Yeah, I would say that's fair But then again, there was exceptions to everything So if you just have like a genius idea then shoot it out But you know, yeah, that'd be a genius You can take that risk if you want but you you risk public ridicule for everyone to hear so indeed Step forward brave. So well here's a kind of a question by fado on the fado on the patreon lounge Is there a difference between favorite and best? Absolutely No Some people say there isn't but I've always disagreed with that I think that if you wait, I feel like deja vu I feel like I argued this a long time ago vehemently and was furious about it for weeks I think that's true. I think but I don't remember when but my position my position on this is that if you think something If something is your favorite that means that to you it is the best so like To be like oh well this thing is my like I like to me. This is the best But like I really it's not the best like the best is this other thing because other people see it this way Like that's bullshit like that's just being fucking dishonest. Is that true across all categories? Yeah, I think so I don't think it's a true across categories dealing with like like Observable facts and figures If you're talking about if you're talking about like I don't know some medicine or something and maybe like some medicine in like 90% Of cases has no adverse side effects and is great But to you it has adverse side effects like sure you can be like yeah like well This doesn't work for me like like to me this other medicine is better But in but okay, but if we're talking if we're talking about statistical something about art But if we're talking about art and opinions I think it's really disingenuous to be like this one's my favorite But I think this one is better, but not for me. Yeah, I agree with Ben on this with regard with regards to art I feel like there's no like like like I think of it Where it would not sound weird like who are you just who are you to speak on behalf of the General population no you can only speak for yourself on these matters you can okay Like if there's a show that you like because you were a kid and you really liked it So you have like a personal attachment to it But as you've got older like for me the Bible black English dub is horrendous, but I love it It's like my favorite thing in the world It's like it's like the best dub ever to me even though there are dubs like I don't know Bakano or whatever they're like technically wonderful But like I like the Bible black dub because it's so fucked up and retarded like it's clear Which of those is better, but I like the Bible black one because it's got this you know special thing that I like about it What about that business well you did the I mean It's one thing to recognize that more people like another thing than then your favorite thing But like what's the point of being like okay? Well, this one's my favorite, but this other one that other people like that one's technically better like what's the Personal preference those are two different things. I think I think instead of saying your favorite Yeah, yeah, yeah, those are those are two different things, but like why would you use why would you so you got to fucking specify? Okay, hang on. All right. Yeah, I think the way it should be is that cuz like a lot of people us included say Oh man, that's the best thing I've ever seen and we don't actually mean like best. We're not thinking of it like that We're just saying I really really like it, right? It's um so I feel like if you're talking if you're going to say this is what's considered the best you just say This is the consensus masterpiece. This is consensus favorite and But this one's the best this because you're trying to convince people usually Yeah, I feel like I feel like best and favorite are interchangeable I see nowadays I think we all understand what the word favorite means It's just like the thing that you get the most enjoyment out of you like the most if we're just talking about art You know as one subcategory, but I think we need to define the word best I think that's entirely where the problem lies in this discussion So what do we actually mean when we say best here like the one that the most people like yeah me But is the one that the most people like as it is like it's got the on average highest score Or is it the most technically provisioned? I think the scientists would say this is the most perfectly The technical proficiency, okay, like this is the best art like the most like technically There's like there's like tears there's like very obvious tears Within which there's like very you know like there's the stuff that's like really well done But it's what's the best it comes a lot down to personal preference, and then this thing Oh, you said what's the best comes to personal preference, but it's the best of sort of objective all right I'm saying oh lord Okay, okay saying is what I'm saying is there are say video games There are games that are just broken and don't work and nobody likes them And then there are games that are you know really really good But nobody not a single like there's no consensus