 Welcome to the 1878 FM podcast. I think it's episode 12. There you go. It is 12, I checked before. See, Dave's all over. Dave's checked the radio times. Dave's got it. It's in there. Do people still buy the Christmas Radio Times just because it's a tradition? Yeah, okay. Now I'm going to show you full disclosure. I buy the wish version of the Radio Times. The Radio Times, like £4.99, but you can get like a TV guide for like a quid. So that's the one where you get a thing. I think it's important because over the festive period, I like to look ahead to highlights, which are perhaps beyond where one would normally look to, as in like tomorrow or Saturday. And then you kind of go, ah look, but on the 27th, they're showing National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation again. You know, it's things like that. And this is what you get from the seasonal edition of the Radio Times, Peter. Very true, very true. No, no, I think we still get it now. I'm spoken of. It's one of the joys of Christmas, isn't it? Sitting there and circling the bits you want to watch. That's the best bit in it. Do you go for the circle? I've done the star, I think. I've gone with the star. I've like, you know, when you see things, I must record that. Actually, I'm a star at the side kind of thing. Yeah, star at the side. But do you remember the days when, do you remember in the early days of VCRs where you're putting like a code number to record a star? Yeah, wasn't it called Video Plus or something? Video Plus, yeah, it's come such a long way. I don't know, if you're Sky, I think like with Sky or whatever, we get loads of stuff weirdly recorded that you've got no, no intention. If you've got Peppa Pig on there, for example, our middle of Peppa Pig, it just starts recording it at all times of the day. Like I think that 95% of our hard drive was full of Peppa Pig. I just think she might have watched it at all. It's definitely worth 95% of my hard time. Yours was taken away, wasn't it, Ped? If it's like Instagram, send them over. I thought it was you back in a couple of weeks. He's holding that back for the first time. It's in the wash. Hey, listen, listen, listen. Before we go down a potentially difficult subject area, I would suggest that we need to address the, I was going to say the rabbit in the room. It's not the rabbit in the room, the elephant in the room, which is the fact that Ped looks different. It does look different. He looks different now. I know what you're thinking, viewers. Why does Ped look different? He does look different. He maybe looks a bit younger. That's because he has removed his facial hair. Is that before I couldn't, there was no bush when we first come on, does it? And, you know, now you have got no bush. Well, it's because I'm going away next week and I just thought it was getting a bit like Roy Keenish. It's getting scraggly, pubish. So I thought I'd just get it right down, get it down to the base level and then let it build back. What was your process then, Ped? What did you do, like you used clippers to get it down and then wet shave? No, no, it's not clean shave. Even it just looks like that because I'm ginger. Design is stubble. You've gone full George Michael. Yeah, it's because I'm ginger, see. Me and the other fella from FIFA, I know where he's coming from today. I feel like shaving. Oh, you haven't missed anything, see? Yeah, yeah. So Red Dead's have got to stick together, haven't they? So I thought I'd take it right down while there's nothing going on and then let it grow out again for when I go away next week. It's got to be delicious. You've thought about it. I like that strategic plan. You don't really do that. So I'm impressed. You have very much. Get on, what's happening, I'll do that. So I'm impressed. It's a lot of time to kill a guy off of the match, so you know what I mean? Having those extra hours in the day. I text, like I agree about the penalty, not being given and Ped reply. And it was only like 10, 20. I couldn't believe it. I could not believe it, honestly. But there you go. There you go. But I don't like it, but I can't wait for it to grow up. It's not going to take long, mate. It needs much longer. You'd either want it by the time it's gone. Yeah, but the time I'm ready to go. You've done that thing. Yeah, yeah. Time to perfectly time to go into it. So it's all good. Any way, boys, have we been? Have we been since last week? Yeah, all right. You know, fairly average. Still finding the World Cup strange and weird to get my head around it. I haven't seen a huge amount of it, I'll be honest with you, because I've been so busy working. But I have seen, I did watch the England game, obviously, and I watched half of the USA Wales game. And I've just multi-tasked by recording a podcast for netmoms, while also watching Argentina versus Saudi Arabia, which is what you have to do in the modern world. Of course you do. Can I just say it was good to watch the Argentina game because that was a proper crowd atmosphere that we've been waiting for, because it sounded like soccer aid up until this point. The stadium atmosphere is really weird that you expect Olymer's to come on at halftime. Robbie Williams is mate. Yeah. Oh, Johnny Wilkes. Well, that's all he is. He's just Robbie Williams' mate. He's a bit more, does he? No, he doesn't do anything anymore. It seems like a nice lad. I've done the Rocky Horror Picture Show on stage with Jonathan Wilkes at the Bristol Hipdream. