 Welcome to Toffy TV, this is the Tuesday topic here on Patreon. Let's discuss Sandro Ramirez. The man we can't shift permanently. Looks like he's going on loan. Yep, again. To Raiol Vachadeo. That's how they say it. Even though it's Raiol Valadil. That's how they say it. You were going Valacarno. Never. Is this the waste deal in Evans history? This play is the waste deal. Is it waste and van der Maide? I don't know. That is the question. That is the question. It's not great. For what we pay, we pay 5.2 million for them. Which is not. Which is not really. Obviously you're on big wages. And that complicates everything then. For what we've had out of them. I'm full of games. 10, 15 games, whatever. The rest of the time he's been on loan. We had a little dough last pre-season. You thought new manager, maybe the manager will find a way to use them. It wasn't too big. When I was to show to your dad, didn't score a goal. He hasn't ended. They didn't want him. You're thinking he's going to turn back up a Finch fan. But obviously Marcel Brand has been trying to get some of these players out the door. And he's not had to board the plane and come back to Finch fan. This time. Haven't been able to do a deal earlier. So when you look at it like that, it will go down as one of our waste deals. Financially wise in terms of wages. Cos he's done nothing for us. He has literally done nothing. He was brought in as a player full of hope. He was a young star. He'd done well at Malaga. Ex-bars alone. We looked at him and thought he looks like he works hard. He looks like he could play off a front man or play wide. I don't know whether the league is too quick for him. Or whether. I think the difficult thing to wonder about him is with that one season at Malaga, was that an anomaly? Did he just have everything his own way that year? Or is he just a player now who's been stripped of all his confidence because he came here for a big move, for him moving countries and everything, on big money. And it hasn't worked as his confidence. If he went to Seville and played in the Champions League, he would have been united in the Champions League. He would have done all right. He would have gone to the quarters that year. It's just not happened for him. No. It's a difficult one, isn't it? I think personally, I think this is where... I don't want to be sitting here, continuing to bang the drum for Marcel Brands. I think this is the difference about knowing what your job is. Knowing how to do your job against someone who doesn't. I think when we went to buy him, you've seen the pictures of Cumin and Walsh rocking up to watching him playing for Malaga. So straight away, it's not like any secret. We identified him and we wanted to get this player who's playing in the Spanish under 21s and he's playing in the Euros for that. And there was a lot of noise and a lot of hype about him. He scored a lot of goals for Malaga and we were thinking with the car who went out the door and stuff we needed to get a replacement in. So there was this. And it was also a summary of everyone we went for we got. So it was this idea of like, well, we're not missing out on this fella. We're just going to keep that going. We're going to do what we want. It was key to me that they didn't actually know what they were doing in terms of going after a player because there was a lot of noise at the time that Real Madrid were going to come in for them and Athletic Madrid and... Well, Athletic Oldman did want them. No, but I think the point being this is that that's the point is that other teams wanted them maybe and other teams where there was a lot of smoke getting blown around to help. And I think we got, and not saying we got nervous. We just flexed our muscles and went out and give them what an agent probably said they are. And the agent might have just been like, We'll just... And it's like unbelievably fine that Evan have been willing to give it. And yeah, and that's the difference, I think. I think with the brands in charge, brands would know exactly what other clubs were offering. Or even if they didn't know what they were offering, wouldn't be prepared to pay more than he thought someone was worth. And I think that's the difference where at that time, we'd just got Micheri just coming in and it hadn't been in long and it was the case of all, just spending the money. Doesn't matter, just spending the money. Just spending the money.