on what is the best So the word best is kind of meaningless and it's interchangeable with favorite when you're saying like what's the best of a Series of games that are all great a brilliant like nobody will ever agree So best and favorite will be interchangeable in that situation But what if you're comparing like okay? Something that just doesn't work with something that is really good Then there is a clear usage of that while this is better I guess I guess my my perspective on it has always been that the best is referring to technical measurable Quant like aspects of a work and favorite is just like emotional like how you feel I don't I don't think it makes sense to judge based on Use best as a substitute for favorite I think that the way it is is like that the closer you get to the the the mythical best thing The less useful the word best becomes Because people stop agreeing with each other I think using the word best to describe an opinion is worthless because it doesn't mean anything But if you're talking about best in terms of a quantifiable aspect it totally makes sense And how do we deal with the issue of ironic enjoyment of things like my Bible black dub? That's like my favorite like I like that basically ironically It was not intended to be good, but it is good in like the room and shit like that's a whole like best versus Favorites when you consider that shit like those are on the opposite side of the spectrum people people still use the word best But they say oh, it's the best worst thing ever I would say the room is like but but if I like the room is like my favorite movie Which it is one of and I then like it totally would not be even close to like the best movie ever made But it is among my favorites. I think like how do you get that? I think that even if you're enjoying something ironically if you're getting the most enjoyment out of it out of all the things then Yeah, it's your it should be your favorite thing So even if it like accidentally became entertaining it good like the room then like it's still it still is what it is And you can judge it by like I really think that it all just comes down to how much enjoyment Do I get out of this thing and like looking at it from like oh well? What's technically the best? What's done? What's most popular? I think those things are like I don't see the point in evaluating a works when somebody when somebody has When somebody has a best and they say it's the best technically I I don't feel anything from their recommendation because it's not their favorite I Think what what it comes down to is that the technical best is kind of useless for me because I don't get the sense that Like I don't know what they mean. Hmm. I don't know it's it's it's hard to explain. I had a point Yeah, like yeah best If you're if you're talking about art, what's the point of knowing which is the best wouldn't you rather know someone's favorite? Because like that's the one they actually liked more so you know what who fucking cares what's the best art? I mean I see where that's coming from I just I just don't think the word makes any sense if it doesn't mean what Tom was saying it means and it's like some sort of Yeah, but the thing is people people just use it like that Best incorrectly all the time because I don't think the best talks about subjective opinion I mean eventually best is going to mean favorite because of the way people are continually using it wrong, right? Because basically the moral of the story is everyone's fucking retarded except for the moral of the story to me is that language is way Too fucking imprecise and it's incredibly frustrating because the whole point of our argument here Is that we don't agree on what the words mean and if we did this is why yeah Language has to be replaced with hip thrusts And and and funny poses that's the only real language whoa funny poses is that a Jojo reference, dude? Yeah, it's a meme. I don't know. I was thinking Z it's people people will get it. They'll know you force Oh, those are good. Those are good guys. Would you want to name pick another question? I think all right I think I think we've Run this one into the ground ladies and gentlemen. That's an example of a good question. Yeah Yeah, that one insights debate cuz it's like who couldn't you can know the truth Hey, here's a question from my at on Twitter at lamp pros from gr. Yeah, okay asks Do you like horror films? If yes any expectations for the upcoming movie it I do not really like So Yeah, no, I just wanted to say it sucks Make a video with as the title it's not out yet. So I will believe it A couple people I follow on Twitter saw and they said it was amazing. Oh, okay Well, I'm amazing did they huh? They said it was like any of the general consensus from what I can tell us That's the best even King adaptation I just saw the dark tower dude, and that was a 10 out of 10. I didn't actually see it I Have no fear. I don't care about horror really. It scares me It's either scary or boring. Oh, okay. Well, dude, that's the thing Okay, so I hated horror for a million years until I played Silent Hill 2 and 3 and now I have found myself games are different