 this is something that nobody prepares for and i'm trying to tell you guys but how could you work like that can you work like that oh my sniffers okay guess what i'm here today with heather and we are going to an adopt a bird appointment at a parrot sanctuary she contacted me and said i'm going to a parrot sanctuary do you want to come i didn't know that she's seriously thinking of adopting a bird she loves my birds but i'm driving with her this whole way giving her the lecture on why she doesn't want a bird i read a text to her from my friend that said basically in a nutshell i don't know what to do i love my bird but the bird screams every time i leave the room only wants to be with me won't let anybody else hold it completely destroys stuff all day long it's very hard for me to work with a bird screaming in my ear it sounds like a dream come true that sounds like a dream come true that's what i told this person before they got a bird now here's the thing what i told heather is that that's all birds all birds are like that right so are you seriously gonna like try to adopt positively so listen i grew up with budgies and cockatiels and of course i've been over to your house and i love your birds i'm enamored when she has parties i don't really talk to the people i talk to the birds and i would love to rescue if i can because god knows there's plenty of animals that need rescuing right yeah it's good that you want to rescue but i will say you know like how people talk about babies and they say i love visiting the babies and then i can give them back right that's why you like birds at my house but i liked my birds growing up i would spend hours in my room that was like a cockatiel which is the best and you know when you're a kid and you have nothing else to do but play yeah that's kind of me anyway at the stage of the game i hope so because i'm telling you like so you think you're ready for a bird oh yeah are you ready for a toddler like do you want to be a mom again um forever a mom forever yeah i am a mom so a mom forever sounds pretty good your daughter's like grown now like yeah she is how do you feel about because she is a huge animal person yeah it's not like but what if the bird only likes one of you that's what's gonna happen well what happens if one of them leaves and isn't around that's the problem then the bird screams his head off and hates you yes and then it gets very angry until your daughter comes back or won't let your daughter be stressed free because you're not home have you thought about this yes no kind of yeah no this never could have occurred because i went over to your house and when i went over there with my first leo liked me okay and then i took my daughter over there and he was like oh oh you're so pretty to my daughter and so i was shafted okay and so whenever i bring her over i'm not the special one anymore so i kind of just came to yeah but maybe that's why you're in search of being special and now when you're going to go find your special bird you're going to bring it home and it could love her and then what happens well then that's her bird and i will love it and get another one because god knows you can never have too many birds yes you can six okay two or three okay the good news here is we're going to the rescue we're going to check it out we're going to watch her go through the process of possibly wanting a bird i feel like i'm in military boot camp like i better shape up or ship out so listen here's the thing the reason that i'm trying to discourage you from getting a bird is because what happens all the time people see birds they're amazing they're fascinating you can't get enough nobody that comes to my house ever gets enough of them they're obsessed but then they get one and they say oh my god i wasn't ready to be a mom or i'm over being a mom or i'm i have to keep my eye on this bird all day long oh my god if i'm not with it it's in the cage i feel guilty right and all these things and then they give the bird up and it's really emotionally traumatic for birds so that's why i get to discourage people from getting birds and i would have him or her like be with me travel with me love me and always be there is i would always be there is there a chance is there a chance you're looking for love and not a bird probably so then maybe this isn't the best idea no but i'm i love animals what animals do you have at home right now i have two all minor rescued two dogs and three cats oh i don't know how are you gonna bring a bird home to those animals well i would definitely make sure that they are um supervised at all times i think this is gonna be a lot for you because you now have to take a bird home and then supervise it with all of these animals all of the time well the bird would be with me and then where do the animals go after that well they can be around it's so long as i'm in the area it kind of dies yeah don't they like chase things well you did chase a rabbit or not a rabbit but it's it's not a rabbit anymore she's a rescue she doesn't chase and i've gotten she lives with cats we'll see we'll see except you can't take it home and see you might have a difficult house to bring a bird to because then all those animals are going to get booted there's no way you have to have the bird out all the time and unless you train every single cat and cat saliva is like toxic so even if the cat like licks the bird it's toxic to the uh that i didn't know there when a