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hang on, hang on. How did we not know this before? You've done the Rocky Horror Picture Show. I just did a walk-on bit with the radio show that I was doing down in Bristol, and we went on in, you know, the garb that they wear. And it was us three and Jonathan Wilkes on stage. All bull and negligee's and stuff like that, do you know what I mean? The bus you've been through in. That's definitely a lot of the bus. I mean, do you know if the Wilkes does like wearing so much? He just sold us Robbie. So how did you feel putting the basket and suspenders on, Mr Busch? It didn't look good. It wasn't a pretty sight. And of course Jonathan Wilkes was released by Everton as a youngster. As a kid. Yeah, he was, he was. I didn't know that. To be fair, there is a story. There is a story and I can't tell it of how he got an extra year at Everton, but I can't tell it. I just simply can't throw in that out. And that's not only if the viewers and listeners can't. Pead, Pead, what if we, what if we hear now promised anything? And we can just say it really quietly. And then as long as it doesn't get out. I get into a lot of trouble. Give us one word, one word is to do with the story. Football. Like a keyword? No. I can't even do that. There's nothing I can say. No, move on. There's nothing I can say. Honestly. Listen, let's talk. I'll tell you later. Pead, a new look, new discretion. Unlike Pead, very unlike Pead. That sounds like aftershave after that, don't it? Pead for men. New Pead. New Pead. The voice over. We'll come back to the welcome in a minute, but obviously there is no Premier League. Thankfully. Thank God. But Everton did win a trophy at the weekend. He did. Sydney Super Cup. No, there's no evidence. He beat Celtic 41 penalties. I did crazily get up at sheep of the clock to watch it. Was that the first trophy since 1995? No, we've won lots of trophies. No, we've won the floor of the club in the year. I was totally unaware of this. I'll be honest with you. I didn't realise we were doing this whole tour, Australian tour thing, which is my bad. What kind of team was he putting out then? What did the team look like? It was a big of it in goal, obviously, because Pickers at the World Cup. It was Paterson and Michael Encow, the full-backs. He had three centre-backs, which was Mina, Tarkovsky and Michael Keane. And then in midfield he had two, which was Decorey and Isaac Price, who was very good, actually. And then a front three of Anthony Gordon, Neil Mawpai and Damari Gray. Is he trying a new kind of formation? I hope not because he was terrible, though. So I hope not. And Celtic, I think, had four missions from their normal team. So we went 10,000 miles to play 10 men behind the ball. I said this to you yesterday. And we will keep this very brief. But the thing, everything did do. They decided to just play triangles on the edge of our box. And then it ends up. Because they pressed really well, Celtic, we ended up just hoofing it up to Mawpai who couldn't keep the ball anyway. So it was just like, we were just giving the ball away. When we did get it down and play, we went through them like a knife through butter. But we ended the game with no shots on targets, even in a friendly. We're crap, aren't we? Let's be honest. We haven't got any clue once we get towards the final thing. I think we just have to stop going. If we do this, if we do that. I think we just have to make a declaration that we're crap. I just get on with things. We've all said for weeks we've got to buy in January. It's as simple as that. Nothing will change. It's as simple as that. It's not as long as everyone has a good time. But everyone won. Do you know how I first found out about this tournament? This is honest truth. This is the other day. And I was after a number for Aaron Lennon. Or some kind of contact details for Aaron Lennon because we wanted to do a thing on the EFL podcast about the fact that he retired last week. And I thought, right, who might know? So I tried to call. No answer. Tried to call again. Then tried to text Darren Griffiths. Obviously, Everton's media and press guy. He came back to me saying that it's half past two in the morning and he just got up to have a peak. I'm in Australia. I'm in Australia. So do you want to stop mithing me about Aaron Lennon's number? Which, by the way, I don't have anyway. Thank you very much. But at that point, I obviously realised the importance of that. That's it. Have you got Aaron Lennon's number now? No, I haven't. I've had to switch my tack unfortunately. Unless Aaron's listening to this. Maybe we could do something with him. But at this moment in time, I've had to switch my tack to somebody else. Fair play. Fair play. Everton scored four penalty. But it was very Everton-like. No shot on target. Went to penalties. They missed their first two. Everton raced in through a three-nil lead. They scored their pen. And it came down to Stanley Mills was taking the pen to win it forever. And he missed it. And then Celtic scored their penalty. So from three-nil. All of a sudden it was three-two. And it's Anthony Gordon's steps up. Obviously he saw his penalty really well. So he didn't keep it the wrong way. And I'm asking if he misses and then all of a sudden it's three-all. Three-nil. Very Everton-like but he won it. They play again on tomorrow morning, isn't it? A time record. It is Wednesday morning at 8.45. I've never cared less what Anthony did. I'm just putting it out there for people who didn't. Was Calvin Lewin anywhere? I saw a razor blade advert during one of the games. He'd done a modelling shoot, I think. Or he put last two other days Friday off Saturday there was his own modelling shoot that he'd done himself. But