 when you're looking at ramping up Kevin's minutes is it a just matter of these are the minutes we have set out are you looking at score like what what is that calculation there because when you look at oh you're up by 40 that'd be a natural time to take Kevin out what what's the thought. Yeah it's it's a tricky balance because he needs to play a certain amount of minutes for his benefit at the same time you know in the games that out of hand you know you're caught like do we want to risk him being out there at this point in the game so in an ideal world he played closer to 30 minutes or you know closer to tonight but at the same time he's out there at the end of the game when meaningless minutes you want to be careful as well so we're trying to find that balance and at least he had a you know a good game and got some minutes in his legs. you