 Mehnwaal, Nigerian singer Charles Chikwe Meka Oputa, popularly known as Charlie Boy, has lambasted the Kaduna State Govna Nasi Urufai over his recent tweet, supposedly mocking the supporters of Labour Party's presidential candidate, Pita Obi. The Kaduna State Govna had in a tweet made fun of the proposed two million march rally in Kaduna by his supporters. Erufai's tweet has generated backlashes from tweets and other social media users who have lambasted the Govna over his prediction and statements. We are now being joined via Zoom by two public affairs analysts, Barrister Justice Uhuebu, I hope I got the pronunciation of that name, Barrister Justice Uhuebu and Adeyemi Saka. We are to discuss the banter between political parties, political candidates for various political positions. I welcome you gentlemen into the studio tonight. Okay, good. So let me start with Barrister Justice Uhuebu, if you can hear me clearly. There's been banter of words between political candidates already generating heat in the nation and we already know that the insecurity in the nation is also generating a lot of heat in the nation. There's so much campaign of calamity. One would think that at this time and the period that the nation is going through that political candidates would be skoshes with the use of their words. Well, you said it or you've laid the background for it. Well, this is a campaign season and I want to tell everybody that every issue, every matter comes. We can't do it, can't do that. Some say they are not important and we say others are important. One important thing, one rule of engagement that must be abide by all political actors in Asia, supporters, excapacities or the candidates themselves is to trust what you're supposed to do to guide against making a flammatory or insightful statement that could suit the nation over. Because as we're speaking like you rightly acknowledged and said we are the precipice and then you need to push or shove you need to put it down to the other side. I haven't said that but every issue is a campaign issue. We make this a political party, it's a campaign issue it's a topic for the opponents or other parties to come up with and accuse them of if they can put their party or their house in order are you sure you're going to put the country in order? So every issue matters and you cannot. But we can have a handbook to tell Nigerians or to tell politicians or to tell political actors or candidates that these are no-go area these are the do's and don'ts. We all have topics that we consider passionate to us. To some people it's the composition of tickets, to some people it's the educational background, to some people it's the status of health of candidates. To some people it's my every balancing of a rotational presidency. Those are the foundational things we discussed before we now go to the second stage. My own opinion is security, economy, health, infrastructure, dissolvency or the looming bankruptcy of the country. Those are things we know, those are issues that will take form. We cannot as a nation, we cannot as an electorate or media practitioners or analysts or even people social and remixing society decide for Nigerians what they should consider topics or topical issues to discuss. Okay let me go back to Barista Justice. Barista can you hear me now? Barista Justice can you hear me now? Okay we continue with you. Can you hear me? I can hear you clearly Barista. So we're talking about the campaign of Kalomni going on between political politicians, they are supporters and you know already generating a lot of heat and one would think like I said to Mr. Saka one would think that at this point where the nation is as a consent in security matters that politicians would be much more cautious with their words instead of heating up the policy. What's your take on this? Well I think it's a normal thing, this is politics and one way or the other the campaign somehow has started in as much as the campaign will start officially I think from next month but somehow it has started because candidates has already started visitations from state to state for one name or the other given to it. So you know when you want to rest in power power is not given, power is taken and that is exactly what you're seeing. So I'm not surprised, it's a normal thing all over the world, it's not a peculiar to Nigeria or whatever but like as you rightly said we are facing a very huge problem of insecurity at this point in time. So one should be very very careful the way you conduct yourself, the way you go about your supporters and all the rest. But I'll tell you for the truth that this issue of insecurity is meant to be a major front line not a campaignering exercise that we're going to see. It's not like what happened in 2015 when this administration came into being. One of the major things they talked about is you know crapping down on insecurity which at the end of the day we never saw it happen rather the state we are today it has multiplied more than 100 times. So that is exactly what we're going to see because in fact that is the only thing Nigerians are talking about now insecurity. Unfortunately nobody is talking about every other aspects of problem facing Nigeria. Now as we go everybody has to be very very careful as we go into the elections of course electorate will be expecting that what politicians should be talking about now should be the agenda for the nation. Nigerians want to see that there is another government in place that would be able to deliver the dividends of democracy. But what we get to hear is the campaign of Calomny the social media is