he's not going to go, he's injured. Well that's okay then, isn't it? I mean at least if he's injured then it's okay. If he wasn't injured and he was spending his focus time doing that that would be a bad thing. And that would be a distraction. But at least he's injured. So we don't have to worry about it. We leave him there. We leave him there. That's enough, Everton. Forget about that. So back to the Whale Cup, which has obviously had a couple of days. We've just recorded this just after Anthony and they've been beaten by Saudi Arabia, which has been a shock so far. In the gap between Denmark and Tunisia, let me point out. Denmark and Tunisia, we're doing a live-watching on that. The big game. This big one. But I mean, Andy alluded to a day, there's something you said yesterday as well, is that because of that atmosphere, that one was very good. That was good, Anthony, but it's been a little bit. You see the games themselves, I thought Wales and America game, United States game was really good. I thought United States were, I thought David a better side, really. I agree. I think that the thing that we have to worry about the most. Oh, absolutely. And our mate, good old Tim Rhee, what a stupid challenge from their point of view on Gareth Bale. He's a rubbish player. But what was the need for that? Bale's got his back to goal. The ball's running across him. Going to the edge of the ball. Why are defenders doing that? I don't know. I want you to tell me. I'll be honest. I don't really care. I think we're talking fast. I'm far too much football. Thanks for more analysis. Let's forget that. I feel like since Peds got rid of his beard, his footballing powers have gone. I'll tell you what else has gone. He has literally shaved off his tolerance. He was always a fairly intolerant man before. But now, obviously a lot of his tolerance was kept in his facial hair. You're reminding me of Roy Keen this morning. Hard time this morning. This is it. There's no reason for it. No one said anything to Keen. Half time. Laura Woods who... I mean, I wouldn't say anything bad to Laura Woods. She's there. Ask them about the penalty. Just get the cover. It's not a pen. It's not a pen. Laura Woods has gone. I know what the directive is this. It's not a pen. And then Graham Sooner, who actually, in this occasion, made some sense, which is very rare, was saying, no, but the directives are. This is why it's a pen. I'll be honest. I think it's very... I don't think there's much point in talking about getting into the nitty gritty of this well cup because it just goes too quick. It moves too fast. By the time people listen to this, this is all ancient history. It's crap, it's always been crap. You won't be drawn on Tim. No, we won't be drawn on Tim. Well, I think you just gave him a pen. I think I just said he's crap. He's crap? I mean, have you enjoyed it so far, boys? Yeah, I mean, what little I've seen. I think it's been good. I think it's been right. I'm fascinated by the extra time added on to it. Well, it's 78 minutes now of extra time in the game. And there's been... I think that was the fifth game. There's been 78 minutes. Is this them cracking down? Is this what actual... If you were to properly accommodate for time wasting, if you properly do time wasting and hold the clock for it, that's just how bad time wasting is in games. I think by the time the next well cup comes around, I think we won't have 90 minutes anymore. You'll have a proper clock, campdown clock and all that bad time. Do you think we'll ever get to the stage where when the ball... Yeah, yeah. No, I think we'll have a clock. I think we'll have a proper clock like NFL. And that'll be something we'll play 90 minutes of football. Yeah, we'll play 90 minutes. And none of this... We won't have to worry. And I think that's what we've basically got. We're getting real time and... We said yesterday... It's just that mad that they don't tell you, though. Yeah, you don't get told. Like the first couple of games, you're like, where's all this time come from? Well, we were watching the England game yesterday and obviously there was 14 minutes of stoppage time at the end of the first half. The goalkeeper had obviously had a concussion. And we were saying, shouldn't in situations like that, shouldn't you be able to take your goalkeeper off for like 10 minutes or so? Want to assess him? Yeah. Assess him. So it's not a proper substitute, but you bring your other goalie on and you have at least 10 minutes with the goalkeeper with a stoppage. You can do it all. And then that would have saved 10 minutes on the pitch stoppage time. But also would have assessed the goalkeeper. Hang on. But that whole situation, though, Baz, was ridiculous. The risk of kind of going from the comedic to the serious. But it was a bit like, you know, the whole point is that medical teams are supposed to be there to make a judgement call on somebody's health. By the way, because that particular person is not in a fit state to determine whether they are or they're not able to continue with the game because of a serious head injury. What the hell were they doing? It seemed that the captain, the captain guy for Iran seemed to be kind of running the show a little bit there in terms of, no, no, you stay, you'll be fine and you can stay on and all that kind of stuff. I felt bad for the other goalie. Like, this was almost like they didn't want him to come on. Yeah. Well, there was that shot. It was evident. So that's chaos. The Iran man, isn't it? Is head in the sense? Look at it. The other one is safe to go. Oh my God, look who I've got. No, there's