bird's wings flap oh my god marlene don't don't break or burst my bubble no but it has to be safe for the bird you have to think of these things this is the thing nobody thinks of these things maybe we're going up for a bird for marlene no no well we'll go look okay i'll let i'm gonna i'm gonna leave her with that for now but you've got starbucks let's let's think first i've got a baby cat that came into the house with lots of birds right and she has her own territory and she's like one cat now you see all my dogs they don't even chase birds out in the wild right it's not impossible by the way it's not impossible i'm not saying it's impossible i'm just saying i'm getting anxiety okay well wait well i'm we're gonna we're gonna stop this and let her get get driving and then we'll continue this when we're there oh my god i'm in trouble you're not in trouble we're gonna go just give love to some birds right now and see what you think yeah okay guys i think we're at our house so i might not film it i don't know oh she meant i have to go all the way down there i refuse to get in her car i was like i'm out in the sun i don't want to go back in oh okay it's not that far okay good hey guys we are inside parrot's first it's amazing in here all the birds have huge cages play stands tons and tons of toys um we are in a house so you do have to make an appointment if you did want to come down here and basically they have a lot of foster facilities for the birds so that's how they're able to take care of so many of them and you guys it literally is like my house times i don't know ten in here but the birds are like out and happy and beautiful and understood like those guys you guys see them the two macaws in their box it's just like how Vinny has to have these box it's amazing but you guys know how it is with birds and heather's learning right now about how hard it is to take care of birds so that's why we promote responsible parrot companionship so um let's just get a word in here my name is rosalie i'm the founder of parrot 22 years ago and we adopted out probably more than 250 birds she told me that you offer a class and you won't let any birds go without a class what do you teach in the class the class is basics we have found over the years that even people who had birds in their care for many years have not kept up on what what is right and what what to do with the birds you know it used to be believed that you just gave them a bubble seeds and that was it they never saw that people complained that they got a toy for their bird but the bird chewed it up so they don't get them anymore so we educate people and especially those who offer you had birds it's amazing what you do because it takes a special person to handle birds and that's why everybody wants birds when if you love animals and you meet a bird you want a bird but it's just it's one of the hardest animals to own and to have because you've got to keep the bird with you all day long because keep in mind it's not like your dog your bird is in a cage locked up if you're not giving it that consistent attention and not only that birds cannot be not watched if you guys know what i mean like my dog could be outside but if my bird is quiet something's up like they're eating your wall or your your chairs we have we have doors that have holes in them we have woodwork on yeah we can't leave them unattended it's you can't teach them not to chew yeah you can give them plenty of things to chew in their cage but if you don't watch them they can't tell the difference they'll eat your baseboards they'll eat your table they'll eat everything they ate all my chairs over there yeah you can't have wood furniture you can't have teflon pans you can't have certain plants you can't have fans on you got to be careful of ovens your whole life changes do you have cats cats it's a live a toxic like it's just never ending so you may not be the right person for a parrot and if you commit to a parrot and give it up it's detrimental to the bird and there's an example of how loud parrots can be on top of all this so we're here looking for a potential companion for heather what do you think so far i want them all they love them all but i know that i am not prepared to have all of them what about one of them one of them yeah which one ready he sniffs so good you know your sniffs so just smell like they should whoa so you've got to learn the song this is going to do it again i liked i liked your addition there that was good ready you like it he sniffs so cool they should whoa she's gonna need the the rock version of the sniffer song okay you go for the rock version well no i don't know if i can i'm just saying this is azi azi's looking for a really good home with a patient person and azi's gonna turn into the best bird in the world there's a lot of beautiful birds here there's those two in the box that don't want me to come over there do you want dancing to the sniffer song you want to try i know you like dancing you sniff so good sometimes birds just smell like they should whoa you sniff so good yeah you're getting into it now i see ty loves dancing do you does he dance that's so funny because my macaw he insists that i sing to him every night and he goes like this like with his hands which means sing and so i started letting him watch tv that has like music in it so now he screams to watch tv he has to watch tv he has to watch empire because he loves the music you want to dance