games are different because Like I love Resident Evil 1 on PlayStation. I Haven't played any other versions I'm sure it is but like it's it's just like the fact that I can nothing will happen unless You fool like like like the thing with a game a horror game is it's all down to you You have to push forward Like like in a movie when somebody when somebody's about to open a thing you and you tense up and you say no Don't go in there. You are the guy who is not gonna go in there But you have to do it to conclude it's like the tension is so much higher because you have to do it Work's way better in games than it does in movies for sure, you know About you it's happening to you. I just watched um it follows the other day Which I thought was it was like more artsy than it was like horrific though. It was pretty scary Yeah, I think after I play Sound Hill like I do have more of a taste for them And I I'm enjoying them more. I I said before that I don't like horror movies But not too long ago. I watched one called creep. Have any of you seen it? No, no Creep it it's it's it's really great. It's really fucking great. It's not There's it's not some like ghosts some ghost story bullshit It's not there's there's jump scares But like they are there for a reason and they make sense in the fiction why there would be a jump scare Okay, and it's it's it's really unlike any other horror movie I've seen before and it's really fucking good and It's like it's like funny too Like like this like the situation is scary intense But it's also kind of like funny and absurd in a way. How old is this film? Not less than a decade. I think like it's not it's not recent, but it's not old either at least I don't think so. Yeah, I highly recommend a creep So um, yeah, but that doesn't say anything about it. I don't care about it I'm not gonna see it. Oh, right. I forgot about it Um, I I had recently watched actually the the entire old like adaptation of the of the old us You know it adaptation or whatever that had Tim Curry and shit And I I quite liked that even though it's been memed on a lot with the the balloons and the clowns and you know That crazy shit. I quite like that and I was Definitely not. I mean, I'm sure it was in the camp of most people thinking like I mean, I'm well known to hate Uh remakes and shit and that's what this is. So can't say I was really looking forward to it But I am sort of interested to see because I just like horror movies now And uh, I don't know like this guy looks kind of cool And I'm just curious to see if it does well and whoever just said that it's been getting good reviews Like that's the first I've heard of its actual quality. So I probably will go see it and uh, yeah You know I'm kind of excited to see it. I just I just hate being afraid because I'm constantly Afraid of my own inevitable demise. So I don't need to add to that fear So I I agree generally the feeling of being spooked is not a pleasant one that I don't know not at all Creep didn't spook me. Well, I guess it kind of did. I don't know I didn't mind the feeling it gave me I like I like the feeling of being spooked where my retarded reaction can entertain other people Like my like I used to play resident evil Uh with my brother in the room and you know, he would just look at me going Because he was for some reason like like better at dealing with it And it was just it was just like the dogs burst through the window and every single time I jumped and I screamed And it was hilarious and I like the fact that that was funny And then it was like it was really it was really nice after it was like, oh, phew Are you picking another question name? No, no, no, just I have a question about this topic And it was just were horror films invented to to to force teenagers to sex each other Is that what they you know, you know what I'm saying Do you mean to force them to sex each other in the films or to force them to sex each other in the theaters In the theater in the theaters. Is this a a breeding scheme? You know to make them be spooked and I don't think they were invented for that But they've been co-opted by teenagers and we need to we need to take them back We need to wage war. I agree. They have terrible. Would you not agree? I mean, I've only watched a few horror films because not my thing But would you not agree that the PG-13 rating is the kiss of death for a horror film? I don't know enough to say but it seems that way. Let me let me look and see what creep was rated You know what? I actually I just downloaded Fuck what's the one about? God, I don't want to say but it's the one about the black people that came out recently. You know what I'm talking about Get out the family get out get out. I swear guys. It's it's just that's the distinguishing characteristic for the film But yeah, like I downloaded that and I've been wanting to watch it But then I think back to my experience when I'm watching When I when I was watching, uh, fuck Is it it follows? Yeah, it was it follows and like so that movie was good But then I remember the moment-to-moment experience of watching it as I'm like wanting to die because like okay, so the the scary thing