another one. There was actually one in the Argentina game. Wasn't it just towards the end? They're a really, really bad one. And the ref played on. Football's got this all wrong. Yeah. They've got it all wrong. Like they were saying here, like if it was like boxing, you wouldn't let the corner tell you know, the fellow was all right. You know, circling that back to evidently if you want something. We had that with Tarkovsky for the Bournemouth second goal. He's gone down with a head in it. It's not a talk of community. You're straying into talking about evidently. Yeah. Come on, stop that. You nearly did the B word there. This is a relaxing period. Let's move on. Let's move on. It's all right. I'm quite enjoying it. I'll be honest. I think, listen, it's I think the whole thing is all just started in a lot of just weird. Badness. I've seen actually this. I ate some on this morning and talking about like a proper, proper gen. That's not a football gen. It's saying like Katara properly like think it's saying like they shouldn't have got it now. He's like for years and years they were like this quiet little country that were bobbing along. Loads of money. No issues. Just doing what they wanted. And now suddenly the whole world's looking at them just like doing them basically. And they were like, why did we bother? We could have done all this without having a well cut where people start saying things about us. I just think it's all very strict. There's loads of weirdness. We talked about this yesterday. It's like the stuff with the rainbow flag. I see Malak Scott getting some stick yesterday though because she put the flag. That's FIFA though. That's what I'm saying. That's what I was going to say, Dave. It's like today Belgium have been told they've got to remove the word love from inside their shits. It's like when did these things become bad slogans? When did a heart sing one love or whatever become a bad slogan? And why would you be bothered? If you were Qatar, you'd just be like Russia four years ago, one of the worst countries on Earth. A country that had already invaded. Like an annex, crimeean. And for four weeks they were like, this is the best place on Earth. You can do what you want. You can have the time of your life. Don't worry about it. No, there won't be any trouble. There won't be any trouble. We'll make sure. Why are Qatar just going? Everything's fine. Don't worry about it. Do what you want, lads. The minute you go, then we'll all come back to normal like everything does, but it's weird the way the shining spotlights on themselves. It's very strange that. I'll tell you the other weird thing as well is them announcing yellow cards on the guy with the speaker. That's just not right, Eve, is it? Don't get involved with that. You don't need to announce a yellow card. We can see it. We've seen it like that, but don't tell us. We don't need to know. It's very artificial. What occurred to me yesterday at some point is that what are they going to do with these eight stadiums that they've built, which each hold about what, 80,000 or something? What else are they going to do with them? Well, apparently the one, the game, the game that we, the stadium in the game that we played in, I think, or the game, the opening game, I think they've taken the top tier off it and reducing the capacity. And the other one, there's one made with shipping containers, which is just getting dismantled after it. OK. So that's getting, and that stuff will be distributed on the beat of the elsewhere show. We think that apparently all the stadiums are within 45 minutes of each other or something like that, which is just... Could we not cut some of our costs for Bramley Mordoch by actually taking some of the seating and maybe some of the structural element? Like when you buy someone on Facebook Marketplace. We'll go over there with a van. Yeah, it's pre-owned, but sort of refurbished in good nick and everything. I want to use three times. It just seems a waste, doesn't it? It does seem a waste, but we've done this this week about the World Cup of legacies and places like South Africa that have huge grants that... They've got that much money. It doesn't matter. And that's what's scary about the whole thing, isn't it? That they've got that much money that none of this actually matters. Did you see... Where's going to get the next one, though? Because obviously we've had Russia, you know, Boo Hiss, Pantamine Villain, guitar, Boo Hiss, Pantamine Villain. Of North Korea, friend. North Korea should. North Korea should. Shouldn't it? America has got the next one. America, Canada and Mexico have got the next one. So it's the 2031, which will be... Good guys back, guys. Good guys back, guys. Copy. America, Canada and Mexico's got all... They've got the ugly, haven't they? Let's be honest. They've got the whole stuff. And it's up to you to the side. Maybe Clint Eastwood will do the open. It's up to the people to the side. Morgan Freeman. Don't the opening for this, but BBC didn't show it. So I don't know what's going on. Let's move away from that as well. So there you go. It's on the way. It's on the way. I'm enjoying it. And we'll see what's what. It's just not evident. So what is there not to enjoy? Just football without pressure, isn't it? Which was very, very enjoyable. I've had a couple of thoughts during this break from Everton, where maybe it's just time to knock it all on the edge. Do you want to go back? I don't know if I want to go back. I've got a little glimpse of freedom from it. My Saturdays are fine. I don't have to go for a walk around the block because