yeah i think a lot of birds too i agree get out this is merlin merlin's beautiful look at all the toys the birds have guys they're so well taken care of nobody's in there but all these birds have so much wants attention do you want to dance oh baby baby how was i supposed to know look at the hair going up she's like yeah hi that's something wasn't right yeah oh baby baby i shouldn't have lived it's here job you're the singer here no but i don't know that's gonna have to be merlin not my fault my birds listen to britney so you have this guy right here that's super playful once you get a bird like this home and you're the sole person right then they're gonna like right now this bird is feeling like a bond to her so right i see that he doesn't like to come off like her to me or anything like that so that's the way it works that's also a dynamic that might happen with you and your daughter that you have to be you know aware of that happens a lot when you dropped out a bird one person in a couple of months the other one really just going along and then the bird comes with the one who's the opposite and the other one gets that and we either end up taking the bird back or they decide to get another bird for the other and then that bird loves that person too right right all of the cockatoos that we have adore my husband so what do you want to talk about hey guys you hear the bird in the back that's a bird just like tie a lesser self-regressive cockatoo and that's what it's like when you turn your back on a bird so i mean this is something that nobody prepares for and i'm trying to tell you guys but how could you work like that can you work like that you have to really think can you do your school homework is your mom gonna allow that now what about you what about this bird how's this bird's temperament out of all the parrots here which of the birds do you not have a bond with like your husband you don't like your footsie down that's okay that's okay do you like he's not a fan he's not happy what do you talk about Merlin oh do you like the camera you look interested what are you interested in setting up his cage i let's do something and i said oh that's not gonna work so then the next day i came and put in the paper and it's not gonna work are you serious you said that's not gonna work let's check temperament is that scary to you a little a little have you ever stepped up on anybody before 20 years with the same one yes he she could do anything with him oh really he's still getting over it hold them too much the door open for you right okay you won't change him just talk okay so smart how are you doing you're beautiful when i change his food and water and he'll yell to me i want water you want water you know i think that when they have a little bit of the red factor like geniuses i really do i think he looks at me like i'm stupid you missing some feathers did you pull them out i would do that too yeah do you want to step up no that's okay that's okay if you don't want to that's okay okay you're on the ground this is good news because when african greys are on the ground they might consider stepping up would you consider stepping up pretty this is like a case of a bird that's like testing me out do you know what i mean the bird's like it'll be difficult yeah but i see something it's like typical african gray behavior they're so smart yeah that i think my brother is babysitting an african gray um an umbrella cockatoo and a rose-breasted cockatoo of my fans right now and he said what he noticed is like the gray is just watching and absorbing that's his first like experience with a gray in his house all day yeah and he probably wants to be like a one bird person so like if he he loves the noise though he talks to them and thinks oh George used to do that walk backwards like my bird George yeah right you want to step up oh that was fast i'm sorry i know you weren't expecting it you're a good boy it's okay i'm here for you i promise your name is merlin and mine is marlene you see this is good news i totally get you hi you're so handsome you're so handsome you are so handsome i'm gonna go potty go potty first okay he went potty good boy okay i'm not moving fast good boy good boy it's okay you're scared of the camera it's okay okay okay we're coming over we're good we're good we're good okay so guys in a case like this if you actually get the bird on your hand you want to take it out of its territory and work with it so the bird right now is looking for anything familiar that it can stand on you know preferably his cage but if i was to take him out of the situation and work with him then i would have developed with him so much farther it's okay now this is when you do the step up he wants to go somewhere so you start practicing step up good bird good bird it's okay but you see his cage is there so that's why it's not working but if you can use that to do the step up he's aware it's okay handsome you are handsome i know it's loud it's okay we're good and then you want to make sure your hand is all to stable because birds don't trust instability so you know and then when you're a new bird don't put them on your shoulder real quick or anything because you just don't know birds are unpredictable now africans typically won't talk in front of anybody new no like at all it's okay light it i'm afraid he'll fly like into the window or something do you want to go down we can step down here look look look look let's step