already heated up by supporters of all of these candidates. So what then should voters be looking forward to? I think we are all Nigerians and what is happening in Nigeria so far one doesn't need to ask what will the voters be looking for because ordinarily me as a Nigerian you over there and whatever we all know the problem we are facing today in Nigeria today. Then if you want me to mention them just very few we are facing a problem of high level of insecurity today we are facing a problem of economic total in fact the economy is dead we are facing another problem which problem of hunger in the society Nigeria has never been this bad before we are facing a problem of unemployment we are facing a problem of you know total collapse of the educational system we are facing a problem of I mean I mean in fact I don't think I don't think of the truth that there is any sector that is working in Nigeria as it is today so Nigeria is putting a lot Nigerians are putting a lot Mr. Saka, can you comment on that? Thank you Mr. Uwebu Mr. Saka, can you comment on that? Voters are looking forward to better days in the nation with all of these banters coming in what then is the voter taking out to say this would be the particular candidates I want to go and stay for hours to vote for well you say I want to be very careful how to how to want to sound you know better informed better grip of our emotions when it comes to national issues and what to have we like I said earlier every issue is a fund runner issue I will tell you we can talk about insecurity that is we can talk about economics collapse that is true we can talk about monumental what if I can create a one iconic corruption in this administration that I don't think any government since 1960 can draw for whatever draw the record of the constitution in the constant corruption that is it but we look at some other things we're talking about insecurity we're talking about division and non of which distros along religious and ethnic lines and here we have we want to talk about we like it and we have to keep talking about the muslim muslim ticket but that we like it and we have to talk about the status of health of the candidates or aspects now no candidates but that we like it and we have to talk about the integrity of the candidates when it comes about the figures the banding around data they're putting out then we need to question it we need to question their foundation we need to question their integrity or everything matters and when we deal with it we can ask that question and interrogating them or what I call the secondary issues confronting us as a nation insecurity since the one of this I guess I ask myself I go through the papers on a gumi basis and I see the tons of bad news and reportage I twist on daily and I'm asking myself what is the motivation for these people going into this office I for a person would definitely abandon ship and run out of this country but that would like it to me the presidency as we speak right now I'm not talking about the presidency as an administration but the presidency as an office is in a mess Nigeria is facing back ups I can't imagine anybody coming in and telling us it has the magic one to turn around the photos of this country in four six months or a year Saudi Arabia as a nation dem declared $88 billion profit mid-year profit because of the Hungary-Monsha Ukraine war we are here trying about bankruptcy we are here talking about 6.7 trillion Naira for payment of bankruptcy is something that is that is ultimately corrupt so let's hear from let's let's hear thank you so much so your final words barista your final words on this I was wondering because you are also a politician as it is so you know the rule of the game right yeah yes but unfortunately I have not seen a level plane ground so far because some of us we have cut short or cut out of the whole thing as what I'm concerned if you remember in March this year I think first March this year the National Assembly did pass the bill for independent candidates but to up to today never saw the light of the day that is to tell you the level of corruption in this country that is to tell you the political at the political world loves what they are doing because the political parties as far as I'm concerned have no internal democracy in the political party so are you exploiting democracy we democracy in Nigeria what you practice in Nigeria is quasi democracy as far as I'm concerned until we start implementing that and that was why most of all we are cut short because today we are talking about monetizing the whole system all of them are the same because they were there all sharing money here and there how many young Nigerians today can boast of one million to five million naira you know the huge amount of money they used to buy forms and Nigerians are clapping we are clapping for them and they are coming to campaign to us and then let me realistic and tell ourselves the truth we are not yet waiting for the positive change we deserve and people are following them around all this money they spend all this money they are spending how are they going to get it is it not from the kufas of this country that they are going to get it until we make policies in Nigeria to be less attractive and remove money policies from it we are doing and we are not doing ourselves the truth thank you Barista uhu ebu and thank you also Mr. Saka Adeyebi thank you gentlemen for being part of news now tonight hello hope you enjoyed the news please do subscribe to our youtube channel and don't forget to hit the notification button so you get notified about fresh news updates