I've got so angry or been swearing at the tally and told off by Katie. Maybe we'll just leave it. Maybe. Like the Avatar franchise, do you know what I mean? The first one was fine. We don't need to go back for another three films. Sleaveaway or, like, you know, Lethal Weapon. The first two were fine. We've got them. They're safe. We've got them. But we don't need the other ones. I mean, the second one in particular is one of the greatest filming moments of all time. Diplomatic community. Diplomatic community. I'll give you a rigs. Paul Patty Kensie ended up dead. Ended up, Patty. Didn't see that coming. No, you didn't. And the little dog who came through the hole. Yes. Long as the dog survived. Yes, the dog's all right. You know. By the way, for those that haven't seen that, that sounded a little bit weird coming straight off the back of the pack of the Kenzie chat. What we meant is that in the beach house, there is a secret way of getting in and out through the floor which the dog utilised when the helicopters come over with the bad guys from South Africa. Classic dog. Absolutely. One of the only films that had the bad guys as South Africans. Yeah. You know, in that period, it was normally, you know, bad guys from South America or bad guys from maybe the Middle East when they went there. Fair play to them. Fair play to them. Fair play to them. Before we go with that. No, let's move on. I mean, last week, I was thinking about the things that were unexplained. You know, Dave's three. One of them 3D prints. Oh, the big three. The Holy Trilogy. And one that I've always thought. It kind of comes off the back of a 3D printer. But going back a number of years when... Anything can come off the back of a 3D printer. It can now. It can. And I understand how 3D printers kind of are able to recreate... If they've got the schematics of something, they're able to recreate it. I kind of understand it in a way. But one thing I've never been able to understand. Is fax machines. Is fax machines. So I knew what you were going to say. You knew it because we've said, and I wanted to add something. Now I could draw a very simplistic picture of the four of us on the screen and put it in a fax machine and send it to Dave and Andy. And they would get my drawing that has gone electronically and being reproduced at the other end. And these have been around for years. And I still just think, how can you take my drawing and put it in Dave and Andy's fax? Was it not a digital code? Was it not? Or actually no, it was pre-digital, wasn't it, fax machine? I'm not sure. I mean anything like that. All other technologies got kind of smaller, quicker, faster, better. Apart from printers. Do you know what I mean? Printers dragging their heels. The printer whisperer, if you work in an office, is that one bloke or woman who comes out with a chamois leather and talks to it. Those how to work it. I mean it's weird. I blame the size of paper. No, but printers you think that, like Andy said, things have got quicker. You know, phones are basically a tele and a computer in that. Printers are just like lad, with this big and with this slow. What do you want them to do? I want them to be. I know but they're always breaking down. Like jamming left, right and centre. I think printers are a disgrace and have not got better over the years. You know what, I agree. The amount I've taken through the tip to like the electronic because you know, you get things. How much print do you people do? No, but in the pattern less now, isn't it? But when you print out your Instagram pages, just print everything. Books of Instagram pages. I have a question. The rubbish and you've got it. The ink. That ink is not economical, is it? No. The ink is like lad, if you're printing those two pages out, you're using me and I'm now £48 a cartridge. My dad's got a direct debit subscription, monthly subscription to ink. My sister's got one of those and then you just pay a certain amount every month and they always make sure that you're tupped up. I have a question for you. What's your favourite size? Of paper. You can't get away from A4. It's just the classic, isn't it? It is the classic, isn't it? I think it's what we're so used to. I hate the fact that it gets, the number of the A gets smaller but the paper gets bigger and I think it's the wrong way around. Absolutely. There's a lot wrong with the print. If you're in the printing industry and you listen to this podcast, you need to sort your house in order because it's a shambles. It is a shambles. I think that's the right word for it. It's shambolig. The printing industry is shambolig. Absolutely shambolig. It's a bit of a cartel though, isn't it? See this is the problem, maybe what it is. Cartel of cartel. They're making it so hard because it's the printer home and we have to go to those people. Remember when there was a garat five pence of coffee, the garages? Use a bone. My mind with this knowledge. The garages are go print. Can't we 3D print the paper with stuff already written on it? That would be better. Can we 3D print the printer? That works. I don't know where to go with this conversation. It's actually terrifying me. It is, yeah. Anything else that you... You think we should be talking about why we don't understand, get it? Anything like that though, how did in the first place that they do the old, you know, on the ships do the old Moscow? I didn't ever know that. Some fellow actually. Hang on, listen, listen, listen. I've got the answer on the fax machine, right? Here we go. A fax machine scans and encodes the content of the... You're making notes, Bush. A