down here so you know that i will put you in a safe spot okay you're good and then we can try again you're good he's cruising the table oh you've got newspapers do you want to step up again so rose is this the first time he's been on i mean he's stepped up for you and been able to go on the table he's stepped up for me when he's on the floor on the floor on the cake good bird would he trust me he does trust you so like now bird like this i could take anywhere in the house because at least he'd step up and then just hang out with him and just include him in everything i go shower put him on the top i go eat i put him on a stand next to me if he doesn't want to be on me he's on a stand next to me i watch tv i put the bird there this is how you get a bird tame right and that's the problem here because with so many birds he doesn't have all of that oh that's the that's i always say like the the next bird like he was like the fifth bird in my house and being the fifth bird he okay does much or they might not tell you as much hey you are so so you're so so good you're such a good boy you're such a good thing i'm good to steal the kids do you want to go for a little walk do you want to go for a walk short walk look okay okay where are you going no he's not he's not concerned about my like like i even have my finger over his footsie so not so concerned it's more like he is curious and hasn't seen everything yet are you curious what are you curious about yeah hello hey everyone under you sometimes after you raise needs to scope out their whole surrounding so they have in their head what it is that they're missing out on because they're that smart and they need to be aware okay look you see he saw me chill out yes i need to know like who's where you have beautiful red feathers step up you are a good boy you're so good and then when you're training keep them lower than you okay i mean this actually could be a good bird for you me really not kidding wow because they're a little bit easier african braids you kind of have to chase them around less except for my cody who's a nutcase and they're deeply intellectual he's a little bit of a bigger bird so you have other animals i bet i could put him on you right now thanks watch we could do arm i could get him on your arm let's see okay no and then fingers the other way yeah are you gonna be a shoulder merl this is honestly okay put your arm out again you're good you're good step up all right so just for reduced to yeah maybe just for reduced to a one person so yeah so he's like don't make me beyond multiple people but if i put the camera down it'd be easier for them wow look at what we did i know you would do it okay but now put your other hand in between me and you'll see like but this way this way they like perch but thumb down type of thumb yeah there you go make it higher than him there you go down to the other side there you go step up step up be strong because he needs to have a exactly lower than you lower than you there you go good boy it's okay it's okay i love that you guys are hearing this because you know a one person bird with somebody i was like oh we can make this bird come around and i know african graze when they get on the ground they don't like to be on the ground they'll they'll step up to you so we work like that now in my assessment of what bird here needs would do best out of here in a home it would be merlin because merlin doesn't like the noise of the other birds so much and merlin needs a one assessment of the best bird for heather it seriously takes a bird would be merlin because african graze kind of are the type of bird that they're not as big clowns and they kind of will sit and chill i mean we know kody's a clown but george wasn't they're intellectuals you can still work they're not screaming like the cockatoo in the back they're more so talking konyers will also do their screaming a lot less but it's still loud and the fact that we got merlin to step up on heather i think it's a big deal honestly so we have to see is like 20 is that right he's already talking no he talks really well but like the fact that some vocalizations are coming out of them when african graze won't really talk if someone's around hi sweetie are you gonna talk would you consider taking a bird like merlin huh yeah i would do you want to come home to my home what's the hesitancy or that wasn't no no that's not how i'm just trying to be calm around him so i don't freaking out well a bird like this i can then come to your house and help you you will come every day i will make this bird like like i i love african graze they're my like speciality you are so handsome so handsome but what does it take now if she wanted to adopt merlin like just give me the rundown on how that works now well she did submit an application which i have not reviewed yet but yeah i just got there oh she submitted and um she needed to take a basic bird care class good that's right and we need to do a home visit okay see what that sounds like what might be dangerous for the bird you're right you're right absolutely that right there is an outstanding parrot rescue application bird class home visit don't ever be offended that's so so essential to the safety of our birds so many people are offended you can't come to my home no i can't have my bird absolutely absolutely they shouldn't be offended they need to know what it takes to re-haul these birds and care for them and if there's dangers