in that movie is like There is a creature it or whatever that just it follows you but it walks very slowly But the thing is it can take on the appearance of anyone at any time So like in a crowd it could be any of the people there And you get it by like having sex with someone who like it's following currently it doesn't matter But like oh the spooks. Oh the spooks really got to me. It was uh Oh was painful like that's like the pain of watching But it's the release that comes when you get like you get through it and you're okay And you can reflect on it that feels that feels good. I like that Creep creep is rated r although. I think it pretty easily could have been a pg-13 So I had dude. What if because you were saying about ratings. I just had this idea What if just like spicy curries and stuff the the spooky things would have a rating system Instead of scoville units or whatever it is. It'll be like spookville units And how it is will be denominated by little little ghost emojis next to the thing and if it's got five You want to see in the world, dude Wow I I would like that It's like it's only got two two ghosts on that on the spookville rating. That's not scary enough for me Uh, that that's good. Uh, well, we're basically out of questions on the twitter. We got any others on the that's not true I'm looking at the twitter right now and I want to answer this one from ajcase 997 Uh, you're on a deserted island with one other pcp member. Who do you take munchie? No one survive Well, well you you're stranded on a pc on on an island you get to have one other pcp member with you Who do you take munchie? There's no question. There's no yeah, mage. I'll fight you Too late. You have munchie. All right fine uh Can I take another of myself? That's That's what I would take if I oh, of course I really am the best Oh my god, I can imagine both of me. You just jumped the space. I ever jumped the shark. I forgive me everyone Uh, okay, I I'm out of questions on here. Do we have any others to answer in the in the thing? Oh, it's terrible Here's a question. I want to know the answer too. Uh, funky asks hippo. Will you ever talk about jack x? Um Maybe I have played it, but I'm not enough to have an opinion yet Wait a minute hold the presses everybody. Oh, actually, sorry finish your finish your point that I'll that I'll respond I'm sorry. Uh, no my point's done. Okay. It was just uh, I see an important question here by malady on the patron lounge The thing it says how can I throw money at the pcp? Oh my god, everybody go on over to patreon.com slash the procrastinators You've got a great great question. Great question. Best one I've heard so far. That's an ideal question That is perfect. That is perfect. Uh, uh, yeah pledge pledge money guys If you pledge a dollar, uh, I think it's the minimum to get into the patron lounge where we where we check for questions here That uh, you know, we we look there more closely than on the twitter, uh, and you can buy Fuck what else? Oh, yeah, five dollars to get into the bonus episodes. There's four No, there's six out now including the death note one. We just did uh, we got t-shirts available There's a link in the description. We get money from that shit and I think that's everything Hashtag pc pyramid scheme hashtag pc page president's club. Yes, wait, wait, wait before we end. Um, I Is a pressing question from uh at santita mulis on twitter. Uh, are you going to throw a turning 30 party for ben? I don't know guys. Are you? Well, I'll get back to you in what like eight months or whatever when it's your birthday again Um, you're gonna you're gonna have to you're gonna have to start planning before then You guys are gonna have to really really big old bash We're gonna we're ben's gonna walk into the room We're gonna shout surprise as we all gather on the centerpiece of the grand guillotine in the center of the room We know what you really want for your birthday ben You guys you guys really you guys really know what i'm about his head just gonna roll Is gonna look up at nape like you really are the best guy I And a innate nods Nate nods knowing his turn is coming Oh, that'll be great. And then one day, you know in like 10 years or whatever when we all turn 30 Only mungee will remain as the sole surviving member and then it'll be his job to decapitate the He'll he'll just he'll just wear a necklace of our skulls. Yeah. Yeah, I would expect nothing less He'd wear them around his wrists, like a little bracelet on his giant, meaty hand, on his gigantic figure. That's true. As our power levels dissipate, they will be absorbed by Munchy, as we're all executed internally. He will only grow more massive in size as he does that shit. Alright, well that's it everybody. We're all done for the week. Here we go. I just want to reiterate again. Hashtag PC Pyramid Scheme. Tweet it. Tweet about how great your life is. Tweet about how thankful you are for the opportunity to watch the PCP. How you're your own man and how you're making a sustainable living by watching the PCP. Hashtag PC Presidents Club. Make videos showing how rich you are. 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