fax machine scans and encodes the content of the document first before transmitting it to the receiving machine. The receiving machine will then decode the data sent. The telecopier, which is another word for a fax machine, then prints information on paper marking the completion of the faxing process. OK, that's brilliant. That's the technical side of it. It's absolutely superb, but it still doesn't make me think if I just draw the stupid picture. Why does it matter though? No, I've just never... I've just always been like... It's a thing that we don't need to know about. OK. It's just magic. It's good to be curious though, isn't it? In terms of retro tech that I'd love to see make a comeback and I'm very envious of doctors or fire people. What about a pager? I'd love to have a pager. I used to have a pager. I used to have a pager. I used to have a pager. I used to have a pager. I used to have a pager. When I first started working at Radio 1, I was in a technical capacity, which meant that I was important, which meant that if there was a studio issue then I might get called in. It was before the days that I had a mobile phone so they gave me a pager and I had a pager which I wore, it had like a clip and I put it on my belt. Absolutely, and if it buzzed then I had to then ask somebody who may have been technologically advanced and had a mobile phone if I could borrow their phone or if not then I would use the one behind the bar in the pub. I love that. That I mean, that is quite easy to pay. On call, on call, on call. On call, yeah. I was a great song by Sash as well, wasn't it? On call. Before we went, we pressed record. Andy Bust just began. Began by that. To not only tell us that occasionally he likes to put suspenders in the basket and appear on stage in the rock and roll show. In Bristol. With members of Socrates. Different times. Different times. Different times. He also began to tell us a story about Jackie Chan which we paused. We pressed pause. Said Andy, keep that. Because now this is the area which we want to explain. So Andy, it's over to you with your Jackie Chan story. Well, we were talking about people being divas and having like riders or a lot of requirements before coming in. Because you are the 1878FM podcast diva. That was where this comes from. That's what it is. I'm the Mariah Carey of this podcast. I believe we established before we pressed record. I was interviewing Jackie Chan for a movie thing that he was doing and the day before we were due to do the interview just me on my own his security detail came in who was like a guy in a suit who wanted to check all of the exits wanted to inspect each and every single toilet. And every single floor of one golden square where the radio station is based before Jackie would then come in the next day and go and do the interview. So I don't know if he's worried about some kind of being bumped off or something like that but he's very security conscious. It's unusual though for somebody of all the people, Jackie Chan, I mean if there was anybody who was going to get himself out of a difficult building situation, if somebody attacked him or indeed if there was some kind of hazard he would get out of there I think before most people. But that's the point isn't it? He needs to know where all those exits are so he can do all that kind of stuff so he can flip himself onto the roof. Because I've seen him and I don't know all his brokers like doing films his own stunts on his own, he's climbed down buildings. Nicest man in the world as well, really lovely guy. My only question I've got before we go back to the interview Andy is it's all very well checking everywhere the day before. If I'm going to do some to Jackie Chan it'd be on the day surely. Well that guy's obviously had a look at you know mapped it all in his head and he's obviously gone back to Jackie and then just kind of gone for it with him in the canteen and then right pick it up tomorrow at nine we'll do the interview. So was he a nice fella? Lovely, lovely, lovely man. What were you interviewing him for? I can't remember what the movie was then. Literally can't remember. A lot of the times though, a lot of the times when you have someone that's supposed to be a bit of a nightmare it's the people around them that are not the person themselves. Always. I would say always. I'm going to say he was there for around the world 90 days. I'm just throwing that out there. No, no. I'm just throwing it out there. You're putting years on Bush there. I have a weird relationship with the movie thing because I did like some of the interviews for one of the Marvel films and again I can't remember which one it was and they used my quote on the poster which was incorrect, had incorrect canon on it and someone they set up a Facebook page slagging off how stupid I was because it was the wrong you know like Marvel's got a different world and all that kind of thing. Apparently my quote was so incorrect that it caused quite a lot of heat in the world of fans. But why would he put it on the poster then? To stare for it, isn't it? Hang on, doesn't this just go back to what we were saying about the printing industry. Absolutely shambles. And the poster's decided to print something else. Shambler. Can I ask a question that may show my ignorance but what does the phrase incorrect canon mean? I said it was the something of the Marvel universe or something like that. I can't remember the exact quote was now. You know like canon is factually correct within a particular universe. I'm with you. It's basically like it's basically like so if you've got like Marvel