in the home or i i agree with you 100 100 percent and i think anybody that has good intentions for the bird you put him back yeah i feel like he wanted he did a little finger but i feel like he needed he wanted to go back so now when you're training him at home you want to keep him away from that and get him relaxed in a new environment once you put him back it's a whole nother thing to get him out again okay well we could see we could see he does look like a little hot he's too hot he's way too sweet yeah yeah i'm thinking i might even miss him i would miss him he looks like does he like mist would you go in the shower and take a shower yeah do you love the shower that kind of love so handsome okay they do this they trick you they want headscratch but then they they totally okay you need a little you need a spritzer yeah i like the way that sprayed my baby how are you now will he be very um our african gray is really i mean you said he was bonded to this woman for years are there any parents that bond to several people or is it usually just one person no it's individual with the birds we've had you know some people say oh cockatoo only bond to one person or but no that's not true um it depends on the bird yeah now look at jersey she's a cockatoo that likes all the men that come in yeah she does there yeah there's a chance that you could take the bird home and it's only gonna like you or your daughter but that also depends on socialization right if i took that bird and didn't hang out with the bird when i saw that the bird liked me if i just took the bird and didn't let you hold it then it's only gonna like me so if you're two people in a house you have to like 50 50 you have to be like listen if you don't want the bird to hate you you have to spend a good amount of time and you have to let her spend that time because the bird needs to be socialized it needs to learn that it's going to be to be here it can be with everybody the moment it senses one person likes it more or one person comes home and said hi to it you don't come home and go right to the cage it's going to get offended okay and then it's that person's out i've seen it in her house i have a friend who likes 30 because and she said that every single one of them needs to flow when she comes home yeah yeah i gotta go hello to all my birds or they're offended they're little beings in the house that are like i would love you like why don't you come to me right right oh yeah there's no chance what's this bird's name your hair straight up matches the wall right now i'm just trying to like if i put you in front of the wall just get in front of the wall for my own entertainment okay how's that am i blending am i am i just a giant face yeah you got to start with one because you have to have time to work with one especially if you were to get the right yeah i feel like the girl that came from a home with one woman and her daughter i feel like you have to be right for you but in my professional opinion of being of service to the birds in the world i feel like anyone with a kid or anyone could come and adopt this bird but this bird doesn't have the biggest chance in the world and i could help you a lot with this bird and help the bird was she dancing yeah she she's like the kind of bird that like almost anyone could come in and like bond right yeah which is which is it could be a good thing for you though you know are they all possessive all birds can get possessive it's all going to be how you socialize okay hi oh cut your my buddy oh don't be a brat step up step up yes principle she's like no you're a little too much it's you know a little too riser when i see you you're so cute though you know look at you what a cute little terror right everybody's looking over well see if you even know how to get her off okay if i do know how to get her off yeah i just go to the cage at this point because they don't want to bite my finger what do you think hi look she comes up to my cheek like yeah they're all so cute until you get them home and then they show you they're crazy good job guys merlin saw us leaving and came down again and now he's on heather's shoulder and you don't understand you guys probably do understand how big this is for a gray this bird will give you so much more than anything you could have ever imagined so what would happen if you put your hand out for him to come are you gonna talk yeah do you see like he's already comfortable he'll come to me so now i wonder if you would come back to yeah it's all it's all progress it's all step up on me step up good boy see good boy who's such a good boy merlin's a good boy in the camera oh you're so cute go back to your house oh my god kissy the wingy we hope to see you soon merlin i guess we should let you get back to your work but i appreciate everything you do for birds um do all cats get that big you have a bigger crap than that i'm just curious because i'm a new cat owner and i don't know oh guys i just got taught how to not get myself locked in the aviary i didn't think we'd fall for a bird today but i think there's two potential options so heather's gonna think about it and she's gonna get in touch with rose and rose gonna do her investigation thank you you have to think by yourself any suggestions i love them both i love it's so hard because they each have their own specialness and their own qualities and i know you love merlin and he is smart my only concern is do i have the fortitude