you've got Marvel films haven't you? You've got all the ones that are now and then if you get like the X-Men ones That's a different canon. That was the problem I think. At first I thought we were so wrong. Did I? Yeah, incorrect canon. I thought we was like printer ink and stuff. I was thinking if we got about a 30 million that Andy Bush had shot on a 50 million. It should be a 68 or something. It's a canon league. I don't know canon league trophy. It could have been anything. Dave I think you, didn't you say there was a you know we talked about at the time in the World Cup before an extra to the main event. Didn't you say there was you had a Jackie Chan story as well? Yeah, mine's possibly I'll warn you, mine's possibly not as good as Bush's story. Bush is wasn't great, I'll be honest. Wasn't great. I thought there was more to Bush's. We're here now. Well, you know, you be the judge. Go on then. Many years ago and I was in Los Angeles, California. Clang. It's already better than my story. A way over there with work for a well-known national BBC pop music radio station. It was a little bit of downtime. So my friend Dominic and I decided that we would go out and hire a car and just travel around Beverly Hills and stuff as you do. And when you travel around there are people in the really, really posh areas selling like a guide to where all the famous people live, right? Because it's literally littered with stars all around this place. So we thought we'd buy this guide book and that would be a good way to use ourselves for the day. So you go in there and you stick in your sat-nav and, you know, you take yourself off to... So we went to David Hasselhoff's house, right? I should do. Clang. And we spoke to his... I don't know, made or something like that through the intercom. And then we also went to Piers Brosnan's house and she said that Piers wasn't in at the moment but at least we knew that we had the right place. That was in Malibu. And we also went to Jackie Chan's house, right? But unfortunately nobody answered at all at Jackie Chan's house. But we did actually stand outside his gates and he has a small fountain. There you go. Classic. That reminds me of Rooney and Alan Stubbs in shell suits looking around North London. Just to say, yeah, but exactly the same. I would say. Or those two guys, did you see the two guys out in Qatar who ended up at the Shades Palace? No, amazing. With the lion. Amazing. The best thing about that was everyone was going, stop blacking your novel. And then the next week you just put the video of them in the Cheeks Palace with the Libos. But going back to what Dave was saying, I also once frequented L.A. Clang. And I was just, you know, walking along. And suddenly Charlie Thuron was on my left. And Emma Stone was on my right. At the same time, like literally, it was just mad. And suddenly there was an influx of all these famous people around me. It was like the done thing like this doesn't like, this isn't a normal thing. You know, I was like, well, it was like Andy Garcy, Diane Lane. Why would he do it? Just bowling? We were outside. We just saw them in mega balls. Did we have to pick a mix? All right, all right then. Not to be outdone then. We were in Southwold a couple of weekends ago and Rick Wakeman was in there having a full English. Who was he? How did he have his eggs? I think he had fried eggs. On the place you've just said, no one knows, I have no idea where that is. And who's the person? He plays keyboard for about eight hours in doing weird songs. He's like a wizard. You recognise him? Progrock from 17. He does a lot of talking head stuff. I'll be honest, Andy, I'm not impressed. Go on back there. It's not exactly Charlie Thuron. We were outside one of the theatres. That does like the nightly shows in America. And they were doing a feature on the NBA and Charlie Thuron was playing basketball. And then over the road, Diane Lane, there was a special knife at Diane Lane and it's where they do the Oscars. But literally just about ten feet away. There's Emma Stone, Andy Garcia and Diane Lane because she was in The Godfather and loads and loads of actors. Is she very tall, Charlie Thuron? She was, yeah, I think. I mean that would be good for the basketball though, wouldn't it? I'm the host, he was the host. Jimmy Kimmel was there as well. It was just surreal. Just being stood there. Interesting. That just struck me on the other thing. Did you see James Corden's latest? No. No, no, no. Last week you don't have to get involved telling Ricky Gervais's joke. Oh yeah, yeah. I saw that. I wasn't a smart move. You'd at least change it up, wouldn't you? He hasn't wrote it though, has he? He hasn't wrote the joke. No, but he hasn't wrote the joke. Quite clearly, the person didn't write the joke. They've stitched them up. The writers have definitely thrown him on the bus. They've done it before as well. They've done it before. They've done it twice. So that tells you how liked he is. I feel like you, have you got a story of seeing someone famous? You're a little bit left out here. I've still got Rick Wakeman and the boys there. I've seen people around it if I'm really like it. I've got Rick Wakeman. I'll be honest, man, I'm a football based. I tend to not be impressed with famous people. The most showbiz person you've seen in the flesh? Showbiz? The world of film or the big screen. I've got nothing. I think we were standing at a pub once in London and the fella from Masterchef was standing next to us. Which one? I don't think he stood on my foot. Greg Wallace stood on my foot at the bar. I'm just putting it out there. It's one of these things where we'll finish this and I'll go, oh my god, I saw a bloody, bloody, but I have to. Steven Spielberg in the KL Services. I don't want to sound like a major client but Terry Nass did. Oh, there you go. Have you moved in these circles, though? No, I don't. This is where EFL podcast you've seen. Will Carling in London, in Sainsbury's, was that when he was... Was that during the Dianne years? Yes. Glad you said that I pulled back a little bit. Hang on. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. That's a well-known fact, isn't it? They were friends. Wasn't he special friends? Wasn't he slottener, though? He was slottener. It was right on the corner from the Chelsea Harbour Club where they both frequented regularly. Chelsea is a harbour? It's lovely, actually. In fact, I've seen Big Phil Scolari when he was Chelsea manager in Chelsea Harbour. Now we're talking best. Now they're coming. I've got football ones. I spent some time with Caca, who is one of the greatest footballers ever. Ym... So there you go. Mickey Mouse in Disney. Who is more famous than Mickey Mouse? Exactly. Oh, oh! Well, we're going to go down that road. I met Ronald McDonald once at a café in Derby. Rick Fleir. Where did you meet Rick Fleir? I've got a pitcher, me and him. I need shoes. I'll pass as singing like a player. It just opened up. It was all opened up. It was in Cocoon as well wasn't it you was there you go and 3 men and a baby and if you just Is partly filmed in England of course. What about would Steve um you'd be able to call Steve to get us Would you do it would you do an endorsement of this podcast for us or do you事 of Voice Note sorry why not when when did you get that number I mean it's a long time ago I mean may he may have even I mean I mean listen I can't do that. Hang on. I'm going to do it hang on. Is that not connecting? I wonder. Hang on. I think I've done it wrong. Oh here we go here we go. Here we go. Is this going to work? This is interesting. If he's in LA it's like middle of the night. Dave's Lincoln. He doesn't care. Dave doesn't care. Oh right I'll listen. I'll work on this for next week. So I just need to know we've like under what circumstances did you get Steve Gutenberg's number? Well he was he came in on the radio show that I was working on at the time. I told him that I was a huge fan of his body of work. Police Academy in three minutes. I don't really know why he gave me his number unless we were maybe planning to meet up in Los Angeles or something like that which we obviously didn't do. But there you go. The plot thickens there Dave. I think Dave's been a bit cagey but that's fine. I don't mind. No honestly I haven't got anything more to say on that on my turn. Let's leave it. Andy Bush and I'll just say you have checked out the Wayne Rooney interview. Fantastic. He's a lovely guy. Really lovely. I like him. I've always liked the way he talks. Wayne. I wouldn't rule him out. Him being a manager of Everton Football Club at some point in the future I think it'd be great to have a legend at the helm. One of our legends at the helm would be great. It's a great interview. He's a good sorghe. Dave I'm guessing you haven't watched it yet so nice one. No not yet because I was saying it for the weekend. I'm only joking. I'm obviously joking. We're saving it you know the certain things that you don't want to rush and I want to save it and I want to watch it properly. I'm just wringing Steve. Can we just commend Rooney's look? I'm loving Rooney's look at the moment. He's got a kind of I don't quite he looks like someone from like a steam punk film or something with like big shoulders and square jaw and that beard and that. It's like a really intimidating school bus driver and I'm loving every minute of it. He is intimidating. He looks like he's getting ready to be in a Guy Ritchie film. That was going to say. If he'd come in with a three flat cap on I wouldn't I wouldn't have thought any different. You know them shoulders are huge by the way. He's in India at the moment for the World Cup and the irony is he said he wasn't going to India because no one would see it and yeah there's a clip that's gone viral of himself. There you go. Can't you say as well Ronaldo was such a prick about Rooney, wasn't he? Just about everything in general. Yeah he hates him. Shut up. He's so disrespectful. Do you know what I mean? I didn't get lost. And Rooney was particularly was really good at you know people asked him about it and he was you know he didn't like jump in on Ronaldo. He just kept his dignity. I did like that we're both the same age and we both sit on the bench. I thought that was that was a great line from Rooney. You need to just without being too disrespectful too. Wayne needs to put the fact of 50 on though he's sitting on the bench in the sun. That's the difference isn't it? That's where the cap is. Oh yeah I'm just saying but you've got to be careful. He hasn't got the same skin as what Ronaldo has but he's fine. He's fine but Ronaldo isn't. Portugal um croc stuff slightly different. Different places aren't they? Different places. It's a different time to express yourself. Boys aren't going to have to go and do apology. I'll tell you why because there's a Yorogwai Denmark. Watch along live that we are doing now. Yorogwai definitely not playing Denmark. No we haven't the playing. Tunisia. Tunisia. Well what? I'm going to have to go and isn't it? What? Isn't it Denmark Tunisia? Cool Steve. Denmark Tunisia so. Right. I'm going to go and thank you very much boys. Take care. See you later boys. Bye. What a mild episode.