to and i don't know to work i don't know i just feel like he's gonna be good in a few days he's gonna bite my finger off no like maybe no it's just like the text i got they got a cute little bird and that's what happened but i know he's because i did ask she's like this one the one on the left was more was more busy and loud yeah but they get louder too when they're bonded with somebody and merlin wouldn't he's a talker they don't they talk that's extremely entertaining yeah it's not like well that one mandate on your was loud yeah the thing is like merlin thrived right there and you know i just look at me i'm like crying for i just and hearing his story that's why she's saying you need to think by yourself because she knows i'll be an influence on you but but i'm telling you like i should be an influence on you because well you are i mean you are you have all these big animals and then you want this little bird but that bird i wanted a cuddler too and she cuddled you're my african great cuddles like you'll see you never know i don't like birds that are cuddlers i never get rid of them you think you do until you can never do anything else you can't clean the house you can't have your guitar you can't do anything because the bird has to be right here or it screams the house down and then when you're busy doing your stuff and you're writing and it's chewing this yeah but okay what are the downsides of an african great you're gonna i mean right they've got to have all birds have downsides right so what are their downsides well from what i see of merlin why like not like people your other bird wouldn't like people that little bird won't go to any he's not going to go to anyone he nearly bit me when i tried to get him off of you yeah but if he was just if she was just with you by herself more than likely she would be fine and step up and do what you asked be surprised they become evil that's why there are so many birds up for adoption that's why people don't buy them so you you're leaning more towards a little bird no i don't know i loved them both i love them both for very separate reasons i want to watch the video maybe did you take you talked to video right about you don't understand like what it is yet to be privileged enough to have an african great for an african great to step on you and say you know what i like you and when you understand that kind of privilege you'll truly understand birds you'll say to yourself because they are like the eagle of the bird it's not that they're that they're so special it's that he decided you're special and they don't decide that well he decided you're special yeah but you'll see that opens him up he came to you too he didn't just decide i'm special and as far as she's concerned he said he doesn't go into anybody so here we have a bird that in 20 minutes a bird that's been abandoned basically from an owner just like you with a daughter for 20 years finds his person so you're saying that it is a meant to be um scenario i honestly you could have gone to any place any bird store any parrot rescue and found a little bird like that little conure she is down to playing the bond that i just developed with that conure that conure will step on somebody else and do the same thing that african gray will i don't know sometimes they feel like the african i'm a little scared of the beak i'm a little scared honestly of him like ripping my finger no that gray's not gonna bite my finger i mean you're gonna get it with any bird and when the little ones hold on to you it's the worst the gray's gray and then my daughter hits the conure no relax and think about one bird thing with birds is like animal lovers immediately want all the birds but to be right for a bird you have to want one bird no i knew enough and i've watched enough videos okay for hours on end hours uh i know enough about birds and stuff i know i couldn't have that nam day that would drive me nuts i couldn't have the clock to that would drive me nuts the macaw he was someone's gotta come get that macaw somebody doesn't somebody needs to pick up ozzie okay guys so obviously heather has a lot of thinking to do and i hope she helped me help me marlene's audience help me please because i don't want to make any stupid you don't want to make stupid decisions but you also don't want to make any plus don't let her i did want a bird all okay but also gray's are and he was so sweet and great but he liked you initially and then you educated me so you really should watch her videos educated me on what to do and put my hand out there for him to step up on remember um but you think she should do ultimately it's gotta be her decision because you know you gotta like get a bird but you and don't hate me for whatever bird i choose nobody won't hate you because you rescued a bird if you decide to rescue a bird you may not right maybe it's not for you and she has 30 more coming 30 ozzie ozzie really needs a home he does and he's so cute and he wants so so bad he wants so bad to be loved and um you can tell he's just so willing to learn too let me know what you thought of this video let me know your favorite part let me know what you think heather should do i love you guys so much don't forget to subscribe follow me on instagram at marlene mcconan i'll of course keep you updated on the story i mean i think i know what she should do but um i guess you never know if you're not the person in this situation all right i love you guys bye